marine kenneth o'keefe he is the managing director for the sunni project and joins us live from gaza kind of thank you so much for being here it's great to have you back now you served as a u.s. marine in the one thousand nine hundred one gulf war which unfortunately is one of the first times where depleted uranium was used on the battlefield talk a little bit about your personal experiences with with the human missions. well you know i didn't know anything about it when i when i was in the marines back in the early ninety's and i only found out about it later and realized that you know i was in the areas where the stuff was used and my ex-wife actually had a couple of miscarriages by me and at that point i started to realize that i might very well have been had some of these do you just write ments and my wife actually our two and a half year old son was born to two months early a couple years back and i can tell you that there was some fear of what i have seen happening to the iraqi people i've been to southern iraq i visited the children's hospital down there and i have seen the e

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my name is kenneth. i'm the medical director of nebraska medical services. it is a non-profit organization. a lot of them do only have medi- cal. we have four clinics in san francisco. it is my pleasure to offer support for the rebuild. contrary to the testimony, which portray a very different picture of what i know of cpmc, cpmc has been a good neighbor to our community and our patients. we have received numerous donations and grants from cpmc to help us take care of patients who have never had access. we are the home to a quarter of healthy san francisco patients in the city of san francisco. cpmc provide the emergency and in-patient care for our health feet san francisco patients -- healthy san francisco patient. a number of people who are only on medi-cal are delivered on an annual basis. close to 100 receive a free care at cpmc. cpmc has made efforts to hire more bilingual staff and translators so patients can go comfortable. they provide culturally sensitive selection for our patients. on behalf of the community, we support rebuilding cpmc. we ask that

kenneth ty says he's not looking to lay off employees, but he is trying to figure out how to do more with less. >> that we really want to practice good medicine, but, you know, at times, you know, with a limited budget, sometimes that's really, really difficult to achieve. >> reporter: working to provide the best care he can for patients such as little malena, with a shrinking pool of resources. >> we should not have the budget cut because really it will affect more families, especially like in neighborhoods that really need health care. >> reporter: now, this clinic does not turn patients away, it serves people with insurance, and without insurance. the director expects the number of patients who come here to go up 10% this year. live in san francisco, monte francis, nbc bay area news. >>> a string of dangerous and deadly storms continues to push to the east tonight. so far, it's left a massive trail of destruction and nine deaths in its wake. rob, this is so unusual. >> you know, we're seeing such a wide area affected, and we've just gotten this video fresh into the newsroom from j

. >> reporter: in the other camp is kenneth steiner, who owns 1,000 shares. he believes the deutsche bourse offer is too low. >> my prediction is that you'll see a higher price before the deal is actually voted upon, because i think it's doubtful as of today that it would pass. >> reporter: the question now is whether nasdaq will take its buyout offer directly to shareholders. on the floor of the new york stock exchange, traders like jonathan corpina are pulling for deutsche bourse. >> i think we'll continue to get more european listings wanting to list over here in the united states, and when they do they will directly come to new york stock exchange. >> reporter: he has no qualms about merging with a german company. although, like many americans, he hopes n.y.s.e. will be a part of the exchange's new name. >> anytime anyone talks about wall street, no matter what the story is, you see a picture of the new york stock exchange on the cover of the newspaper or on the news show. >> reporter: n.y.s.e. shareholders will vote on the deutsche bourse merger july 7.

let's go to public defender kenneth. ken, tell us. you are in fresno. first of all, what is it like in fresno? [laughter] and tell us about this battle that you have been going through

let's go to public defender kenneth. ken, tell us. you are in fresno. first of all, what is it like in fresno? [laughter] and tell us about this battle that you have been going through where, you know, it almost sounds like a horror movie where they are going after you with a buzz saw and at the same time, they have used contract attorneys to try to undercut the work that your office does. >> well, the problem in fresno, it is hot. trezz know is hot of course in the -- fresno is hot of course in summertime. it is hot all the time for me. i think the problem just mentioned right now is disparity in the funding theme as opposed to the ore parties involved in the criminal -- other parties involved in the criminal justice system. most of the funding agencies for us is almost 100% from the county. while the prosecution has the benefit of grants. in fact, i believe the district attorney might have at least half of their budget is provided by grants. that is not provided to the indigent defense providers. federal grants are almost all directed toward prosecuti

kenneth feinberg said yesterday he's paid out $3.8 billion of the $20 billion set up by bp. said 8,000 of the claims he's received border on fraud. >>> more than 200 gallons of oil were released in the gulf during that bp disaster. officials say it's safe to eat the seafood. but for local fishermen, the damage may have been done. we report from empire, louisiana. >> reporter: oyster fishermen in empire, louisiana bring in their haul to the wholesaler. the harvests are smaller and out of state orders have dropped. the wholesaler ships about 3,000 bags a month. before the oil spill, he sold five times as many. bp paid out more than $3 billion to settle claims. but he said he only received a small fraction of what he lost and gets it runaround from bp lawyers. >> every time you talk to somebody, nobody can give you an answer. >> reporter: right now, most of the gulf of mexico is open for fishing. only a 1,040 square mile area near the bp rig is closed. researchers are conducting frequent testing of seafood in the gulf to make sure it's safe. the recent assessment shows no sign

. >> reporter: washington attorney kenneth feinberg was appointed by president obama and b.p.versee the claims fund, a job that pays his firm $15 million a year. he says the program, while not perfect, is working. >> 200,000 claimants, individuals, have been paid. 200,000 in nine months. now, it may seem like a low percentage relative to the total number filed, but don't ignore the absolute number. >> reporter: we first visited the beach wedding business of chris and jenny sherill last august. >> check-to-check, day-by-day. >> reporter: within three days of the oil spill they lost 14 weddings worth $10,000 apiece. by early fall, they'd gone through their savings and were on the verge of closing. finally in november they got a check that largely covered their six-figure losses, but many of their friends and neighbors all along the gulf coast are still waiting for their money and resentment is growing. >> that is the biggest travesty of all is that feinberg has put us into that position, that it tears this community apart. >> reporter: many of those who have been reimbursed by b

kenneth kimbro and hundreds of others are now living inside the shelter. >> my heart's hurting already. i couldn't think it could get any worse. >> reporter: but the thackers got their rescue today, escaping with their most valuable precious possession. >> she's never been through anything like this. she was scared. >> reporter: now the river crested here this afternoon, but there is more rain in the forecast tonight. as one resident told us today, we'll be on pins and needles here for awhile. diane? >> another storm bearing down. thank you, barbara pinto. >>> and now, we turn to the frustration over gasoline prices. and an interview you saw right here last night that got the president's attention, and as a result, everyone was arguing today. gasoline prices are soaring, as we all know, and americans are asking, is anyone going to do anything about it? our jon karl asked house speaker john boehner about the facts of the hugely profitable oil companies are still getting taxpayer subsidies. well, jon is back tonight, with the news about what happened today. >> reporter: from speaker boeh

marine kenneth o'keefe he gave us a personal account of how depleted uranium affect him during the gulf war. i didn't know anything about it when i when i was in the marines back in the early ninety's and i only found out about it later and realized that you know i was in the areas where this stuff was used and my ex-wife actually had a couple of miscarriages by me and i at that point i started to realize that i might very well have inhaled some of these fragments and my wife actually our two and a half year old son was born to two months early a couple years back and i can tell you that there was some fear of what i have seen happening to the iraqi people i've been surprised for and southern iraq i visited the children's hospital down there and i have seen the effects they have photo album after photo album of these babies that don't even look human and i think that the use of depleted uranium is pretty much the definition and definition of crime against humanity the sad reality is that using nguyen the so-called heroes i was called a hero as were all of us and the first gulf war we ar

kenneth ellis was living a full life, a father of six and grandfather to 17, the 61-year-old high school history teacher was also a trained martial arts instructor. >> he changed so many lives, people, students, others. >> just two years ago he married his soulmate ella, but their marriage came to an end when they heard a knock on their door in their florida home at 10:00 at night. >> we opened the door, looked around. he was in front of me. and he closed the door and we stepped back. >> reporter: that's when ell ellis -- ella said two men pushed the door back and shot ken ikt in execution style. in his final words ellis yelled call 911. that's when ella bolted to the nearest phone. >> i still have this picture of him lying on the floor and grasping for air. and me calling the dispatcher, please come. please come here as fast as possible. please come ba to us. i hoped he would, but he didn't. >> reporter: kenneth was rushed to the hospital bus was pronounced dead on arrival. neighbors saw two men flee in a sedan. police have no suspects but are investigating 80 leads. >> we don't know if

who lost money as a result of this disaster we do know that kenneth feinberg who took over the b.p. process because it was so broken has only paid out one third of the hundreds and thousands of claims that have been filed so that means the vast majority of people who have been out of work for a year if people who are subsistence fishers who live off the fish that they're supposed to eat have not only not gotten income they can't eat the food they are supposed to be able to eat and they also have not gotten their claims paid and those claims need to be processed and need to be paid out now contrast that the fact that b.p. is fighting tooth and nail for every dollar when it comes from compensating those who may actually affected you know with their negligence with the fact that now b.p. is once again donating to political candidates with the fact that in two thousand and ten the oil and gas industry spent more than one hundred forty six million dollars lobbying the federal government and donated twenty eight million to federal campaigns do you think that people can ever win when you h

chairman that's just a short list of some of the names of economists niall ferguson harvard professor kenneth robot so all very highly influential names in terms of the economy finance and even politics definitely a lot of big names there now as i said the theme is crisis and renewal but i'm just wondering what that really means you know a lot of people are pointing back to an interview that george soros did back in two thousand and nine where he essentially said that he wants to rearrange the entire financial order is that is that a big conspiratorial the now people are saying this is where he's going to do it. because i got some of the fear mongering coming out of conservative blogs leading up to this conference that people are concerned from that political persuasion that soros is essentially trying to rework the global economy and to undermine america and a notch what sources don't forget perspective according to the organization is wanting to have a global framework that post economic crisis post financial crisis which the globe has seen shake it to its core there's a different set of fr

from "thor," kenneth branagh, also from "thor," thor himself, chris hemsworth.dancing with the stars" castoff, the new national school scrabble champions who i will face and conquer. and sir anthony hopkins. we'll also have music from calexico and k.d. lang and the siss boom bang. our first guest is a stunningly beautiful and emmy-nominated actress. she is a former univison hostess, who's married to a former al bundy on the extremely exception amly funny show "modern family." watch it wednesday nights at 9:00 right here on abc. please say hello to sofia vergara. [ cheers and applause ] >> hola! hello, jimmy. >> jimmy: you really ran out here. was that to avoid us staring at you? >> i was running? no. >> jimmy: a little bit. can i ask you to please keep your eyes up here when we're talking? thank you. >> look at the handsome crowd you have. >> jimmy: thank you. [ applause ] >> okay, i keep the eyes over there, but you keep them away from here. >> jimmy: i'm going to aim for your scalp and then maybe i'll get to just right to your eyebrows would be good. good to s

this is her extravagant gown by kenneth poole. look at all the detail. dress. >> gorgeous. >> join melissa. give her a big round of applause. >> all right. our final bride-to-be is stacey from detroit, michigan. got engaged a year ago outside our plaza. yes, hoda. let's listen to her story. >> hi, kathie lee and hoda. i was on a girl's trip to new york city watching "the today show" from the front row and my fiance jason flew in from michigan and popped the question. i was completely surprised and so were my girlfriends. none of us knew he was coming. this is the one day of our vacation all of us girls woke up late and did not have enough time to shower. one of the most special days of my life i was a complete train wreck. exactly one year from the day we were engaged on "the today show" we will be married in las vegas. jason is working on his master's degree and i'm working on our wedding details. a little wedding pampering from both of you will be the perfect opportunity to prop us up for our special day. not to mention i would look a million times bet

kenneth chadwick could face a judgment of $2.5 million for alleged negligent and not rescuing the teen. it was three women with the soccer team that got her out of the room. christopher could end up being on the hook for $5 million for participating in the assault itself. the defense argued the teen was not that drunk at the time and she invited the men to have sex with her during the trial, defense presented recent facebook photos of her partying and what's described of scantily dressed closed. there's six men and six women on the jury. they only need a preponderance of evidence. this is a much less strict requirement than you find in a criminal trial where all jurors need to have a unanimous decision on the convict or evidence considered to be beyond a reasonable doubt. bob redell, today in the bay. >> thanks. we'll see if they get that later on today. the teenager who tried to blow up his high school and murder his former chemistry teacher. he was convicted of six felonies. he's pleaded guilty by reason of insanity. they claim he has schizophrenia. he knew the attack was wrong and d

kenneth starr's behavior was much more inappropriate than bill clinton's ever was. >> guest: obviously they felt very much about clinton the way they do about president obama and wanted to get rid of him and they would willing to do it that way they possibly could. from the time efforts were started to prosecute clinton, they were totally out of control. of a set earlier in the show i think people are going to be discussing this decades to come about the pros and cons of how bill clinton was treated. >> host: you are on quaid tour with this book unusual in "1 nation under sex: how the private lives of presidents, first ladies and their lovers changed the course of american history" is available in your book store or online bookseller is. why spend so much time talking about this? >> one of my main goals is to introduce history to the audience. if it takes something a little fallacious, it is great and this is a great primer for anyone to discuss the history because you're going to learn a lot more about sex lives and politics in foreign relations. >> host: we are -- you have a civil wa

. >> host: kenneth wollack, this book "family of freedom" is such a thousand piece of work. i enjoy the. you are talking about african-americans in the white house, all as members of the cabinet but also as servers, the enslaved people. tell us about what motivated you to do this. >> guest: a couple of things. as a white house correspondence i've covered the white house since 1986 full-time. you're always looking for giveaways to see the president, giveaways to get behind the curtain and the public relations and so on to see what they were really like. i've written four other books. what i try to do was fines and prison to look through to find something different. >> host: you really have. your book about the presidential retreat is fascinating because it is like your looking at a presidency but something you wouldn't pick up. >> guest: thank you. in this case i thought there was a very important and fascinating issue of race that was with us from the very beginning and the united states and how do presidents do with that both within the policies and attitudes and her dealin

. >> reporter: kenneth feinberg was appointed by both b.p. and the goverment to administer the fund. he says he is completely independent of both, but some people we talked to didn't think so. among them, walton kraver who attended one of feinberg's meetings last summer at bayou la batre, just across mobile bay from gulf shores. kraver owns several seafood- related businesses. >> we're running out of money quick, ok? and we have already closed one business, ok? >> i will check on that claim, even though i'm not up and running yet, and try and accelerate the payment of that claim. >> reporter: kraver's son, patrick, and daughter-in-law lillie say feinberg promised to personally get back to their family--but never did. >> mr. feinberg promised us personally at a meeting with my dad and he pointed his finger at him and mr. kraver he said you are directly affected we need to get you some money quick. six months later after we had to call him and say look this is getting out of hand we've got to have some money now and we submitted a figure that w

. >> host: kenneth walsh, the book family of freedom and such a fascinating piece of work. i really enjoyed it and was actually envious of you because you actually -- for talking about african-americans in the white house, both as cabinet also as the servers, the enslaved people. talk a bit about what motivated you to do this. >> a couple of things. as a white house correspondent i covered the white house since 1986. they're always looking for different ways to see the president, different ways to sort it behind the curtain and public relations and so on to see what they are really like. and i'd written four of the books and what i tried to do is find some prism to look at them through to find something different. >> if i might say you have come in your book about presidential retreat is fascinating because it is like you are looking at the presidency but something people wouldn't pick up. >> guest: thank you. in this case i thought there was this very important and fascinating issue of race from the very beginning in the united states of how to the president's deal with th

. ♪ >> host: kenneth walsh, this book, "family of freedom," is such a fascinating piece of work. really enjoyed it and was, actually, envious of you. because you're talking about african-americans in the white house both as members of the cabinet, but also as the servers, the enslaved people. >> guest: right. >> host: talk a bit about what motivated you to do this. >> guest: right. well, there are a couple of things. i've covered the white house since 1986 full time. you're always looking at different ways to see the president, different ways to sort of get behind the curtain and public relations and so on. i've written four other books, and i've tried to find some prism to look at them through -- >> host: and if i might say, you really have. your book about the presidential retreats is fascinating because it really is like you're looking at the presidency, but at something that people wouldn't pick up. >> guest: well, thank you. and in this case i thought there was this very important and fascinating issue of race that's been with us from the very beginning in the united states

. >> reporter: kenneth has been taking part in civil war re-enactments off and on for more than 50 yearsshow people what it was like on the battlefield in those days. >> reporter: when it's the civil war, 8th grade history teacher joe evans thinks assumptions are often made. >> it seems like civil war, war between the state re-enactors get the stigma that other re-enactors don't. i've never heard anybody who is a revolutionary war re-enactor accused of wanting to restart that war. but it's just this stigma that we have. it's got to be the slavery issue. >> reporter: 11 slave states seceded from the union. south carolina was the first. among their reasons states' rights in particular the right to own slaves. but some perspective here. americans remain divided over whether slavery was even the main cause of the civil war. according to a new poll conducted by the pew research center roughly four out of ten say slavery. nearly five out of ten say states' rights. >> you're going to come out here and there's a certain spirituality that pervades this place. >> reporter: slaves are buried here.

. >> next, a forum with the lawyers participated in the president clinton, kenneth starr case. at 7:00 a.m., your calls and comments on "washington journal." now, a look at the presidency of bill clinton and the investigations by counsel kenneth starr. .peakers include greg craig you also hear from ken gormley, author of the new book "the death of american virtue." the panel begins with an introduction by someone. this is an hour and 35 minutes. >> it is my pleasure to welcome you to the georgetown law center. when he was the justice department appointed regulatory council. there are a lot of books out on this. in american history, but i think we can be assured there is none exhaustiven ken's treatment. all laws that were involved would write to the index. i think all of us go in because it is extraordinary work. i will buy to introduce to you the moderator of this panel, john harris. john was the reporter who covered many of these events. he is the author of the critically acclaimed book "survivor." he is the founder and editor of political magazine. i cannot think of a better

i want to thank kenneth salazar, pat roberts, and everyone who joined forces to make this day possibleow there are others who participated. i was a walter reed hospital for 11 months last year, and i sort of missed all the action about who was working on this. if i miss anybody, i apologize. i want to recognize the more recent colleague, a distinguished public servant with a passionate commitment to veterans. we cochaired a commission on veteran care. i cannot tell you -- well, i cannot tell all of you what a worker she is. there is never a dull moment when you work with donna. when you work for donna. i got that wrong. [laughter] but i want to most of all thank the citizen soldiers, the farmers, factory workers, recent immigrants as the verse as america itself, for all you did to preserve civilization when it was most in danger. in my lifetime, i have seen walls go up and walls come down. i have seen planes flown into buildings and organizers confuse hatred and murder with martyrdom. but that is not all i have witnessed. for mine is a generation that banished polio and jim crow, inven

kenneth kimbrow and hundreds of others are now living inside of this shelter. >> my heart's hurting alreadyit could get any worse. >> reporter: but the thankers got their rescue escaping with their most precious possession. >> she's never been through anything like this. she was scared. >> reporter: that levee breach to the south of here actually brings relief to residents here in poplar bluff. all of that floodwater is now pouring into rural farmland. there are fewer people there but it makes rescues that much more difficult. >> all of that rain and more to come, as she said. well, here is your wednesday weather now. in addition to the tornados, look for hail and high winds from the gulf coast to the northeast. showers in the upper midwest and south dakota. and snow in minneapolis. up to a foot and a half of snow in the cascades and rockies and rain in the pacific northwest. >> 57 in portland. 73 in sacramento. and 60 in colorado springs. mostly 50s from omaha to detroit. 74 here in new york. 87 in the big easy. 73 in dallas. >>> and actress lindsay lohan is out on bail while her attorneys

. >> now look at the presidency of bill clinton and the investigations by independent counsel kenneth starr. from georgetown university law center in washington d.c., speakers include greg craig, former white house counsel to president clinton, as well as former independent counsel to the whitewater and monica lewinsky investigations. you will also hear from ken gormley, author of a new book "the debt of american virtue -- clinton versus start." the event was edited by the political editor in chief, and begins with julie o'sullivan. this is an hour and 35 minutes. >> it is my pleasure to welcome you to the georgetown law center. when he was the justice department appointed regulatory council. there are a lot of books out on this. in american history, but i think we can be assured there is none exhaustiven ken's treatment. all laws that were involved would write to the index. i think all of us go in because it is extraordinary work. i will buy to introduce to you the moderator of this panel, john harris. john was the reporter who covered many of these events. he is the author of the cr

kenneth starr case.ormer news anchor tom brokaw and vice president joe biden on bob dole. >> this weekend on american history television on c-span 3, an artist takes us back to the 19th century white house. and the constitutional effect of the election of 1800's. get the complete weekend schedule at c-span.org/history. >> this weekend on book tv on c- span 2, paul and julia child's career during world war ii. also this weekend, sarah vowell examines the americanization of hawaii. find the complete schedule at booktv.org. >> next tuesday marked the 20th anniversary of the chernobyl nuclear plant disaster in what was the soviet republic of the ukraine. it is considered the worst nuclear disaster in history. there was a forum looking at the history and its short and long term effects of the environment and public health. this is about two hours. >> distinguished participants, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for accepting the invitation and coming to the embassy of the ukraine for today's important event. i

the committee heard reports on the gulf oil spill and reports from the interior secretary kenneth l. lavar. -- ken salazar. recounting a career in the oss, and a fresh look at the legend of america's first presence in debunking several myths several centuries old. also, the americanization of hawaii, beginning with the arrival of missionaries in 1820. find a complete schedule on booktv.org. sign up for alerts. >> now, a discussion on the future of labor unions in america, hosted by a university. this is 1.5 hours. >> to start the program, what i am going to do if asked each of the panel we have got to take a minute, maybe two minutes max, and identify one dimension which is impacting it the movement today. we want to understand where the movement is today before talking about the future. talk about one item that is impacting the labor movement. it could be something impacting it positively, - 3, and would you like to start? >> yes. sure. thank you for having me here. one thing that is affecting the labor union -- labor movement right now, it is both positive and negative. to give sco

on november 22, 2010 i interviewed kenneth born. more information on the history of the capital city. >> can you imagine that the united states congress met in the capitol building of a state? >> this all changed in june of 1973. the soldiers demonstration was aimed at the state and knocked at congress. congress. at >> paul alexander hamilton was the founding father and wartime hero. >> alexander hamilton believed that the state of pennsylvania was the federal debt. >> hamilton said you have to call an emergency session of congress and get them into the pennsylvania state house before the soldiers get their or we will lose all kinds of jurisdiction in power. >> the emergency session was called and the congressman entered the building. >> they could argue the demonstration was against congress in the federal government's dignitaries had been insolvent. >> they agreed it pennsylvania did not call up the state militia, -- they agreed it pennsylvania did not collect state militia, congress would leave. he said i am not going to call up

on november 22, 2010 i interviewed kenneth born. for more information on the history of the capital city. >> can you imagine that the united states congress met in the capitol building of a state? >> this all changed in june of 1973. the soldiers demonstration was aimed at the state and knocked at congress. congress. at >> paul alexander hamilton was the founding father and wartime hero. >> alexander hamilton believed that the state of pennsylvania was the federal debt. >> hamilton said you have to call an emergency session of congress and get them into the pennsylvania state house before the soldiers get their or we will lose all kinds of jurisdiction in power. >> the emergency session was called and the congressman entered the building. >> they could argue the demonstration was against congress in the federal government's dignitaries had been insolvent. >> they agreed it pennsylvania did not call up the state militia, -- they agreed it pennsylvania did not collect state militia, congress would leave. he said i am not going to call

kenneth born, coeditor of the first project in the university and author of the creation of washingtond.c. for more afghanistan on the capitol city. >> can you imagine that the united states congress met in the capitol building of a state? >> this all changed in june 1783. >> when revolutionary war soldiers had not been paid gathered to protest -- >> it was aimed at the state, and not the congress. it was held in the state building. they created a special community to deal with this led by alexander hamilton. >> he was a founding father and wartime hero. >> he believed that if the state of pennsylvania paid the federal government's debt, they would lose power. >> he said you have to call an emergency session of congress and get them into this pennsylvania state house before the soldiers get there where we're going to lose all kinds of jurisdiction and power. >> the emergency session was called and the congressmen entered the building to use the situation to their advantage. >> they could argue that the demonstration was against congress and that the federal government's dignities were

a look at the presidency of bill clinton and the investigation by independent counsel kenneth starr. from georgetown university, speakers include the former white house special counsel to president clinton, as well as former independent counsel to the whitewater and monica lewinsky investigations. you'll also hear from ken gormley. the event was moderated by political editor in chief and begins with an introduction from georgetown law professor. this is an hour and 35 minutes. >> it is my pleasure to welcome you to the georgetown law center. when he was the justice department appointed regulatory council. there are a lot of books out on this. in american history, but i think we can be assured there is none exhaustiven ken's treatment. all laws that were involved would write to the index. i think all of us go in because it is extraordinary work. i will buy to introduce to you the moderator of this panel, john harris. john was the reporter who covered many of these events. he is the author of the critically acclaimed book "survivor." he is the founder and editor of political magazine.

consuming -- >> the presidency of william jefferson clinton and investigations by independent counsel kenneth are the topic of conversation underway at the georgetown university law center here in washington d.c. the event is being moderated by politico editor-in-chief, john harris. >> i'm hoping that we'll get a chance to explore those photos in a vigorous way today both with some lively back and forth between our panelists, they have very different perspectives -- at least did at the time. i'd be surprised if they still don't. but maybe we'll find some surprising convergence and agreement, but i'd like to see some vigorous back and forth between the panelists. we do hope as the afternoon continues to hear from you in the audience with your questions. so anyway, i'd like to introduce several people who i think are not going to need a lot of introduction from this audience. we'll start down at this end. robert fisk, of course, is remembered as the first white water independent counsel. before there was ken starr, there was mr. fisk who came, was appointed in her -- to his job. he actually was