john: philip rucker, kathie obradovich -- i love saying that -- thank you so much.ill be back again this week. coming up, the dilemma facing establishment candidates in new hampshire. don't forget, if you're watching us in washington, d.c., you can listen to us, too on 99.1 fm. we will be right back. ♪ mark: this week was the second episode of our new show on showtime, "the circus." the show is on every sunday at 8:00. it was called the prisoner's dilemma about the challenge facing the establishment republicans in new hampshire. this features chris christie, marco rubio, john kasich and jeb bush. >> a granite state hello to all of you. what have you learned that you did not know before? >> why are you not going at trump? chris christie: i'm getting political advice from donny deutsch. the only thing i would do with donny deutsch is a murder suicide pact. john: does that feel risky? is it do or die? chris christie: i think the whole thing is risky. rubio seems to put no eggs in any basket. what decision you make, the whole enterprise is inherently risky. you have to

when we come back, philip rucker and kathie obradovich.ohn: joining us now are phil rucker, correspondent for "the washington post," and cap you brad lidge of -- kathie obradovich of "the des moines register." want to talk about the democratic race, leading to phil's at a store, but give us a sense of where things stand between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. kathie: i don't think it could possibly be any closer. apartre couple points and people are still making up their minds. everything is going to matter. do endorsements matter? usually they don't, but this town hall tonight, no one can afford to make a step out of line. john: you don't dispute the notion, though, that there is a large and easy as some gap between the sanders -- enthusiasm gap between the sanders forces and clinton forces? which may not be decisive, but there is a gap. weatherif we have bad and some people think, oh, well, i don't need to go -- but in a close race everybody gets enthusiastic and everybody thinks that their vote matters. john: phil, you have a piece

recently along with kathie obradovich of the register , i had the chance to sit down with sanders and get his take on the race and learn why he is all right, senator, we are two weeks away and people who like you, really like you. how do you make sure they get out for you? mr. sanders: we have put together a really good round game. we have great staff and many thousands of volunteers. as we speak, they are knocking on doors and making telephone calls. what we are finding is the people of iowa are responding to our message that there is something wrong with this country. almost all wealth is going to the top 1%. we've got a message and i think we stand a chance to do very well. steve: you are ahead in new hampshire. is it important to win in iowa? mr. sanders: we want to win in every state. remember, when we started this campaign, nine months ago, i did not know who we were, let alone what i stood for. we are running against a formidable opponent whose name is universal. we have come a long way. we have the momentum and i think we are going to win. kathie: hillary clinton has a huge or

coming up on kcci 8 news close up, i'll be joined by kathie obradovich of the des moines register to find out what sanders thinks he needs to earn a victory here in iowa. it all starts at 10:30 right after "face the nation" here on kcci. alyx: coming up, sean speaks. actor sean penn is speaking out about his meeting with "el chapo" on tonight's "60 minutes." after the break. there are two democratic visions for regulating wall street. one says it's okay to take millions from big banks and then tell them what to do. my plan -- break up the big banks, close the tax loopholes, and make them pay their fair share. then we can expand health care to all, and provide universal college education. will they like me? no. will they begin to play by the rules if i'm president? you better believe it. >> this is iowa's news leader. this is kcci 8 news this morning weekend. with alyx sacks and meteorologist metinka slater. alyx: welcome back. actor sean penn is breaking his silence about his trip to mexico to meet notorious drug lord joaquin "el chapo" guzman. in an interview for this sunday's "60 m

todd: senator sanders sat down steve karlin and the des moines register's kathie obradovich for kcci close up this week. if you missed it you can find , the entire segment on our website, kcci.com. right now, american prisoners released in iran are on their way home. wendy gillette has family reaction, new tonight. wendy a swiss air force plane : carrying three americans who had been imprisoned in iran landed safely in geneva sunday. this picture, posted on a u.s. presidential envoy's twitter account, is the first of "washington post" reporter jason rezaian as a free man. he and fellow former prisoners amir hekmati and saeed abedini hospital in germany where they're being evaluated. president obama held a news conference at the white house sunday morning. pres. obama: today, we're united in welcoming home sons and husbands and brothers who, in lonely prison cells, have endured an absolute nightmare. wendy the americans, along with : one other man, nosratollah khosravi roodsari, who apparently chose to stay in iran were part of a swap for 7 , iranians held or charged in the u.s.. two

. >> "des moines register" columnist kathy obradovich thank you for your time and have a good sunday. >>> back with the idea of anger speaking of the election to our panel, who many are going to the primary season feeling a little bit of that, a new nbc news survey monkey online poll out this hour is featured in the february edition of ""esquire" magazine. you can see fire and rage. is the overall anger of the electorate and the numbers here, this is interesting, overall when the question was asked do you feel more angry about events in the news more often today than you did a year ago, and the answer to that was 49%. so pretty much even. however when you break it down by party and we look at republicans versus democrats, republicans 61% feel more angry about the events that are happening today than they did a year ago. democrats 42%. and what might be asked then is, and you probably saw the headline, does donald trump's voters have enoughager to get out there and vote for him? that's the question, if he is tapping into that idea of the electorate, at the end of the day, will they com

joining me now is political columnist kathy obradovich.or joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> i know you don't participate in the endorsement process, but you can talk about the influence of your paper. i want to talk about the relationship between your paper and donald trump and even yourself after a pretty highly reported awkward moment where donald trump wanted you to be removed from a rally. >> yeah. so donald trump got upset with "the des moines register" endorsement -- or not an endorsement, but an anti-endorsement from the editorial board back in july after donald trump's much publicized spat about john mccain and talking about political -- or prisoners of war. and "the register" editorial board said at that point that he should drop out of the race. well, the donald trump campaign then said that "the des moines register" reporters should drop out of his campaign events. and he did not -- his campaign didn't issue credentials for us to cover those. he wasn't actually kicking us out, and we've been covering those events as mem

as well as political columnist for "the des moines register" kathy obradovich.sounds like hillary clinton made news last night. did she change her position at this forum on immigration somehow? >> well, i think that she tried to get a little bit more distance between herself and the obama administration. who has been criticized for the deportation. she was asked are you going to be the next deporter in chief? she worked to, for example, condemn mass raids from isis. she said she doesn't appreciate or approve of whisking people away in the middle fl the nature and nobody knows what happens to them. she refused to go where martin o'malley went, to pledge not to deport children. this will be something has has to deal with on a case-by-case basis. >> i mean, hillary clinton, brianna, is obviously treading this line between the administration, what she supports about they've done for the past seven years, what she doesn't as well as bernie sanders, how far to the left she's moved. you've been talking to the hillary clinton campaign for months now. are they surprised

. >> with me now, kathy obradovich from "the des moines register" and david chalian, great cnn politicalw year. >> happy new year. >> david to you first. everyone and their mother is in iowa right now, less than a month before february 1 and the caucuses and i love something you said earlier, you know, if you're trying to predict exactly which way this race is going to go, to quote you, you're lying. >> true. i think we entered this sort of home stretch these final four weeks this sprint to the iowa caucuses less certain about sort of how the nomination process is going to unfold than we have in cycles past. chris christie inserted himself into the news cycle because he understood that with bill clinton in new hampshire making his first solo trip for hillary clinton that all -- >> we'd be talking about it. >> all the television stations would cover that and chris christie found a way by commenting that to make sure he was part of the story today as well. >> kathy, ted cruz is in your state for a solid week, certainly rising in the polls reportedly just hired huckabee's former person, we'

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