we just want to make the symbolic gestures, which is that i will not meet sir kayla raul. i will not shake his dirty hand and i will not pose in a collective photograph afterwards and i will not take part in any joint communicate. so how does that solve the problem? how do we move forward from that? and then i think is really beginning to define the difference between the west and the rest of the world because the rest does thing. ok, well we've, we've set up these organizations and how do we try to resolve problems? and i think it really is something that you really love wrong. emphasizes this all the time, which is when we set up these organizations, whether it breaks the shanghai cooperation, organizational the c s t o r or the, the, the asian, the economic area we're doing with a view to solving problems. we don't do it in order to direct and again, someone else say right now we're all together. you know, let's see how much we can hate the other. but as far as the ways this doesn't always, gideon logically driven the, they get together, the g 7 get together and nato an