and just like donald trump, kari lake refuses to go away.th the republican party senate campaign arm to discuss a possible run for senate in 2024. later this month, she is headed to iowa in what some have speculated could be a nascent start to a presidential run. in other words, despite failing to win her first and only election, kari lake is keeping her options very much open, maybe even opening some options that most people would not. as ashley parker at the washington post notes today, kari lake is part of a broader trend within the republican party to embrace candidates to lose elections. but it's not just american politicians benefiting from that trend. tonight, the former right-wing brazilian president jair bolsonaro, accused of attending a coup plotting meeting after losing his own election, bolsonaro was headlining event for the pro trump group turning point usa. and a party whose leaders refused to accept the legitimate results of elections, losing has become a badge of honor, a way to channel the grievance and frustration of voters

whoever heard of kari lake in the last election cycle.give them the resources they need to be successful, build up their name i.d. and run a competitive campaign. it requires leadership at the party level and that's incumbent on the republicans running in the nrsc, incumbent on the party in charge at the state level. if they sit this out, if they don't do anything, they cannot be surprised if they repeat the mistakes, and end up with the same results, with democrats expanding their majority. who would have thought a year ago we would be saying that sentence, that would happen in the after math of the 2020 election, that's exactly what they're setting up to happen in 2004. >> isaac arnsdorf, thank you. >>> president biden signs an inscription in kyiv, celebrating solidarity, and honoring the freedom loving people. what does it mean for the ukrainians who have lived through hell for an american president to visit their capital. that's my next conversation on "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. am i

kari lake, donald trump.>> it is a good thing that judges are saying no. it is a bad thing, though, they keep coming back because it erodes the trust in the democratic process. part of what joe and we have been talking about is americans have been awash in lies and we can't do the work of madisonian democracy requires of us. with donald trump tweeting out the special grand jury's reaction is -- we know that these people are constantly trying to angle the way to pursue power and protect themselves but the ongoing affect is the erosion of the foundation of the democratic process so it's dangerous. it is dangerous. >>> coming up, live to munich where andrea munich sat down with the vice president of the united states. a first look at the interview. "morning joe" is back in a moment. active psoriatic arthris after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. stand up to your symptoms with rinvoq. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that tackles pain, stiffness, swelling. for some, rinvoq signifi

kari lake and baking a cake? >> it used to be lost an election, you not cough into the shadows for a bed, you lay it low, maybe take on emeritus her pen leadership status. this is not the case in the republican party anymore. you run on the politics of grievance. that's what's been motivating and fueling a lot of the base. and now that defiance is a defining factor. it doesn't matter if you lose because the grievance then becomes, the system was rigged. so i was going to lose anyway and that's why you still need being around. that's why you see someone like donald trump still as the potentially leading candidate for the gop nomination right now because that's what resonates with the base, that's why you see kari lake who lost her bid for the governorship still left the center of that power right now with the party. and that's why you see people like show bolsonaro who lost his reelection bid for president in brazil, also embraced by the republican party right now. he also refused to concede and brazil also saw a

at the same time, you mentioned kari lake, she's still denying her own election.r candidates who are dominated by the republican party summoned very high profile races ended up losing, someone who are election deniers. they're around to stay. but i think, for the most part, if you're looking at statewide elections, if you're looking at national elections, it's just not a winning issue. because most people have been able to discern the truth, and joe biden is the president of the united states. i know this may come as a shock to you, simone, but the guy sitting in the white house joe biden -- >> who knew. >> won the election. >> who knew, i knew. i think i was there. before i let this esteemed panel go, we have to talk about former president trump's current legal situation. because there's a new new york times opinion piece that says, we should be prepared for a possible trump indictment. and, harry, i will give you the last word on this, we have seen all the audio geishas. we have seen the evidence. the question is, will there be accountability? >> i think there w

kari lake.here's a pattern of rigged elections and all of this is playing out today. >> and they're being led by the hand by a lot of politicians currently in office. >> absolutely. who do things like change the laws in georgia to say you can make an unlimited number of voter challenges, which is exactly what georgia voters have done, motivated by calls like this, motivated by false conspiracy theories about our elections, that it's going to real election workers whose job it is to sort through the mess. >> thank you, guys, sorry the subject is not so wonderful, great, good for democracy. appreciate it, though. >>> coming up, what the creator of dilbert did to get cancelled. first up, though, personal checkups on each and every family in east palestine, ohio. what prompted federal agencies to go door to door. to go door to door e've made travel so expensive, we have this hotel to our...selves..? - how'd you get here? - kayak! they compared hundreds of travel sites to find a great deal on my flig

and kari lake's election lies. and christine karamo's election lies. so it's no surprise, then, that in arizona, there's now a network of activists who believe that u.s. elections are so unreliable that they're trying to convince supervisors in maricopa county and phoenix to throw out all the elections that republicans lost in 2022. yeah. all of them. the minds of people have been so poisoned by republican candidates, yet republican politicians, and, yes, republican news media outlets, and i promise you this, it's not gonna stop anytime soon. joining me now is my sunday night panel. renee graham, opinion columnist and associate editor at the boston globe, and marissa, msnbc columnist. it's great to have both of you with us. rene, i'll start with you. you know, this newly-released court filing on the dominion lawsuit really suggests that fox honed in on these fraud claims for rating boosts, and out of fear that they might lose viewers to more conservative media outlets that were emerging at the time, and even pandering to the more extreme right. your th

we talked about kari lake. she is considering running. are so many significant dynamics here and major players. bernie sanders has not decided whether to run for re-election and neither has mitt romney who told me he believes he can win but hasn't made a decision yet. >> i want to play a little bit >> i make a decision based on have i been able to deliver for the state and basically support the constitution and oath i've taken. i think i have. >> we can get a lot of good things done because of my position on veterans affairs and defense chairman. but it's something we just -- i just think you need to take the time and talk it over. >> the problem for democrats is that really the only democrats who can win in those states are named manchin and tester. and it is not clear what the 2024 cycle is going to be in terms of the overall political environment except it will be a presidential year and they're running on the same ticket with a sitting president, who is still in the 40s right now in terms of approval. >> yes. you have just outlined al

we see people in 2022 as has been noted kari lake, for example, hosting massive rallies talking about how it was stolen from her and we're going to see more of this. and it's undermining the trust of the american people, the trust in government and the trust in elections that the former president is at the center of this and has not yet been held accountable under the law. >> the piece that was so clear by the end of the public hearings was what the committee had evidence of was intent, intent to lie. there's a piece of general milly's transcript that came out where trump has said to him i think it's in the context of iran let the next guy deal with it, we lost, we're leaving. you've got cassidy hutchinson having that incredible call where he said i don't want anyone to remember we lost. you've got these wisconsin guys saying when we come up short just run the play book, just say we actually won. the tragedy politically just happens on the right. the tragedy nationally and for securing our democracy happens to all of us, but they're really treating their voters like dukes and dopes. t

vance and kari lake and paul gosar putting out pictures of themselves with guns, pretending that they 10,000 feet, but the moon was up 60,000 feet in the air. the party of jokers making a bigger joke about it from solves this past week. and let's not forget marjorie taylor greene and particular. the far-right gop congresswoman said the great donald trump would've never allowed china to fly a spy balloon over our country. right. well, he actually did. at least three times, in fact, according to the u.s. department of defense. so, i want to speak now to someone who's been racking up views online by documenting the idiocy of a lot of republicans in realtime. join me now is jason salvage from the comedy duo, the good liars. jason, thanks for coming back on the show. what did you make of all the republican responses to this chinese balloon? what was the most ridiculous when you saw? >> i loved it. it was nonstop comedy, which was big for me. but, my favorite part of balloon weekend, as i'm calling it, was the pictures you just showed up all the republicans tweeting pictures of themselves,

kari lake just lost a lawsuit this week claiming that she's the real arizona governor and not katie hobbs, the person who won the most votes was sworn in and has been doing the job for the last two months. arizona's new secretary of state, adriana fontes, who will join us in a moment, got death threats while running on a platform of stopping threats to his election workers. >> so many around the nation are now fulfilling their duties under the disgraceful and anti-american circumstances involving harassment and threats towards election officials. threats to their lives. this domestic terrorism is anathema to the constitutional order and must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. [applause] honor and integrity will replace conspiracy and fascism. >> they didn't believe a word they were saying. they didn't care who their lives were hurting or about the damage they were doing to our democracy. i want to go back to one of the text you heard from tucker just a moment ago. he texted lower ingram, quote, our viewers are good people and they believe it. one of those people was roseanne

i don't see this becoming a more urgent issue no matter how many times kari lake goes to iowa. it's just not going to come back. i don't know if it's fear of donald trump, which is obviously a very big animating force in the republican party. i don't know if it's just assuming or just like this complete petrification of just sort of bowing before the base, like they need to hear this. we need to energize them. it's sort of a reflexive thing at this point. >> i get the grift part of it. i get that part because there's a lot of money to be made, because p.t. barnum said, there's a sucker born every minute. but the reality is at some point it has a price attached to it, a real cost to the country. why is there this obstinant blinding spot to that? >> i think it's just short term thinking. it's also people are blinding themselves to what happened in the last election. the price to be paid is there. it's tangible. election deniers did really badly in november. and i think right now, it's a path of least resistance. it's what people know what to do, where the muscle memory is when yo

the courts in arizona have slapped down kari lake's 2022 edition of trump's election denial.s cases trump lost. kasie, democratic and republican appointed judges rejecting this hog wash, so anti-democratic, so dangerous. she is not going to win at any level of the arizona courts. sanctions and potential bar discipline are on the horizon for her lawyers. she had a tough time getting lawyers. she said she would even take better call sol at one point. that is the level that she is sinking to. >> norm, i am so sorry to have to cut you off. thank you for this discussion. we have to go live to the white house where national security council official john kirby has joined the white house briefing. let's listen in. >> thanks you all for giving me a chance to come up here and talk on friday. as just mentioned the president is very much looking forward to his trip to warsaw next week ahead of course of the one-year anniversary of russia's brutal and unprovoked invasion of ukraine. after he lands on tuesday morning he will meet with the president to discuss our bilateral cooperation and

then again faced a bunch of questions in 2022, conspiracy theories i should clarify including by kari lakey for you what she just said in the last month. >> we all know there was corruption all across this great country, but nowhere, nowhere in the country was it more blatant than obvious than what happened right here in maricopa county. every day we're getting more and more proof how corrupt our elections in maricopa county are, how terrible -- >> bill, do you think this new information coming out puts those lies to bed, or do you think that your county will continue, unfortunately, to be the target of election conspiracies? >> i wish i could say that this was going to put it to bed, but unfortunately i don't think that it will. as long as there are people who are out there, who are willing to frankly lie about what happened in 2022 and 2020 we're going to have to continue to push back, and we're going to do that. i recently had the opportunity to speak to a focus group of election skeptics, and i talked to all of them. i said if you have questions about how we run elections in maricopa c

you're going to see grounded, well articulated cleaned up crazy people. >> kari lake is waiting for hertory rally. >> keep running, kari. keep running. >> it was already a harder amount for democrats. >> particularly in the senate. so that's where the mitch mcconnell piece comes into place here. he knows how to work that landscape, and he is going to have a greater say in candidate recruitment than i think a lot of people may realize. >> all right. we -- i don't know if that's depressing or simply -- >> it is what it is. >> it's devious. it's devious, as many of mitch mcconnell's tricks are. >>> when we come back, how one of the president's closest advisers sees all this. the political landscape ahead of tonight's speech, and everything that comes after tonight. we have a chance to talk to a member of his team, next. don't go anywhere. nywhere. u lo v. now take away their clean clothes and access to water. take away the roof over their heads, most meals and all snacks. look at what's left. millions of children are struggling to survive due to inequality, the climate crisis, conflict, an

. >> kari lake met with supporters at the got county republican women. she is still challenging the election results in court. this is about 40 minutes. ♪ ♪ kari: iowa, you showed up to date. this is amazing. thank you so much. i am not an expert at headcounts, but i have a feeling we have within 50 today. thank you so much. is everybody here from iowa? are there a few from illinois? if you, thank you. we have an arizonan over there. hello. you know i ran for governor and i did when, actually. today is how hard you can steal the elections is how they are taking elections and that is one of reasons i am here today. i feel every state i go to people tell me, don't stop fighting. we saw what happened in arizona and what happened in 2020. how long can this go on? i wanted to come to iowa because iowa leads when it comes to presidential politics. you see everyone come through every four years and you need -- i know you take that responsibility seriously but you need to start calling out these elections -- officials and asked them where they stand on election i

. >> kari lake, the 2022 republican candidate for arizona governor met with supporters and an event hosted by the scott county iowa women. ms. lake who lost to hobbs says she's still challenging in court. this is about 40 minutes. ♪♪ ♪♪ (applause) ♪♪ [cheers and applause] ♪♪ >> iowa, you showed up today, this is amazing. [cheers and applause] >> thank you so much. i told colten, i want to go pack back home, if we could get 50 people, you could talk to people. i'm not an expert at head counts, but we've got more than 50. is everyone here from iowa? are there any illinoisans? oh we've on arizona there. and you know i ran for governor. i did win, actually. today is how hard can you steal an election is really, how they are taking our elections and that's one of the reasons that i'm here today because i really feel every state i go to, people tell me, kari, don't stop fighting. we saw what happened in arizona. we saw what happened in 2020. how long can this go on? so, i said i want to go to iowa because iowa leads the whole charge when it comes to presidential politics, right? you guys see eve

kari lake met with scott iowa republican women ms.e lost to opponent katety hobbs said she's challenging arizona election results in court in this is about 40 minutes. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [applause] ♪ ♪ >> iowa you showed up today, this is amazing. [applause] thank you so much. i told colt i want to go back home and if we can get 50 to show up that would be great to talk to a few people i'm not an expert at head counts but i think we, got more than 50 today thank you so much. is everybody here from iowa are there any illinois it is so good to be here we have an arizonan over there. hello. yeah it is so funny i was on the campaign trail y'all no i ran for governor, and yeah please -- [cheering] i did win actually. today is how hard can you steal an election is how they are taking our elections and that is one of the reasons that i'm here today. because i really feel every state i go to people tell me kari don't stop fighting we saw what happened in arizona. we saw what happened in 2020 how long can this go on? and so i said i want to go to iowa be

. >>> a top election official is calling for an investigation into republican kari lake after the failed gubernatorial candidate posted voter signatures on her twitter account. >> it is part of her effort to prove that signatures didn't match what they had on file. lake's camp did not respond to cnn's request for comment. >>> video from the deposition of donald trump last year shows the former president refusing to answer question hundreds of times. why he says he had no choice but to remain tight lipped. >>> and plus an up at date in t search for the missing zoo monkeys. there is a break in the case. >>> and formal charges from the "rust" film set. alec baldwin and the armorer could face jail time if convicted. cuh-congestition? better. cough? fever? better. mucinex all in one relieves 9 symptomoms in 1 dos. it's not cold d and flu season. it's always comeback season. hi. i'm wolfgang puck when i started my online store wolfgang puck home i knew there would be a lot of orders to fill and i wanted them to ship out fast that's why i chose shipstation shipstation helps manage orders reduce

an appeals court in arizona today rejected republican kari lake's challenge of her defeat in last year'snor's race. the court ruled like fail to provide evidence that voters were disenfranchised when some vote counting machines malfunctioned on election day. lake vowed to appeal to the arizona supreme court. helical -- electric vehicle giant tesla launch a recall today to repair defects in software that controls the full self-driving mode. the recall impacts over 360 2000 teslas. the faulty code can cause vehicles to run yellow lights and disobey speed limits. and former basall in broadcasting star tim mccarver has died. he was an all-star catcher who won 2 world series titles with the st. louis cardinals in the 1960's. later, he we on to become a hall of fame baseball broadcaster after his playing days ended. tim mccarver was 81 years old. people living with the effects of long covid detail how the disease has changed their lives. as senator fetterman seeks help for depression, we explore the challenge of dealing with mental illness while in the public eye and a new book details the str

we have arizona governor katie hobbs a democrat and a tough race with kari lake you know that was a really battle so we are talking about what is happened now that she is governor and sworn in and having to deal with a border that is overrun with record high numbers and people coming in illegally, she's in the big battle over vouchers because the previous administration had allowed cool vouchers for seven grand which followed the students whatever they wanted to go to school she's trying to get rid of it and there's a huge battle with the legislature and students and parents is that you went to private school why should should we have a chance to go to private school we have a lot to talk about with her. nfl sports guys, the coach you got jimmy, howie, terry, michael, they were a lot of fun so those guys are with us to and doctor myron role what my favorite players to come to florida state he played in the nfl a rhodes scholar now a neurosurgeon were all underachievers compared to what he's got going on. rachel: i'm looking forward to the interview katie hobbs actually went to my catholic

you have gubernatorial candidate kari lake saying she won the election. on this? >> there's all kinds of levels of damages. there's literal damage to dominion and smart tech and others who put together hundreds of contracts across the country with counties and states to provide the machinery and technology and confidence to do the job right. those were all called into question. many contracts lost et cetera. there is physical -- i should say monetary damages. there's physical damages to people. there's damages to the confidence of the people at large in all the officials they have elected to support them all these years. the damage is pervasive. even down to the little mom and pop newsgroups that put out their little blogs and push this stuff over and over, it just keeps right on going. it usually starts at the top and cascades down towards them. >> thank you both very much. i appreciate it. it is pretty sobering to read. >>> new information on john federman's treatment for depression after his stroke last year. we have learned she was not eating or drink

had intraparty warfare between the moderate republicans represented by john mccain and people like kari lakenonmoderate faction wins, and then you have a closely divided state and a lack of political courage among republicans in that state. the fact is governor ducey could have done more to stand up against the crazies. you could have seen the business community do more against the crazies. but the republican party sort of let the crazies be crazy in a way there that just snowballed. and now arizonians are paying the price for that and it's really unfortunate. >> mark elias so we've done three. there's 17. we have 14 to go. we'll see you next week with our next batch. >> i'm ready. >> so are we. we can't wait. >>> when we come back with a week to go before the one-year mark of russia's brutal invasion and war in ukraine a first-hand view how ukrainian's citizens and children are doing right now today and what they so desperately need right now to survive. desperately need right now to survive. if your moderate to severe crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms are stopping you in your

kari lake has shots of the top of the charts, she's a woman.dace owens is adored by the base, she's an african american woman. so it is not about your gender. it is about your behavior. and whether or not to or consistent as a leader. >> okay, go ahead, but on. >> marjorie taylor greene is practically leading the congress. she was a jewish space lasers woman. i mean, i don't think they're the republican far-right is way to say anything. before the left, the democratic president his joe biden. and no one would say he's far-left. by any stretch of the imagination. he's a very center candidate. >> senator biden, president biden is a different person. >> it's hard to see joe biden as a socialist but. but >> that is her biggest issue here. it is not just that she has a base amongst donors. she has a base among the kind of d.c. concert class and among a vision of republicans that is more now the gift of what they have used to call themselves. but donald trump has taken over the republican party. that does not mean that he is automatically the next no

she is not a ron desantis or a kari lake, leading the way on a radicalize republican platform, she issgusting beliefs just to simply get ahead, and if this week is any guide, it likely won't get her anywhere. she will just be a morally bankrupt also ran, whomay get what she deserves, nothing. we will be right back. for severe eosinophilic asthma. nucala is not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your asthma specialist about a nunormal with nucala. dupixent helps you du more with less asthma. and can help you breathe better in as little as 2 weeks. dupixent is an add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that's not for sudden breathing problems. dupixent can cause allergic reactions that can be severe. get help right away if you have rash, c

want to point out vaughn hillyard getting the new information first on the trail is reporting that kari lakeourse, iowa is no longer most likely on the democratic side the first caucus state but that still is important in the republican primary battles. there you go. ali, donna, brendan, you have it all covered. thank you so much. >>> round one. the new republican house majority opening its first investigations into the biden white house today. what it all means coming up next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ♪♪ inner voice (kombucha brewer): if i just stare at these payroll forms... my business' payroll taxes will calculate themselves. right? uhh...nope. intuit quickbooks helps you manage your payroll taxes, cheers! with 100% accurate tax calculations guaranteed. my husband and i have never been more active. cheers! shingles doesn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine u

hand-picked a bunch of ostentatious weirdos like vampire enthusiast herschel walker, pixar villain kari lake1 escapee dr. oz who campaigned -- [ laughter ] campaigned for senate in pennsylvania by wandering down the produce aisle complaining about the price of crudite at a grocery store he called wegener's which does not exist [ laughter ] of course, the weirdest part of that video was always the part that he grabbed salsa for a crudite. who puts salsa in their crudite? he is like a college sophomore putting out hors d'oeuvres for a date "would you like some funyuns with your crudite? [ laughter ] perhaps some franzia i have a january chardonnay. that's a very good month." [ laughter ] so after those candidates lost, republicans spent the next few days lamenting how weird their party had gotten, and pleading for republicans to just be normal again >> the republican party needs to do a really deep introspective look in the mirror right now because this is an absolute disaster for the republican party. >> the gop fielded too many novices who struggled with crafting a message, raising funds, an

like in the campaign of failed arizona candidate kari lake.sts are receiving more and more into our everyday existence, it is crucial that we understand how we arrived at this moment of polarized realities and what needs to happen so that we might return to the same spinning globe. in her new book off the edge, journalist kelly whale offers a definitive and compelling history of the flatter if movement from its origins in the 1800s in an english commune to the spread of that theory in the early 2000s with the rise of facebook and youtube. to the recent disinformation campaign of the 2020 presidential election and the covid-19 pandemic. these conspiracies are more interconnected then you might realize. joining me now is kelly whale. kelly, thank you for joining. as i should note also you are the author of the book off the, edge flat earthers, -- white people will believe anything. also joining us is kyle spencer author of raising them right, and award-winning journalist who focuses on the far-right. it's good to have both of you with us. let me

midterms -- you know, a lot of republican stayed home or did not vote for someone like blake masters or kari lake, because they thought they were a little too far out there. and those of the people who otherwise want to vote for the republican and may listen to someone like chris sununu, may listen to someone like larry hogan. you are absolutely right. the danger in terms of numbers is far greater on the trump side. and trump has used this threat of possibly breaking with the party and going independent a number of times. he used it after january 6th. it was part of his negotiating strategy to get kevin mccarthy to come down to mar-a-lago and meet with him for those few weeks there. a lot of the party was shunning him. and he used it effectively, he leveraged it then. he used it effectively as leverage in 2015. and i fully expect he will do it again in this coming election. >> the trump threat, as we see, cuts across all spectrums of american society and all forms of media, governance and the. like michael scherer, thank you for your time tonight. and great reporting. it's good to see you. >> yea

. >> kari lake, the 2022 republican candidate for arizona governor met with supporters and an event hosted

hobbs was sworn in a month ago, flipping the state from red to blue after a hard-fought race against kari lake. lake embraced claims about the 2020 election so now arizona has a democratic governor, as well as democratic senator in mark kelly and kyrsten sinema. i sat down with governor hobbs this weekend to talk about the xiechl of her state hosting the game and the backlash for doing away with the school voucher program and how observers say the reality of the border crisis says she is doing the very things she criticized republicans for doing not long ago. first bill melugin looks at americans living in border states. >> bill: the sector known for criminals and gotaways, 55,000 single adult men have been caught crossing illegally there since october 1. in recent days tucson sector agents made multiple busts and arrested several convicted sex offenders and pedophiles sneaking across the border. sector chief testified before congress this week. >> most run from and may fight agents to avoid apprehension, many are felons who know they are inadmissible into the united states and many pose serio

of this is tied to the claim that donald trump actually won the 2020 election, which brings me to kari lakel setback for her, her challenge to her election loss was tossed out by an appeals court. you do wonder, is it going to be that every politician who loses is going to go to court, tie up judges and claim that they didn't lose when they clearly have, is there such a thing of a penalty if a judge decides this is a frivolous lawsuit? >> first, can every politician challenge their loss in court, in theory, yes, and we should encourage that because the courts are certainly a better place to do it than say storming a capitol building, so using legal recourse is the best outcome, but when does it case go from, i think i should have won to frivolous. well, there is a standard for that in federal court it's called rule 11 but the bottom line is, what did they know when they filed? did they know that this was hopeless? or more, did they know that it was not grounded in any way in either existing law or an argument for the creation of a new law. if that's the case, that's the frivolous standard.

kari lake. all of the freak patrol is potentially going to run. isn't that what donald trump needs? as many of them to run as possible? >> i think donald trump benefits from a crowded field, absolutely. he has the most intense support. and people who i think if he gets indicted, his support will go up to prove that intensity. but you know, at the heart here is that there really is not a desire for the republican party to be a different party than the direction that trump took it. all the objections to trump are aesthetic objections. he's sort of embarrassing. he says these things. i would rather not have a president of the united states who talks about having sex with his daughter in public. where he took the party, they're fine with that. if you look at ron desantis, i think it's a complete losing battle, these culture wars, because i think they're losing these culture wars. who won the nike versus donald trump war? nike made $9 billion. so i think what's playing out here is really very similar to what happened in '15 and '16. >> i think it is, n

i think kari lake is lying. i think for them, these are just excuses for losing an election.to that? >> well, i say, jimmy, no judge in the united states has looked at the evidence. they've all kicked the can on standing. no one has ever looked at the evidence based on merit -- >> jimmy: isn't that -- >> i keep sounding the alarm until somebody looks at it. we gave it to the facebook fact checker, alan duke. he looked at it, and now he just went away because he knows it was true -- >> jimmy: but the supreme court -- >> i'll give the evidence to you. we'll come back two months later. i'll pay for your cyber guy, if the show can't afford it. [ laughter ] we'll help him check it out. you're getting a big audience tonight, so you could afford it. >> mike -- mike, you see that little girl with the overalls on? that's our cyber guy. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> are. >> looking good, looking good. >> jimmy: how much has this crusade cost you personally, mike? >> over $40 million. and that's counting building your great network you watch all the time, jimmy. >> jimmy: that's right. >

and what i also found interesting is that most election deniers, with the exception i think of kari lakenot put up a fight. they accepted their loss and they moved on. which is to say, i think it is not as likely as i might have thought a couple of years ago, but we still need to be prepared for all eventualities. unfortunately. >> i think that's to your point we always have to have a high stake of vigilance because we cannot fall asleep at the switch. there is still under so much going on. the -- win yesterday really stunned me. i thought maybe we were turning a turner, but we will not subscribe to the naivete. and i appreciate you mary trump joining us this morning to bring your incident analysis. thanks for being. here >> thanks, katie. >> and coming, up officials say the testing shows the water in an area are safe, but residents of east palestine, ohio, say animals are dying as much as 20 miles away from the site of the train derailment. after the break, i will talk with the vice president of the national wildlife federation about the lasting effects of this environmental disaster. n

now you're seeing with former president trump as case study number one but i could point you to kari lakestance, who my colleague just reported is on her way to d.c. right now to appear at the national prayer breakfast to just scheduled vaughn hillyard reported two events in iowa. people who have lost and refused to accept their defeat are now being lionized in the party. it is rare to see people who lose, number one, and who refuse to accept a defeat, number two, being the sorts of people that a traditional political party wants to headline conventions or appear at prayer breakfasts, but that is a dynamic that is going on right now in the republican base. >> it's going to be fascinating because we went from will anybody challenge trump to trump, haley, hogan, pence, desantis, maybe lake, and that's just for starters. ali vitali, ashley parker, thank you both very much. >>> hope hicks, remember her, made her name navigating big personalities and papering over pr disaster for donald trump. now she'll try to do the same for a controversial name in new york sports. knicks and rangers owner,

or people like kari lake, the -- arizona governor, you remember lake right, or maybe you don't recognizer without her weird soft zoom filters. just this week, after state repeals court rejected lake's challenge she vowed to take the fight all the way but as much as we want to pretend these clowns are just out of some traveling circus, modern-day republican party is no laughing matter. behind the party, behind them is a dangerous violent and evolving fascist movement. yeah. let's go back to michigan. back in april of 2020, hundreds of rioters, some who were armed, storm the states capitol building demanding an end to coronavirus stay-at-home orders. later, -- members of a militia group conspire to kidnap the -- states democratic governor direction whiton there. so in many ways, what we saw play out in michigan in 2020 was a dry run for the attack on our nation's capital, less than a year later. because, despite what you may have heard january the 6th did not come out of nowhere, that is the point made in a stunning new piece from former january 6th committee counsel jacob glick. like what

. >>> an appeals court rejected republican kari lake challenged to election loss in 2022 arizona governor'stesting the results claiming illegal ballots were cast and misconduct by election officials. the three-judge panel rejected lake's assertions saying she had not provided any evidence to back up her claim. lake responded on twitter claiming she's going to bring the case all the way to the arizona supreme court. >>> a terminal in new york city's jfk airport remains shut down today after a power outage. the outage began thursday in terminal one which services more than a dozen international airlines. at least 58 flights have been canceled or delayed. with the faa warning the shutdown could last into the weekend. airport officials are asking travelers to check with their airlines before coming to the airport. >>> in turkey 11 days after the devastating earthquakes we're still seeing remarkable rescues. turkish state media says three people were found alive today. that includes this 34-year-old man from the ambulance he spoke with a relative on the phone to see if his parents survived. list

kari lake is an ally of charlie kirk. he does have a mega phone. there are young conservatives he's gotten into the organization. kari lake's campaign was largely build by young staffers. i don't think we're going to see the end of charlie kirk any time soon, because so many of the young people that have become engaged in the party today did it because of the podcast, because of turning point usa, because of charlie kirk. he does have influence. whether it's enough to change an election outcome, that's to be determined down the road. ron desantis has every reason to try and get him as well as trump. >> there's been a lot of losing going on on the trump maga kari lake side. vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. >>> we're going to turn to the death toll from that powerful earthquake in turkey and syria, which continues to rise, now passing 21,000 people. despite the frigid temperatures, emergency crews have made a series of dramatic rescues since monday's disaster. nbc's matt bradley has more. >> reporter: today turkish res

secretary of state, mike pompeo, to congressman paul gosar, a failed arizona gubernatorial candidate, kari lakenator j.d. vance, posted photos of themselves pointing guns at the sky implying that they could shoot down the balloon themselves [ laughter ] my favorite one of these is yale educated, silicon valley venture capitalist, j.d. vance, cosplaying as one of the dudes from "duck dynasty." [ laughter ] no one's buying your shtick, dude look at the freshly purchased bengals hoodie you just know the tag is still on that. you look like a hollywood wannabe auditioning for a remake of "deliverance. [ laughter ] and then, of course, there are a bunch of republicans who claim that the dumb balloon saga would never have happened under donald trump, with some even going so far as to claim that if it did happen, trump would have shot down the balloon immediately. lauren boebert tweeted, "that balloon would never would have made it over u.s. soil if trump was president. and marjorie taylor greene tweeted, "i just spoke with our great 'america first' president, trump. he would have never have allowed ch

she is not a rhonda scent this are kari lake, leading the way on a radicalize republican platform, sheet ahead, and if this week is any guide, it likely won't get her anywhere. she will just be a morally bankrupt also ran, who make it what she deserves, nothing. we will be right back. l be right back. or you could see, everything that could be. go. baker tilly. trelegy for copd. ♪birds flyin' high, you know how i feel.♪ ♪breeze driftin' on by...♪ ♪...you know how i feel.♪ you don't have to take... [coughing] ...copd sitting down. ♪it's a new dawn,...♪ ♪...it's a new day,♪ it's time to make a stand. ♪and i'm feelin' good.♪ start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd... ...medicine has the power to treat copd... ...in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler,... ...trelegy makes breathing easier for a full 24 hours, improves lung function, and helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler... ...for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more th