the other part of this is, the kamikaze attacks.you might recall that there was a bit of the use of kamikaze both in the philippines, and in your jima. but this is country maxed up to the maximum level here at okinawa. but the kamikaze aircraft, and suicide boats. and bombs that they could drop for aircraft. that would destroy the american fleet as much as possible to the point where the american fleet would have to leave and isolate the american troops on land. then the japanese can go on the offensive. that was the notion. i'm not sure that yahara but that was going to be successful. but he was committed, and was able to convince others, that this is approach we need to take. this is going to be a battle of attrition, and just like you would jima, we are going to fight till the last man and cause the enemy as much bloodshed and destruction as possible. so here is the 32nd army slogan. one plane, for one warship. one vote, for one ship. one man, for ten of the enemy. or one tank. and that was their idea. to bloody the american forc

so they're able to knock out the bunker hill with two kamikaze hits. okay. we -- at this time we still have the american forces on okinawa, so now it's time to turn our attention to that bottom one-third of the island. by l plus 2, the second day, they've already divided the island in half. the marines and the 7th had both gotten over to the eastern side of the island. and you can see it's only a few miles wide at this area in the first place as well. and the army forces, the 7th and the 96th now are going to take a hard right turn with the 7th going down the eastern side of the island and the 96th division going down the western side of the island. they are facing the 62nd japanese division. that is the light division, the less reliable, the less robust of the two japanese divisions, and it's not too long. it's april 4th now, they're beginning to hit some much tougher resistance of the japanese. all these defensive positions that we've been illustrating before is what they're running against. the 96th -- i've got a better map here. the 96 runs into kauza ri

is it possible to fathom the phenomenon of the kamikaze?can we ever hope to understand going through the mind of a young japanese pilot, more or less strapped in his away and told him -- air plane and told him to plow into the first carrier they could fine. >> many kamikazes left diaries and letters and they're a whole literary writings in japanese 3/4 writings of the kamikaze. they sell like crazy. we actually do have quite a bit, even in english translation, telephoning us about the psychology of the pilots dedicated to give their lives in battle. and of course it's -- we have the more recent resonance of the suicide attacks across much of the islamic world, and the psychology is, i think, fascinating. many of the kamikaze pilots, particular live in the later stages of the war during the okinawa campaign, the largest kamikaze campaign of the war, you had young men who had been recruited into flight training, without being told they might be asked to give their lives, and then were pressured seemly to quote-unquote volunteer and many of th

kamikaze hit the bunker hill and moved to the enterprise and then i got hit by kamikaze and then they hit [inaudible] new mexico all in the same time. [laughter] >> yeah, that all happened in the space of about three days. >> you write about the wartime conferences and of course lots damn where they were warmed of prompt and utter destruction if they did not agree to unconditional surrender and i would haunted by this passage of the japanese prime minister response and he used the japanese word that can mean a lot of things in the word is [inaudible] and i'm no expert in japanese but it can mean a lot of thing we interpret it one way but he may have meant something different by that and is that possible? >> what is happening there was that the japanese ruling circle this tiny circle of military leaders around hirohito who essentially hold the nation's fate in their hands were deeply divided at this point. part of the japanese regime was essentially ready to recognize the necessity of surrender and the germans had been defeated and they were on the verge of their homeland being totally

number one, on the certification, this is a complete kamikaze mission, as you know, but it's worth restating. there's no way that joe biden is not going to be president come january 20th, and the republicans are setting up their base for a massive failure for reasons that are not clear to anybody. that's number one. number two, on the georgia election, kasie, the most consequential pair of races in

many of the kamikaze pilots particularly in later stages of the war during the okinawa campaign which was the largest kamikaze campaign of the war you had young men who had been recruited into flight training not being told they might be asked to give their lives and then they are pressured essentially to quote unquote volunteer and many of them were deeply reluctant and made that clear in their writings and often they would take off in their bases and then turned back saying they had engine problems and they were not able to find the fleet. from the americans point of view we've seen hundreds and literally hundreds of enemy planes come in and essentially behaving like man guided missiles which was a unique sort of horror and something i think many of our forces never thought they would see and find it hard to understand and i think it contributed to the sense that many of our people on our side have that the japanese were fundamentally different and they were fanatics in a way that made it very difficult for us to understand. we probably contributed to the context of the strategic bo

february 21st, >> kamikaze attacks start. and where can they go? they can't go anywhere.japanese know exactly where they're at. february 27th, airfield number two is seized. you're moving north by this time. an airfield number three by march 3rd. and again, the day was february 19th. to give you some sense of it. and again, general schmidt said this will last for ten days. when we have a long way to go. march 4th, the first b 29, lands on airfield number one thing. and there it is. the dynamite. the dynamite. that was the name of the ship. it had a faulty fuel gauge, it had to land there in an emergency, they were able to fix the fuel gauge, philip and get it off. the first of hundreds, that will lend their. saving thousands of lives in the process. and that was one of the main reasons, that they thought iowa jima was worth the fight. . japanese counterattack. on march 8th, the japanese pose a significant night attack. 1500 japanese soldiers, a mixture of troops,dtjs■and naval personnel. tñ of this? because remember, they said there is not going to be any bonsai charge. b

you notice i have the word kamikaze up there. kamikazes had been introduced shortly before that time. and we're talking about naval air ships attacking american ships. they were used to certain extent here in iwo jima. it's going to be much more prevalent when you get to okinawa. and a few other support troops as well. one other colorful character that i want to mention here is lieutenant colonel takashi nichi. he commanded the tank regimen on the island. he had purchased a horse when he went to italy because the japanese were embarrassed in the 1928 olympics. and i'm almost embarrassed to say the name of the horse. the name of the horse he purchased was uranus. and he won a gold medal in e question chan show jumping. that's the one and only equestrian medal the japanese won. he was a man about town. he had a convertible. he cohorted with people like the hollywood celebritities. he was very popular. and he ends up in iwo jima. he was popular in the united states. a lot of the old guard and japanese army, especially the old cavalr

strategy in invading the island and the japanese plans for defense, which included kamikaze attacks on u.s. warships. he also described the months of hard combat that resulted in the deaths of more than 12,000 u.s. soldiers, sailors and marines, and over 200,000 japanese military and civilian deaths. the abraham lincoln presidential library and museum hosted this event and provided the video. okinawa on the doorstep of japan, the last battle of world war ii. if you recall our conversation last time about iwo jima, this is a larger, longer, bloodier version of iwo jima. the intensity

and i would hope that the members of congress, you know, who are going to participate in that kamikaze on wednesday, you know, would cease and desist and run the other way. i mean wi, i think that's what these guys are doing. they're trying to tell everybody to stop. count the votes, keep the military out of it, and let's get on with the transition. >> congressman dent, chairman rogers, thank you both very much. we really appreciate your perspective on all of this. >> thanks for having us. >> thanks, alison. >>> now to coronavirus. the delays in the vaccine rollout have health officials considering giving half doses. how will that speed anything up? is that a good idea? we have all the latest details for you, next. get ready - our most popular battery is now even more powerful. the stronger, lasts-longer energizer max. hi susan! honey? yeah? i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad... try this new robitussin honey severe. the real honey you love... plus, the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? new robitussin honey severe. strong relief for your sev

president, i mean, the president is going out there telling people who aren't prepared to go on this kamikazehe's calling them surrenderers. that's what he's doing, and can a pit laters. i was called that in 2013 because i didn't go on that suicide mission of shutting down the government back then. this is what they do, if you don't agree with them they call you names. sadly there are members with whom i have spoken that are mortified by this. the reckoning within the republican party i think is now coming. maybe this is the inflection point, wednesday's vote on the objection to the electoral votes, that and this georgia situation where the president has clearly committed a blatant act of corruption for all of us to see. so we are in a really bad place. >> yesterday, charlie, on the show you suggested that brad raffensperger who was on the receiving end of that corrupt request on the phone call immediately refer the case to the georgia attorney general or even to the department of justice and we just had -- john just talked to congressman jim clyburn on who basically just said it's time to mo

number one, on the certification, this is a complete kamikaze mission, as you know, but it's worth restating. there's no way that joe biden is not going to be president come january 20th, and the republicans are setting up their base for a massive failure for reasons that are not clear to anybody. that's number one. number two, on the georgia election, kasie, the most consequential pair of races in recent memory. the entire senate balance comes down to tonight. karl rove, who ran the georgia battleground fund, announced on a ku a call yesterday with bundlers, with donors to the effort to keep those seats raise, that he raised $58 million to boost loeffler and perdue. and what he said is, the campaign models show that if a million, or a million or more georgians turn out on election day, then republicans will be able to win both of those seats right now. rove, who obviously ran two successful presidential campaigns that won georgia, said that he believes that republicans will win both seats -- both seats -- that's loeffler and perdue -- which would keep the senate at a 52-48 majority with mit

you will notice i have the word kamikaze up there. we are talking about naval airships attacking american ships. they are used to a certain extent here on iwo jima. it will be much more prevalent when you get to open our -- two ok now -- to okinawa. i want to mention a colorful character. he commanded the 26th tank regiment on the island. he was a noted equestrian. he purchased a horse when he went to italy because the japanese were embarrassed in the 1928 olympics. i am almost embarrassed to say the name of the horse. the name of the horse he purchased was uranus. he entered that horse in the 1932 olympics in los angeles and actually won a gold medal in equestrian show jumping. and that is the one and only equestrian medal the japanese have ever won. he was something of a man about town. he had a convertible. met with people like charlie chaplin, mary pickford, celebrities. he was popular. he ended up in iwo jima. he was popular in the united states. a lot of the old guard, the japanese army, looked down their nose at that and figure

yes, they are going to do this and it's a kamikaze mission. >> it is, and the only thing that josh hawleyomplish as mitch mcconnell tried to tell him is put other republicans in a bad position and possibly hurt republicans' chances of winning in the state of georgia tomorrow, especially, especially after that tape was released yesterday with the president trying to pressure the secretary of state of georgia to find 11, 780 votes and overturn that election. anna, pell us about punch bowl. >> yes, thanks. we are excited to be here. official launch day this morning. we are a news company focused on pow power, people and politics in washington. we are going to be delivering newsletters three times a day monday through friday, all the news about what's happening in washington. you can subscribe at punchbowl .news. this morning we have an interview with alexandria ocasio-cortez. she was pretty coy, but you can read about that at punch bowl .news. >> the new daily newsletter is punch bowl news. >> i have already signed up for it. i am really excited. >> thank you both very much. we look forward

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