an expert analyst, including on the topic of the middle east, karin kneisel often refers to the historyict in her open lectures. now it's taking shape. the impression is that many leaders, especially in the european union, believe that everything began on october 7th. yes, the armed forces of hamas, terrorists, as they are also called, from the point of view of the palestinians, fighters for peace, carried out massive bloodshed, but this conflict is very, very old, i am rather inclined to call it a tragedy, for for me, this is much more than a conflict, this is a serious human tragedy, the conflict is different from previous ones, i would say, it has literally degenerated into a struggle for survival between palestine and israel as a whole, we are not just talking about the palestinians, not only about the independence of the palestinian territories, as this appears in various resolutions, everything is much larger. we were in beirut on the same day that hassan shit was speaking, how would you interpret his words, how can you generally describe the role of lebanon at this stage of the i