you're going to see the ken cuccineli model versus the chris christie model. it is largely true that chris christie has essentially done a politics of attempting to pick the fight where things are most popular and ken cuccineli has not done that. >> just moments ago, you said to mark warner, his record on sodomy. which is crazy, we are talking about someone who has litigated the issue of sodimy and divorce. then you have chris christie who obviously has taken pages from a wider, a better playbook. but let's not forget, chris christie would freak out enough about cory booker that he spent millions of dollars to hold a separate election. so he would not have to be on the same ballot as him. that is insight. this thing has gotten completely bust up. >> the one thing i would say about christie, is that it's interesting what christie represents in the -- a generation ago, the play book that republicans were spoedsed to follow, christie todd whitman in new jersey, rudy giuliani in new york, to be socially liberal and economically conservative. christie thought he co