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the thing that changed this whole dynamic about the don junior meeting wasn't don junior having some bout of recollection or crisis of conscious, this was the white house, advisers to the president who went to "the new york times" and added details about a meeting that had been had that changed the narrative. >> i don't want to get into the details of -- >> this is the story. i went and had a meeting. jared didn't report it, did report it. manafort has never said anything about this. don junior says it comes out that there was a meeting. i don't want to know your sources. when advisers talked about this, it gave legs to the suggestion that, yeah, there's more to this. there has to be -- there's more to this than we know right now. that in and of it self-is a very unusual dynamic. >> i'm going to dispute your characterization of how the events unfolded, without getting into sourcing or specific methods. one thing that was very notable was i think shortly after our story came out, there was a statement from mark kur ril low who represents the president's lawyer and that statement made

there is no suggestion that at the time donald trump junior knew -- >> really? you would advise -- >> finish, matt. go ahead. then i'll go to jennifer. >> i've run for public office twice, and you certainly want to have any advantage, any legal advantage you can. and one of the main advantages is to know what your opponent is either -- i mean, all sorts of things that could be happening. hillary clinton, there was so much smoke around here. >> but what if it's the russian national providing it. does that create a red flag? >> i guarantee you after that meeting after donald trump junior realized who that person was, that probably had a dramatic impact into how he felt about that meeting. >> you buy he didn't know at all this person was connected to a russian national given that his contact was from the 2013 miss universe pageant who set it up? >> we have no information right now that would suggest that he knew who this individual was or who the three were going to meet with. they must have been sold the fact that there was good information they needed to hear, an

with donald trump junior sean hannity on fox.isld trump tweeting but son's appearance, saying "my son did a good job last night. he was "transparent, and innocent. this is the greatest witchhunt in political history. bad. -- sad. you hear the when words "sources say" from the fake media, oftentimes those sourcesmake up -- those are made up and do not exist. what are your opinions? let's go to maryland on the democrat line. caller: thank you for having me. this is just like father, like son. shoutingcame to power about hillary clinton, go kill hillary, meanwhile, [indiscernible] searching for fake information, ng a reason to lie to the american people just before the election. and now he cannot find it. he is afraid of the press, it is a free country. the press will continue to do their work. we will not go into hiding. i believe that by the end of this day, either trump will be impeached and his children will go to jail. this is just beginning. thank you for having me. host: minnesota, we hear next from our independent line. call

donald trump junior was willing to meet with me.ould recognize the young gentlemen for probably the first 7-10 minutes. then, he stood up and left the room. it was mr. jared kushner and he never came back, by the way. the other individual who was at the same meeting was always looking at his phone. he was reading something. he never took any active part in the conversation. that was mr. manafort. >> they had the impression it appears that they were going to be told some information that you had about the dnc. how did they get that information? >> it is quite possible that maybe they were looking for such information. they wanted it so badly. >> she puts people at the meeting. she puts nothing on herself in terms of having any bad information or having any connection to the kremlin. is that helpful to you in any way? >> it certainly corroborates the meeting took place and among those parties and in the context in which the trump campaign denies any of these meetings ever happened and whether they are forced to acknowledge they happen

vonnie: emails released by donald trump junior.ider british journalist, is linked through the miss universe pageant. course added with donald trump junior and said the documents that this lawyer he was trying to set a meeting up with would incriminate hillary clinton and her dealings with russia. it would be very useful to your father. this is very high level and sensitive information. this is extremely important because we know donald trump junior was aware of russia trying to add support to the campaign. in that meeting that did take place, jared kushner and paul manafort were there. we are going to dig through all of this. i do want to point out that the market has taken a dive off the back of the headlines. the dow is down .5%. mark: this is the stoxx 600. it is similar to the other charts. we have taken another leg down. we are down .7% did i am going to push g r r. in four.he third day that's pushing this a little bit lower. we were down lower anyway. the earning season is underway. pepsi has a report later. this is a great c

and not just from donald trump junior.ies of campaign officials that denied in the past that there were any connections or meetings between trump campaign officials and the russians. this is significant. there's reasons on capitol hill this isn't significant, but it's also significant because it knocks the trump administration off message. they've acknowledged in the last few days that it's harder to get things done on capitol hill because of these swirling russia stories. and we just got a tweet from donald trump junior who said he would be willing to talk to people on capitol hill about what he learned. that is obviously going to be significant if and when that happens. but from a legislative standpoint, you have to remember donald trump is trying to get things done on capitol hill while all of this is going on. and his aides believe that when he went to poland, when he went to gemny and met with putin, this would be take care out of the story that has been hanging over this white house for really months now. and it does

don junior? anyone? the names coming out? >> i would say don junior did not collude with anybody to influence the election. >> what about flynn? >> to my knowledge he did not collude with anybody to influence the election. our position is no one in the trump campaign colluded to influence the election. the democrats had a weak candidate and president trump had a stronger message and they're constantly looking for ways to undermine the president and delegitimize his presidency. >> reporter: where the president arrived for the g-20 summit, it was widely reported that the putin regime was cracking down on the opposition candidate at the time. this has been just the latest in a series of events in which human rights have been crushed in russia. was human rights raised at all by the president in his conversation with putin? >> i'm not sure. i'll have to ask and get back to that. >> reporter: my other one is -- >> i knew there was a second one coming. >> reporter: the president did talk privately with chancellor merkel, we know, da

look how don junior handled this whole thing. he didn't give any of this up until "the new york times" got i it. then he released the e-mails talking about how he would love to get the information that would help his father. he wasn't transparent about that. this is the same white house that's turning off the cameras in white house broefings, where the president is sitting and recording television all day and watching it and fuming about what going on all day. the reality is -- first of all, the president needs an attitude adjustment about this russia probe, that it's not an attack on his legitimacy unless there's more to this that we don't know, which is possible. he needs to answer who met with whom, what the associations were like, try to account for the fact that he was so flirtatious with vladimir putin that it could have resulted in this. how would detailing his financial arrangements with russia as well. >> guys, stick around. we have many more questions for you. meanwhile, democrats are on the attack using words like trea

donald junior has said as much. i'll leave the laws to the special counsel. >> you just acknowledged that this is not a question of legal violation of the law. >> i never said it was. >> i understand that and i appreciate your honesty and integrity. it's also the law. it's not a violation of the law here. but donald trump jr. yesterday said in the heat of the campaign, there's a lot of activity going on, 20 minute meeting that did not produce anything, so there was no -- >> we don't know that. >> donald trump jr. said that, the lawyer natalia said it did not. so we've got -- >> you have such credibility issues here. you don't know that to be a fact is all i'm saying. you do not know that to be a fact. >> what do i not know to be a fact? >> you do not know what was said in that meeting and what happened after it for a fact? >> like any lawyer, chris, you base it on the evidence you see. the woman -- >> you have no evidence. >> hold it. your network has aired interviews with natalia saying it did not happen. you put i

junior with my time at the campaign and i have always admired him. he came forward and took the blame for this, but paul manafort is notorious for not reading his e-mails. he was getting upwards of 100. >> but this is one from the president's son, the president's son who, at the time, was trying to push out corey lewendowski. he opening an e-mail, he sees it is a e-mail from the president's son, and he is part of the structure. want automatic answer was going to be yes. don junior, if he asked -- >> even if it was something that should not have happened? yes, no matter what? >> if you didn't read the rest of the e-mail, question, it is important to get to the bottom of it, the sooner we can all stop speculating about who was at this meeting and how it is better off. if you think this will end up collusion or delusion, it is not fam ch factu factual. >> thank you for joining today. >> john mccain is back home recovering from what his doctors call a minimally invasive crane krercran cranectomy. >> more protests happening against the gop efforts to repe

here it is. >> don junior changed his story. he says he met with her because she had bad information on clinton. >> this is why he learned nothing from that meeting. >> it doesn't matter what he learned. it matters why he took the meeting. >> yes, it does. it matters completely. yes, it does. >> they are looking into whether or not russia was trying to get inside the election. he admits he took the meeting because someone was offering him that type of information. it matters, period. >> we learned that's not the sound bite i want them to show but what i was doing was testing her line, nothing came out of the meeting, they learned nothing. he didn't act on the meeting. nothing ever happened with another meeting. because it amounted to nothing it doesn't matter. i don't think that works legally in terms of or ethically in terms of analyzing don junior's decision to accept this solicitation and offer for the meeting and go. >> one reason that don junior has hired a lawyer and that he and his lawyer are going to have some follow-up

coming up, trump junior's show and tell.he president's eldest son takes to twitter to mount a defense on the latest email scandal to hit washington.we get the latest from the hill. plus comeback.tolo's he returns to the startup scene with a new focus on fitness. he joins us for a wide-ranging interview from everything from twitter's newly hired cfo, to the culture in silicon valley. amazon echo hits all the right notes on its way to the top of prime day's bestseller list. doubles down on the discount bonanza to push the digital assistant into more homes. the lead. that is the email bombshell coming out of washington involving president trump's eldest son, donald trump junior. trump junior used his twitter account to reveal a series of female exchanges with a british publicist showing he was promised, damaging information about hillary clinton at a meeting with a russian lawyer during the presidential campaign. donald trump junior said in a statement that he had released emails "in order to be totally transparent." president

it involves donald trump junior. breaking in the last 30 minutes, the new york times reporting that donald trump junior met with a russian laier after being promised damaging information on hillary clinton. this directly contradicts what don junior told msnbc news that this meeting happened in 2016. he was asked to attend by an acquaintance and was not told the name of the person i would be meeting, and russian adoption policies. if the times report is accurate it would be the first evidence of someone very close to trump, his own son, meeting with the russians to try to damage hillary clinton. also according to the times reporting that don junior brought in paul manafort and jared kushner all working on the campaign. paul manafort working as the campaign manager at the time. don junior requested they attend this meeting. all of this coming after president trump spoke out about that meeting with vladimir putin in an early morning tweet storm, but the president refused to make clear whether he believed putin's hacking

the same thing with donald trump junior.he question i would have to put to them, to me the important thing about the meeting is they were informed in the e-mails that russia, at least the putin crony, wanted to help the trump campaign with secret information. they say nothing came out of this meeting. why throughout the campaign and the weeks and months ahead, that they deny that russia had anything to do with the hacking or anything else when they were told russia wanted to take action against hillary. there's a lot to ask them about, both them beyond that meeting. >> one of the things about donald trump junior and we saw when he did that interview with hannity is he comes across as this is everything. he was so very blunt about it. there was no equivocating there. there was no legalese. there was no talking in ways of what the meaning of the word is is. he was unequivocal in his statements which took less than 24 hours to be not true. then he puts out e-mails that directly contradict what he said. he can't do that here, ri

. >> how do you characterize what don junior did in taking the meeting? >> i listened to the media on both sides of it and i try to put myself in the position of donald trump senior and donald trump jr. i thought if that information came to me, i would want a firewall. this fell to donald trump jr. he should have had a firewall. you would have pushed that as far down the chain as you could to get reliable information and feed it back up if it were valid and something that was legitimate. >> i want to be clear on what you mean by a firewall. if you got an e-mail saying the crown prosecutor of russia offered to provide the trump campaign with official documents and information that would incriminate hillary, this is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of russia and its government's support for mr. king, if that came to you, what would you have done? >> i think, and it's hard for any of us to look back through this in the rear view mirror, but i think i would have done, if i knew the individual, and it sounds like don junior did k

donald trump junior has provided cnn with the following statement. quote, i was asked to have a meeting by an acquaintance i knew from the 2013 miss universe pageant with an individual who i was told might have information helpful to the campaign. i was not told her name prior to the meeting. i asked jared and paul to attend. jared kushner and paul manafort and told them nothing of the substance. we had a meeting in june 2016 and after pleasantries were exchanged the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to russia were funding the democratic national committee and supporting miss clinton. her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. no details or supporting information was provided or even offered. it quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information, she then changed subjects and began discussing the adoption of russian children and mentioned the mag nifky act. they were a pretext to the meeting. i interrupted her and advised her my father was not an elected official, but rather a private citizen and h

donald trump junior, they don't know anything about this game.if it is real information that is verifiable who is not going to get that information? real information, who cares about it. heather: democrats did with ukraine saying they had information. rob: if the information is real, the source matters that much. heather: it should matter and everyone should be aware of it. rob: it is still real information. heather: what do you think? rob: we will ask you guys out there, are they creating a double standards, democrats, some in the media, attacks on donald trump junior, there is a story here, what do you think? heather: the lobbying. it runs rampant through washington dc and if people look into that, countries that lobby political leaders to get them on the side is amazing. rob: a dirty dirty game. a challenge, donald trump's reinstated travel ban, being left up to the supreme court, the federal judge to change the scope, the supreme court expected to hear arguments this fall, it respects people from the list of this country's from coming to the

mr trump junior says if it's what you say i love it. the meeting was set up by the british publicist rope goldston. much was promised but the russian lawyer today denied any links with the kremlin. he was last one of those at the meeting thought she was going to deliver information on hillary clinton. boyd yeah it's quite possible that maybe they were looking for such information they wanted so badly. don't. but the reaction from politicians today shows that these drip drip revelations are proving damaging to the trumpet ministration. it's serious and this is a serious situation and one. that is a long way from ove. it doesn't appear that when they had information that this person might be. connect with the russian government or russian national that they didn't immediately call the fbi. this is very problematic. and we cannot allow foreign governments to reach out to anybody's campaign say we'd like to help you that is a non starter. so what is president trump make of it all. well today he said that his son was a high quality person an

why are the don junior e-mails in a different category? >> i mean, mainly because this is the first kind of explicit thing where we've had someone -- donald junior is not carter page. he's someone who's donald trump's son. he's still in donald trump's circle, i assume, and he's in these e-mails more explicit. he loves, as the word love is in the e-mail, actually loves the idea that they can get information from the russians that may help win the election. so now we have sort of two facts. we have the trump campaign was open to receiving information from the russians, and we know that the russians sort of hacked into john podesta and the dnc e-mails. what we don't know is kind of the middle ground there which is did don junior wanted that help, did the russians give that help with some kind of coordination with the trump campaign? we don't know the answer to that question. and that's still the core question. so we're still searching, but the story still has much more to go. >> you know, a.b., i'm interested by ana's reporting as she was on

another busy week, hadas >> always a fun week with this presidency, but the tweets about don junior,ms like we go back in another cycle every time this comes up >> what do you think with donald trump junior putting out the e-mails since he knew they were going to come out is he helping himself? is he doing damage control or is he making it worse? give us your take on this. >> well, it was really interesting that actually the "new york times" had told done junior's team told we're going to get an extra hour to comment and at 11:00 a.m. the agreed upon hour, maybe they did did get the comment to the "new york times" as well. they decided to get ahead of the story and publish the e-mails. in a pr sense, that's sort of helpful because it looks a little bit better when you're the one putting it out there. it definitely isn't helpful pconsidering he had spent the last three days not exactly being as forthright if at the beginning of the whole process here you go, here are my e-mails, i'll tweet them out. maybe it would have looked a little bit differently than it did now. looked like he ha

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don junior's response? "if it's what you say, i love it." last night, don junior went on fox news to explain -- >> in retrospect, i probably would have done things a little differently. for me this was opposition research, they had something, you know maybe concrete evidence to all the stories i'd been hearing about that were probably unreported for, you know, years, not just during the campaign. so, i just wanted to hear it out. >> did you ever meet with any other person from russia that you know? >> i don't even know. i have probably met with other people from russia. >> i mean during the campaign. >> certainly not in the context of a formalized meeting or anything like that, because why would i? >> reporter: when asked in march by "the new york times" whether he'd had campaign-related meetings with russians, donald trump jr. said, "none that were set up and certainly none that i was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form." and just a month after the meeting with the russian lawyer, don junior angrily dismissed suggestions the

trump junior responded, "if it's what your say, i love it, especially later in the summer."hat has democrats like senator tim kaine using words like perjury and perhaps even treason. even some republican senators like lindsey graham are calling that email exchange very disturbing. donald trump junior says that he simply viewed that meeting as a routine opposition research and that his father knew nothing about it. listen. >> do you tell your father anything about this? >> it was such a nothing. there was nothing to tell. i wouldn't have even remembered it until you start scouring through this stuff. it was literally just a way to 20 minutes, which was a shame. >> now, there are bipartisan calls for donald trump junior to appear on capitol hill and testify under oath and tonight, he has agreed to cooperate. eric, kat, eboni. any questions? >> eboni: my question is around the tim kaine statements around perjury or at the question of it. to your understanding, is that a result of the denial that initially donald trump, jr., gave around his meetings with the russians officials?

trump junior is not a government employee. and so he has no forms to fill out and therefore he has no underlying obligation to be truthful. however, of course, in the end there will be an evaluation made as to whether or not this conduct this meeting in particular, amounted to a conspiracy to violate the federal election laws. it is illegal to solicit a foreign national to make a contribution. and it doesn't even have to be accepted, this solicitation doesn't have to be accepted to be a violation of this statute. and so trump junior and kushner in respect of this, could well be on the brink of being chargeable for conspiring to violate these laws. we have facts that we still need to gather, but that's the cusp on which they sit. >> and perhaps largely, that's why we're hearing from one citizen and not the other government employee thus far, about what really happened here. julian, you called this revelation about the meeting and the emails the most damaging yet. that was before we learned about the other people in the room. so

there are multiple reports of white house turmoil because of what donald junior exposed with his owners mails. the finger pointing in the white house is described by "the new york times" as a circular firing squad. >> the president's son admitting he would handle things differently if he could do it all over again. his new e-mails are the clearest proof yet that trump junior understood the meeting was intended to get dirt on hillary clinton from the russian government. at least that's what was promised. the president again trying to call investigations into russian meddling a witch hunt. let's begin with cnn's jason carroll live at the white house. never a dull moment there, jason. >> reporter: never at all. other than tweeting the president has been keeping a low profile. this is the third consecutive day he's not had a public event on his schedule ahead of leaving for the trip for paris later on this evening. this controversy is really not only overshadowed the white house, but overshadowed the president's agenda as he prepares for this next overseas visit. >> in retrospect i would ha

>> even don junior indicated that hindsight is 20/20. they will have to go through and answer questioned. what are we here for? to legislate on behalf of the american people. that's what we'll have to do first and fore most. >> your job is also to protect democracy and respectfully you are a congressman that is a lower position than the president of the united states. you knew that a meeting like that would probably not be a good idea. shouldn't the president of the united states and his team know it is not a good idea? shouldn't they be held to has high of a standard that you hold youfr? >> sure, but this is with hindsight being 20/20. this is just one piece for the puzzle. allowing the evidence to drive the investigation. we can't lose sight of why we're here. talking with the president, i know he cares deeply about the marijuana people, and allevia alleviating the burdens on their back. >> people can vote soundly and know their vote matters, is that not what president is there for? >> absolutely. that is why going through the process

jason, trump junior in the past, here's the thing. saying now, look, i got this e-mail about a russian government attorney and i'm a business guy. of course i wanted to hear what they had to say. he would haven't the first instinct to call the fbi. but he had done a lot of trips to russia. he called it a, quote, scary place. are you surprised he would have gone ahead with a meeting like this as he thought it was. >> i think it's important to take a look at where things were at the time this this e-mail came in. this was well before any of the russian news came to the forefront. the introduction came from an acquaintance. and again it is not like the e-mail said that somebody is going to depart the kremlin, hop into red october, park it, uber across town and come up to trump tower to present some information to you. it was a lawyer that was in town for some client matter that wanted to drop by and chat with them. it ended up being a 20 minute meeting. >> a russian government lawyer with highly sensitive information from the russian gov

i'll a new was that donald trump junior was willing to meet with was that donald trump junior was willing to meet with me. leftood up, and he soon the room after the meeting. jared kushner never came back, by the way. the other man at the meeting was always looking at his phone. he was reading something, and he active role in the conversation. that was mr. paul manafort. >> they were under the impression that you would be sharing information with them about the dnc. how did they get that information? >> it is possible that they were looking for that information. they were looking for it so badly. >> this morning, she denied being part of a russian government effort to influence president trump's election. you have any connection to the russian government? >> no. nbc news providing that link. you can find it on their twitter page. line inon the democrats west virginia. go ahead. caller: good morning. i just want to tell you that i think gop stands for good old people. fact checkers say that 91% of the things that donald trump says is not true. i do not understand why everyone is so intent

trump goldstone tells trump junior. i can also send this information to your father via rhona, but it is ultra sense tough so wanted to send it to you first. donald trump jr. clearly seems to welcome the offer telling goldstone if it's what you say, i love it, especially later in the summer. now this evening, donald trump jr. is speaking ot about those e-mails and the meet with the russian lawyer saying he would have done things differently. let's take a listen to some of his interview on fox news that aired just a few minutes ago. >> do you tell your father anything about this? >> it was such a nothing -- there was nothing to tell. i wouldn't have even remembered it until you start scouring through this stuff. it was just a waste of 20 minutes, which was a shame. >> did you ever meet with any other person from russia that you know of? >> i've probably met with other people from russia. >> not in the context of actual -- a formalized meeting or anything like that. because, why would i? in the grand scheme of things, how

and donald trump junior said he disclosed several aboabout the .om our perspective, my answer stands. the president was not engaged in this or aware of it. >> let's bring in bruce levell, hello to you. i want to talk about how bill flores is suggesting what are distractions from his agenda. >> i think it would be in the president's best interest to remove all of the children from the white house. not only donald trump but ivanka and jared kushner. i wish that he would do that so the white house can use professionals. >> i think it is healthy to have a family support structure around him. morally, and i don't see any conflict of interest whatsoever. i think it is an unfair statement. what happened to the time that we, as americans and parts of some media did not attack the president's children. there has to be a level of restoring that et quit iquette coming after children. >> it's different, bruce, they're actors in the campaign. they have clearances, they're working for the government. i talk with them all of the time about things and you don't se

he was working with jerod kushner and donald trump junior. to someone who said they wanted to get this information out as quickly as possible. nothingl they did legally wrong. question that this is bad. anything ont cloud policy issues republicans want to move ahead on in congress. i spoke with a senior republican strategist who works with the trump administration. this looks badbt politically. the presence son was not seeking a clearance from national security. legal not have a obligation to report the meeting. we are going to be looking into that. has a clearance during the campaign. o'brien is also with us. there is a pattern he established. the net is even wider. tim: the first question is why donald trump junior released these? it's another moment. they are prioritizing a media campaign. i don't think they are thinking about the legal circumstances. that question gets raised. the second thing is they are certainly in legal consequence now. these emails establish a point in time where they are openly colluding with russian operatives. did

so to which don junior replied if it is what you say i love it. dialogue that is raising concern on both side of the aisle. >> this is most problematic matter thing i have seen thus far. >> this is moving in perjury, false statements and potentially treason. >> reporter: president released a statement calling his son a high quality person, while applauding his transparency. the president's attorney insists that don junior did nothing wrong. >> i'm just trying to look at it as a lawyer saying what statute of law has been violated what code section and it doesn't exist. >> reporter: special counsel robert muhler and his investigation in the meddling is expect to look in the e-mails and meetings. hanna daniels for cbs-3 "eyewitness news". >>> trump junior said he will testify under oath if asks, and he insist he didn't tell his father about the meeting because there was nothing to tell. >>> coming up man tries to grill a stake by a fire. >> but so bad homes had to be evacuated. hear how things got out offhanded in such a short amount of time. >>> for

was trump junior duped?taking the meeting he exposed himself, he exposed manafort and kushner to russian leverage. the meeting should never have taken place. the americans involved might not have known that, but the russians surely did. was the real purpose to document evidence of wrongful conduct and then put it in a file on each of these three americans? the russians are known for this aggressive use of compromising information, which they call kompromat. i've got the perfect guess to ask about my theory. keith darden is an american university political scientist, who is writing a book on co kompromat. if i outlined that this in and of it is is the kompromat. >> that's the standard mode of operation for the kgb. if they had material on someone that incriminated them or was morally compromising, something that would embarrass them publicly. they held that information until the time when it was perhaps useful to employ the person who was the object of that information in a what i that would suit the kgb. and

don junior replies he can call his cell. goldstone says he's on stage in moscow but should be off in 20 minutes. that was 3:40 p.m. on june 6th. nearly an hour later don junior replies, rob, thanks for the help. 24 hours later goldstone sent another letter saying emin asked that i schedule a meeting with you and the russian government attorney. i believe you are aware of the meeting. ing a agalarov's lawyer -- >> i really can't speak to what rob goldstone was thinking. but i'll tell you again that that call didn't happen. i don't know if there was someone else who spoke to donald trump jr. about this prospective meeting, but it wasn't my client. again, i don't know where mr. goldstone got his information from but it is just categorically incorrect. >> the agalarov's attorney tells cnn emin and don junior did speak on the phone a few months prior to this meeting. >>> let's discuss. a cnn political analyst and white house correspondent for politico joins us. page pate, cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. great to

remember don junior is an advisor but not part of the campaign.r and paul -- indeed, the campaign manager was present. i don't think saying they didn't know will fly. scarlet: is he absolving any blame? >> it depends on what paul manafort might've heard or other campaign members. no one is supposed to be trying to influence or interferwith the ection. taking something from a foreign government. julia: those that have the information suggested the election was not even discussed and she had other things she wanted to discuss. does that matter? in light of what the email suggests? intent, whatthe happened, and what did you do afterwards? that will make of the severity of the infraction. there is a dispute about what was discussed but we know that the lawyer had a long history of trying to get rid of the magnitsky act, a sore spot between the russians in the u.s.. .hat was her goal a part of that included allowing adoptions of russians again because that is how russia responded to the u.s.. it was very clear that was her agenda. to say that she was n

you have don, junior, he took the meeting. he's the one running around with his fake news campaign all the time, and now it looks like dogt protest too much giving obviously changed statements and a huge credibility issue for him. on the other front, you have what happened with the putin-trump meeting. the day before the president once again questions the reality about whether or not russia hacked. then he goes in and coming out saying, he was really death, he asked him once, twice, maybe three times about this, and he was really strong. he comes out of the meeting and proposes working with russia on cyber security and says it is time to move on, and then tweets something that is almost impossible to understand which is, yeah, we talked about it, but i know it's not possible. i know it can never happen. what is that all about? again, self imposed, but what's going on there? >> there's erratic quality to the policy making and decision making of the administration where words that mean something on tuesday don't mean anything on

we can't accept anything that don junior says. >> one of his personal lawyers coming to trump junior's defense during a pr blitz on the sunday show. >> donald trump jr. himself said things should have been done differently. having said that, none of that is violation of the law. that's more process. >> reporter: while raising a problem defense of the meeting. >> why did the secret service allow these people in? >> reporter: pushing back, noting in a statement donald trump jr. was not a protectee of the usss and therefore we could not have screened anyone he was meeting with at the time. the president's biggest plan, repeal and replace of obamacare delayed on capitol hill, in part, due to a health scare involving a key senator, senator john mccain now recovering from surgery. another delay with the cbo score, which is essentially the estimate of the cost of the plan on capitol hill. that, too, is being delayed as well. back to you. >> joe, thanks so much for all of that. let's bring in our political panel to discuss. analyst alex burns and david drecker. i think it's interesting to look

don junior responds, if it's what you say, i love it. six days later the meeting at trump tower was on. don junior, trump's son-in-law jared kushner, now a top adviser at the white house and then campaign manager paul manafort all sat down with the lawyer wasted 20 minutes which was a shame. >> reporter: there is no evidence the lawyer actually provided any information on clinton and, in fact, she denies she did. but the meeting appears to contradict denials from trump advisers that the president himself or anybody on his campaign had any contacts whatsoever with russian officials. >> are there any ties between mr. trump, you or your campaign and putin and his regime. >> no, there are for. it's absurd and no basis to it. >> did anyone involved in the trump campaign have any contact with russians. >> absolutely not and i discussed that with the president-elect just last night. >> i have nothing to do with russia. to the best of my knowledge no person that i deal with does. >> reporter: on capitol hill, the e-mails have reignited talk of a

trump junior says she claimed to have damaging information about hillary clinton. in an interview with nbc, she says she does not know how they got that impression. >> it's quited possible they were looking for information. they wanted it so badly. >> donald trump junior's new attorney called it much ado about nothing. >> the department of justice and congress are investigating whether the trump campaign colluded with russia to win >> it doesn't necessarily show that there was collusion, but it shows that don junior was collusion curious. >> don junior says he will cooperate with the investigation. >> rest assured. >> tuesday morning don junior tweeted media and dems are extremely invested in the russia story. if this nonsense meeting is all they have after a year i understand the desperation. mola lenghi for cbs news the white house. >> senate intelligence committee members say they will talk with paul manafort and jared kushner. as you can imagine just about everyone on social media has got some kind of opinion. some are trying to bring in the president's tweet t

don junior's name nor the agalarov's attorney will name this person.mains a bit of a mystery in terms of who he is but he claimed to the attorney, alan futerfas, that he was not there on behalf of the russian government but there representing the agalarov family and the attorney also told me that he was also there to kind of help the russian attorney, the female russian attorney to get to the meeting and make sure she got there okay. and so this is sort of putting the pieces of the puzzle together as we try to figure out who was in the meeting at trump tower and why. futerfas also said, because what he's trying to do here is make sure all of the stories line up and he said that this mystery eighth person, this representative of the agalarov family, also what he said was consistent with what others have said went on in this meeting, that there were pleasantries exchanged and the russian attorney talked about this alleged degr alleged derogatory information showing russians contributing to the dnc. what's worth mentioning here, the russian attorney in an

legally it's impossible for trump junior to be guilty of collusion. that's a political term it isn't in the criminal code but conspiracy kids and that's what robert muller is looking for. written proof that the trump campaign was or was not working with the russians. that director miller. for more on the story we can bring in arak listen in washington he's an attorney and a former u. s. state and federal prosecutor thank you very much for joining us on the program this evening. now yesterday donald trump and junior posted a four page email chain to twitter how much of a big deal is this email chain really. this is a huge deal it's impossible to overstate it it that the a lot has been made of it. and it's still not overstating it because this gives the lie to. everything the trump administration and the president himself have said as their primary. lines of defense in the in the whole rush investigation which is that he simply and specifically had no contacts with any russian intermediaries or anybody that he thought. was a russian intermediary in here

don junior responds, could we speak now? let me track him down in moscow, what number he could call. don junior replies, he can call his cell. goldstone replies, he's on stage in moscow but should be off within 20 minutes, so i'm sure can call. that was june 6th. nearly an hour later, don junior replies, rob, thanks for the help, raising the question of whether a phone call might have taken place during that time. 24 hours later, goldstone sent another meeting saying, they asked that i schedule a meeting, you and the russian government, attorney, i believe you are aware of the meeting. the attorney for donald junior told cnn that his client has no recollection of a phone call. >> that attorney is scott valver and he joins us live tonight from new york. he represents two of the men in donald trump's e-mails. thank you very much for taking the time. >> my pleasure. >> did your client aguilara speak to don jr. over the phone before or after the meeting with the russian lawyer? >> at some point before the meeting. he has no reco

he said everyone would have taken the meeting that don junior took. he said there was zero coordination, the dumbest thing i've ever heard. this is a hoax, this is made up by the democrats, greatest con job in history. a party sits down the day after they got their ass kicked, he said it, not me, what's their excu excuse? the white house has two lines, everyone would have taken the meeting, it's still a hoax. >> i don't think that's it. this is chapter 4, less than a week since this first came out. the president's traditional point the finger and blame game is not quite as probable as it usually is when he's saying don't believe the media and their fake sources. this is his own son who put out those e-mails in which it says very clearly, hey, we've got russian government information that's damaging to your opponent. great. i love it. it would be ideal if it came out in late summer. more discussion about, okay, this is a russian lawyer with government ties. it's there in black and white, something his own son put out there. the blame game of this being