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katko have done. and indeed, i think this is in some ways the best of days, and some ways the worst of days. because we have seen today two republican leaders turn what ought to be a nonpolitical issue , an issue with reference to a unique event, not just a demonstration that's occurred in -- i grew up in the 1960's. whether it was civil right, vietnam, a lot of demonstrations. but the capitol of the united states was not attacked. it was not invaded. it was not breached. the work of the congress of the united states was not stopped. because people were trying to get through the door. which some members trying to stop them who then said these are just tourists. sad because what the majority -- what the minority leader in the senate and the minority leader in the house said, exactly what mr. katko pointed out. they wanted a commission that was even, as 9/11 commission was even, so that both sides would have an equal voice. and so what was the resolution that mr. thompson and mr. katko attained? equal d
katko have done. and indeed, i think this is in some ways the best of days, and some ways the worst of days. because we have seen today two republican leaders turn what ought to be a nonpolitical issue , an issue with reference to a unique event, not just a demonstration that's occurred in -- i grew up in the 1960's. whether it was civil right, vietnam, a lot of demonstrations. but the capitol of the united states was not attacked. it was not invaded. it was not breached. the work of the...
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katko: mr. speaker, i yield such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. katko: mr. speaker, this year we'll observe the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on september 11, 2001. it will serve as a somber reminder of the fragility of our security. the bravery of our law enforcement, first responders and the resilience of our democracy. after the attacks on 9/11, congress recognized the importance of establishing a bipartisan commission to investigate these brazen acts of terrorism. this body recognized the need to find the truth and help all of us understand how these heinous acts that not only forever changed our country but also the entire world could have been carried out. the highly respected 9/11 commission identified numerous challenges that needed to be addressed. which ultimately led to many concrete recommendations that were later enacted into law. these critical reforms vastly improved our information sharing , intelligence collection, ve
katko: mr. speaker, i yield such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. katko: mr. speaker, this year we'll observe the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on september 11, 2001. it will serve as a somber reminder of the fragility of our security. the bravery of our law enforcement, first responders and the resilience of our democracy. after the attacks on 9/11, congress recognized the importance of establishing a bipartisan commission to...
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katko: mr. speaker, i yield such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. katko: mr. speaker, this year we'll observe the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on september 11, 2001. it will serve as a somber reminder of the fragility of our security. the bravery of our law enforcement, first responders and the resilience of our democracy. after the attacks on 9/11, congress recognized the importance of establishing a bipartisan commission to investigate these brazen acts of terrorism. this body recognized the need to find the truth and help all of us understand how these heinous acts that not only forever changed our country but also the entire world could have been carried out. the highly respected 9/11 commission identified numerous challenges that needed to be addressed. which ultimately led to many concrete recommendations that were later enacted into law. these critical reforms vastly improved our information sharing , intelligence collection, ve
katko: mr. speaker, i yield such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. katko: mr. speaker, this year we'll observe the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on september 11, 2001. it will serve as a somber reminder of the fragility of our security. the bravery of our law enforcement, first responders and the resilience of our democracy. after the attacks on 9/11, congress recognized the importance of establishing a bipartisan commission to...
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that's i think where congressman katko is trying to end up here. >> well, congressman katko answers tohere republicans and democrats have the same number of appointees to the commission. they both have to sign off on subpoenas. what do you know how congressman katko may find himself in now, where mccarthy has slice whipping up votes against the deal. >> well, not to contradict you there, nicolle, but congressman katko answers to the american people, particularly the voters in his district. >> good correction. thank you. >> you know, not trying to be pedantic here, but i mentioned this the other day on twitter. i have known john katko for quite some time. he was part of the homeland security committee that had oversight at my agency at dhs. he was a great partner. we got a lot done in consequence. here's what i know. the form is a former organized crime prosecutor, a federal prosecutor. if you don't think he's seen some things and been attempted to be bullied by pretty scary people, you have another thing coming. he's not going to be intimidated by some of the members of the rep caucus.
that's i think where congressman katko is trying to end up here. >> well, congressman katko answers tohere republicans and democrats have the same number of appointees to the commission. they both have to sign off on subpoenas. what do you know how congressman katko may find himself in now, where mccarthy has slice whipping up votes against the deal. >> well, not to contradict you there, nicolle, but congressman katko answers to the american people, particularly the voters in his...
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congressman katko did that, kevin mccarthy told congressman katko exactly what the republicans wantedt commission and the democrats gave congressman katko and kevin mccarthy every single thing they asked for, everything. and when kevin mccarthy got everything, he asked for, he publicly turned against the deal that he made through congressman katko. tonight's vote came on the day the fbi arrested six additional members of the trump mob who attacked the capital bringing the total to more than 425 arrests. and marking one of the busiest days in the investigation, today the fbi also released two new videos of capital rioters, during the insurrection, and is now seeking the public's help to identify them. in the first video, an unidentified member of the trump mob is shown attempting to rip off and officers gas mask, then picking up a tactical baton and hitting the officers with that. in the second video another member of the trump mob is seen punching officers while wearing gloves with metal knuckles. during our discussion now is jason crow of colorado he's a member of the house intellige
congressman katko did that, kevin mccarthy told congressman katko exactly what the republicans wantedt commission and the democrats gave congressman katko and kevin mccarthy every single thing they asked for, everything. and when kevin mccarthy got everything, he asked for, he publicly turned against the deal that he made through congressman katko. tonight's vote came on the day the fbi arrested six additional members of the trump mob who attacked the capital bringing the total to more than 425...
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katko and mr. nadler, and so many others for their leadership in passing this bill and thanks to all the co-sponsors. again, as a mother of five, i'm especially proud to support the bill. i want to salute all the mothers and women who have spoken out while risking professional retaliation to prevent pregnancy discrimination in the workplace. this is what this means. it means that too often when a pregnant worker asks for a temporary job accommodation, she will be fired or pushed into unpaid leave, deprived of her paycheck and insurance when she needs it the most. this is particularly part in mostly taxing jobs, dominated by men, and that's why we must pass the pregnant workers fairness act, putting in place a clear explicitly pregnancy framework, similar to the standards put in place for workers with disabilities, which i was proud to be part of -- mr. hoyer has been a major leader in that regard. this legislation, mr. speaker, is also a matter of justice. as nearly 300 groups, from the aclu to zer
katko and mr. nadler, and so many others for their leadership in passing this bill and thanks to all the co-sponsors. again, as a mother of five, i'm especially proud to support the bill. i want to salute all the mothers and women who have spoken out while risking professional retaliation to prevent pregnancy discrimination in the workplace. this is what this means. it means that too often when a pregnant worker asks for a temporary job accommodation, she will be fired or pushed into unpaid...
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kevin mccarthy sent congressman katko to advocate for his side.t the details with his democratic counterpart on the homeland security committee congressman bennie thompson of mississippi. when they came to an agreement, kevin mccarthy knifed john katko in the back. he said he would not support the bill and urged his caucus to do the same. congressman katko was left alone to defense himself and the bill from the false attacks coming from within his own party. >> another charge i heard was that the commission could be controlled by partisan staff hired unilaterally by the commission chair. that's not true. the commission creates the rules as a team. then they hire as a team. lastly, there's been some concern or arguments made about the criminal investigation. make no mistake, this commission has nothing to do with the criminal investigations. this commission, by law, cannot interfere with criminal investigations. >> today, kevin mccarthy took the backstabbing further, calling the deal that congressman katko negotiated for him, the democrats' commiss
kevin mccarthy sent congressman katko to advocate for his side.t the details with his democratic counterpart on the homeland security committee congressman bennie thompson of mississippi. when they came to an agreement, kevin mccarthy knifed john katko in the back. he said he would not support the bill and urged his caucus to do the same. congressman katko was left alone to defense himself and the bill from the false attacks coming from within his own party. >> another charge i heard was...
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when they finally came to an agreement, kevin mccarthy knifed john katko in the back.t support the bill and urged his caucus to do the same. congressman katko was left alone to defend himself, and the bill from the false attacks coming from within his own party. >> another charge i heard that the commission could be controlled by partisan staff hired unilaterally by the commission staff. that is not true. the commission creates the rules as a team. then they hire as a team. lastly, there has been some concerns, arguments made about the criminal investigations. make no mistake about it, this commission has nothing to do with a criminal investigation. this commission, by law, cannot in fear, interfere, with criminal investigations. >> today kevin mccarthy took the backstabbing even further calling the deal that congressman katko negotiated, for him, remember, the democrats commission. >> this pelosi commission that we tried to work on for quite some time, remember, i add pelosi for one on january 14th she spent four months playing politics with it. i think a pelosi commi
when they finally came to an agreement, kevin mccarthy knifed john katko in the back.t support the bill and urged his caucus to do the same. congressman katko was left alone to defend himself, and the bill from the false attacks coming from within his own party. >> another charge i heard that the commission could be controlled by partisan staff hired unilaterally by the commission staff. that is not true. the commission creates the rules as a team. then they hire as a team. lastly, there...
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katko says yes. it's all in consultation together.ublican leadership is saying, that's not a factor. so some of these may be addressable questions either by real facts, rather than partisan spin, or by adjusting the bill accordingly. this is where you'll see, can they get to ten? if they don't, the reason that matters is, will this be the first filibuster of this era? will republicans try to filibuster a bipartisan investigation into january 6th? that's a real mark. >> yes, if you are holding out hope for rick scott or chuck grassley here -- >> i wouldn't hold your breath. >> you haven't been listening to what they are saying. talk to me about greg pence, a congressman from indiana, the brother of the former vice president. the one that they wanted to hang during the insurrection. >> yeah. this is kind of everything you need to know about the state of play right now. his brother was -- had an angry mob shouting to hang him and he said, you know, let's vote against this independent bipartisan commission. he said nancy pelosi is acting
katko says yes. it's all in consultation together.ublican leadership is saying, that's not a factor. so some of these may be addressable questions either by real facts, rather than partisan spin, or by adjusting the bill accordingly. this is where you'll see, can they get to ten? if they don't, the reason that matters is, will this be the first filibuster of this era? will republicans try to filibuster a bipartisan investigation into january 6th? that's a real mark. >> yes, if you are...
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representative katko is sne who voted to impeach the former president on the second impeachment, but the top republican on the house homeland security committee. so when kevin mccarthy in his statement is saying the congress is doing enough investigation, the homeland security committee is one of those committees that is investigating what happened january 6th, the top republican on that committee also thinks the january 6th commission is also necessary. so as for leader mccarthy, this has always been about the former president. it was how he booted liz cheney from her leadership position, and it's likely coming into play right now. this will draw attention to the former president until the commission gets up and running. mccarthy has often said the way republicans win is through a big tent. but by not backing a member of his congress that agrees with the democrats, he's further dividing the republican conference into those who are giving their utmost loyalty to the former president and those who aren't, kasie. >> can we talk a little bit more about mitch mcconnell. we know he's not
representative katko is sne who voted to impeach the former president on the second impeachment, but the top republican on the house homeland security committee. so when kevin mccarthy in his statement is saying the congress is doing enough investigation, the homeland security committee is one of those committees that is investigating what happened january 6th, the top republican on that committee also thinks the january 6th commission is also necessary. so as for leader mccarthy, this has...
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they gave him a whole list of things that katko was supposed to secure and katko was able to do it andtill he -- there's no commission, i think, if they gave him 100% of what he wanted, he still wouldn't be able to support it and still maintain the support of trump. again, going back to what jackie said, he wants to be speaker. he needs trump to do it. >> that sounds like a bad-faith negotiation to me. i may be alone, but give him a list. go negotiate it and say, ah, forget about it. >> jackie? >> no, i was just going to add to rachael's good point about mccarthy potentially having testify. the only reason we know that trump spoke to mccarthy that day is because of congresswoman jaime herrera beutler and her account of what mccarthy told her. mccarthy has not been forthcoming. we know it through other people. and i don't think he really wants the opportunity at this point to tell his side of the story. >> thank you, ladies. rachael bade and jackie kucinich. >>> still to come, a district attorney in north carolina says the police killing of andrew brown jr. was justified. now andrew bro
they gave him a whole list of things that katko was supposed to secure and katko was able to do it andtill he -- there's no commission, i think, if they gave him 100% of what he wanted, he still wouldn't be able to support it and still maintain the support of trump. again, going back to what jackie said, he wants to be speaker. he needs trump to do it. >> that sounds like a bad-faith negotiation to me. i may be alone, but give him a list. go negotiate it and say, ah, forget about it....
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katko will hang tough. i hope some of his friends will stay with him. finally, if they do not do the special commission -- it's going to pass the house. then we'll have a big debate in the senate. then what will happen is a select committee will be formed in the house. this will not go away. wolf, what happened on january 6th has left an indelible imprint on my mind and it has left the imprint on millions and millions of americans' minds. for republicans to try to sweep this under the rug, it's a simple commission to investigate and get to the bottom. i'll tell ya, woflf, there's no words to describe about how i feel about this other than i'm saddened, disappointed, i'm angry. >> a bunch of republicans totally agree with you. they're so angry at the leadership of the republican party, the leadership of the house and senate. david, a lot of the concerns that the republican leadership in the house and senate have, apparently, are related to the mid-term elections coming up next year. they fear a commission like this could drag on and on and go into 2022.
katko will hang tough. i hope some of his friends will stay with him. finally, if they do not do the special commission -- it's going to pass the house. then we'll have a big debate in the senate. then what will happen is a select committee will be formed in the house. this will not go away. wolf, what happened on january 6th has left an indelible imprint on my mind and it has left the imprint on millions and millions of americans' minds. for republicans to try to sweep this under the rug, it's...
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john katko a republican of new york is the guy who let those negotiations for his party. katko the republican hammered out all the details with his democratic counterpart, bernie thompson of mississippi and congressman katko did all of this at the -- with kevin mccarthy, who then just turn drawn into the whole republican caucus to vote against the commission. here is congressman katko urging his colleagues to vote for it. >> we must find answers to the many questions surrounding that day. what information was known leading up to january 6th? why wasn't that information shared with the proper entities? why were capitol police officers left so unprepared? who failed to provide them with support? why did it take so long for reinforcements to come to their aid? how can we improve the decision-making and bureaucracy that is clearly hampering the security of the capitol complex? how can we assure that the capital members of congress and our staff are secure from the tax? and, how do ensure that this is a safer place for members of the capitol police force who risked their lives
john katko a republican of new york is the guy who let those negotiations for his party. katko the republican hammered out all the details with his democratic counterpart, bernie thompson of mississippi and congressman katko did all of this at the -- with kevin mccarthy, who then just turn drawn into the whole republican caucus to vote against the commission. here is congressman katko urging his colleagues to vote for it. >> we must find answers to the many questions surrounding that day....
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mccarthy is now trying to get republicans to stand with him against katko, and katko's proposal appears to have somewhere between 20 to 50 -- 30 to 40 is what we had in our "punch bowl" midday edition that just came out. it is a stunning rebuke of mccarthy, but as josh can talk a little more about it because he's a trumpologist of this, too, this is an attempt by mccarthy to make sure trump is happy and is not in the crosshair. they don't want to be talking about january 6th. they don't want to be talking about donald trump in a negative light. because as we all know, donald trump doesn't like to be talked about in a negative light, they want to focus on democrats. keep in mind here, two weeks, three weeks in a row now, republicans have been engaged in this really nasty inter-party food fight. last week it was liz cheney, this week it's the commission. >> so, josh, jake just set up the next question to you. how much of a factor here is the hidden hand of donald trump and the tanking of this january 6 commission from these republican leaders? >> i think it's a hugely important factor her
mccarthy is now trying to get republicans to stand with him against katko, and katko's proposal appears to have somewhere between 20 to 50 -- 30 to 40 is what we had in our "punch bowl" midday edition that just came out. it is a stunning rebuke of mccarthy, but as josh can talk a little more about it because he's a trumpologist of this, too, this is an attempt by mccarthy to make sure trump is happy and is not in the crosshair. they don't want to be talking about january 6th. they...
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he's got katko negotiating. the next day he says i'm not going to -- i'm not going to be for it, but i'm not going whip it. i'm not going to make you vote one way. then he changes his mind. and then he puts mitch mcconnell in a tight spot in the senate where now mcconnell has to figure out how he can play his senate republicans so they don't get caught, vulnerable ones in states where house guys vote against the commission and are with donald trump and a senator might be for it and then donald trump goes after that senator. so he's -- they're not thrilled with him. >> and jamie, what are you hearing from people you talked to, your source about how other house republicans feel about all this? obviously, mccarthy's hypocrisy is on full display. he is hardly alone, though. >> right. i'm hearing that more and more members of the republican conference are, as gloria just said, not happy with kevin mccarthy. he is alienating the very people who he needs if they take back the house in 2022 to vote for him. and i'm hear
he's got katko negotiating. the next day he says i'm not going to -- i'm not going to be for it, but i'm not going whip it. i'm not going to make you vote one way. then he changes his mind. and then he puts mitch mcconnell in a tight spot in the senate where now mcconnell has to figure out how he can play his senate republicans so they don't get caught, vulnerable ones in states where house guys vote against the commission and are with donald trump and a senator might be for it and then donald...
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katko. back to 2007, i was proud to be the lead sponsor of legislation to implement the unfulfilled recommendations of the 9/11 commission. i can say with certainty at that time i could never have imagined that i would be standing here today almost 15 years later advocating for the establishment of a 9/11-style commission to investigate a violent domestic attack on the united states capitol. on january 6, the world watched americans storm the capitol and engage in violence to try to intimidate and prevent congress from carrying out its constitutional duty to certify the presidential election. a solemn process central to the peaceful transfer of power in our democracy. like the 9/11 terrorist attack, the events of january 6 have cast a long shadow on our country. like the 9/11 terrorist attack, -- attacks, it's raised fundamental questions about information sharing, coordination, preparedness and response at all levels of government. when the defenses around the citadel of our democracy faile
katko. back to 2007, i was proud to be the lead sponsor of legislation to implement the unfulfilled recommendations of the 9/11 commission. i can say with certainty at that time i could never have imagined that i would be standing here today almost 15 years later advocating for the establishment of a 9/11-style commission to investigate a violent domestic attack on the united states capitol. on january 6, the world watched americans storm the capitol and engage in violence to try to intimidate...
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katko and mr. nadler, and so many others for their leadership in passing this bill and thanks to all the co-sponsors. again, as a mother of five, i'm especially proud to support the bill. i want to salute all the mothers and women who have spoken out while risking professional retaliation to prevent pregnancy discrimination in the workplace. this is what this means. it means that too often when a pregnant worker asks for a temporary job accommodation, she will be fired or pushed into unpaid leave, deprived of her paycheck and insurance when she needs it the most. this is particularly part in mostly taxing jobs, dominated by men, and that's why we must pass the pregnant workers fairness act, putting in place a clear explicitly pregnancy framework, similar to the standards put in place for workers with disabilities, which i was proud to be part of -- mr. hoyer has been a major leader in that regard. this legislation, mr. speaker, is also a matter of justice. as nearly 300 groups, from the aclu to zer
katko and mr. nadler, and so many others for their leadership in passing this bill and thanks to all the co-sponsors. again, as a mother of five, i'm especially proud to support the bill. i want to salute all the mothers and women who have spoken out while risking professional retaliation to prevent pregnancy discrimination in the workplace. this is what this means. it means that too often when a pregnant worker asks for a temporary job accommodation, she will be fired or pushed into unpaid...
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this is a secret ballot vote so, why would katko do that? why take a position in a controversial matter when no one is going to be looking over your shoulder when you vote? the answer is self-preservation. donald trump is good for business if the business is the republican party. some might argue the opposite because the gop lost the house, the senate and the white house under his watch, but it's easy to forget that the party did do well in 2020. they gained seats in this house, held the senate to a draw, won more state legislators and picked up another gubernatorial mansion. i don't think it's a priority for these republicans to send trump back to the white house. they just don't want him to send them packing. let's go to the front lines now of this gaetz-green side show. cnn correspondent donie o'sullivan joins us live from the villages. donie, neither represents this particular area. they seem have been received well. >> yeah, michael. as you said, it's good for business. these are two controversial members of congress who otherwise might
this is a secret ballot vote so, why would katko do that? why take a position in a controversial matter when no one is going to be looking over your shoulder when you vote? the answer is self-preservation. donald trump is good for business if the business is the republican party. some might argue the opposite because the gop lost the house, the senate and the white house under his watch, but it's easy to forget that the party did do well in 2020. they gained seats in this house, held the senate...
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a week ago you talked to congressman katko and he laughed it off when you said this could happen. >> he was not happy with me and it was not a friendly encounter. >> well, that's happened. >> the other thing is they actually, katko and the top republican in the commity have introduced this bill. the republicans voted for a bill largely like this months ago. so now they've changed their position entirely on it, and this was the issue all along. they fear this is pelosi just trying to, you know, to keep trump as a millstone, trump in january 6th this is what they're concerned about. they can't move beyond this trump or january 6th. they clearly can't move beyond trump and trying desperately to move beyond january 6th and this doesn't help them. >> garrett, where is mitch mcconnell on this? >> he gave an interesting response with reporters, basically a wait and see and they're not the same as mccarthy's concerns and they want to make sure that the staff appoint side truly bipartisan, for example and wants to make sure they don't overrun the deadline here. it speaks to what john was sayi
a week ago you talked to congressman katko and he laughed it off when you said this could happen. >> he was not happy with me and it was not a friendly encounter. >> well, that's happened. >> the other thing is they actually, katko and the top republican in the commity have introduced this bill. the republicans voted for a bill largely like this months ago. so now they've changed their position entirely on it, and this was the issue all along. they fear this is pelosi just...
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katko have come to an agreement, the rules committee may come to vote this week. it still has to be passed by the senate. there could be changes in the senate or for instance, the date might move later to give us commission time to get staffed up thoroughly and get the members in place and get it working. there's a lot of work to do yet, so the american people have to step forward and show support for this. wanda talked about the people's house and listening to common sense. i think that is something that sack and i agree with -- zack and i agree with fully. they have to listen to the american people there. this independent commission, we went out and had 19 public hearings across the country to listen to the average american person. what did they think about 9/11? what did they think happened? what did local law enforcement have to say? at the pentagon? in new york city? that sense i comes from the american people has to be reflected in his commission -- in this commission and its findings and the scope of how we fix things and capitol hill. host: i want to come
katko have come to an agreement, the rules committee may come to vote this week. it still has to be passed by the senate. there could be changes in the senate or for instance, the date might move later to give us commission time to get staffed up thoroughly and get the members in place and get it working. there's a lot of work to do yet, so the american people have to step forward and show support for this. wanda talked about the people's house and listening to common sense. i think that is...
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it's incredible. >> when we talk about john katko, i think the four months is really important. to the politics of this thing looked different for months ago. >> yeah. >> then they do now. there is this phenomenon we see with trump over and over again, where occasionally, the veil drops, the order a bit of all becomes apparent. that's the theme of the entire presidency, against this hollywood tape, and then the ultimate example of that was january 6th, when you saw mitch mcconnell really reacting in horror. you thought, this might be the moment where they are going to try to purchase man from the party to go in a different direction. if only for their own self interest. he just lost the election, and there's other people willing to take his place. the more time goes on, the more he's able to sort of grab the people within his ideological movement in this impenetrable alternative reality. the more people who want to -- have to buy into. it >> can't cause a different place. he's the one who nominated the stefanik for leadership all he's trying to pull off this bipartisan compromis
it's incredible. >> when we talk about john katko, i think the four months is really important. to the politics of this thing looked different for months ago. >> yeah. >> then they do now. there is this phenomenon we see with trump over and over again, where occasionally, the veil drops, the order a bit of all becomes apparent. that's the theme of the entire presidency, against this hollywood tape, and then the ultimate example of that was january 6th, when you saw mitch...
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they sent representative katko there. they wanted equal representation, be able to pick the representation on the panel. like you said, the subpoena power share, they got that. they didn't want to go into 2022, and the bill says 2021. everything they got, they want. another loyalty test to donald trump played out and 35 republicans said no, they will not play political games with what happened january 6th. everyone has a vested interest in figuring it out because there are all of these questions we may never know, especially if there's not a committee like this, kind of 9/11-style commission, because they have so much more leeway to get into things that some of the select committee may not get into, even some of the committee chairs may not be able to find. >> can you explain that a little more for us? mitch mcconnell, for the folks at home, mitch mcconnell is saying we're already investigating, this is redundant. someone watching is, maybe we don't need another investigation. explain why this one is different and necessa
they sent representative katko there. they wanted equal representation, be able to pick the representation on the panel. like you said, the subpoena power share, they got that. they didn't want to go into 2022, and the bill says 2021. everything they got, they want. another loyalty test to donald trump played out and 35 republicans said no, they will not play political games with what happened january 6th. everyone has a vested interest in figuring it out because there are all of these...
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a commission that -- the deal was negotiated by john katko using terms dictated to him by kevin mccarthynd steve scalise say they don't want their members, republicans to vote for it. what do you think is driving kevin mccarthy? >> speaker pelosi folded on a number of the issues. she wanted democrats to have more members on this commission than republicans and ultimately chairman of homeland security, benny thompson and john katko negotiated a deal where it's 50/50 like previous commissions of its type. it's interesting that mccarthy is not taking the "w." he's not taking the win here. and, look, i don't know what's motivating kevin mccarthy but just looking at it, just as an historical matter, kevin mccarthy and steve scalise and the new conference chair, elise stefanik, all three of them spread the big lie about the election. all three of them voted to disenfranchise voters after the insurrection. all three of them signed on to the deranged texas attorney general lawsuit that would have thrown out four states' electoral votes. so, i mean, they are one way or another, complicit in the b
a commission that -- the deal was negotiated by john katko using terms dictated to him by kevin mccarthynd steve scalise say they don't want their members, republicans to vote for it. what do you think is driving kevin mccarthy? >> speaker pelosi folded on a number of the issues. she wanted democrats to have more members on this commission than republicans and ultimately chairman of homeland security, benny thompson and john katko negotiated a deal where it's 50/50 like previous...
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it's incredible. >> when you talk about john katko, i think the four months is really important. the politics of this thing looked pretty different four months ago than they do now. there is this phenomenona we see with trump over and over again where occasionally the veil drops, the horror of it is over and over. it was a theme of his entire presidency, the theme of the "access hollywood" tape, and january 6 is when you saw mitch mcconnell really act in horror, and you thought this might be the moment that they're going to try to purge this man from the party and go their own direction. it's only for their own self-interest, right, because they just lost the election and there are other people with ambitions to take his place. but it just doesn't let up. the more time that goes by, the more he's able to sort of wrap, at least, the people within his idealogical movement in this impenetrable reality, and the people who want to be in that movement have to buy into it. >> katko was the one who nominated elise stefanik while he's trying to pull off this bipartisan compromise. michell
it's incredible. >> when you talk about john katko, i think the four months is really important. the politics of this thing looked pretty different four months ago than they do now. there is this phenomenona we see with trump over and over again where occasionally the veil drops, the horror of it is over and over. it was a theme of his entire presidency, the theme of the "access hollywood" tape, and january 6 is when you saw mitch mcconnell really act in horror, and you thought...
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on friday you had a deal announced by john katko and benny thompson saying they had struck a deal tos january 6th commission. and katko has been telling his colleagues there is some bwiggl room about what's going to be investigated. the emphasis will be on january 6th but there were some opportunities potntially to explore other areas outside of january 6th and leading up to january 6th. but today you have the top republican saying he actually doesn't support that deal. i want to read to you why he doesn't agree with it. he says given the political misdirections that have marred this process, given the now duplicative and counterproductive nature of this effort and given the speaker's sh shortsighted scope that doesn't investigate interrelated political forms of violence in america, i cannot support this legislation. now there have also been questions in recent days about whether or not mccarthy himself would be asked to testify. of course, we are a long ways from who exactly would be subpoenaed, who would have to testify. this commission would be made up of five republicans and five
on friday you had a deal announced by john katko and benny thompson saying they had struck a deal tos january 6th commission. and katko has been telling his colleagues there is some bwiggl room about what's going to be investigated. the emphasis will be on january 6th but there were some opportunities potntially to explore other areas outside of january 6th and leading up to january 6th. but today you have the top republican saying he actually doesn't support that deal. i want to read to you...
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katko yesterday. now, i believe, this is just my opinion, i believe that one of the biggest failures that led to what happened on 1/6 was a failure to act on intelligence that we knew. that's why i supported that bipartisan commission. because i wanted to see -- i want to see the intelligence. i want to see what was being said by all of our experts in the run-up to 1/6. on january 6, part of the problem was the fact that we did not act on intelligence that we knew. if the national guard was needed, there is a protocol in place to activate the national guard. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for another minute. mr. womack: i object to the creation of a quick reaction force. a $200 million expense to bring the national guard into the picture. there is a protocol in place. we ought to exercise it. the way you do it you act on intelligence. i also oppose creating the $250 million slush fund for future unknown costs. let's understand what our security needs are before we throw money at
katko yesterday. now, i believe, this is just my opinion, i believe that one of the biggest failures that led to what happened on 1/6 was a failure to act on intelligence that we knew. that's why i supported that bipartisan commission. because i wanted to see -- i want to see the intelligence. i want to see what was being said by all of our experts in the run-up to 1/6. on january 6, part of the problem was the fact that we did not act on intelligence that we knew. if the national guard was...
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he negotiated with katko for four months. passed to box in your opponent and talk about how they're bad people. this was an honest and good faith effort to get this thing passed. >> well, and it is a bipartisan effort. i mean, if you look at the vote in the house, 35 house members, republican house members voted for this legislation. as you say it was negotiated among them. i actually think that joe manchin completely misreads the history of the filibuster. it was always designed to block by super majority the majority. the founders did not intend that. it's the way it has been used, and it's also been used in areas where it blocks progress from civil rights to voting rights, all of those things from the civil war on forward. and so i just think joe manchin has it wrong. and he's speaking out two sides of his mouth because he can't believe on the one hand that the commission bill needs to go forward, and then on the other hand, side with the very arcane rules that keeps us from dealing with an issue that touches on our democr
he negotiated with katko for four months. passed to box in your opponent and talk about how they're bad people. this was an honest and good faith effort to get this thing passed. >> well, and it is a bipartisan effort. i mean, if you look at the vote in the house, 35 house members, republican house members voted for this legislation. as you say it was negotiated among them. i actually think that joe manchin completely misreads the history of the filibuster. it was always designed to block...
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katko felt like there was room in the language of this bill that if the commissioners on it wanted to. this to me is a tough look for mccarthy on this issue where they don't want to be talking about january 6th any more than they absolutely have to. >> why do this, throw katko under the bus so he can ride shotgun with trump? >> there weren't a lot of places for mccarthy to go. think about it, they just threw out liz cheney because she wanted to talk about january 6th, because she thinks it's important to exam what happened. to garrett's point there, republicans have been using the talking point they don't want to focus on january 6th. they want a broader conversation around different events that have been happening, black lives matter protests, et cetera. i think the third thing is it's very likely that he himself could be subpoenaed w commission actually looked into what happened on january 6th, what did donald trump know, what did he do to actually stop this? >> i would like that. i would like him to talk about that. garrett, i always want to talk about bipartisanship if i can. i wa
katko felt like there was room in the language of this bill that if the commissioners on it wanted to. this to me is a tough look for mccarthy on this issue where they don't want to be talking about january 6th any more than they absolutely have to. >> why do this, throw katko under the bus so he can ride shotgun with trump? >> there weren't a lot of places for mccarthy to go. think about it, they just threw out liz cheney because she wanted to talk about january 6th, because she...
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chairman katko deserves a lot of credit. when it happened he panicked. he got his orders from donald trump to kill it. again, at a time when the american people really want their leaders and parties to stand up for principles, to do us right. especially when it comes to getting to the truth about an insurrection. an attempt to overthrow for our democracy, people want to know the truth. and they want it to be done in a way that is bipartisan. similar to what we did in the 9/11 commission. so we presented that and kevin mccarthy couldn't take yes for an answer. it is really quite sad. and again, i don't quite know what donald trump has on him. but clearly, kevin mccarthy is afraid to death of donald trump. and that's pathetic. >> well, now you've got the senate to. there's a hurdle there. so 35 votes -- let me just ask you this. 35 votes in the house. what did you set the line at today? >> well i was hoping for at least 30 votes or 40 votes. in the aftermath of the republicans going against. so i think it's a solid bipartisan vote. but again, the frustrati
chairman katko deserves a lot of credit. when it happened he panicked. he got his orders from donald trump to kill it. again, at a time when the american people really want their leaders and parties to stand up for principles, to do us right. especially when it comes to getting to the truth about an insurrection. an attempt to overthrow for our democracy, people want to know the truth. and they want it to be done in a way that is bipartisan. similar to what we did in the 9/11 commission. so we...
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speaker pelosi was engaged, but the two principles john katko and myself were dedicated with our staffe right. because look, this is the citadel of democracy. the united states capital. we can't afford to have anyone overrun it, especially for certifying an election. chris, if this becomes the norm that means every election, every state representative election, if you disagree with it you just hear the place up. we're better than that. and so for more reasons than i can tell you, it's important that this commission moves forward. >> so i guess, my sense is obviously an expectation past next week. i think it's gonna pass whether you have republican votes are not because there would be every democrat would vote for it. as your expectation, you're going to have a big bipartisan consensus vote on this? you know, is that what you're thinking? because i'm thinking about what the message is going to send to the senate and how much pressure there's gonna be on them to act. >> well, i think the senators will have to act. the republicans that i've talked to, not a lot of them that indicate that
speaker pelosi was engaged, but the two principles john katko and myself were dedicated with our staffe right. because look, this is the citadel of democracy. the united states capital. we can't afford to have anyone overrun it, especially for certifying an election. chris, if this becomes the norm that means every election, every state representative election, if you disagree with it you just hear the place up. we're better than that. and so for more reasons than i can tell you, it's important...
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he laid his hands on senator katko said get this done.ocrats and republicans equal representation, both partys have to sign off on any subpoena. which also means that either party could block a subpoena. that was important to the republicans. not sure why. but he came out today. let me play it real quick. >> this pelosi commission we tried to work on for quite some tomb, i asked pelosi for one on january 13th why in that time an officer got killed on good friday. didn't want to have the scope to do that as well. >> so that's not true. the commission that was formed in the bill that you passed yesterday could absolute investigate that attack if they wanted to. here's republican congressman katko dissputds what mccarthy just said. >> i want to note that the commission's scope of flexibility to investigate targeted violence and domestic terrorism relevant to the january 6 attack. it will be up to the commission to decide how far they want to go with that parameter. do i feel that the capitol -- the attack on the capitol that killed an office
he laid his hands on senator katko said get this done.ocrats and republicans equal representation, both partys have to sign off on any subpoena. which also means that either party could block a subpoena. that was important to the republicans. not sure why. but he came out today. let me play it real quick. >> this pelosi commission we tried to work on for quite some tomb, i asked pelosi for one on january 13th why in that time an officer got killed on good friday. didn't want to have the...
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katko yesterday. now, i believe, this is just my opinion, i believe that one of the biggest failures that led to what happened on 1/6 was a failure to act on intelligence that we knew. that's why i supported that bipartisan commission. because i wanted to see -- i want to see the intelligence. i want to see what was being said by all of our experts in the run-up to 1/6. on january 6, part of the problem was the fact that we did not act on intelligence that we knew. if the national guard was needed, there is a protocol in place to activate the national guard. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for another minute. mr. womack: i object to the creation of a quick reaction force. a $200 million expense to bring the national guard into the picture. there is a protocol in place. we ought to exercise it. the way you do it you act on intelligence. i also oppose creating the $250 million slush fund for future unknown costs. let's understand what our security needs are before we throw money at
katko yesterday. now, i believe, this is just my opinion, i believe that one of the biggest failures that led to what happened on 1/6 was a failure to act on intelligence that we knew. that's why i supported that bipartisan commission. because i wanted to see -- i want to see the intelligence. i want to see what was being said by all of our experts in the run-up to 1/6. on january 6, part of the problem was the fact that we did not act on intelligence that we knew. if the national guard was...
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katko: i thank the gentleman for yielding. madam speaker, i rise in strong support of the suicide prevention lifeline improvement act. i was proud to introduce this legislation alongside my good friends and tremendous leaders on mental health issues, congresswoman napolitano, and congressman b, eyer -- beyer. every year during mental health awareness month, i talk about the urgent need for action. this year, however, the issue is more critical than ever. as the coronavirus pandemic impacted almost every part of our daily lives, we saw devastating increases in the number of americans suffering from mental health issues. one report by the centers for disease control last june indicated 40% of u.s. adults reported struggling with mental health or substance use. with nearly 11% of adults and over 25% of those aged 18 to 24 years old having seriously considered suicide. those are stunning numbers. the threat of this pandemic was not solely a physical or financial one. it has taken the toll on the mental health of millions upon mill
katko: i thank the gentleman for yielding. madam speaker, i rise in strong support of the suicide prevention lifeline improvement act. i was proud to introduce this legislation alongside my good friends and tremendous leaders on mental health issues, congresswoman napolitano, and congressman b, eyer -- beyer. every year during mental health awareness month, i talk about the urgent need for action. this year, however, the issue is more critical than ever. as the coronavirus pandemic impacted...
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but keep it along the same lines of fairness, of bipartisanship that republicans, congressman john katko, who is a republican, negotiated, there was a compromise, everybody agreed to it. what is nancy pelosi picks that model? if she has john katko as a republican, liz cheney, adam kinzinger, anthony gonzalez. >> former congressman denver riggleman. >> if she sticks to a very bipartisan select committee, that will take the wind out of the republican argument that this is partisan. >> we'll see what happens. jamie gangel, i wish we were covering a more pleasing adventurous story, but it is what it is. it's good to have you here, jamie. >>> coming up, more of my interview with the mother and partner of the late officer brian sicknick. >>> then, the cdc just updated their guidance for masks for children. will your kids have to mask while playing kickball? stay with us. cal: our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪ you love rich, delicious ice cre
but keep it along the same lines of fairness, of bipartisanship that republicans, congressman john katko, who is a republican, negotiated, there was a compromise, everybody agreed to it. what is nancy pelosi picks that model? if she has john katko as a republican, liz cheney, adam kinzinger, anthony gonzalez. >> former congressman denver riggleman. >> if she sticks to a very bipartisan select committee, that will take the wind out of the republican argument that this is partisan....
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so we're looking for republicans who can just do their job the way that liz cheney and john katko and adam kinzinger and others have done. republicans voted to convict donald trump. there were senators who did the right thing so we know that they can. they should not cement the moral collapse of the republican party going away with donald trump's coverup because he is behind it. if he said i support the commission they would all be voting for it so they're behavesing like a religious cult. >> representative raskin, good to see you. thank you for joining us this morning. i will have much more on the fight for the commission. but i'll also talk about the status of the infrastructure negotiations and we'll dive into the fight to end poverty and the cease-fire in the middle east continues the hold for now. the role america should play in the region and thing on conflict. t's nice. can i use apple carplay to put some music on? sure, it's wireless. pick something we all like. ok. hold on. what's your buick's wi-fi password? “buickenvision2021.” oh, you should pick something stronger. that's
so we're looking for republicans who can just do their job the way that liz cheney and john katko and adam kinzinger and others have done. republicans voted to convict donald trump. there were senators who did the right thing so we know that they can. they should not cement the moral collapse of the republican party going away with donald trump's coverup because he is behind it. if he said i support the commission they would all be voting for it so they're behavesing like a religious cult....
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and yet, katko cuts it with this deal, and then mccarthy rips the rug out from under him. in the end, well -- they are afraid of donald trump. he is afraid of donald trump. donald trump doesn't want this commission to happen. he thinks it's all a witch hunt and a fraud, and whatever else excuse is going to come up to throw sand in the gears of the investigation that's going to show his culpability and inciting those people to ransacked the capital, in order to overthrow the will of the american people. with the electoral college vote been certified. mccarthy, i don't understand -- actually, i do understand what was going on with him and why he had the sudden reversal from january 13th saying, you know, january 6th, donald trump was responsible to go to mar-a-lago -- kevin mccarthy has always, and will forever remain, be someone who cares about power. right now for him, doing whatever donald trump wants, he believes it is going to lead to a situation where republicans will retake the house and he will get the speakers to count. that's what it's all about. >> jim, i need you
and yet, katko cuts it with this deal, and then mccarthy rips the rug out from under him. in the end, well -- they are afraid of donald trump. he is afraid of donald trump. donald trump doesn't want this commission to happen. he thinks it's all a witch hunt and a fraud, and whatever else excuse is going to come up to throw sand in the gears of the investigation that's going to show his culpability and inciting those people to ransacked the capital, in order to overthrow the will of the american...
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katko is one of the 29 g.o.p. members of the bipartisan problem solvers caucus.ught all members of the house were supposed to be in the "problem solvers" caucus. that's why we send them to washington. though i guess these days, a lot of them go down to mar-a-lago to meet with the "problem." mccarthy and scalise claim they oppose the bill because they wanted the commission not only to investigate the events of january 6, but also the black lives matter protests of last summer, antifa, and the death of capitol police officer william "billy" evans. okay, but it's the "commission on january 6. that's like being upset the movie "halloween" doesn't investigate what happened on arbor day. ( laughter ) i think you hug trees or don't hug trees. something with trees. one person i was surprised to learn voted "no" on the measure. certainly changes the meaning of this text from greg: "hey, bro, wanna hang this weekend?" ( laughter ) in the g.o.p. crazy-off, there's a new challenger throwing his tinfoil hat into the ring, st. louis attorney mark mccloskey, seen here in his tw
katko is one of the 29 g.o.p. members of the bipartisan problem solvers caucus.ught all members of the house were supposed to be in the "problem solvers" caucus. that's why we send them to washington. though i guess these days, a lot of them go down to mar-a-lago to meet with the "problem." mccarthy and scalise claim they oppose the bill because they wanted the commission not only to investigate the events of january 6, but also the black lives matter protests of last...
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benny thompson, the chairman negotiated with john katko, the republican ranking member of that committee and announced this on friday. i want to talk a little bit about what's going to be on this commission, this 9/11 style commission to investigate the insurrection. the commission would include a ten-member panel with half appointed by democratic congressional leaders including the chair, and half by republicans including the vice chair. the panel would have the power to issue subpoenas if they are signed off by both the chair and vice chair. the chair is going to be a democrat, the voice chair will be a republican. the commission would be tasked with issuing a final report by the end of this year making it a quick time line for the panel to put out its final product. you know, after the agreement was announced on friday, reporters spoke with house minority leader kevin mccarthy to get his take on the deal. he said he was still looking at it, but that is not stopping democrats from putting this to a vote this week. they plan to vote on creating this 9/11 style commission that would inve
benny thompson, the chairman negotiated with john katko, the republican ranking member of that committee and announced this on friday. i want to talk a little bit about what's going to be on this commission, this 9/11 style commission to investigate the insurrection. the commission would include a ten-member panel with half appointed by democratic congressional leaders including the chair, and half by republicans including the vice chair. the panel would have the power to issue subpoenas if...
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he threw one of his own members under the bus, john katko who negotiated this deal in good faith and gotten rather significant concessions from the democrats, it was a compromise, so to have 35 members of the house vote, republicans vote against leadership was significant, however, having said that, we need to kind of step back a back and look at the fact that 175 republicans, about 84% of the republican conference voted to-- voted against a commission to look at the events of january 6th. this should have been an easy vote. this should have been noncontroversial to say we needed to, on a bipartisan basis, look at this. and yet, 85, 84% of the republican caucus voted against it and that is an even greater number than voted to overturn the election result on january 7th. so, if anything, you know-- >> we will leave this here and take you live now to that conversation with ohio congressman bob latta speaking at a telecom conference hosted by the free state foundation. we join it in progress. >> there are underserved areas and i'll touch on that. we as republicans on the energy and cong
he threw one of his own members under the bus, john katko who negotiated this deal in good faith and gotten rather significant concessions from the democrats, it was a compromise, so to have 35 members of the house vote, republicans vote against leadership was significant, however, having said that, we need to kind of step back a back and look at the fact that 175 republicans, about 84% of the republican conference voted to-- voted against a commission to look at the events of january 6th. this...
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. >>> congressman john katko, the ranking member on the committee. thank you for your time tonight. we got the gas flowing again what do you think should be done to make sure this does not happen again >> first of all, this seems to be an escalating series of attacks on the homeland here and as head of homeland security that's our job to figure out what to do first of all, this is probably the most significant ransomware attack on one of our critical infrastructures ever very significant attack. we've got to take a look at that and we've got to understand even though it wasn't an attack on the operation of the pipeline, so therefore they shut down the pipeline in an abundance of caution to make sure the ransomware attack didn't affect the operations of pipeliner act. i find it hard t but make no mistake about it, this was a major act from russia i find it hard to believe that the russian government, given the sophistication with ransomware attacks and knowledge of them, and happening from russia, didn't have tacit approval as we mentioned a few minutes ago. that's something we need
. >>> congressman john katko, the ranking member on the committee. thank you for your time tonight. we got the gas flowing again what do you think should be done to make sure this does not happen again >> first of all, this seems to be an escalating series of attacks on the homeland here and as head of homeland security that's our job to figure out what to do first of all, this is probably the most significant ransomware attack on one of our critical infrastructures ever very...
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legislation, by the way, negotiated by a republican, john katko of new york.'s a complete abdication of his political responsibility, of his responsibility to history, and to every person in this country who needs to get to the bottom of what happened on january 6th. not only is it an abdication but he also threw his own person, congressman katko, a republican, who negotiated this in good faith, with democrats, so they could come up with a way to do an investigation that would be bipartisan. and in saying he doesn't support it, he's saying to republicans, okay, go out and say whatever you want about it and we know that, just last week, there were republicans who were out there saying that the insurrection was effectively a walk in the park by a bunch of tourists. it gives them permission to keep telling these lies. >> he's trying to, gloria, pretend in a way that this didn't happen. that it's not something that warrants really an investigation, which is what many republicans believe. he talks about there being misdirections. the misdirections are coming from h
legislation, by the way, negotiated by a republican, john katko of new york.'s a complete abdication of his political responsibility, of his responsibility to history, and to every person in this country who needs to get to the bottom of what happened on january 6th. not only is it an abdication but he also threw his own person, congressman katko, a republican, who negotiated this in good faith, with democrats, so they could come up with a way to do an investigation that would be bipartisan....
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and i know john katko very well. he's a dear friend. i had even talked to john before hand.seemed like they got what they wanted. so i never like to be cautiously optimistic, but i thought they'd get over 30 votes. they did. i thought it could be as high as 50 but didn't get there. this was a political calculation. i find it interesting. i want to say this very quickly. the further this could be pushed out, it may be more detrimental. the issue is if donald trump is not going to let this go away, he's going to continue to push the stop the steal theatrics. we're talking about a political calculation on the gop side. we know that president trump isn't going to let stop the steal go. you'll see these odd challenges like the cyberninjas right down in arizona. you'll see this ridiculous push from conspiracy theories from months ago. i think we need an aggregator, a commission to look at all the data. and if i could humbly submit, let's just have two commissions. one commission that says, hey, we'll look at 1/6 and the other that looks at left and right ideologies and digital pol
and i know john katko very well. he's a dear friend. i had even talked to john before hand.seemed like they got what they wanted. so i never like to be cautiously optimistic, but i thought they'd get over 30 votes. they did. i thought it could be as high as 50 but didn't get there. this was a political calculation. i find it interesting. i want to say this very quickly. the further this could be pushed out, it may be more detrimental. the issue is if donald trump is not going to let this go...
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they are upset with leadership not only because of this, the way they left congressman katko hanginge january 6th bipartisan commission, which he negotiated and in good faith, and they're sick of seeing their names basically as the gop being dragged through all of this horrible mess. >> i mean, it really is -- it really is quite remarkable and quite something. susan, what do you think -- i mean, when democrats were faced with what republicans said was, you know, people like ilhan omar having had a history of of anti-semitic tropes, they demanded action. there was action taken on the floor by democrats, because there were many in their own party who were very concerned with that language. how can they allow this to stand when that's how they're talking about the things that democrats are saying? >> how could they not allow a bipartisan investigation of the events of january 6th, kasie? we keep asking, how could this happen? whether it be under donald trump or under kevin mccarthy. kevin mccarthy is doing kevin trump's bidding. this is how it happens. this is why they're being quiet. t
they are upset with leadership not only because of this, the way they left congressman katko hanginge january 6th bipartisan commission, which he negotiated and in good faith, and they're sick of seeing their names basically as the gop being dragged through all of this horrible mess. >> i mean, it really is -- it really is quite remarkable and quite something. susan, what do you think -- i mean, when democrats were faced with what republicans said was, you know, people like ilhan omar...
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the other way as a lot of republicans would like. >> i imagine the security questions even that john katko laid out there are ones that need to be answered, whether republicans want answers or not. so one thing that i want to play for you and get your reaction is in donald trump's first impeachment, you said something that really just stuck with me ever since. >> you know you can't trust this president to do what's right for this country. you can trust he will do what's right for donald trump. he'll do it now, he's done it before, he'll do it for the next several months, he'll do it in the election if he's allowed to. >> what do those words mean to you now? >> it means that, you know, all the wars we went through the last year, including january 6th, were eminently predictable and avoidable. if people stood up to that president and people upheld their constitutional oath, the evidence against the president in both trials was overwhelming. look, the republican party has become the party of donald trump. his lies become their lies. his obfuscation becomes theirs. his opposition to finding ou
the other way as a lot of republicans would like. >> i imagine the security questions even that john katko laid out there are ones that need to be answered, whether republicans want answers or not. so one thing that i want to play for you and get your reaction is in donald trump's first impeachment, you said something that really just stuck with me ever since. >> you know you can't trust this president to do what's right for this country. you can trust he will do what's right for...