karen finerman, this notion of a fed put, maybe it's still there. maybe it still exists. but it's a whole lot lower than i think maybe a lot of investors are pricing right now. >> yeah, certainly not an at-the-market put. but i agree with mike. and definitely guy and the others why should the fed dwhaswhat sh make the fed slow down we're starting to see housing prices roll over a little bit. particularly with china reopening, which could cause some inflationary pressure, they've come this far. i don't see why they should put on the brakes. i think we'll see -- 25 is i guess the most likely. but i think we'll see the hawks come out in droves kind of after that i don't know if the market cares or not, but i think that's what should happen. i think that's what will happen. >> we're still seeing a yield curve that is back headed towards in my opinion negative% 1% and you can talk about the fed controlling things all you want. maybe they can control the front end. they certainly don't have control over the back end. if mike is right, if you see a flood into bonds, maybe on the