sector >> yeah, we should have asked the ghost of potter stewart to come on the show tonight to maybe he would be able to speak about what karenpeaking about. i'll say this about alibaba. you go back to halloween a few years ago, boo, again, when it was a $310 stock it's come off 80%. along the way, there have been a number of mine-numbing rallies given the volume it traded today, i think it traded north of 85 million shares, i would submit -- and you can fast fire to me tomorrow, it's happened before -- that we're on the precipice of another one of those rallies. it doesn't mean we're out of the woods. you could easily see this stock go up over a two-day period and still be in this significant down trend. >> you'll know it when you see it, going back to your reference. brian kelly, alibaba used to be the example, the epitome, the poster child of the growing chinese economy, right it's got its cloud business too. it's the amazon of china effectively. there's something there, isn't there? maybe this is not just p-o-r-n could it be a value? >> thank you. >> it could be a value but the problem is, the government doesn't have your