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he did say that murray was upset that kenny ortega didn't have michael jackson rehearse and told him top being, quote, an amateur doctor, basically telling ortega to direct the show and leave the doctoring to him, conrad murray. ortega said in court that murray assured him that jackson was physically capable of handling this show and this tour, anderson. >> randi, thank you very much. here's michael jackson at his last rehearsal two days before he died. what do you see when you see the video. does it show a healthy man or an addict hanging by a thread. and i know a thing or two about fast. i purchased 3 homes with quicken loans. i wouldn't use anyone else. there were no hidden fees and no surprises. quicken loans is a lot like me -- we're both engineered to amaze. >>> more now on the michael jackson death trial. before jackson's death in 2009 propofol wasn't what you call a household word. but it was widely known in medical circles as a powerful anesthetic used for surgery. in fact, only used for surgery. the fact that jackson was using it outside a medical setting shocked a lot of do
he did say that murray was upset that kenny ortega didn't have michael jackson rehearse and told him top being, quote, an amateur doctor, basically telling ortega to direct the show and leave the doctoring to him, conrad murray. ortega said in court that murray assured him that jackson was physically capable of handling this show and this tour, anderson. >> randi, thank you very much. here's michael jackson at his last rehearsal two days before he died. what do you see when you see the...
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what you'll hear from kenny ortega is that conrad murray took a very hostile tone, he scalded kenny ortegain what evidently was conrad murray's area of expertise. he said things such as, i am the doctor, not you. you direct the show and leave michael's health to me. he said michael is physically and emotionally fine. don't let it be your concern. i am the doctor. following this meeting of june 20th, rehearsals did not take place that day, the 21st or the 22nd. but they did resume on june 23rd, 2009. and you'll see footage of michael performing on june 23rd, 2009. and by all accounts it was a successful rehearsal at the staples center. michael appeared strong. he was optimistic. and he was looking to the future. and he was looking to get the tour off the ground and head out to london. the following night, rehearsals resumed again. that's june 24th, 2009. and again, the rehearsal went well and michael was engaged and optimistic. in fact, you'll hear from kenny ortega that michael was excited because the next day they were going to be performing an illusion that was going to be part of the to
what you'll hear from kenny ortega is that conrad murray took a very hostile tone, he scalded kenny ortegain what evidently was conrad murray's area of expertise. he said things such as, i am the doctor, not you. you direct the show and leave michael's health to me. he said michael is physically and emotionally fine. don't let it be your concern. i am the doctor. following this meeting of june 20th, rehearsals did not take place that day, the 21st or the 22nd. but they did resume on june 23rd,...
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he did say that murray was upset that kenny ortega didn't have michael jackson rehearse and told him g, quote, an amateur doctor, basically telling ortega to direct the show and leave the doctoring to him, conrad murray. ortega said in court that murray assured him that jackson was physically capable of handling this show and this tour, anderson. >> randi, thank you very much. more on the trial ahead, it continue with michael jackson, one of his last rehearsals. does it show a healthy man to you or an addict hanging by a threat? dr. sanjay gupta, marsha clark and jeffrey toobin join us in a moment. the two trains and a bus rider. the "i'll sleep when it's done" academic. for 80 years, we've been inspired by you. and we've been honored to walk with you to help you get where you want to be. ♪ because your moment is now. let nothing stand in your way. learn more at keller.edu. but not in my neighborhood. ♪ [ female announcer ] we're throwing away misperceptions about natural gas vehicles. more of the vehicles that fuel our lives use clean american natural gas today. it costs about 40 per
he did say that murray was upset that kenny ortega didn't have michael jackson rehearse and told him g, quote, an amateur doctor, basically telling ortega to direct the show and leave the doctoring to him, conrad murray. ortega said in court that murray assured him that jackson was physically capable of handling this show and this tour, anderson. >> randi, thank you very much. more on the trial ahead, it continue with michael jackson, one of his last rehearsals. does it show a healthy man...
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he did say that murray was upset that kenny ortega didn't have michael jackson rehearse and told him top being, quote, an amateur doctor, basically telling ortega to direct the show and leave the doctoring to him, conrad murray. ortega said in court that murray assured him that jackson was physically capable of handling this show and this tour, anderson. >> randi, thank you very much. more on the trial ahead, it continue with michael jackson, one of his last rehearsals. does it show a healthy man to you or an addict hanging by a threat? dr. sanjay gupta, marsha clark and jeffrey toobin join us in a moment. naomi pryce: i am. i'm in the name your own price division. i find empty hotel rooms and help people save - >> - up to 60% off. i am familiar. your name? > naomi pryce. >> what other "negotiating" skills do you have? > i'm a fifth-degree black belt. >> as am i. > i'm fluent in 37 languages. >> (indistinct clicking) > and i'm a master of disguise >> as am i. > as am i. >> as am i. > as am i. >> well played naomi pryce. [ grandpa ] relationships are the basis of everything. [ grandma
he did say that murray was upset that kenny ortega didn't have michael jackson rehearse and told him top being, quote, an amateur doctor, basically telling ortega to direct the show and leave the doctoring to him, conrad murray. ortega said in court that murray assured him that jackson was physically capable of handling this show and this tour, anderson. >> randi, thank you very much. more on the trial ahead, it continue with michael jackson, one of his last rehearsals. does it show a...
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abc's diana alvear was there. >> reporter: the first witness, choreographer kenny ortega testified hewas concerned about his long time friend michael jackson's health in the days leading to his death. >> he said i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor, psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: prosecutors painted murray as a cash greedy man with no concern for the health of his patient. >> dr. murray's repeated incompetent and unskilled acts that led to mr. jackson's death. >> reporter: prosecutors played an audio recording they said they found on jackson's phone. >> reporter: they say it is the superstar talking about his upcoming tour while under the influence of powerful drugs they say were given to him by murray. the court also heard part of murray's interview with police where the physician first mentioned jackson requesting powerful anesthetic propofol. >> reporter: prosecutors told the court, propofol should only be used during surgery never as a sleep aid. as murray wept, defense attorneys said their client did not kill the king of p
abc's diana alvear was there. >> reporter: the first witness, choreographer kenny ortega testified hewas concerned about his long time friend michael jackson's health in the days leading to his death. >> he said i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor, psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: prosecutors painted murray as a cash greedy man with no concern for the health of his patient. >> dr. murray's repeated incompetent and...
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they'll take the break here and we expect the first witness to be kenny ortega, the producer of "this is it," the guy that was responsible for working with michael jackson to launch these shows that were going to take place in london. and what prosecutors will ask ortega to do for this jury is to document jackson in his -- and his health in the days leading up to his death. and specifically they'll want him to testify about jackson's health the day that he died. ortega in the preliminary hearing said he was in fine health, great health. the prosecution will allege that it was that propofol that lethal dose that took an otherwise fairly healthy 50-year-old jackson and killed him in an instant. >> ted rowlands at the beginning of a very long trial. we'll look forward to your reports all throughout. >>> meanwhile, we want to tell you that just ahead dr. sanjay gupta will break down how propofol affects the body. >>> how would you like to have this guy's job? he's repelling off a national treasure all because of the damage caused by this. that's the shaking and rattling of an earthquake u
they'll take the break here and we expect the first witness to be kenny ortega, the producer of "this is it," the guy that was responsible for working with michael jackson to launch these shows that were going to take place in london. and what prosecutors will ask ortega to do for this jury is to document jackson in his -- and his health in the days leading up to his death. and specifically they'll want him to testify about jackson's health the day that he died. ortega in the...
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. >> reporter: first on the stand choreographer, kenny ortega. exy dr.urray brushed off his concerns that jackson looked ill and weak telling him the star's health was not his business. also on the witness less jackson's two oldest children. prince and paris saw paramedics trying to resuscitate their father. >> first of all, you don't know what they are going to say, they are kids. second, the fact that whoever calls them is the one who is forcing them in a way to recount some very difficult moments. >> reporter: also on the witness list, jackson's bodyguard who has previously testified dr. murray asked him to gather the i.v. bag and medicine vials and hide them before calling for an ambulance. diana avellar, abc7 news los angeles. >> we are streaming the entire trial on our website abc7news.com. >>> today a delaware bankruptcy judge refused to extend the timeline for solyndra. attorneys for the company and department of energy won an auction on october 27th. solyndra's official creditors committee argued that timeline does not give potential bidders eno
. >> reporter: first on the stand choreographer, kenny ortega. exy dr.urray brushed off his concerns that jackson looked ill and weak telling him the star's health was not his business. also on the witness less jackson's two oldest children. prince and paris saw paramedics trying to resuscitate their father. >> first of all, you don't know what they are going to say, they are kids. second, the fact that whoever calls them is the one who is forcing them in a way to recount some very...
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then when kenny ortega, first witness was up there, there's a question about arnold kline. they're going to plant the seed in the jury that it wasn't just propofol, it was demerol and plastic surgery and this other doctor who is not here. y they can point some of the blame that way. watch for that to be a constant theme. >> ted, thank you. we'll talk to you later now i want to bring this his longtime friend kathy hilton. a very, very difficult day, i would imagine, for you as his friend and for the family to see these pictures of michael lying dead. i found quite shocking. and the audio tape of him in an almost zombie-like condition perhaps even more so. what was your reaction to those two things? >> i saw that this morning, and when i heard the tape, i could not believe what i was hearing. i was -- i had never heard anything like that before with anyone. i mean, if that doesn't show you, don't you think that was enough? >> yeah, what does it show you, though, given that it was taken -- the recording was made in may before he died, two months or so before he died. what does
then when kenny ortega, first witness was up there, there's a question about arnold kline. they're going to plant the seed in the jury that it wasn't just propofol, it was demerol and plastic surgery and this other doctor who is not here. y they can point some of the blame that way. watch for that to be a constant theme. >> ted, thank you. we'll talk to you later now i want to bring this his longtime friend kathy hilton. a very, very difficult day, i would imagine, for you as his friend...
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. >> the first witness to take the stand, choreographer kenny ortega.e testified that he told conrad murray he was concerned about his friend michael jackson's health in the days leading to his death jie. he said, i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and allow michael's health to him. >> earlier prosecutors painted murray as a cash greedy man with no concern of the help of his patient. >> dr. murray's repeated incompetent and unskilled acts that lead to mr. jackson's death. >> prosecutors played an audio recording they said they found on jackson's phone. >> [inaudible] >> they say it is the superstar talking about his upcoming tour while under the influence of powerful drug thees say were given to him by murray. the court also heard part of murray's interview with police when the physician first mentioned jackson requesting the powerful anesthetic propofol. >> prosecutors told the court propofol should only be used during surgery, never as a sleep aide. as murray wept, defense attorneys say their client did not kill the king of pop. >> michael j
. >> the first witness to take the stand, choreographer kenny ortega.e testified that he told conrad murray he was concerned about his friend michael jackson's health in the days leading to his death jie. he said, i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and allow michael's health to him. >> earlier prosecutors painted murray as a cash greedy man with no concern of the help of his patient. >> dr. murray's repeated incompetent and unskilled acts that lead to mr. jackson's...
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. >> reporter: then the first witness took the stand, kenny ortega, jackson's concert director who said he voiced concerns over jackson's health to dr. murray. >> he said, i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: six days later, jackson was dead. and now more than two years later, the trial against his personal doctor is under way. stephanie stanton, nbc news, los angeles. >>> now here's a look at some other stories making news "early today" in america. a michigan man is relying on surveillance video in his suit against two police officers who escorted him out of a casino. the video shows one cop punched the man in the face, knocking him to the ground where he continues punching him. assault charges initially filed by the officers were later dropped after the prosecutor viewed the tape. >>> in texas firefighters >>> an underground gas leak set a road on fire in northern california last night. firefighters were called to the scene after a four-inch gas line set a major intersection ablaze, forcing tr
. >> reporter: then the first witness took the stand, kenny ortega, jackson's concert director who said he voiced concerns over jackson's health to dr. murray. >> he said, i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: six days later, jackson was dead. and now more than two years later, the trial against his personal doctor is under way. stephanie stanton, nbc news, los angeles. >>> now...
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. >> we have heard from kenny ortega, michael jackson's choreographer. he worked very closely with the singer on "this is it" tour. it was to be as big comeback, starting in london a few days after he died. he had been working closely with michael jackson. he was so concerned that he wrote an e-mail to all the other people close to michael jackson that he thought he physically was not able to go through with the rehearsals. on one particular day, the rehearsals had to be canceled because of his weak state of help. he was very concerned that if something was not done, he would not be able to go through with the concert. that is one example. the other example was the audio recording that we just heard of michael jackson's own voice sounding incoherent and slurred. they are painting a picture of a man that was seemingly in the bad help. >> a wisteria outbreak has infected 72 people in the united states and killed a 13. the u.s. centers for disease control and prevention said that so far, 18 states have reported infections from one of the four strains of wis
. >> we have heard from kenny ortega, michael jackson's choreographer. he worked very closely with the singer on "this is it" tour. it was to be as big comeback, starting in london a few days after he died. he had been working closely with michael jackson. he was so concerned that he wrote an e-mail to all the other people close to michael jackson that he thought he physically was not able to go through with the rehearsals. on one particular day, the rehearsals had to be...
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. >> reporter: then, onto the first witness of the trial, kenny ortega, the director of jackson's "this is it" concert, painting a happier picture of a michael jackson he spoke to just one day before his death. >> michael was feeling great, he looked at me and asked if i was happy, i said i was happy. he said he was very happy. >> recall him saying that he felt the dream, or words to that effect? >> yes, he felt like we were accomplishing the dream. >> reporter: and that was just the first day of the trial expected to last six weeks. for "nightline," jim avila, abc news, los angeles. >> we will, of course, continue to monitor that trial. >>> and just ahead, the loose micele thre missile threat one senator calls our worst nightmare. [ male announcer ] a raw nose can feel really sore. achoo! [ male announcer ] and common tissue can make it burn even more. puffs plus lotion is more soothing than common tissue, and it delivers our most soothing lotion for every nose issue. [ sniffles ] not sure what to take? now click on the robitussin relief finder at robitussin.com. click on your symptoms
. >> reporter: then, onto the first witness of the trial, kenny ortega, the director of jackson's "this is it" concert, painting a happier picture of a michael jackson he spoke to just one day before his death. >> michael was feeling great, he looked at me and asked if i was happy, i said i was happy. he said he was very happy. >> recall him saying that he felt the dream, or words to that effect? >> yes, he felt like we were accomplishing the dream. >>...
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. >> reporter: first on the stand choreographer, kenny ortega. expected to testify dr.rray brushed off his concerns that jackson looked ill and weak telling him the star's health was not his business. also on the witness less jackson's two oldest children. prince and paris saw paramedics trying to resuscitate their father. >> first of all, you don't know what they are going to say, they are kids. second, the fact that whoever calls them is the one who is forcing them in a way to recount some very difficult moments. >> reporter: also on the witness list, jackson's bodyguard who has previously testified dr. murray asked him to gather the i.v. bag and medicine vials and hide them before calling for an ambulance. diana avellar, abc7 news los angeles. >> we are streaming the entire trial on our website abc7news.com. >>> today a delaware bankruptcy judge refused to extend the timeline for solyndra. attorneys for the company and department of energy won an auction on october 27th. solyndra's official creditors committee argued that timeline does not give potential bidders enou
. >> reporter: first on the stand choreographer, kenny ortega. expected to testify dr.rray brushed off his concerns that jackson looked ill and weak telling him the star's health was not his business. also on the witness less jackson's two oldest children. prince and paris saw paramedics trying to resuscitate their father. >> first of all, you don't know what they are going to say, they are kids. second, the fact that whoever calls them is the one who is forcing them in a way to...
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they are supposed to call kenny ortega, he was the producer he was working with before he died. >>> on friday the department of health released their new tobacco purchase survey. 5.7% of the time down from 7.7% last year, the health department of credits it from enforcement, education and public opinion against teen smoking for the drop. >>> people charged with crimes now have the option to pray their crime away. people found guilty of misdemeanor a choice between jail or praying, it will direct people down the right path. >> we believe it is the right program and we will stick with it and move forward with it. >> they have the option of attending church once a week for a year and will be required to check in with pastors and the police department. they should not be combining government and religion. >>> just this morning, rock 'n' roll hall of fame announced nominees for 2012, joan jet, the cure and heart. production includes beastie boys, red hot chilly peppers and to qualify they must have released its precinctel 25 years ago. new members will be inducted in april at the hall in cl
they are supposed to call kenny ortega, he was the producer he was working with before he died. >>> on friday the department of health released their new tobacco purchase survey. 5.7% of the time down from 7.7% last year, the health department of credits it from enforcement, education and public opinion against teen smoking for the drop. >>> people charged with crimes now have the option to pray their crime away. people found guilty of misdemeanor a choice between jail or...
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choreographer and director kenny ortega worked with the singer on his comeback tour and will take the stand as the prosecution's first witness. jackson's family, who wanted murray charged with murder will be in the front row. >> your honor, i am an innocent man. >> reporter: it's still unclear whether murray himself will testify. if convicted, he could face up to four years in prison and lose his medical license. and in the last few months, the judge has denied a number of different defense requests, including one to have jackson's former doctor testify. the defense wanted him to testify to prove that jackson was addicted to drugs. >> what do we know about the jury in this case? >> you know, the jury is a reflection of los angeles. about half hispanic, half are white and one black woman. half of them, surprisingly, say they were michael jackson fans, including one woman who says that she grew up loving his music. terrell. >> dendis gibson, cbs news. thank you. >>> coming, $200 million in sunken treasurer. i can't even say it without smiling. we'll show you where it is. >>> plus, no ta
choreographer and director kenny ortega worked with the singer on his comeback tour and will take the stand as the prosecution's first witness. jackson's family, who wanted murray charged with murder will be in the front row. >> your honor, i am an innocent man. >> reporter: it's still unclear whether murray himself will testify. if convicted, he could face up to four years in prison and lose his medical license. and in the last few months, the judge has denied a number of different...
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. >> reporter: the first witness to take thei7+bx stand choreographer kenny ortega. he testified he told dr. murray he was concerned about michael jackson's health in the days leading up to his death. >> he said i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: prosecutors pained murray as a cash greedy man. -- >> dr. murray's repeated incompetent and unskilled acts lead to mr. jackson's death. >> reporter: prosecutors played an audio recording they said they found on jackson's phone. [ unintelligible ] . >> reporter: they say it is the superstar talking about his upcoming tour while under the influence of powerful drug3.ñ#z they say were given to him by murray. the court heard murray's interview with list where he mentioned jackson requesting propofol. >> reporter: prosecutors told the court propofol should only be used during surgery, never as a sleep aid. as murray wept defense attorneys said their client did not kill the king of pop. >> michael jackson self-administered a dose of prop
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. >> the first witness to take the stand, choreographer kenny ortega.stified that he told conrad murray he was concerned about his friend michael jackson's health in the days leading to his death jie. he said, i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and allow michael's health to him. >> earlier prosecutors painted murray as a cash greedy man with no concern of the help of his patient. >> dr. murray's repeated incompetent and unskilled acts that lead to mr. jackson's death. >> prosecutors played an audio recording they said they found on jackson's phone. >> [inaudible] >> they say it is the superstar talking about his upcoming tour while under the influence of powerful drug thees say were given to him by murray. the court also heard part of murray's interview with police when the physician first mentioned jackson requesting the powerful anesthetic propofol. >> prosecutors told the court propofol should only be used during surgery, never as a sleep aide. as murray wept, defense attorneys say their client did not kill the king of pop. >> michael jacks
. >> the first witness to take the stand, choreographer kenny ortega.stified that he told conrad murray he was concerned about his friend michael jackson's health in the days leading to his death jie. he said, i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and allow michael's health to him. >> earlier prosecutors painted murray as a cash greedy man with no concern of the help of his patient. >> dr. murray's repeated incompetent and unskilled acts that lead to mr. jackson's...
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. >> reporter: then the first witness took the stand, kenny ortega, jackson's concert director who said he voiced concerns over jackson's health to dr. murray. >> he said, i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: six days later, jackson was dead. and now more than two years later, the trial against his personal doctor is under way. stephanie stanton, nbc news, los angeles. >>> the education nation summit in new york city wrapped up yesterday following two days of discussion on improving the nation's school system. it focused on long term solutions such as making changes in education funding and standardized programs. as well as proven strategies educators can put to work in the classroom right away. michelle franzen has more. >> reporter: on the final day of the summit, panelists tackled the tough subjects of school reform, no child left behind, and the urgent need to make sure u.s. students can compete in a global economy. president bill clinton rounded out the summit and says despite all the hurdl
. >> reporter: then the first witness took the stand, kenny ortega, jackson's concert director who said he voiced concerns over jackson's health to dr. murray. >> he said, i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: six days later, jackson was dead. and now more than two years later, the trial against his personal doctor is under way. stephanie stanton, nbc news, los angeles. >>> the...
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. >> yes, we have heard from kenny ortega was michael jackson's choreographer. he worked very closely with the singer on the "this is it" concert tour which was to be michael jackson's comeback starting in london a few days and afterh he died. he was so concerned that he wrote an email to all the other people close to michael jackson that he felt he physically was not able to go through with the rehearsals. reversals had to be canceled because of michael's weak state of health. he was concerned that something was not done, perhaps michael jackson would not be able to go through with the concert. that is one example. there was the other example of the audio recording that we just heard of michael jackson's own voice sounding incoherent and slurred in a message you left for his doctor. they are painting a picture of a man who was seemingly verin ill health. >> markets have risen sharply as hopes increase about a new plan to deal with the euro-zone debt crisis. there is speculation that the european bailout fund would be expanded with the help of the european centr
. >> yes, we have heard from kenny ortega was michael jackson's choreographer. he worked very closely with the singer on the "this is it" concert tour which was to be michael jackson's comeback starting in london a few days and afterh he died. he was so concerned that he wrote an email to all the other people close to michael jackson that he felt he physically was not able to go through with the rehearsals. reversals had to be canceled because of michael's weak state of health....
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the prosecution's first witness is expected to be jackson's friend kenny ortega, choreographer and director of the concert tour the singer was rehearsing for. >> what he will testify to is that michael jackson was in good health. he showed no signs of suicidal tendencies. >> reporter: murray has said the truth will prevail but it's not clear if the defense will call him to the stand. murray faces up to four years in prison if convicted. elizabeth sanchez for cbs news, los angeles. >>> dr. murray's trial is expected to last between three and section weeks. >>> police say they have no choice but to kill two dogs in san mateo. the boxer dogs had apparently escaped from a nearby backyard and as stephanie chuang tells us, officers were concerned about the threats to children as well as adults. >> reporter: san mateo police got the frantic 911 call just after 4:00 yesterday afternoon. two boxers dogs loose that nothing over a young girl and -- that knocked over a younger and attacked her young dog in a park. they were fine but police didn't want to risk the safety of dozens of others including yo
the prosecution's first witness is expected to be jackson's friend kenny ortega, choreographer and director of the concert tour the singer was rehearsing for. >> what he will testify to is that michael jackson was in good health. he showed no signs of suicidal tendencies. >> reporter: murray has said the truth will prevail but it's not clear if the defense will call him to the stand. murray faces up to four years in prison if convicted. elizabeth sanchez for cbs news, los angeles....
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the prosecution's first witness is expected to be jackson's friend, kenny ortega, choreographer and director of the concert tour the singer was rehearsing for. >> what he will testify to is that michael jackson was in good health. he showed no signs of suicidal tendencies. >> reporter: murray has said the truth will eventually prevail. but it is not clear if the defense will call him to the stand. murray faces up to four years in prison if convicted. elizabeth sanchez for cbs news, los angeles. >>> of all the ads on all the street corners and buildings, parents say that one crosses the line. not so much what it shows as where it is. why now a lot of kids are going to be on the move. >>> the last time this helicopter evacuated injured patients was in the vietnam war. that is, until the reno air races crash. the man behind the controls has quite a story to tell. ,,,,,, were chaotic for those on the of men >>> the moments after the september 16 reno plane crash were chaotic for those on the ground but a group of men watching the events were unique le qualified to help in the aftermath. ann nota
the prosecution's first witness is expected to be jackson's friend, kenny ortega, choreographer and director of the concert tour the singer was rehearsing for. >> what he will testify to is that michael jackson was in good health. he showed no signs of suicidal tendencies. >> reporter: murray has said the truth will eventually prevail. but it is not clear if the defense will call him to the stand. murray faces up to four years in prison if convicted. elizabeth sanchez for cbs news,...
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the first, kenny ortega, the director of michael jackson's last tour, who broke down while testifying about the moment he heard that michael jackson was dead. diane? >> day one of the trial with abc's jim avila reporting in. thank you so much, jim. >>> and we turn to other news now. new calls tonight to step up protection for u.s. passenger planes, after word that thousands of missiles may be on the loose. the heat-seeking kind of missiles that may have disappeared in the middle of the chaos in libya. after a secret white house meeting, a race to find them. and we get that story from abc's chief investigative correspondent brian ross. >>> reporter: just one of these missiles in the wrong hands could be a disaster. as seen in this u.s. army test of an american-made missile locking in on a small aircraft. >> matching up a terrorist with a shoulder-fired missile, that's our worst nightmare. >> reporter: and now that nightmare may be getting closer to reality. officials at a recent secret white house meeting were told that of the 20,000 of these portable missiles that libya had before the
the first, kenny ortega, the director of michael jackson's last tour, who broke down while testifying about the moment he heard that michael jackson was dead. diane? >> day one of the trial with abc's jim avila reporting in. thank you so much, jim. >>> and we turn to other news now. new calls tonight to step up protection for u.s. passenger planes, after word that thousands of missiles may be on the loose. the heat-seeking kind of missiles that may have disappeared in the middle...
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the first prosecution witness expected later on today is kenny ortega. he's the choreographer and co-creator of the tour. he was so concerned about the singer's health that he settle him home erly from one of those final rehearsals and that he had a meeting with dr. murray at michael jackson's home. to express his concerns and dr. murray told him not to worry and not to try to blame michael jackson's doctor and getting under way. so far we're expecting it to begin about 15 minutes ago and so the crowd out here waiting and, of course, family inside now watching to see what will happen as opening statements get under way, craig? >> if he's convicted, what does he face. and it would also lose his medical license. kristin dahlgren from los angeles where she will be stationed for the next several weeks. thank you, kristin, appreciate that. >>> real action movie stuff. some amazing pictures on the left there. those are not superheroes or spies. those are structural engineers rappelling down the washington monument. they are checking that monument for cracks an
the first prosecution witness expected later on today is kenny ortega. he's the choreographer and co-creator of the tour. he was so concerned about the singer's health that he settle him home erly from one of those final rehearsals and that he had a meeting with dr. murray at michael jackson's home. to express his concerns and dr. murray told him not to worry and not to try to blame michael jackson's doctor and getting under way. so far we're expecting it to begin about 15 minutes ago and so...
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you will hear from kenny ortega, a co-choreographer of the "this is it" production.ll hear from part of the production team for "this is it." what they will tell you is that michael jackson had not performed for ten years, and this particular series of concerts, these shows, were going to be his absolution. he needed to do these shows. they were going to tell you that he was intimately involved in every aspect of the production. i don't know what impression you came in with about michael jackson. he wasn't just brilliant artistically, he was a smart man. he was involved in every aspect of that production, the dance, the music. he chose the songs. he wrote the songs. the effects, the 3d effects in the show, the movie clips, these we were his, this was his show. this was how michael jackson was going to be remembered. it doesn't matter what happened in the past. this was going to be his memory. he needed to do these shows. randy phillips will tell you that it was not just going to end with "this is it." the contract provided that, if he were to complete these shows, if
you will hear from kenny ortega, a co-choreographer of the "this is it" production.ll hear from part of the production team for "this is it." what they will tell you is that michael jackson had not performed for ten years, and this particular series of concerts, these shows, were going to be his absolution. he needed to do these shows. they were going to tell you that he was intimately involved in every aspect of the production. i don't know what impression you came in with...
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. >> reporter: the first witness to take the stand, choreographer, kenny ortega.testified that he told dr. murray he was concerned about his friend's health in the days leading up to his death. >> he said i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: earlier prosecutors pained -- painted murray as a cash greedy man. >> dr. murray's repeated, incompetent and unskilled acts lead to mr. jackson's death. >> reporter: prosecutors played an audio they said they phone on jackson's phone. [ unintelligible ] >> reporter: they say it the superstar talking about his upcoming tour while the of powerful drugs they say were given to him by murray. the court heard part of murray's interview with police. >> reporter: prosecutors told the court propofol should own be used during surgery, never as a sleep aid. as murray wept defense attorneys said their client did not kill the king of pop. >> michael jackson self-administered a dose of propofol, that created a perfect storm in his body. that killed
. >> reporter: the first witness to take the stand, choreographer, kenny ortega.testified that he told dr. murray he was concerned about his friend's health in the days leading up to his death. >> he said i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: earlier prosecutors pained -- painted murray as a cash greedy man. >> dr. murray's repeated, incompetent and unskilled acts lead to mr....
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we saw kenny ortega on the stand. >> he doesn't talk about the actual death itself. en you're talking about gross negligence or recklessness, the standard is so undefined that hearing from someone like ortega, talk about the fact that he had gone to dr. murray and warned him about the situation. dr. murray blows him off. i do think that becomes very important in a case like this. >> what stood out to you most in the opening statements? >> from the prosecution, the amount of propofol. hundreds and hundreds of bottles of propofol. again, this is a drug that's not supposed to be administered for sleep. from the defense, on the other hand, i was struck by the fact they're taking a very aggressive position. they're saying, he didn't die from the propofol. he died when dr. murray stopped giving him propofol. >> isn't that risky? >> that is a little risky. their take is he was try ing to wean him off of propofol. and in essence, jackson was trying to prevent dr. murray from doing it. but to say he died from stop giving him propofol, very aggressive position. >> i have to tel
we saw kenny ortega on the stand. >> he doesn't talk about the actual death itself. en you're talking about gross negligence or recklessness, the standard is so undefined that hearing from someone like ortega, talk about the fact that he had gone to dr. murray and warned him about the situation. dr. murray blows him off. i do think that becomes very important in a case like this. >> what stood out to you most in the opening statements? >> from the prosecution, the amount of...
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think, to call these kids to the witness stand. >> we know, dan, going to the witness stand first, kenny ortegaelped co-create the tour that michael jackson was going to go on. why put him on first? >> the teams are going to go chronologically. they're going to start with ortega, who claims he warned dr. murray weeks beforehand, that he thought michael jackson wasn't well. and that conrad murray blew it off. that ortega is not a doctor. prosecutors want to show that this was reckless conduct. that he behaved in a way an ordinary person, an ordinary doctor can't, shouldn't have. and ortega is the beginning of that account. >> going in chronological order like that. mark, you are a noted defense attorney. what would your strategy be? how would you approach this? >> i think if they were going to handle this in a way that makes the most sense, they're not going to try to vilify michael. i think they have to talk about the fact that he has an issue. and they have to cast this as dr. murray being somebody who wanted to wean him off, who wanted to try to do what he could to minister to him, literally,
think, to call these kids to the witness stand. >> we know, dan, going to the witness stand first, kenny ortegaelped co-create the tour that michael jackson was going to go on. why put him on first? >> the teams are going to go chronologically. they're going to start with ortega, who claims he warned dr. murray weeks beforehand, that he thought michael jackson wasn't well. and that conrad murray blew it off. that ortega is not a doctor. prosecutors want to show that this was...
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kenny ortega has been with michael jackson for 20 years. even produced his funeral at the staples center and other high-pro file things and produced most of michael jackson's tours. can we talk about the jury? do you want to know about the jury? >> yes. >> reporter: let's talk about the jury. you may have some questions about this. seven men, five women. a lot of people are thinking this is important. six white, five hispanic, one african-american. some say, why one african-american? as they say, it's not race. both of the people here involved are african-american and they don't look at this as a race case, you know, that may have racial overtones to it. it's going to be interesting to hear. >> they could end up being very famous jurors at some point. this is going to be a case everybody in the country is looking at. you've covered it a lot, don. you'll be able to interpret as we go along. don lemon in los angeles this morning as the conrad murray case opens up. we'll talk to you later. >>> for complete statements about the trial check out
kenny ortega has been with michael jackson for 20 years. even produced his funeral at the staples center and other high-pro file things and produced most of michael jackson's tours. can we talk about the jury? do you want to know about the jury? >> yes. >> reporter: let's talk about the jury. you may have some questions about this. seven men, five women. a lot of people are thinking this is important. six white, five hispanic, one african-american. some say, why one...
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later in the day, prosecutors called their first witness, kenny ortega.irector and choreographer before jackson's "this is it" tour. prosecutors attempted to show that jackson appeared in good health. they played this rehearsal clip in court. ♪ >> what was his demeanor and condition on tuesday, june 23rd? >> he entered into rehearsal full of energy, full of desire to work. full of enthusiasm. and it was a different michael. >> reporter: two days later, michael jackson was dead. randi kaye, cnn, los angeles. >>> be sure to check out our sister network hln for in-depth coverage and analysis of the trial of dr. conrad murray. your place for coverage throughout the entire day. >>> the latest poll shows that american s trust the governme is an all-time low. >>> well, our cnn in-depth series continues on our broken government. how do average americans see it? our latest cnn/orc poll shows your trust in the federal government is now at an all-time low. just 15% of you trust the government to do what's right always or most of the time. so, what's the solution? au
later in the day, prosecutors called their first witness, kenny ortega.irector and choreographer before jackson's "this is it" tour. prosecutors attempted to show that jackson appeared in good health. they played this rehearsal clip in court. ♪ >> what was his demeanor and condition on tuesday, june 23rd? >> he entered into rehearsal full of energy, full of desire to work. full of enthusiasm. and it was a different michael. >> reporter: two days later, michael...
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the first witness for the defense is kenny ortega. the choreographer said he was so concerned about the singer's health he sent him home early from the rehearsals and he had a meeting with dr. murray in the final days. and he told him not to try to act like jackson's doctor. ortega will walk the jury through some of the footage of this tour to the jurors are the only ones that have said they've seen any of that movie. this trial expected to take five weeks. dr. murray faces four years and would lose his license if convicted, thomas. >> nbc's kristen dahlgren. thanks for that update from l.a. and we'll keep you posted and we get more information later in the show. the jackson family will be arriving there for the court proceedings that start this morning. >>> an inside look at teachers struggling to do the best job that they can. struggling to survive on their salaries. and a new documentary argues that our nation's three million plus educators are undervalued and underpaid. a look at the film which premiered at the education nation su
the first witness for the defense is kenny ortega. the choreographer said he was so concerned about the singer's health he sent him home early from the rehearsals and he had a meeting with dr. murray in the final days. and he told him not to try to act like jackson's doctor. ortega will walk the jury through some of the footage of this tour to the jurors are the only ones that have said they've seen any of that movie. this trial expected to take five weeks. dr. murray faces four years and would...
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. >> do you recall during the dangerous tour that kenny ortega was also involved?ake over. >>> we will continue to monitoring this. you are listening to the proceed innovation the michael jackson case and of course against dr. conrad murray. this is the "this is it" tour manager being questioned. >>> first off it is none of your business. i don't and where you send your kids to school. don't bother me. >> take the bat out on her for once. and you know what, and you know what, let me tell you this, you know what, it's people who raise their voices and yell and scream like you that are divided this country. >> you must be the thinnest-skinned guy in america. you think that is a confrontational tone. you should see men we i'm pissed. >> it's time for the flip side, a look behind the headlines. a closer look at chris christie's policies shows he may not be the social conservative savior that many are clamoring for. he says that america needs a clear path to citizenship but he took aim at rick perry for offering tuition to the chimpb of immigrants. >> i want every child
. >> do you recall during the dangerous tour that kenny ortega was also involved?ake over. >>> we will continue to monitoring this. you are listening to the proceed innovation the michael jackson case and of course against dr. conrad murray. this is the "this is it" tour manager being questioned. >>> first off it is none of your business. i don't and where you send your kids to school. don't bother me. >> take the bat out on her for once. and you know...
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the first prosecution will be kenny ortega the entrepreneur of jackson's "this is it" shows. our legal analyst says the witness to watch is the forensic pathologist. >> it's a complex trial that jurors know will unfold in layers overtime. >> reporter: the judge rejected a motion to show this video in court. the defense says it shows jackson was under the influence and ailing months before his death when he announced his this is it series of concerts in london. the judge also rejected a motion to admit evidence showing murray ignored law enforcement requests for extended interviews in the days after jackson's death. this is a trial that could last between four to six weeks. if convicted, murray could face four years behind bars. that's the latest live in downtown l.a., i'm kirk hawkins, back to you. >> thank you. >>> good morning, bay area. we have fall sunshine coming our way. temperatures are heating up outside. starting out with mostly clear skies, patchy fog at the coast. temperatures in the 50s and sixes already. 60s and 70s at the beaches there, gorgeous, mostly sunny. i
the first prosecution will be kenny ortega the entrepreneur of jackson's "this is it" shows. our legal analyst says the witness to watch is the forensic pathologist. >> it's a complex trial that jurors know will unfold in layers overtime. >> reporter: the judge rejected a motion to show this video in court. the defense says it shows jackson was under the influence and ailing months before his death when he announced his this is it series of concerts in london. the judge...
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the prosecution's first witness will be kenny ortega, the choreographer who worked with jackson on hisomeback tour. >>> today structural engineers will begin rapelling down the sides of the washington monument looking for more damage from the east coast quake. newly released video from the top of the monument shows tourists evacuating the moment that 5.8 quake struck last month. it's been closed ever since. today structural engineers begin checking it out to make sure that people can go back in. hopefully sometime soon but amazingly, it didn't suffer any more damage than that. >> looks like they are in a hurry. >> probably a little claustrophobic going down that thing. must have been scary. >>> the bay area has some of the worst traffic in the country. the surprising reason your commute may be getting better, though. also ahead... >> i am pretty excited to have... >> new and absolutely free stuff. how bay area teachers are joining force to get students the tools to succeed. ,,,, so...what do you think? i'm not crazy about these light fixtures. kitchen's too small. what's next? 607 fran
the prosecution's first witness will be kenny ortega, the choreographer who worked with jackson on hisomeback tour. >>> today structural engineers will begin rapelling down the sides of the washington monument looking for more damage from the east coast quake. newly released video from the top of the monument shows tourists evacuating the moment that 5.8 quake struck last month. it's been closed ever since. today structural engineers begin checking it out to make sure that people can...
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prosecutors played a disturbing recording of the king of pop and director kenny ortega says he triedintervene and get the singer some serious help. [ slurred speech ] >> he was upset that i didn't allow michael to rehearse the night before and that i sent him home. and he was upset that i, uhm, -- he said he should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: at times inside the courtroom murray was emotional as he cried during the opening statements. catherine jackson did the same thing hours later when prosecutors played four minutes of jackson's final rehearsal of two songs. later on this morning we are expecting to see them to continue to work their way through that witness list. we are going it hear from an aeg executive as well as one of the bodyguards of michael jackson as well as one of his personal assistants. that's the latest live in downtown l.a. i'm kirk hawkins. now back to you. >> kirk, what was the reaction -- maybe not so much in the courtroom but outside and down in l.a. when we heard michae
prosecutors played a disturbing recording of the king of pop and director kenny ortega says he triedintervene and get the singer some serious help. [ slurred speech ] >> he was upset that i didn't allow michael to rehearse the night before and that i sent him home. and he was upset that i, uhm, -- he said he should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and psychologist and be the director and allow michael's health to him. >> reporter: at times inside the courtroom murray was...
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bill: the first witness was kenny ortega, the concert promoter who was going to take michael jacksonon and he sent e-mails in the week and month before he died talking about his condition, how concerned he was for him. so we'll see how this plays out as we move into day two. tamra, thank you. >> joey, thanks to you as well. martha. martha: good debate. >>> coming up, another state will soon offer in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants, and this time, voters and even lawmakers had no say in this matter. big debate coming up on that >> thank you senator. >> and mr. chairman, the captain of my ship, the ship is going in the wrong direction. bill: that's an incredible and dangerous new video, watch as the car, apparently fail to go brake in time, slams into two cars pulled over on the side of the highway, the impact hurling one man on to the other side of the divider, the other man, sent flying on to the hood! amazingly, both men suffered only minor bruises, and they are lucky. that story out of argentina. >> if you say that we should not educate children who have come i
bill: the first witness was kenny ortega, the concert promoter who was going to take michael jacksonon and he sent e-mails in the week and month before he died talking about his condition, how concerned he was for him. so we'll see how this plays out as we move into day two. tamra, thank you. >> joey, thanks to you as well. martha. martha: good debate. >>> coming up, another state will soon offer in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants, and this time, voters and...
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. >> jurors also heard from kenny ortega, the producer of jackson's this is it concert tour. he sent jackson home from a rehearsal less than a week before he died. ortega said dr. murray was not happy about that. >> he said i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and a psychologist and be the director in the week michaels felt to him. >> if convicted murderer to get up to four years in prison and loses medical license. >> we will be right back as the kron 4 morning news continues. here is a live look outside. sunshine over san francisco. look! here she comes! ♪ she'll be comin' 'round the mountain when she comes... ♪ ♪ when she comes. ♪ it'll be spinning new chrome wheels when it comes. ♪ ♪ when it comes. ♪ custom spoiler, race grade pistons, ♪ ♪ gt35 turbo charger. ♪ and they'll all know that it's kevin's awesome car. ♪ bought em! ( clears throat ) sorry. when it's on your mind, it's on ebay. >> another check on bay area weather and traffic. maybe some rain this weekend. james fletcher has details. >> a live look at the james lick freeway. sunshine in the city and tempe
. >> jurors also heard from kenny ortega, the producer of jackson's this is it concert tour. he sent jackson home from a rehearsal less than a week before he died. ortega said dr. murray was not happy about that. >> he said i should stop trying to be an amateur doctor and a psychologist and be the director in the week michaels felt to him. >> if convicted murderer to get up to four years in prison and loses medical license. >> we will be right back as the kron 4 morning...
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involuntary manslaughter with the death of michael jackson the first person we expect to testify will be kenny ortegawe will be the first person they hope to show that jackson was responsible for is found dead that he administered the lethal dose resulting in his death we will keep our eyes and ears on a strong and we will take a break and be right back state farm. this is jessica. hey, jessica, jerry neumann with a policy question. jerry, how are you doing? fine, i just got a little fender bender. oh, jerry, i'm so sorry. i would love to help but remember, you dropped us last month. yeah, you know it's funny. it only took 15 minutes to sign up for that new auto insurance company but it's taken a lot longer to hear back. is your car up a pole again? [ crying ] i miss you, jessica! jerry, are you crying? no, i just, i bit my tongue. [ male announcer ] get to a better state. text save to 7-8836. >> knowledge special on october the eighth on saturday at 3:00 p.m. when the blue angels and lee weefleet week. honey, we've got tickets to the game, so we're going to need a sitter on saturday night. i almost
involuntary manslaughter with the death of michael jackson the first person we expect to testify will be kenny ortegawe will be the first person they hope to show that jackson was responsible for is found dead that he administered the lethal dose resulting in his death we will keep our eyes and ears on a strong and we will take a break and be right back state farm. this is jessica. hey, jessica, jerry neumann with a policy question. jerry, how are you doing? fine, i just got a little fender...
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later in the day, prosecutors called their first witness, kenny ortega, the director and choreographer behind jackson's "this is it" tour. prosecutors attempted to establish jackson appeared in good health. they played this rehearsal clip in court. ♪ >> what was his demeanor? what was his condition on tuesday, june 23rd? >> he entered into rehearsal full of energy, full of desire to work. full of enthusiasm and it was a different michael. >> reporter: two days later, michael jackson was dead. joining me now to make sense of what we've heard in court today is ellen garofalo, a defense attorney from one of l.a.'s biggest firm. ellen, thanks for coming on the show. i want to ask you first, what do you make of the prosecution's case so far? all right. it doesn't seem like ellen can hear me very well there, so we'll get her hooked up and fix that for you. in the meantime, let's take a look at some other big stories that are developing right now, shall we? oh, no, let's try again one more time. ellen? ellen, do you hear me? >> i hear you now. i didn't hear you before. >> ellen? >> yes, i hea
later in the day, prosecutors called their first witness, kenny ortega, the director and choreographer behind jackson's "this is it" tour. prosecutors attempted to establish jackson appeared in good health. they played this rehearsal clip in court. ♪ >> what was his demeanor? what was his condition on tuesday, june 23rd? >> he entered into rehearsal full of energy, full of desire to work. full of enthusiasm and it was a different michael. >> reporter: two days...
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later in the day, prosecutors called their first witness, kenny ortega, the director and choreographerttempted to establish jackson appeared in good health and played this rehearsal clip in court. ♪ >> one more time. ♪ >> second verse. >> what was his demeanor, his condition on tuesday, june 23rd. >> he endered into rehearsal full of energy, full of desire to work. full of enthusiasm. and it was a different michael. >> reporter: two days later, michael jackson was dead. randi kaye, cnn, los angeles. >>> the coroner says michael jackson died from acute propofol intoxication combination with sedatives. propofol san anesthetic commonly given to sedate during procedures like colonoscopies. in his open statement, they talked about how much of the drug jackson's doctor ordered. >> we learned from shipments from april 6th and the shipment of june 10th conrad murray ordered 255 separate vials of propofol. totals 155,000 milligrams of propofol. equivalent to 15.5 liters, or 4.09 gallons of this general anesthetic agent. >> so i want to talk more about the use, the misuse of propofol as well as
later in the day, prosecutors called their first witness, kenny ortega, the director and choreographerttempted to establish jackson appeared in good health and played this rehearsal clip in court. ♪ >> one more time. ♪ >> second verse. >> what was his demeanor, his condition on tuesday, june 23rd. >> he endered into rehearsal full of energy, full of desire to work. full of enthusiasm. and it was a different michael. >> reporter: two days later, michael jackson...
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right now on the stand, kenny ortega, the man who produced jackson's world tour at the time of his deathard opening statements from the lawyers of both defending and prosecuting dr. conrad murray. cnn's ted rowlands has the latest. >> reporter: in his opening statement, prosecutor david walgren started showing jurors this photo of michael jackson's partially covered body after he was pronounced dead more than two years ago. he then took nearly an hour and a half, laying out the state's case against jackson's doctor, conrad murray. walgren took the jury through jackson's final hours, from his final rehearsal where he showed a photo of jashgz on stage to jackson's bedroom where he say murray gave jackson the overdose that killed him and left the room. >> conrad murray figuratively and literally abandoned michael jackson. >> reporter: walgren told jurors murray purchased hundreds of bottles of propofol and had been giving it to him with other drugs on a daily basis in the months before jackson's death and played this audio that he says murray recorded of jackson while he was extremely drugg
right now on the stand, kenny ortega, the man who produced jackson's world tour at the time of his deathard opening statements from the lawyers of both defending and prosecuting dr. conrad murray. cnn's ted rowlands has the latest. >> reporter: in his opening statement, prosecutor david walgren started showing jurors this photo of michael jackson's partially covered body after he was pronounced dead more than two years ago. he then took nearly an hour and a half, laying out the state's...
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>> i think anything kenny ortega does he especially a musical, he's a genius.oreographer in the first one and i would have to say that he was more than a choreographer. she was for me, one of the most integral part of that movie's success. >> who would you like to see in the remake? can you think of anybody? you can do it again because by the way you were great at "dancing with the stars." you won. >> thank you. thank you. >> but if it's want going to be you, who would you like to see? >> i don't know. there's just so -- i know that kenny is really good at finding talent. i mean, he's got my partner derek hough who might be a great possibility. i mean, i think he can be a star for sure. there's so many, many amazing guys out there. i can't wait to see who they have. i think they'll make a real departure. when i did that movie, that was the last time i danced before "dirty dancing" -- i mean before "dancing with the stars." i mean, literally, i didn't dance all that time and then i had been in so much pain which is why i'm here to talk about partners against pai
>> i think anything kenny ortega does he especially a musical, he's a genius.oreographer in the first one and i would have to say that he was more than a choreographer. she was for me, one of the most integral part of that movie's success. >> who would you like to see in the remake? can you think of anybody? you can do it again because by the way you were great at "dancing with the stars." you won. >> thank you. thank you. >> but if it's want going to be you,...