but then keir tough to be done?s to deal with those in party who would like to in his party who would like to see a more open border policy . see a more open border policy. >> well, absolutely . this is the >> well, absolutely. this is the exact problem for keir starmer. he knows as we all know, that the public as a whole are very pro tackling illegal migration over and over again. it comes either top or second on people's list of their top priorities. so as you say, the labour frontbench are very keen to say that they are to going tackle illegal migration. they say that their only opposition to the rwanda plan is that it isn't practical and their plans would be as tough as the conservative plans. but but more bit easier to put effect and more to put into effect and more practicable , or whether that practicable, or whether that will hold true as we get nearer to a general election remains to be seen because as you say, there are those both in the labour parliamentary party and in the labour party members more widel

10096, nobody from keir starmer down — small boats?m keir starmer down in the _ small boats? 10096, nobody from keir starmer down in the labour _ small boats? 10096, nobody from keir starmer down in the labour party - starmer down in the labour party thinks it is a good idea for people to be risking their lives on small boats and paying the people smugglers millions of pounds. we have to stop this happening, but the way to do it is not through gimmicks and headline chasing, and all the incompetence we have seen this week, which is turning the government into a laughing stock. tt which is turning the government into a laughing stock-— a laughing stock. if you got into ower, a laughing stock. if you got into power. in _ a laughing stock. if you got into power, in terms _ a laughing stock. if you got into power, in terms of _ a laughing stock. if you got into power, in terms of that - a laughing stock. if you got into | power, in terms of that backlog, what are you committing in terms of the timescale for labour to bring those figures dow

into people going ikely saying that if keir starmer gets into people going to ly saying that if keirt people are going to get prosecuted for gender critical speech ? speech? >> yeah, i mean he said it a pink news conference. keir starmer he was going starmer said that he was going to try and prosecute those individuals that sort of individuals and that sort of they crimes and they called it hate crimes and effectively that means that if you are to deny somebody else's identity by using language, he would try and then prosecute on that. so he's already said that this is potentially something he's going to implement. >> could this be >> okay. peter, could this be a sticky wicket for the labour leader woman in the leader if any woman in the country into the polling country goes into the polling booth day and thinks booth on election day and thinks , you know, i don't want to vote for somebody who might want a bloke in my changing room. >> i think it's a sticky wicket for all politicians and part of having reasonable is having a reasonable debate is admitting a admitting that it's also a

because what keir starmer because that's what keir starmer in his heart hearts, wants. in his heart of wants. i don't think that's there's any evidence for that. >> i've been at the speeches where keir has said he campaigned for it for three years. >> no , no make brexit work. >> no, no make brexit work. >> no, no make brexit work. >> that was theresa may's slogan . have we made brexit work? we've got a 5% drop in the economy. i'm not going to list all the problems. martin you know them as well as i do. they're in the papers now. every day. every single day. i mean, every single business says, what about covid lockdowns? >> dennis you know what? you can't blame all the can't you can't blame all the woes on brexit. woes and betide me on brexit. what the small matter of what about the small matter of £2.6 trillion index of lockdowns that voted on? that your party voted on? >> it was a government that's got the big majority. boris not boris. now she's got the biggest majority of tory party has had bigger even the margaret thatcher. so frankly blaming labour for those votes, i don't think

is this another u—turn then, from sir keir starmer ? keir starmer?would cease all oil and gas drilling in the north sea, but it is a little bit of a sort of volte face compared to what his shadow ministers have been saying over the last couple of weeks. we've had mixed messages from them over whether they would whether labour would would over whether labour would plan to cease all oil and gas drilling as extinction rebellion and just off oil have been asking for or simply to asking for or simply refuse to grant any new licences to oil and gas providers. now keir starmer has said that he would not revoke the 100 new oil and gas licences that rishi sunak has offered , but he wouldn't has offered, but he wouldn't allow any more new oil and gas licences to be granted. it does feel over the last few weeks as though we've been seeing the leader of the opposition and the prime minister sort of fall over each in an attempt to look each other in an attempt to look less green than i think the uxbndge less green than i think the uxbridge by—election was a bit o

but did keir starmer and stop did keir starmer try and stop scrap hs2 ?t scrap hs2? no, he asked for it to a different route. to have a different route. >> what do you think? ben habib well, funnily enough i would have sympathy with have had more sympathy with keir if for outright if he'd gone for an outright might scrapped i >> -- >> buta >> but a different route is a nuanced acceptance of hs2 . and nuanced acceptance of hs2. and you know, look, keir starmer flip flops all over the place, doesn't he, all the time. and so it doesn't surprise me that he's flip flopped on hs2. had he called for its scrapping, i would have entirely supported him. he couldn't. but but. but >> well, he might still do it if he he might still popular. >> i mean actually i would scrap it even spent it now even though we spent a lot on it. we don't lot of money on it. we don't need we need a high need it. we do not need a high street line, a high speed line between and manchester between london and manchester and birmingham. we just don't need northern elements of >> the northern

that said, keir starmer has uk.nly saying this because she herself is on the back foot. keir starmer is saying that the tories have actually failed to deport illegal migrants quickly enough, which is very interesting in itself because it shows yet again that perhaps on this issue there isn't that much clear blue water between the tories and labour. water between the tories and labour . keir water between the tories and labour. keir starmers argument isn't that suella braverman is really doing anything wrong. it's just that she's not carrying out her own policies quickly enough and he is saying that labour in her shoes would be doing things better and more efficiently. so it'll be really interesting where this interesting to see where this argument progresses because yes , illegal migration is a political hot potato at the moment, but both sides are actually pretty close to each other. >> yeah. and olivia, this is the front page of the sunday express today. that's where this exclusive has come from. and there's there

to keir starmer talkirto use them, but-ie doesn't listening to keir starmer talkirto use them, but heistening to keir starmer talkirto use them, but he feels't want to use them, but he feels like might have to the like he might have to in the same he says he doesn't same way that he says he doesn't want those new oil and gas licences and yet if they're already approved, the labour party cancel he's party won't cancel them. he's almost sort for free almost riding sort of for free on tory turmoil and getting perhaps the benefits of the policy of the policy with none of the drawbacks the of the selling drawbacks of the of the selling of policy. of that policy. >> absolutely is. i think >> he absolutely is. i think you've that he's the you've said before that he's the luckiest his ducks luckiest man alive. his ducks just to into a row all just seem to fall into a row all the time. he can easily say, well, this is the government's fault. they've created this crisis, is the only crisis, but now this is the only way got to solve it. i way we've got to solve it. i find it really interesting t

but keir prole, you know? um, but keir starmer, i mean, yeah, he's got a knighthood.working class family. his dad pulled himself. his dad was a toolmaker, pulled himself up by his boot strings. keir then went on to he did go to grammar school having passed the 11 plus. okay became fee paying, but he got a kind of a bursary, so he's i mean, to my mind, he's anything but posh, which makes you wonder quite which way the red wall voters will go at the next election if they think he's too posh. what about rishi sunak, who's twice as rich as the king? yeah, he's a practically a billionaire and was head boy at one of the poshest schools in england and wolves. >> yeah, no, exactly. i mean, thatis >> yeah, no, exactly. i mean, that is the case, isn't it, really? and i think this idea that now the red wall voters won't vote for keir starmer because they think he's off the scale, posh is completely blown out water by the fact out of the water by the fact that loads of them vote for that loads of them did vote for bofis that loads of them did vote for boris just wonder boris johns

what keir provided; been talking but no, it has much that what keir provided he zen talking but no,ovided he carries.ing but no, it has much that what keir provided he carries itg about, provided he carries it out . it is idea about, provided he carries it out. it is idea of making out. it is the idea of making britain a green superpower , and britain a green superpower, and he's focusing mostly on this is myth. the creation of jobs. this is myth that it's pure. >> sorry, nigel, this is pure economic pie in the sky. what you're doing is you are spending vast . you would be spending vast vast. you would be spending vast billions replacing an efficient technology with an inefficient one. you would therefore be shrinking the economy. >> there is if you're going to get to net zero, that is what you've got to do. if you don't believe in net zero, that's really important. >> it is the myth. >> it is the myth. >> if you want to get to net zero, you've got to spend the trillion pounds that philip hammond was talking about. but no current politician on is admitting no current politician on i

but we're going to get keir starmer as prime minister. you fear prime minister.ight try and bnng that, you know, he might try and bring towards eu? bring us back towards the eu? >> better him sir >> well, we better call him sir keir starmer then, haven't we? but but it's a good one to win for the conservatives next year. it's not looking great at the moment. a year is a long time. never say never. we start second favourites. i think from here, but with keir starmer move us back into the eu . i don't know, back into the eu. i don't know, he says not do we believe him ? he says not do we believe him? >> well, yeah. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. conrad, you've raised a very important and a slightly complex point, but an important point. what's your thought on it? >> well, i think we should have used some of the experts in this country, imperial college country, like imperial college and in places and king's college in places like yeah the imperial college. >> you, of course, got all th

is this to keir ears this music to keir starmer ears or he have to take on or could he have to take onthese political headaches if he gets into office next year? and our comedy movies no longer proving to be big hits at the box office wants a guaranteed way to make a film fortune. the latest will ferrell and jamie foxx's movie seems to be flopping. is the genre now becoming a turnoff? all of that after and then after 12, we'll be joined by some furry friends actually a canine friend in the studio . and there'll be tasty studio. and there'll be tasty treats as we'll have hot tips on how to make the best bank houday how to make the best bank holiday barbecue and to savour some of the best burgers in town . so before all of that, here's your latest news headlines with lisa hartle . lisa hartle. >> good morning. it's 11:01. lisa hartle. >> good morning. it's11:01. i'm lisa hartle in the gb newsroom. nadine dorries says the prime minister has whipped up a public frenzy against her as she announced her resignation in a blistering attack. the former minister accused rishi sunak of demeaning h

richard says just watch any keir starmer speech on youtube that will get you off to sleep every times strong point, but he's made the labour party electable . so. so labour party electable. so. so that's that's some achievement. anyway, coming up in this section and do keep, keep those views coming in at gb views. no gbviews@gbnews.com. but coming up in this section we have a discussion with conor holohan from the taxpayers alliance. drivers across the country will be hit with a £100 million in charges every day if ulez levies are rolled out nationally. sadiq khan's plan to expand the ultra low emission zone beyond the capital would see nearly 8 million motorists who still drive older petrol and diesel cars having to pay £12.50 a day. when will enough be enough ? i'm when will enough be enough? i'm joined now by conor holohan from the taxpayers alliance, who's insisted it's time to slam the brakes on these extra charges. conon brakes on these extra charges. conor, how are you ? can you hear me? >> thank you and good to be with you. yeah. so i can i can. so we at the taxpayers allianc

keir lose. he thinks he won't lose. he's smug . keir starmer lose. he thinks he won't lose.ed to death because he knows starts upsetting knows if he starts upsetting people like sadiq khan, then there's big chunk his party there's a big chunk of his party that on turning on that will start on turning on him, turning on him. but if he'd got any balls, if he'd got a backbone, he'd a spine , backbone, if he'd got a spine, he'd call sadiq khan out every single day. on this issue, you've pensioners now you've got pensioners now in outer pensioners who are outer london, pensioners who are on a pittance of pay that's having to pay £12.50 an hour to go and see their family a day. what a shocker. that is disgraceful. >> honestly, the number of people emailing people who are emailing me, leigh, saying will no leigh, and saying they will no longer be able to leave the longer even be able to leave the house each because they house each day because they simply afford the cost. simply cannot afford the cost. because remember there are some folk or they would have to do is leave their driv

i assume at the moment, unless sunak changes, keir starmer is going to get your vote?s today, it might have been yesterday, in the times, and i think he gets that this is notjust a do—good package of policies, this is about our future as a country, that all the jobs and growth are in this colossal economic transition that we're embarking on at the moment. to turn away from that would be economic insanity. we know that the market has already decided. whatever politicians say, the market has decided this transition is going to happen. coal use fell faster under president trump than it did under president 0bama despite all his efforts to prop it up. with respect, you're not answering my specific question, which many people will be very interested to hear your answer. no, you're right. so, i'm delighted that he gets that, and i think he does get that. my concern about the labour party at the moment, and i don't say this as a tribal politician, because i'm not a tribal politician, is that i think there is a blind spot on the natural environment. so everything, when the labo

keir lose. he thinks he won't lose. he's smug . keir starmer lose. he thinks he won't lose.ed to death because he knows starts upsetting knows if he starts upsetting people like sadiq khan, then there's big chunk his party there's a big chunk of his party that on turning on that will start on turning on him, turning on him. but if he'd got any balls, if he'd got a backbone, he'd a spine , backbone, if he'd got a spine, he'd call sadiq khan out every single day. on this issue, you've pensioners now you've got pensioners now in outer pensioners who are outer london, pensioners who are on a pittance of pay that's having to pay £12.50 an hour to go and see their family a day. what a shocker. that is disgraceful. >> honestly, the number of people emailing people who are emailing me, leigh, saying will no leigh, and saying they will no longer be able to leave the longer even be able to leave the house each because they house each day because they simply afford the cost. simply cannot afford the cost. because remember there are some folk or they would have to do is leave their driv

richard says just watch any keir starmer speech on youtube that will get you off to sleep every timerong point, but he's made the labour party electable . so. so labour party electable. so. so that's that's some achievement. anyway, coming up in this section and do keep, keep those views coming in at gb views. no gbviews@gbnews.com. but coming up in this section we have a discussion with conor holohan from the taxpayers alliance. drivers across the country will be hit with a £100 million in charges every day if ulez levies are rolled out nationally. sadiq khan's plan to expand the ultra low emission zone beyond the capital would see nearly 8 million motorists who still drive older petrol and diesel cars having to pay £12.50 a day. when will enough be enough ? i'm when will enough be enough? i'm joined now by conor holohan from the taxpayers alliance, who's insisted it's time to slam the brakes on these extra charges. conon brakes on these extra charges. conor, how are you ? can you hear me? >> thank you and good to be with you. yeah. so i can i can. so we at the taxpayers alliance ha

is keir starmer and the labour party conspiring with those lawyers?at's what that's what rishi sunak seems to be suggesting in the tweet he sent out last week. and that's what suella braverman seems to sent out last week. and that's wh suggesting'averman seems to sent out last week. and that's wh suggesting .verman seems to sent out last week. and that's wh suggesting . are nan seems to sent out last week. and that's wh suggesting . are nan also s to be suggesting. are you also suggesting that , well, there is suggesting that, well, there is evidence of that. >> yes. i mean, this just this week we've seen an allegation that a labour councillor in newcastle who is also a legal representative, was on tiktok, apparently soliciting illegal migrants to come to her and she would help them to stay in the uk . now i would help them to stay in the uk. now i think would help them to stay in the uk . now i think that would be uk. now i think that would be news to her residents in newcastle who probably want, like i do, secure borders and control migration . but

that is the labour leader sir keir starmer. by the street here in central manchester around the court, i think the amount of public interest in this case and the number of questions that remain to be answered mean that this story, even though the legal process is concluded, even though lucy letby was driven away in the last few hours to begin the rest of her life in prison, those questions will continue about why lucy letby was allowed not to appear in the dock and whether the law should be changed. also the ongoing investigation, which has now widened to take in lucy letby�*s whole nursing career. remember, this trial only covered a 12 month period of her nursing career, but we have been told the cheshire police already talking to colleagues in different hospitals and looking back through babies that she was in the care of, that she was supposed to be looking after to see if there any further future crimes that lucy letby would need to be charged with most of this is a story that will continue, that will continue to run, and i

there is not this enthusiasm and energy behind keir but i have to say keir starmer, but i have to sayl sorry for conservative voters because it feels like they're permanently gaslit they're being permanently gaslit by their own party. boris johnson funds ltns now rishi sunak looking into them in 2019. they commit to net zero by 2050. now they say they hate net zero. they said they'd get immigration down to the tens of thousands in 2010. now net immigration, 600,000 over the last 12 months. so on issue after issue, they create bogeymen. they say we have to do something about this. they're the ones responsible. >> but there's been a massive issue in between, which is called the global pandemic, which has altered the landscape up hugely various different places. >> well, i just think and look, it's partly a function of being in power for so long, but i just think people aren't going to take very seriously if they take them very seriously if they keep on keep on doing this. on immigration, on net zero, on ltns look, it was their idea to have this prohibition on new petrol being sold off p

but we're going to get keir starmer as prime minister. you fear prime minister.ight try and bnng that, you know, he might try and bring towards eu? bring us back towards the eu? >> better him sir >> well, we better call him sir keir starmer then, haven't we? but but it's a good one to win for the conservatives next year. it's not looking great at the moment. a year is a long time. never say never. we start second favourites. i think from here, but with keir starmer move us back into the eu . i don't know, back into the eu. i don't know, he says not do we believe him ? he says not do we believe him? >> well, yeah. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. conrad, you've raised a very important and a slightly complex point, but an important point. what's your thought on it? >> well, i think we should have used some of the experts in this country, imperial college country, like imperial college and in places and king's college in places like yeah the imperial college. >> you, of course, got all th

it's being used to divide, but just a moment. >> keir starmer , the leader of >> keir starmer, the leader didn't mention this in your monologue , mention this in your monologue, is against it because it's been completely misrepresented across the board. >> no wonder it's unpopular. no wonder it is. but just a moment. >> the leader i don't know how you vote, but the leader of the labour party. the leader of kahn's labour party is against it. so is there a message there? >> no. i think the message is that the popularity of this has diminished because it's been completely represented. >> but could be because it's >> but it could be because it's a bad policy. so there was liar. >> but then why? i feel that you've used science in a way where it's confirmation bias in the same way sadiq khan could be accused of using science. right. but fact . but the fact. >> well, no, actually, i was saying that you shouldn't use science. you've got accept science. you've got to accept it's and it's a political decision and that hide behind that trying to hide behind science is pretty bogus. and it would for

just very briefly, the labour leader sir keir _ woodburning.the i labour leader sir keir starmer urged city con, london's mayor, to reflect on ulez expansion —— sadik khan. —— sadiq com. what are your thoughts on how the labour leader's stance is towards this approach of whether ulez should be rolled out and expanded? iii ulez should be rolled out and expanded?— ulez should be rolled out and exanded? �* ~ ., , ., ., expanded? all i know is i want to reduce air— expanded? all i know is i want to reduce air pollution. _ expanded? all i know is i want to reduce air pollution. i _ expanded? all i know is i want to reduce air pollution. i can - expanded? all i know is i want to reduce air pollution. i can see - expanded? all i know is i want to| reduce air pollution. i can see the impact it has on childrenhealth, we see the level of asthma being reduced by 30%, hospital admissions for asthma in children have reduced by 30% when the thing that was introduced so we can see the evidence and i really feel the politicians should follow the evidence and s

this is an absolute nightmare for keir starmer. >> it is an absolute nightmare for keir starmer and it'sweeted about it today, urging labour to drop alistair strathern as their parliamentary candidate for mid bedfordshire . candidate for mid bedfordshire. we shouldn't be surprised about that. the polls show that although the general public are generally quite on board with combating climate change in some way, they detest the tactics of eco zealots like greenpeace and extinction rebellion . and so in extinction rebellion. and so in recent weeks we have seen keir starmer really trying to distance himself from those groups , a feat which is made groups, a feat which is made harder by the fact that one of labour's donors, dale vince, has also donated £1.5 million to just stop oil. so keir starmer was already on the back foot with this. and this has put him even further behind and will be really, really interesting to see if it reflects at all in the polls when we see the next set next week. the other problem for keir starmer, of course, is that it really highlights some of those internal di

keir is right to say we cannotjust announce changes to things...haven't spoken to him directly about it but... i but he has been to this constituency a lot and yet you have not broached this key topic with him? we haven't talked about this specifically but he has - been here campaigning. although a varied constituency, this area does include some of the most disadvantaged communities in scotland. more than a quarter of children here are living in poverty. i don't vote very much now because i'm very disappointed in all the parties. rises in utility bills and the price of groceries are being felt. half of rutherglen goes to the food bank now. i know people who go there because they need to go there. and some people are working. it's a shame. and some small businesses are struggling. we had six staff before the pandemic. and since covid we was struggling for two and a half years. now only one staff. only one person for the whole coffee shop because we struggle. at the 2019 general election, the snp won rutherglen and hamilton west with a majority of 5

keir him night after night. keir starmer a remainer. starmer remains a remainer.direction of travel, do you think? >> baby steps death by a thousand paper cuts endless treaties, closer alignment and then star mccann pop the big question in a decades time, which is what this poll says . so which is what this poll says. so i think it's very comforting for people, politicians who are in the leave camp to say that it's all the fault of remain politician who then tried to stifle it because, of course, there were remain politicians who were trying to stifle it. >> that's true. the reason >> that's true. but the reason it hasn't worked isn't because >> that's true. but the reason it theirt worked isn't because >> that's true. but the reason it their stifling. isn't because >> that's true. but the reason it their stifling. it'st because >> that's true. but the reason it their stifling. it's becausee of their stifling. it's because none of the leave campaigners had any plan for what we would do after we left. there isn't a plan, and so we haven't followed one. so what we'v

the keir starmern that he thinks she thinks that lab�*country. the keir starmer is the country.he lefty lawyers who are stopping deportations of rapists and murderers. you're big on talk but not on action, robert, because as labour pointed out, you've more pointed out, you've sent more home rwanda than home secretaries to rwanda than actual deportees . actual deportees. >> well , good actual deportees. >> well, good morning, camilla. well, we want to send more people to rwanda . we want to get people to rwanda. we want to get that scheme up and running. it is unfortunately being stuck in the courts at the moment, but that's not the totality of our plan. we're working on many other fronts at the same time. we've signed a brilliant deal with albania that's reduced the number of people crossing from albania from 30. this time last year to 4% today. we're working with france, with italy , with with france, with italy, with other countries to make sure that we have stronger defences on the northern french coast and here in the uk we're making it much more difficult for people to work

moving on the telegraph now and the education secretaries keir now and the education secrewhether keirrsity keir now and the education secrewhether university is(eir over whether university is affordable . francis well, so affordable. francis well, so this is keir starmer saying that if he was a young man now, he wouldn't be able to afford to go to university. and considering keir went to a private school, i find that highly unlikely. but anyway, we'll gloss over that fact. so he's saying that it's the university seems to the system has become more and more unaffordable the more we have gone , the more the loan system gone, the more the loan system has become in the grants that have been taken away and actually , the person who is at actually, the person who is at fault for this is tony blair, who decides that 50% of our young people should go to university. and when pressed upon that fact, he had no coherent explanation as to why it should be 50, why not 40? 8? why not 52? too many people are going to university. we have a deficit, are thick and loads of them are thick. exactly. we ha

i mean, keir the shop on this.eir starmer was quite starmer actually was quite supportive and said it was wrong. reeves was a mild wrong. rachel reeves was a mild and the media of bullying. >> alison going >> alison rose i'm going to deal >> e! e to have e!" >> we're going to have a clip from reeves little bit from rachel reeves a little bit later arron banks and later on with arron banks and get on that. i liam, get his view on that. i liam, it's the first time you've been on since the resignations last week and the apologies i got from the bbc looking at it sort of a step back with a bit of cool reflection. this has really shone a light on a big problem, hasn't it? >> it has. anyone that thinks this is story about you this is a story just about you doesn't understand the story, frankly. i think you would frankly. and i think you would you would agree with that more than anybody. what this shows is some ridiculous it's some of the ridiculous it's pretty nefarious activities that go on in big institutions , go on i

i mean, keir the shop on this.eir starmer was quite starmer actually was quite supportive and said it was wrong. reeves was a mild wrong. rachel reeves was a mild and the media of bullying. >> alison going >> alison rose i'm going to deal >> e! e to have e!" >> we're going to have a clip from reeves little bit from rachel reeves a little bit later arron banks and later on with arron banks and get on that. i liam, get his view on that. i liam, it's the first time you've been on since the resignations last week and the apologies i got from the bbc looking at it sort of a step back with a bit of cool reflection. this has really shone a light on a big problem, hasn't it? >> it has. anyone that thinks this is story about you this is a story just about you doesn't understand the story, frankly. i think you would frankly. and i think you would you would agree with that more than anybody. what this shows is some ridiculous it's some of the ridiculous it's pretty nefarious activities that go on in big institutions , go on i

sir keir starmer commenting. into lucy letby crimes should be absolutely put on a statutory footing and that's partly because it's what the victim's family want. now that has to be a consideration, doesn't it? >> think so, yes. you should >> i think so, yes. you should care what the care for listening to what the victims families and the victims families and all the other potential victims families as i just think this as well. and i just think this is so grave , this incident that is so grave, this incident that we have to have the inquiry at the level, led by the highest level, led by a judge . so evidence is on oath so judge. so evidence is on oath so they can see and as indicated before, slow and correct is much better than fast . and getting it better than fast. and getting it wrong and having to revisit things. >> and i guess the parallel would be where we've been discussing the fact that letby has not been in the dock to hear the sentencing, the statutory bafis the sentencing, the statutory basis for the in

keir starmer will in hands will have his head in his hands so insulting people.e want to vote for them and the second me about the second thing for me about the way just held forth is that way he just held forth is that in the end, if it's not about the he's talking the cash that he's talking about, then you could show bit about, then you could show a bit more sympathy and empathy to the working are working class people who are going vehicles going to have their vehicles taken them. it shows going to have their vehicles take far them. it shows going to have their vehicles take far labour's them. it shows going to have their vehicles take far labour's lostn. it shows going to have their vehicles take far labour's lost theirshows how far labour's lost their roots. >> and what he's doing is he's hitting the small businesses, the the electricians. hitting the small businesses, the are the electricians. hitting the small businesses, the are heartbeattricians. hitting the small businesses, the are heartbeat of ians. hitting the small businesses, the are heartbeat of th

we get more from keir simmons. >> reporter: tonight, idris hassam is in a prison in more rocco.n turkey, listening to our phone call as he tells us about his two-year nightmare. >> sometimes there is -- i cannot breathe. >> reporter: hassam was arrested by moroccan authorities, wanted by china under an interpol red notice, which interpol confirms has since been dropped. he is a member of the mostly muslim uighur minority from china. the chinese government accused by the u.s. of committing genocide against uighurs. while in exile, hassam caed against treatment. china cathat terrorisd wants he says he is innocent, and now his wife and three children live in fear. you must miss them. >> i miss very, very much my family. i have picture of my family. i cannot see this picture. if i see this picture, i am very upset. i am crying for myself. >> reporter: tonight, a new report obtained exclusively by nbc news documents disturbing efforts by china to allegedly target exiled uighurs. "we have your father and sister. you'll never see them again if you don't collaborate with us," the report

they couldn't possibly protect women in women's spaces because keir starmer , until very because keir on. so they need the tories to pass laws to do it for them. they couldn't have faced down the unions, could they, and come up with a moderate pay deal because well , they kind of are because well, they kind of are the unions , so they need the the unions, so they need the tories to do it. rishi sunak right now is actually making sometimes quite sensible decisions , ones that are in decisions, ones that are in britain's best interests. and he is being completely vindicated by the fact that if keir starmer came into power, i don't think he'd actually reverse much. if keir starmer comes to power, he will be too busy trying to manage the labour party's own internal factions to actually fix any of the problems facing britain . i'm fix any of the problems facing britain. i'm going to fix any of the problems facing britain . i'm going to return to britain. i'm going to return to that very shortly. big win that i think, and a full frontal admittance that the people who claim to care most abou

keir starmer at least, keir starmer because at least, at least in davos, they're coming up with ideasth they're trying to come up with big issues. image, vision big issues. image, big vision stuff. agree with it. stuff. we may not agree with it. can at even can you look at him even remotely sympathetically through that remotely sympathetically through tha no, because ply him >> no, because they they ply him with to get him with cocktails to get him on board that's board with the agenda. that's it. well, let me come to >> well, right. let me come to you then, terms of you then, paul, in terms of this, the timescale we're looking here, interest rates looking at here, interest rates as we said, another quarter as we said, up another quarter of a% this week. the of of a% this week. the bank of england saying unemployment is going when do you think going to rise when do you think this is going to burst? this bubble is going to burst? and we are heading for and if we are heading for a crash, connor says, when crash, as connor says, when because think think lot of because i think i think a l

that keir starmer where we are.eir starmer is denying it all. >> lewis i mean does, does the government to involved government need to get involved in an agreement, a voluntary agreement between two people? so agreement between two people? so agree between an organisation and a worker. i don't see why and a worker. i don't see why and so many uber drivers have told me they hate the new rules where they don't get paid as much, but they get sick pay and all of it because they all the rest of it because they don't days. don't want to take sick days. they make money. they want to make more money. >> they want to work well. like i this? this i say, what is this? this is centralisation. the centralisation. this is the government their their government putting their their hands that we hands into everything that we do. but this story in particular just reeks of tony blair. and it's and he's making a comeback and what basically starmer is doing is saying, i want to make sure 100% that the tories are dead, even if i have to

but i keir starmer i think keir starmer is a massive fan.g massive fan. he just dropped a video bank holidayy, but calling massive fan. he just dropped a video bank holiday smacks. .ling for a bank holiday smacks. doesn't it have trying to get in on the action and it's so naff and also it's jinxing it. i think the australians are calling for a bank holiday and then knock out. so then we knock them out. yeah. so for sake, as i tweeted for goodness sake, as i tweeted him, it man. for goodness sake, as i tweeted hinyeah. it man. for goodness sake, as i tweeted hinyeah. and it man. for goodness sake, as i tweeted hinyeah. and they|an. for goodness sake, as i tweeted hinyeah. and they lost the >> yeah. and they lost the australians lost in the three four playoff plays today . four playoff plays today. >> we know flip flop you >> we know captain flip flop you know he probably changed sides halfway through the match but the old keir starmer, he'll be supporting spain after 40 minutes. >> this is it. we have got a bank holiday coming up, by the way,