i know i'm talking about robert kennedy, but in my book i spend a good bit of time on president kennedy understood what the issue was. i mean, the interview with thurgood marshall, met with him in april of 1960, but again, you have to find the openings, and in two and a half years, they achieved quite a bit, if you look at it in the context of the period and, you know, sort of what was done and what was attempted and have the influence, lobbying for the civil rights bill, and all the rest, it was not grandstanding, it was doing the tough work. >> yeah. i hear you saying that -- i'm picking up on our previous discussion that kennedy's being educated by being exposed to the problems of african americans in the south and the north. he's doing things, like, trying to protect black voting rights in the south which of course is where we kind of thought that battle was won, but we're back in middle of it again; right? these are kind of the next stage of the movement through his encounters with black people, things like pushing for the civil rights bill when the democratic party is still the pa

kennedy tried to answer. they talked about all the things that the federal government had done or failed to do. it was a litany and everybody got in. there's no real transcript, but i put it together from recollections people had that were at the meeting. the gist of it is after a while kennedy just sat silently. at one point, someone said to him -- [inaudible]. baldwin describes this when white and black come together, there's this. he said if you don't get it, we're in trouble, because you and your brother are the best of what america has to offer, which was quite a statement. and kennedy sat there for three hours, and then he said okay, we're done. the people, they leave. and there he is. so how people -- and everybody was shook up by the meeting. kenneth clark said it was the most dramatic, violent encounter, verbal, that he had been a part of. that happened then. people say that changed kennedy. and marshall says it did not. by 1963, he knew things were awful. he knew all that; right? but it just startle

after kennedy. i repeat the military sector on the intelligence sack iran such and it became clear that you couldn't not get into there. not any was cutting basis defense, spacious and in our country and abroad. it was by their brilliant troops back from afghanistan. i would like to see by and no further, we have so much and we have a trillion dollar budget now with the military, basically in the contract. so it's a long way to go. but can he hunch that really in an essential way? that's what kennedy was doing. he was by firing the cia and his 2 age kimbell and bissell. you can't believe the shock waves he sent through washington. here he is, the young man, after truman and eyes an hour, the young man, 4233 years old. we're starting to change things. the way things were done. he did not believe in colonialism. he did not believe in the cold war. and he was moving away from, he had been silver, and he was educated by the bay of pigs, and above all, by the cuban missile crisis, he was a changed man. n

kennedy's campaign song grieves -- greets us for one of the windows. >> ♪ hope for kennedy hope for kennedythe enthusiasm being shown here in berlin is of a different quality from that encountered in cologne or frankfurt. berlin's political situation is -- a free island in a communist sea is reflected in their greeting. they are free, but nobody forgets a freedomless existence is only a few blocks away. ♪ ♪ yesterday morning, the east berlin police draped flags on the gate. and now, a few minutes before the president's arrival, the communists rollout a large propaganda sign. ♪ as the motorcade turns on to the 17th of june street, cameras on the communist side of the wall are set up. it's the first time the president kennedy stands before the wall. ♪ the motorcade leaves and crosses 17th of june street named for the 1953 rebellion in the soviet zone. kennedy's car is preceded by a truck with german and american cameramen. kennedy visits checkpoint charlie, the official allied crossover point, which has become a historic site. it was here that soviet and american tanks faced one another and s

kennedy: jimmy, you're right. kennedy: five u.s.t have had no children. >> stop the steel, i'm winning this. kennedy: jesse, are you ready? remark cleveland. [laughter] kennedy: which president had his daughter in london, and after his wife passed away? john tyler, martin van buren, benjamin harrison or woodrow wilson? >> grover cleveland. kennedy: for answer is not cleveland. >> van buren. kennedy: yes! [gun shots] that counts. >> i have no delay. i got that right. kennedy: she got it right. >> it's already under protest. kennedy: claiming it. i hate everyone. [laughter] which president had a shoe thrown at him during of protest? >> how many are only children? spike. shame on the libertarian bias on this show. a bunch of dirtbags. kennedy: i am so proud of all of you. you are such good people. yoall right, jim. what does the f and harry s truman stand for? stuart, samuel, simon or nothing? >> oh boy. i'm going to stick with my original, i'm going to say nothing. kennedy: hubert the right. middle name is only the s but he has a. aft

he goes to john kennedy. yeah, it's true and he's got the irish moves and i would imagine there is some sympathy there. but there's no way that by and who has a cold warrior from way back is going to go up against our structure. after kennedy, i repeat the military sector on the intelligence sector, iran such and it became clear that you couldn't not get into there. not any was cutting basis defense, spacious and in our country and abroad. it was by their growing troops back from afghanistan. i would like to see by and no further, we have so much and we have a training and all a budget now with the military, basically, and the track. so it's a long way to go. but can he hunch that really in an essential way? that's what kennedy was doing. he was by firing the cia and his 2 age kimbell and bissell. you can't believe the shock waves. he said through washington. here he is the young man, after truman and eyes an hour, the young man, 423 years old. we're starting to change things, the way things were done. he did

kennedy. from the outset nixon realized that fidel castro was either going to be an opportunity or a problem for him. depending whether castro was still in power or gone by election day. now, in the fall of 1960 john kennedy was beating the eisenhower administration over the head with fidel castro. kern realized that no subject roused american voters more than the spector of a communist cuba and every whistle stop he reminded voters that the island was, quote, a near eight jet minutes away and he blamed eisenhower and company, including vice president nixon, for letting this happen. now, imagine being in the shoes of richard nixon. he had a pretty well earned reputation as a come news buster and along comes a democrat from massachusetts suggesting that he, richard nixon, was not quite anti-communist enough. it was galloning. kennedy managed to out-frank nixon as an anti-communist hog. probably the best example occurred in one of the nixon/kennedy television debates. not the first, the one that

kennedy's tour. but did not want to make any of you choose have to choose between sharing valentine's day with loved ones or with your friends here at the kennedy library. so we're so pleased to have so many of you here with us this evening. 50 years ago jaqueline kennedy introduced herself to the nation. in many ways the public already knew mrs. kennedy through her role as the president's wife mother of two children and as the woman who charmed world leaders like christian de gall. but on february 14th 1962, it was a more substantive jaqueline kennedy who guided viewers on a televised tour of the white house and the nation was transfixed. 46 million americans watch that night and an additional 10 million tuned in days later. the reviews where a lot of tory describing mrs. kennedy is a virtuoso performer and an art critic of subtlety. standard my favorite anecdote relates to the evening of the day mrs. kennedy had spent taping the tour. after dinner, she and president kennedy watched some outtakes wi

kennedy: i like your thinking doctor.were talking a couple of weeks when you were here about -- that they are adult population stats are still in single digits. what happened there? >> i think what happened is there is a lot of vexing hesitancy in japan and japan is a lot of logistical problems. for four example you can go to the pharmacy and get vaccinated by a pharmacy but in japan you can only be vaccinated by doctors and certain medical professionals of their a lot of constraints. it kind of derailed the ability to get vaccines into people's arms there. it's made it difficult for them to get into position where the bee olympics have not caused a controversy and they will go on but the population is not while vaccinated in japan. kennedy: if you have athletes coming from countries that are poorly vaccinated going to a country which has almost no vaccinations what can the delta variant due to the japanese population? >> there is a lot of concern about the super spreading event happened at the olympics but the japanese g

kennedy gave it the thumbs up. he still held out the possibility of canceling it, but he never did and for reasons that i've mentioned, i don't think there was ever a good chance that he would have. and so back to where we began april 15th and the opening attack. on the cuban airfields the attack that was meant to destroy fidel castro's air force i cover the invasion and the aftermath in great detail in the book. but it's it's hard to do it justice in a few minutes. so i'm afraid you're gonna have to read the book if you want to find the full story. but for the moment, i'll just say that the important thing about those air attacks on april 15th is that they did not completely take out castro's air force. they left about half a dozen intact half a dozen of his planes. that was half a dozen too many. the following evening april 16th president kennedy canceled the second round of airstrikes that were scheduled for the morning of april 17th. these strikes were meant to complete the job of destroying castro's air force.

kennedy: this is incredible. interview the guy who originally but the judge dismissed above a medical you can't read so by am going to appoint a lawyer for her but she does not have agency she does not have a voice. through the on thing uniting the country right now. >> i'm not an attorney we can go free here i don't care. the britney spears story is reminded of monica lewinsky. buyer media when paris hilton, tmz encouraged all this atmosphere cheering him on trying to rehab her. say no guys were not going to let you skate off when we contributed to the mental states at the time. that's ready to start learning lesson for a reference monica lewin said because of how the media treated her back in 96 with the impeachment. and then try to rehab her and suddenly she's a hero to them now. don't think we should let them get away with that. >> actually not. all of those old-school 60s effeminacy demonized her and who backed up bill clinton was absolutely disgusting. you are right about that. disconnect same situation. ke

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kennedy used in 1961 in his inaugural. he said we needed to bear any burden, pay any price to support the cause of freedom and liberty around the world. obviously we had a disastrous -- and it didn't work out but that in no way means we should not stand up for freedom. in queue by been there and it is the totalitarian state no matter what anyone says bernie sanders included and by the way the cubans have occupy venezuela and other sectors we have spoken about. this is time for us to stand up for freedom and liberty to cast off dictatorship and have real words that mean something for the first time in a long time. kennedy: it's interesting the democratic socialist america, they are ready to lock arms with nicholas maduro and you are absolutely right is locked in with the president of cuba. we have people who have kind of a stranglehold on one of the two major political parties in this country and they are the ones tracking the political policy for democrats was kind of scary that not only are they not denouncing active clos

kennedy: just a predict.good answer for unit. [laughter] kennedy: why don't they just vote him out. >> the north and south come together let's emergency who pulled had now. ♪ ♪♪ kamala harris rated. >> kamala. >> who is that. >> does it have to do with court pretty. >> she should be tried may be thrown in jail but she is the vice president do you know her name. >> no i don't know. >> that is the vice president. how could i forget her name. oh my god. it. >> yes, your robot pretty. >> mark zuckerberg. >> you are such a genius. >> zuckerberg. smith that is zuckerberg, he is a freak. >> his name is mark zuckerberg. he's one of the new york's geniuses. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. kennedy: he looks like everyone. [applause] he looks like everyone looks. it is an nba player. >> son daniel coming at that 11 right and you and cat are now tied. let's go to round of four. his around for. this the final round this is worth two points, is it 90s printed team who will win nancy pelosi or jerry seinfeld who willoughby. danie

kennedy: that is right.try it jimmy periods before she got it right she got it right. >> this is such a racket this game is that already under protest thank you. >> spike i am a libertarian i hate everyone. here we go we each present had a shoot thrown at him during a press conference. >> george w. bush. kennedy: that was so easy. >> how many are only children. [laughter] or had spite, shame on the libertarian unbiased on the show it is painful. >> it's a three way tie. you are such good little people. all right, jim this is your second question. what does the s and harry s truman stand for, stuart, samuel, simon or nothing? >> oh boy. i really think about this i'm going to stick with my original stratagem going to say nothing. kennedy: and you would be right jimmy failla. his middle name is the s he used a period after it as a signature. >> and nothing is going to stop us now, baby i'm singing the mannequin song it is on. >> i love that movie. that was so fun. remember when she was dead or not living? that

kennedy: your d.a.the product of cop killers and he says anyone who claims that crime is on the rise which is not hard to see, you don't have to live it to believe apu can read some of the statistics that his implication is if you think crime is on the rise that's racist which in and of itself is a racist statement. >> whoever drops it won't drop the race card. he is looking for every possible excuse to not prosecute the criminals no matter how heinous. also there are murders that he is led off with ankle monitors who end up getting out of jail and then killing again. this is the problem we have and it's pinned down to completely malicious district attorney. kennedy: what i don't understand about that is i am all for justice and prison reform. i don't think there should be private prisons and i don't think we should imprison nonviolent drug offenders but people who commit violent crimes who wish to hurt other people, those people need to have consequences and the total lack of accountability unfortunate

kennedy: yesterday dr. fauci contradicting himself again, claiming it was a moral imperative. >> the research was done, very regulated it was reviewed. it was given progress reports, and published in open literature, i think if you look at back rashal why it was started it was almost as if you didn't pursue the research wow u would be negligent. kennedy: transparency in china, that happened. or did it, everything has pretty much been destroyed. can the doj be trusted to get to the bottom of this. gary? >> no. absolutely not, garland will never allowance -- dr. fauci to feel the heat of a criminal probe, what is frustrating dr. fauci believes that senator rand paul is accusing him of developing sars cov 2, but he cannot get fauci to answer a simple question, where the money came from from where the money went to, all they have to do is agree one point, then we can move forward, i think that this fight that goes on between rand paul and anthony fauci is a big distraction, we have bigger things to worry about.

kennedy: i am wearing one.ds of fauci critics say sought about science but about control pretty special it comes to vaccinated people. twenty points no longer have to mask up? mask mandates hurt the drive to vaccinate. nothing is more confusing than the patch work of mask rules for the upcoming school year. some district acquiring a masks, others are not. nevermind kids are largely safe from agenda california are suing governor gavin newsom arguing the tasks are worse than the mental health of children the viruses but are we on the cusp of mask nation 2.0, what common sense went out this time customer let's get into with knights man panel, we have house of kfi los angeles, the gary and shannon show it is gary hoffmann. to ask two ends. all delicious. cohost of the sitcom podcast the legendary kmele foster. look at that smile for the host of the richard fellow show radio host, fox news contributor it is richard fowler, welcome gentlemen let's get right into this. so, gary i was excited. i would give some sense o

kennedy: toilet paper.ernor has raincoats a 10 million out youth for his foes. counter efferent's have raked in more than double that. it is a growing throng of angry voters that are the most concerning. a march survey showed 38% of california's favor the recall that was back then. now that number has blossomed to 47% according to los angeles times pole. despite mr. piano t keith, the whole thing is a power grab, only 25% estates registered voters are republican. so why is everyone else in the state so pissed? shall i count the ways customer, sign the golden state are up 31%, higher than the national average for the deadliest year last year since 2007. one san francisco precinct car break-ins are up over 750%. even former senator barbara boxer was most broad daylight. organized mobs are organized retail crime account for 85% of losses and big pharmacies like walgreens and cvs. the state will not clear brush and handsome pants blames wildfire on climate change but not the power cartels with the crappy equipm

the topic perked kennedy up.said i think every politician should write a book, it can help your standing in the political realm. that is what nixon did. he worked on a book. it cover different moments, different crises. it is similar in structure to george w. bush's memoir. it really picks key moments from that person's life. it was a best-selling book. it helped him begin to reestablish himself as a politician and begin that second act that led him to become president. susan: after watergate, he authored several more books. how does this change his reputation post-watergate? craig: his presidential memoirs which came out directly after watergate were hugely anticipated. it was breaking news when the page count came out. people were like, this is how long the book is going to be. so there was intense interest because of the watergate issue. after that, the books became less newsy, they were more philosophical, books about governing philosophy and politics. i think they helped, as much as anything else, president

kennedy: yes.o make climate change the umbrella because of everything. the problem is we need that over, over, and over again people stop listening to you. they stopped taking the issue seriously. what other issues can we blame for a string of tragedies? >> i am just going to start playing their game. i think the federal reserve easy money policy is what is to blame for this. i blame it on government regulation and the war on drugs. and the covid at lockdowns. everything i am against is the reason why this building collapsed. as you said people stopped paying attention paid what's interesting about this moment is it's very revealing about a mindset. and a mindset where you kind of have your policy agenda and you view human beings as pawns on a chessboard. if this tragedy can be exploited to help launch your agenda, then great let's use that. it's politics at its most disgusting. kennedy: is disgusting. i hope emmanuelle is embarrassed he said never let a good tragedy go to waste. it is so gross. be

kennedy were tired. they went to bed. and when they got up the next morning, a very large crowd, hundreds of people assembled right here in what used to be a parking lot. and the democratic operatives at the time and speaker jim wright had arranged for a plat bed truck and microphones to be pulled into the parking lot so the president could step out to see the folks and address the crowd that had assembled on the parking lot. they didn't know there was going to be a speech. they just showed up hoping to come out of the hotel and for the motorcade to leave. so the president comes out with a number of other dignitaries and he gives the first of his last two public speeches right here. >> the united states to fulfill its obligations around the world require that the united states move forward economically. that the people of this country participate in rising prosperity and it is a fact in 1962 and the first six months of 1963 the economy of the united states grew not only faster than nearly every western country, which had

to kennedy's surprise, his popularity shot up.s more popular as a result of this and taking responsibility for, he said i am the responsible officer of this government and he took the blame even though there is plenty of blame to go around. it was an interesting speech because he emphasized that this was their work of cuban patriots, anti-communist, who loved their country and wanted castro and communists out. the cuban reduced as themselves -- they were using cia to achieve their ends and because -- the average age was around 22, very young, many of them are still alive, several hundreds of them are still alive, and i would love to hear from any of them if they call in. it is interesting also that kennedy definitely said later in that speech that having ruled out military force unless there is a eminent threat, -- imminent threat, he did not rule it out entirely. that may have encouraged khrushchev, the soviet leader on a gamble to do his gambol to place medium-range missiles in cuba the following year. host: j from indiana. good

kennedy@foxbusiness.com tomorrow night speight kennedy@foxbusiness.com tomorrow night speight kennedyoh, hey, hi, dean. hey, hi there, uh... bob. (narrator) from the battlefield to the white house, from hollywood to the heartland, america's entertainer was bob hope. oh, this room, it's so dull and depressing tonight. if only there was some way to brighten it. oh, of course.

kennedy, you know had this persona of vigor.hat and and a new way of doing things that contrasted with the kind of daughtering sclerotic eisenhower administration it was unfair, but that was what kennedy believed that he could not afford not to act in some way. and so he believed more or less in the plan that he inherited from the eisenhower administration and i say more or less because accepted it allowed it to go forward and yet put severe constraints on it that helped doom its chances of success. let's talk to eric who's calling from lawrence, new york eric. good morning. good morning. thank you very much. my my question is in two parts objectively how responsible is president kennedy or also his brother for calling off the invasion and not giving the air cover that's polemical historically and second. i've always been taught the central intelligence agency is an inflammation gathering organization, but yet if i've understood you correctly and many others it's been involved in military preparations training people militarily

kennedy and richard nixon. here is that exchange. >> i look at cuba. 90 miles off the coast of united states. in 1957 i was in havana. i talked to the american ambassador there. he said that he was the second most powerful man in cuba and yet even though ambassador smith and ambassador gardner both republican ambassadors, both warns of castro and the marxist about, in spite of their warnings to the american government, nothing was done. >> i think that senator kennedy's policies and recommendations for the handling of the castro regime are probably the most dangerously irresponsible recommendations that he's made during the course of this campaign. in effect, what senator kennedy recommends is that the united states government should give help to the exiles and to those within cuba who oppose the castro regime, providing they are anti-batista. let's just see what this means. we have five treaties with latin america including the one setting up the organization of american states in bogota in 1948 in which we've

but kennedy also saw a balance.amazing things about the kennedy inaugural is the balance that it strikes between invoking the nations traditional values and projecting forward to a new era in the 1960s into the future and kennedy was trying to strike that balance. john glenn is somebody that did exactly the same thing. john glenn was traditional in his values and conventional in all of the kind of comforting ways and at the same time he was in that silver spacesuit towards 1957 that set the speed record flying faster than a speeding bullet across the united states and now he was going off into this new frontier. so, glenn was an avatar of both what had traditionally made americans feel good about themselves and their country and what made them excited enough and fearful about the future. >> of course all heroes are mythology stories and you've portrayed a three-dimensional character. i'm struck by tell the story about what he does when it's not a pretty picture it is a more complicated one. >> it's really not glenn

kennedy: dave smith?y right this is a heartless adler myself the biggest flaw in atheism in general is the need to worship is hardwired. if you are not worshiping one religion another religion just fills that void. look out just say this because what happens with this argument is that when you call it critical race theory, everyone backs off and goes that's not critical were not teaching critical race theory schools. but then when it's convenient they will say it is right critical race theory. the bottom line is this teaching racialist essentialism to children is evil and it is borderline child abuse. the fact is persisting in this country is disgraceful and we are going to -- we are already feeling up. we are going to feel the ramifications of this for years to come. it is the worst thing you could teach children on both sides, on all races present terrible thing to treat people. sue for this we have so many minority parents speaking out against it. that is why you have. >> they might be the biggest vict

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yes,. >> hike kennedy. kennedy: from this administration there have a handle on anything special on cuba water using. >> there responses pretty pathetic. they're not calling this what it is sprayed the white house continues to say the cuban people are protesting because of covid it the economy has been mismanaged. they will not say the word communist for they will not call the regime communist. and they are doing nothing to try to reopen the internet open up back channels there so information about what is going on which includes journalist being taken off by the cuban government officials while they are doing interviews about what's going on people been shot and killed in the streets are being dairy to protest the regime. something live not seen at this level in decades. and yet the president of the united states is mia. people ask if this has any consequences outside of cuba? of course it does russia's watching, venezuela's watching, iran is watching the weakness is condemn this thoroughly and politically

it went all the way up to john kennedy. it was created by the joint chiefs of staff and went all the way to the president's desk and the president said, we are not doing this. but the fact that it was proposed has been used by conspiracy theorists to say well if the government was willing to do this they are willing to do anything, fake 9/11 or fake the moon landing or kill kennedy. this is about as corrupt and shady a plan you can possibly think of. i can't believe our joint chiefs of staff came up with. to give you an idea. a list of different ways that we could justify an invasion of cuba to take out castro with the u.s. military. stage execution of cuban exiles. developing a fake terror campaign in miami in washington, d.c. and blame it on the cuban government, as somebody whose father was living in miami and i wasn't yet conceived, i am very happy they didn't put this plan into action. they literally were talking about blowing up buildings in miami and blaming it on the cubans. they were also talking about creating a r

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kennedy: today is tuesday. deflategate is officially open the department of justice today declared vaccine mandates are in fact, comes on the same to the cdc says almost everyone should start ring masks again. so has the pandemic officially killed personal freedom customer earlier today the d.o.j. announced private businesses and public agencies can demand employees to be vaccinated. the big question now is will the white house follow that guidance and demand every eligible american get the jab? back in december president biden said no way friends, watch. >> if you are not vaccinated you not as smart as i thought you were. kennedy: i think we played the wrong thing now he's singing a slightly different tune, thing a jerk about it, joe? >> no i do not think it should be mandatory i would not demand it be mandatory i would do everything in my power, just like i did not think masks have to be made mandatory nationwide part i will do everything in my power as president of the united states to encourage people to do

here today, fox news correspondent julie banderas, host of "kennedy" on fox business, kennedy, former state department spokesperson kevin morgan ortagus, and editor in chief of the daily wire, host of "the ben shapiro show," ben shapiro. he's also author of the new book, "the authoritarian moment." the president is set to help his strategy gets more shots in the arms of americans as the delta variant spreads and cases are on the rise. the day that led to its recent reversal unmasks. all this as critics say democrats have only themselves to blame for a vaccine hesitancy. because of comments like this. >> we are not changing the science. you know what changed, chris? the virus changed, and the science evolved with the changing virus. >> if you're not vaccinated, you not as smart as i thought you were. >> it's like drunk drivers. you don't have a right to jump drive and go out and put your life at risk and those of everyone else at risk. >> emily: ben shapiro, welcome back to the show. your thoughts on this? >> ben: i mean, the amount of bad data that is purveyed by our public health exp