rachel's adopted brother ezra is here to respond along with kevin jackson. first, let's hear a little from rachel. >> are you an african-american woman? >> i identify as black. >> when you see this picture, is this an african-american woman or is that a caucasian woman? >> i would say visibly identified as white by people who see her. >> but at the time were you identifying yourself as african-american? >> in that picture during that time no. >> when did it start? >> i would say about 5 years old. >> you began identifying yourself as african-american? >> drawing self portraits with the brown crayon and the black curly hair. >> you have changed your appearance. your complexion appears darker than it did in the photos of you as a young lady. have you done something to darken your complexion? >> i certainly don't stay out of the sun. i also don't -- some critics have said i put on black face as a performance. i definitely am not white. nothing about being white describes who i am. what's the word for it? the closest thing that i can come to is if you are black

. >> that brings us to our look who is talking executive director of the black sphere kevin jackson weighing in on the police rhetoric. he says president obama is adding fuel to the fire focusing on police not the communities themselves. >>back obama keeps using the term communities of color. he acts as if people got dropped in from outer space and cops don't know what to do with them. cops know how to deal with people. they know how to deal with people who commit crimes. every time they talk about the statistics and talk about communities of color that are overwhelmingly incarcerated it is the communities of color committing overwhelming crimes. it is very simple. >> it feels like fall if you are just waking up across the northeast. >> it is amazing and you can expect another wet and rainy day. maria molina is tracking it for us. >> quite chilly out there as you walk out the door across the northeast. we are looking at temperatures in the 50's and 40's. the system responsible was a cold front that ush ped through the area or the at least partly responsible across portions of the northeast o

coming out, outing her and her brother talking about why she decided to lie about being black, and kevin jackson who runs the black speer says she encountered racism at howard university and didn't like how she was treated at howard university which is a predominantly african-american school she decided to hate white people and rachel makes a fine black liberal don't be mad at the us be mad at who wronged you. >> we could focus on the race but that is not the issue and we could go down a road that is not helpful in this situation. this chapter needs someone to run it. if they handled this properly and she had not lied -- >> she had such a long history in the case of lying. it is not like she said it for this job. it has been many applications, it has been accepting a scholarship at school if you pretend to be any color for personal or financial gain that is fraud and lying and that is what the issue is about. i thought it was amazing her parents said of all her faults this was the worst. this isn't just a one-time thing. this is a whole field events. her brother said in reports she asked them to

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. >> kevin jackson, executive director of the black fear and author of race pimping. richard fowler the nationally syndicated radio host. the white house comes out today when pressed on these growing crime statistics and they are devastating across the country if you look at the number of cities where the murder rate is skyrocketing. and they go to the president -- the police are feeling low in morale it's not because of anything the president has said or done. >> it's interesting how ernest made it -- i want to generalize. well he should because you gave enough statistics you could have gone city by city it would have been worse. look at the top 10 cities two of them are hotbeds right now. what's interesting is that barack obama keeps using this term communities of color, he acts as if black people got dropped in from outer space and cops don't know what to do with them it's communities, it's human, it's people. cops know how to do with people they know how to deal with people who commit crimes they talk about the communities of color, that are overwhelmingly incarce

. >> here with reaction from the black sphere kevin jackson and a criminal defense attorney is with uscan you give any coded language on the fox news channel? >> fox is out there on some things. >> i'm asking you a specific question. >> i don't think he was accurate. i don't think he should have said that. >> you can't give me one specific -- we're on 1424 hours a day since october 19th96 if you can't give me one example of coded language or hate speech that says a lot? >> it does say a lot. todd rutherford was distraught. you will lash out. i understand. >> kevin, it's the race to politicize these things. you know it's almost like a sickness that oh, wait tragedy happens, oh, let's see how we can advance our narrative on the gun debate in this country. meanwhile, we know in this particular case that this guy did not obey the gun laws. he had no right to a wellen based on his felony arrest. he didn't obey the laws that exist currently. what makes us think he would obey another law? >> it husband nothing to do with anything that was said. what it has to do with is kids like this kid tha

here is kevin jackson and eric guster. when you see he keeps showing up at these high profile events what is your interpretation of it? to me i don't see any good out of it. >> he's a modern day al sharpton. trying to make a name for himself being an agitator. if i'm not mistaken, i didn't follow this too closely. i think south carolina didn't want him. even in ferguson i was on hand when they rejected jesse jackson. many cases they spoke out against sharpton. i think people are sick of guys like deray who don't add anything to the fabric of the discussion. he's there to start trouble. he's paid to do it. it's very unfortunate. >> and eric he told me he doesn't work. i guess this is his full time job. i have a problem because then it looks like a community is acting a certain way. i think the untold story of charleston is all of the family members that lost loved ones they were out there saying in extremely forgiving way they forgive this guy, even though he killed their relatives. that's an untold story in my view. >> tha

joining me now is the author of all of those tweets with us and kevin jackson. duray, you say that.you at all three incidents? >> i've been to many cities where the police have been violent towards people of color. and there have been many people who have travelled around the country in solidarity to stand with people to make sure -- >> have you? >> to make sure the stories don't go unnoticed. >> i asked you if you have. >> i have. >> you've been in ferguson, right? >> correct. >> and you've been in baltimore? >> correct. >> and you've been in mckinney? >> i've been in many places where the police have either killed people or continued to be violent. >> okay. >> towards people of color. >> so you're a professional -- is this what you do for a living? you want to set up 501-c3 you want to set up tax-exempt organization? >> i'm somebody who is focused on justice. is this a question you're asking me because i'm a person of color, would you ask white people this, too? this sort of question? >> it has nothing to do with race, it has to do with is this your profession. i ask you you know

the author of "the big black lie," kevin jackson, who join ss us live from st. louis. york what they've done is judge kimbal wood has thrown out a standard test. you had to pass the test to be a teacher. but she threw it out because it was discriminatory because not enough people of color are passing it. how is that discriminatory? >> hands up. don't teach, steve. it's not discriminatory. if the teachers can't learn themselves then we just change the rules and we cry racism. if they can't teach the students then they'll change the grades and if they do that somebody cries foul then they'll cry racism. we have a system in place where, at every level, it checks itself. it's not accountable to anybody. so the teachers aren't teaching. the kids aren't learning. they're just doing what they need to do to pass them through and america is getting what it deserves quite frankly. >> and you make a good point right there at the end. and that is we're talking about the dynamics with teachers and unions and stuff like that. but at the end of the day, it's all about those kids sitt

louis, kevin jackson, author of "the big lie," always a pleasure to have you on the show. ve you weigh in on this story about rachel dolezal, president of the spokane, washington naacp. she has been presenting herself as an african-american. we heard from her parent this is past week that she does not have black blood in her. what do you make of this story? >> i think it's very typical of liberals. if they feel something, steve, then it has to be so. i mean look at what's happened with elizabeth warren. look at barack obama. he feels competent and he's not. so to me it's just par for the course. you know what's interesting is how are they going to back out of this? how is the naacp going to claim that hey, we are all inclusive when in fact they know this is a deception. i'm curious as to how they're going to get out of it. >> do you like the fact that somebody -- do you feel as though somebody white can run the naacp? >> yeah. the naacp was started by white republicans. if you go look at the naacp website and search for republican you won't find that word. >> it doesn't bot

joining us now kevin jackson to break it down. l spokesperson for the american council on public safety. let's start with you, kevin. do you have a problem with this study? >> the biggest hack job i've ever seen brian. first of all let's define what is considered right wing or left wing terrorism or extremism. in the case of for example, dylann roof they've thrown him into the right because he passed by a right wing building or something. don't know how they defen that. dylann roof is a product of the left wing. he's a product of their education system. and firmly as much as they want to blame it on the right, as far as i'm concerned, you can look at everything he's done and it's absolutely adds up to leftism. >> gotcha. >> and then if you look at the report there's in on the report that says left wing extremist. there's right wing extremists and then there's nonjihadists or something like that. they don't reference it. >> the fbi and homeland security have a dual terror alert saying look out for july 4th because isis is determined

joining us is the author of the big black lie, kevin jackson. these are alarming numbers.hy america needs a write republican president. if baltimore had a white republican mayor you wouldn't be talking about cops now. you'd be talking about the accountability where it lies. the idea that baltimore and the justice department are looking at police is ridiculous. and you're seeing the outcome. i predicted this when ferguson erupted. i told media and everybody there, you're doing a disservice to the law abiding citizens of this community by supporting a kid who did the wrong thing. baltimore is essentially the same thing. we're not allowing the system to take its course. >> what about police? i think it seems now police are more concerned about their own well-being. they don't want to be arrested or persecuted for putting on the blue every morning when they get up trying to make these communities safer, especially we see this with the new numbers with baltimore arrests, when you compare the numbers from may of last year to may of this year there's a 69% decrease in the number