julian assange. is it something different than what we want to do with edward snowden? kennedy: i see a clear difference between edward snowden and julianssange. i think julian assange is more of a destructive mental patient and i think there is something heroic and important about what edward snowden did. kennedy: if he's a nutter he would lie through his teeth. he wouldn't care. >> the other thing about snowden and assange. they will never bring these guys to justice. assange will hide out. snowden is where he is. they are playing games with the u.s. government. kennedy: edward snowden, there were very valuable things about what he did. everyone is a russian spy. if you don't have an he can explanation for things, it's the ibs of politics. thank you so much. bring in the floral happy spring bouquet for everyone. coming up, tensions mount between the u.s. and north korea. are we nearing a nuclear war or are there other options we should be looking into. rob o'neill here to talk it ovov when i first started working with capital one, my dad called them up and asked for "the jennifer garner card" which is such a dad thing to do. after he

one person who was very pleased that he did not win and that is julian assange, the founder of wikileaks. he had said he would give julian assange 30 days to get out of the ecuadorian embassy in london where he has been taking refuge for several years. julian assange sent a sassy tweet to rub the defeat in his face. several papers are focusing on the participation rate. >> voter abstention is going to be the big winner of the election. it may be the lowest in the history of the republic and it could throw off the election results. the right-wing paper says much the same thing on its front page today. while nothing is decided yet. not only is voter turnout expected to be a record low of 40 percent of french people remain undecided on who to vote for. >> the street paper is reporting that single people in france have gotten rather stingy and miserly when it comes to dating. it is really making fun of single people for being penny pinchers. it's equivalent to pulling out all of the stops. that means you are pulling out just a few of the stops or maybe none of them. french seduction tactics is to invite a date over for dinne

you can weigh in this discussion right now as we talked to julian assange in the ecuadorian embassy? >> first, i've a brief queststin for julianange. said you didyou not get the leaks directly from a state. you said you know you did not get the leaks directly from a state. do you knonow that russia did nt give you thehe leaks throughnn intermediary? >> i'm not goining to be playing 20 queuestions on our r sources. 'm sure you understand allan, we're not going to be in scriribing circles aroround whor urces a are, how we communicate wiwith t them, any properties tt mighbe useto arrest them or criticize them in some future process. >> so it is understand as comey said, russia gave you the leaks through an intermediary. >> i'm not going to comment. >> my view of this is that during the campaign, wikileaks often suggested that trump would clinton.angerous than >> no, we didn't. >> i think you did. >> no, we didn't. >> i think that concept is wildly, gruesomely mistaken.n. there was the argument -- >> that is fine free to say that, bubut you shouould undersd that, no, w we didn''t. i was asked that questioio direct on demoacy nonow

but president trump said the justice department wants to charge julian assange and wikileaks, it's okay with him. julian founded wikileaks back in 2006. more posts inpseudod but in april 2010 wikileaks got notice for posting classified military video. that -- and in 2013 manning is found guilty of violating the espionage act. she was sentenced to 35 years in prison. president obama would later commute that sentence. last year wikileaks posted 20,000 staffers. followed by thousands of e- mails from john pedesta. just last month they pubbished what are thousands of internal cia documents that discuss covert hacking and spy software that targets cell phones, tvs and cars. elsewhere a massachusetts judge ordered evidence be preserved in the prison suicide of aaron hernandez. he was found hanging in a cell early wednesday. he was serving a life sentence for murder. the judge ruled in favor of a motion filed by hernandez's fiance that ordered prison officials not to destroy video and audio recordings, medical records, enough potential evidence. state is investigating the suicide. the family plans its own inve

julian assange does that suggest the u.s. might go after others and do you see a direct connection between julian assange and the russian government specifically putin? >> i haven't seen enough of that. obviously it seems as if there was collusion between assange and the russians in the last campaign. i've not seen all the evidence on that. i haven't opened -- there was some connection there at least and again there was damage done by him, so to me that should be part of overall investigation and i have an open mind on it but my inclings is yes, there was some involvement. >> what happened today in paris? we've now received this claim of responsibility from isis for the paris attack. they did so very, very quickly. is it rare to hear a claim so quickly from isis? what does that say to you and do you believe it was isis? >> again p it's too early to tell. it certainly appears -- all the indicators are that it was terrorist and it was islamist and isis would be the most likely suspect. the fact that the perpetrator who was shot was on a terror watch list or the french equivalent of our terror watch list makes it pretty clear to me t

he also likened julian assange to a demon and suggested assange is not protected under the first amendment. it's been nearly five years since julian assange entered the ecuadorian embassy in london seeking political asylum fearing a swedish arrest warrant could lead to his extradition to the united states. for more, we go to rio de janeiro, brazil where we're joined via democracy now! video stream by glenn greenwald, pulitzer prize-winning journalist and one of the founding editors of the intercept. his recent piece is headlined "trump's cia director pompeo, targeting wikileaks, explicitly threatens speech and press freedoms." glenn, welcome to democracy now! your response to the latest news that the u.s. government the justice department is preparing arrest warrant for julian assange? what is interesting is the justice department under president obama experiment it with this idea for a long time. they impaneled a grand jury to criminally investigate wikileaks and assange. they wanted to prosecute them for publishing the trove of to thets 2011 relating iraqi afghanistan wars as well as the u.s. state department diplomatic cables.

julian assange. he calls an "air fraud and wikileaks a hostile intelligence service." >> individual such as julian assangend edward snowden seek to use that information to make a name for themselves. as long as they make a splash, their care nothing about the lives they put at risk or the damage they caused a national security. >> jon: catherine herridge live in washington with more on all of this. you were at the director's speech, so of all of the security threats this nation faces, why focus on wikileaks? speak of the cia director said he chose to highlight wikileaks because it is part of an emerging pattern where small groups partner with emma enemy states to amplify the damage to u.s. national security. >> we have spent a lot of time looking at hard targets, nation state actors, but now have this new threat sitting out there which behaves in a slighty different way but has as its mode of the destruction of america and the very same way that those countries do. >> director pompeo signaled and singled out julian assange, more than four years ago, he sought asylum in ecuador and fled to embassy in londo

julian assange. a big development here. what are you learning? >> reporter: significant here, erin. u.s. authorities have prepared charges against julian assange. now, the justice department probe of assange and wikileaks dates back to constituent when they posted thousands of files stolen by the former u.s. intelligence service known as chelsea manning. we have learned they now believe they have found a way to move forward against assange. the attorney general was asked by our lawyer jared. here's what he said. >> you said crime reduction overall is one of your top priorities in the department. last wreak we heard from the cia that eliminating the discourage of wikileaks. can you talk about whether it's a role of your department to arrest assange once and for all and what are you doing now? >> we are going to step up our effort and already are stepping up our efforts on all leaks. this is a man that's gone beyond anything that i'm aware of. we have professionals that -- the security of the united states for years that are shocked by the number of leaks. some of them are quite serious, so yes, it is a priority. we've already begun to step up our

julian assange, who has been in ecuadoran embabassforlmost ve y years now. pompeo calling wikileaks hostile, nonstate intelligence service, calling julian assange himself a demon said d he is not protected by the first amendment. your thoughts? well, i think it speaks for itself. wikileaks has released lots of information that governments don't like. itit is overwhelminglyly informn .hat citizens should have it is informatation about whethr governments are doing. perfectly natural that systems of power that don't t want to be exposed,d, so they will d do wht they can to prevent exposure. i think it is a disgraceful act. in fact, i think it is disgraceful to even keep julian assange hold up in the ecuadoron embassy. i did visit him there once, but you can guess your self -- in many ways, it is worse thahan imprisonment. at least if you're in prison, you can n see other pririsonersd you can get out and look at the sunshine now and then. wherein a small apartment he can't -- he can go to ththe balcony, b but that t is about . basically, a c couple of rooms inside a small apartment. it is not a bibig embassy. ththe embassssy is kind of liken apartment t in london,

julian assange. we will analyze the situation when we return. >> greg: thanks for staying with us. i am greg garfield. julian made a career of publishing -- assange has been holed up for years at the ecuadorian embassy in london, of any extradition. where he is accused of rape, jeff sessions was asked about assange. >> -- we are going to step up our effort and we are stepping up our efforts on all of this. with this is a matter that has gone beyond anything i'm aware of. we have professionals in the security business of the united states for many years that are shocked by the number of leaks and some of them are quite serious. so, yes. it is a priority. we will seek to put people in jail. >> greg: joining us now from richmond, ken cuccinelli, the former attorney general of virginia, and whitney bone. i will go to you first. i want to get this guy. i happen to think he's evil, bad, and wrong. i have to ask you, how do you get this guy? i don't know. >> you know, it's going to be very difficult. he's not going to be extradited this is a political expense of f espionage. he's also in ecuadorian embassy. he's un

country individuals such is as julian assange and edward snowden last week and there are reports tonight that federal prosecutors are considering charging wikileaks founder julianlitary documents. assange has been holed up in london for almost five years. let's talk about this. we've joined by rick stang got tonight who interviewed him as managing editor for "time" magazine. he is thankfully these days at msnbc contributor. tell us everything we need to know about this story. >> i have a for the in both camps as you mentioned, brian. i actually agree with the cia director. i think he's a nefarious actor who is looking to harm america and is cooperating with our adversaries like russia. at the same time he's also something else which may protect him, a publisher. wikileaks does publish this information, so on the one hand, you can indict him, but he may be protected by the first amendment freedoms to publish this stuff. i think it's a close call them these are what the correspondents are for to figure this out. >> i want to read you this quote. this is from julian assange and an op-ed for the "washington post" last week. he compared wikileaks to the "washington

julian assange are being orchestrated by the kremlin to distribute information that can be used as propaganda to undermine trust and confidence in the institutions of the united states of america. >> the lawyer for julianen contacted by the justice department and emphasized a key line we saw in this "washington post" piece by julian assange saying wikileaks is a news organization and cultivating sources is a protected activity. the justice department it seems sees it quite differently. >> shannon: yes, they do. thank you for keeping us updated. >> you're welcome. >> bill: watch this guy fly. >> racing to the plate. the throw is -- not in time and an incredible move. >> bill: toronto blue jays chris cogland misses the talk. if he goes low, i go high and he did. it was like seeing a unicorn. it just doesn't happen. check out the still frame. man, that's cool. blue jays went on to win that game. >> shannon: it was all worth it for sure. baseball is such a quiet, meditative game most of the time. >> bill: until lightning strike. that dive, that somersault. hit the place. perfect. >> shannon: one of the best of the year and it is only april, may, what is it april? >> i think they have 150 more games. >> sha

julian assange has been holed up in london for years now. what do we know about this? >> u.s. authorities have prepared charges to seek the arrest of wikileaks founder, julian assange from officials familiar with the matter. it went way back to 2010 when they became famous for the files by u.s. intelligence analyst now known as chelsea manning and prosecutors struggled whether it precluded the first amendment for the prosecution of assange and now they believe they found a way to move forward. the attorney general today was asked and here's what he said. >> reporter: you said crime reduction overhaul in the department. last week, you heard -- [ inaudible ] discussing the scourge of wikileaks and chelsea manning leaks. can you talk about whether it's a priority for your department to arrest assange once and for all and whether you can take him down? >> we are going to step up our effort and already are stepping up our efforts on all leaks. this is a matter that's gone beyond anything i'm aware of. we have professionals that have been in the security business of the united states for many years that are shocked by the number of leaks and some of them are quit

julian assange. his branch of the government is ready to crack downn share the sennments of the government secrets. julian assange and wikileaks has been called a major threat. jeff pegues has more. good morning. >> good morning. the justice department is taking steps to do that. they're said to be re-examining cases and they're targeting wikileaks and its founder julian assange. >> whenever a case can be made, we'll seek to put some people in jail. >> reporter: federal prosecutors are assessing whether to file charges for the release of stolen information by the association wikileaks. >> we're going to step up our effort and already are stepping upur efforts on all leaks. >> led by julian assange, welcome leakes has published classified information including three quarters of a sensitive documents from manning. >> if you're a wassingblower and you have material that's important, we will accept it, defend you, and publish it. >> wikileaks, i love wikileaks. >> the justice department inquiry comes as the cia and the fbi are looking for an insider, either a cia employee or contractor who exposed top secret

julian assange, when "the 11th hour" continues, after this. ohno. >>> while we do our best to quietly collect information on those who pose real threats to our country individuals such is as julian and edward snowden seek to use that information to make a name for themselves. it's time to call out wikileaks for what it really is, a non-state hostile intelligence service abetted by state actors like russia. >> cia director pompeo speaking about wikileaks last week and there are reports tonight that federal prosecutors are considering charging wikileaks founder julian assange in connection with the leaking of u.s. diplomatic and military documents. assange has been holed up at the aqua dorian embassy in london for almost five years. we are talking with rick stengel who interviewed julian assange. as managing editor for "time" magazine. he was secretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs under the obama administration. he is thankfully these days an msnbc contributor. tell us everything we need to know about this story. >> i have a foot in both camps as you mentioned, brian, as a form are government person, and a long-time journalist. i actually agreed with the cia di

he called the founder julian assange a narcissist and a coward who's done irreparable damage and he warned that the first amendment will protect him from punishment. >> julian and his kind ott r not interested in pursuing national liberties. >> in in his first address mike pompeo came out swinging at wikileaks and its founder, juial assange. >> it's time to call out wikileaks for what it is. >> the former congressman accused wikileaks of working directly with russian intelligence in stealing information from the democratic party and the clinton campaign. >> they used wikileaks to release data that the gru had obtained through cyber operations against the democratic national committee. >> in a rare appearance last month assange released thousands of cia documents. >> the intelligence agency lost control of all of its control. >> the elusive assange insisted. he isn't anti-u.s. orr pro-russian. >> we're hundreds of thousands of things. >> as a president, president trump loved wikileaks. >> i love wikileaks. >> because it hurt his opponent. >> it's like a treasure trove. >> pompeo was briefed in advance. they're going to go after wick weeks more actively than

julian assange. attorney general jeff sessions says his branch of the government is ready to crack down on those who share sensitive government secrets. wikileaks and julian assange have been called a major threat. jeff pegues is in washington with the latest on this story. jeff, good morning. >> good morning. the attorney general said yesterday that he is focused on prosecuting leaks and the justice department is taking steps to do that. officials are said to be re-examining cases that were previously investigated and they are targeting wikileaks and its founder, julian assange. >> whenever a case can be made, we will seek to put some people in jail. >> reporter: federal prosecutors are assessing whether to file charges related to the release of stolen u.s. information by the anti-secrecy organization wikileaks. >> we are going to step up our effort and already are stepping up our efforts on all leaks. >> reporter: led by julian assange, wikileaks has published classified information including nearly three quarters of a million sensitive documents from chelsea manning. in september of 2011 assange shared his mission with "60 minutes". >> if you're a whis

julian assange a narcissist and coward who has done irreparable damage cowa to u.s. national security, and he warned that assange's arneding incorrectly that first amendment will protect him from punishment. >> julian assange and his kind are not the slightest bit interested in improving civil liberties. >> reporter: in his first public libeess as cia director, mike pompeo came out swinging at wikileaks and its founder. nge. me to call out wikileaks as t nonstate host still intelligence service often abated by russia. theeporter: he accused wikileaks of working with wssian intelligence to release e-mai e-mails stolen from the democratic party and clinton campaign. >> we determined that russian military intelligence the gru wik wikileaks to release data of u.s. victims that the gru had obtained through cyber obtainions against the democratic national committee. op craticorter: in a rare public appearance last month assange announced the release of thousands of sensitive cia documents. >> the central intelligence gency lost control of its entire cyber weapons arsenal. >> reporter: the elusive assange insisted he isn't anti-s u.s. or prorussia. >> on russia and china we have >>blished hundreds of thou