the kgb would follow me and look for bugs in my hotel room. he would lie about almost everything but it was still interesting episode. >> host: en e-mail from brian. ten years ago i applied for a special agent john that the secret service i was successful through several steps until the polygraph after which they rejected me, left me with a poor impression of polygraph which i consider to be thoroughly pseudoscientific. i now work in law enforcement elsewhere in the federal government. do you have an opinion on the use or overreliance of polygraph exams? >> i believe polygraphs are very useful. as a deterrent. if you know you're going to be polygraphs you may not engage in improper behavior you may not apply. in many cases when confronted with the fact that someone has failed a polygraph individuals will confess. that has led to many people going to jail or people being rejected by these agencies. is not perfect the kgb has various ways for instructing people was instructed on the polygraph so it is not always in fallible but going to back to

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and i honestly think that telling them before the kgb filed a report to them was a huge help. when my father understood that roald might have serious difficulties in marrying me, he immediately volunteered to come to moscow for our wedding and do all the things that would be necessary to provide protection. it has to be remembered -- maybe i'd like to add this here, that at the time of our marriage, there were many, many divided families, american-soviet families that could not be reunited because of bad relations between the two countries. in fact, just prior to the announcement -- the secret announcement to the politburo that we were planning to marry an american and soviet -- i should say the american -- the male american chess champion married the soviet union female chess champion, and she had to defect to do it. but the point is that she didn't have security clearances and she wasn't working within the military-industrial establishment. so roald and i said, my goodness, if she thinks she has to defect in order to marry an american, we could be in bigger trouble than we t

the kgb has interesting ways for instructing people, for example one individual became the more he was instructed on how to evade and so it's not always infallible. but going back to the robert hanssen case, the fbi agent who was a spy for russia and probably the most damaging one in u.s. history talking about the secrets of the fbi he revealed that the because he was free, the fbi director refused to approve a proposal that all of them be polygraph. so it is in fact part of this and he would have been caught. and so for seven more years we are able to compromise, millions of whom were killed. and so it's something that i do believe in. >> host: what is the relationship between the cia fbi and congress? >> they have been very smart about congress. admiral mueller would spend a lot of time with them behind the scenes. he was very open and honest and the result is that they have gotten a tremendous increase, which they should have and the secret service also is pretty good at that. they will show you the facilities at national conventions, give them special access to members of congress

kennedy and the dynasty he founded", and the cia one includes the most important kgb spy to defect toes. and we also had "inside the white house: the hidden lives of the modern presidents and the secrets of the world's most powerful institution" and "the sins of the father: joseph p. kennedy and the dynasty he founded" about joseph kennedy that came out in 1990 ickes the season that we have talked about "the bureau: the secret history of the fbi; a matter of character: inside the white house of george w. bush" came out in 2002 "the cia at war", and "a matter of character", "laura bush" "inside the desperate race to stop the next attack" and the last book "in the president's secret service: behind the scenes with agents in the line of fire and the presidents they protect" of 2009, and finally his most recent, "secret service agents". >> caller: great program, the one question for mr. kessler would be given the thoughts on the president. [inaudible] and who had the best presidents from truman forward, the best mutual respect going both ways. >> guest: george w. bush was very involved wi

this is classic old soviet-style kgb activity.here was just a hearing on this on the hill recently and the russians are doing this full bore and we have to push back. latvia just stood up a center of excellence of innovation warfare for nato because we've got to take that part of the war just as seriously as what russia's doing on the ground to destabilize countries. jenna: in a recent article you wrote that the best deterrent to vladimir putin is more of a military presence in western europe. do you still believe that considering that this is seen as aggressive by the united states? they're innocent bystanders to this aggression? >> yeah. that's just pure propaganda. our goal ought to make and the next president ought to say how can we make russia irrelevant to us. if western europe is secure, russia really is irrelevant to us. so if we flood the market with energy, with crude oil and natural gas exports that marginalizes russia. if we put a stronger u.s. military presence there, that sends a message that we take our article v co

/russian books, books, "escape from the cia: how the cia won and lost the most important kgb spy ever u.s.," tothe u.s.," "inside the cia: revealing the secrets of the world's most powerful spy agency" revealing the secrets of the world's most powerful spy agency" "inside the white house: the hidden lives of the modern presidents and the secrets of the most powerful institution," this season inside palm beach 1999, "the bureau: the secret history of the fbi" came out in 2002 the cia at war "a matter of character: inside the white house of george w. bush," "laura bush" 2006, "the terrorist watch" inside it is the race to stop the next attack 2007 and ronald kessler's books, "in the president's secret service: behind the scenes with agents in the line of fire and the presidents they protect" 2009, the secrets of the fbi and his most recent "the first family detail: secret service agents reveal the hidden lives of the presidents". judge in green castle, indiana. go ahead with your question or comment. >> great program. one question for ronald kessler, going back, getting fought on the pr

. >>> one of the two men accused of poisoning alexander has said the former kgb agent may have killedccidentally. russian businessman dimitri says he was already ill when the two met in 2006. >>> two venezuelan officials slapped with u.s. sanctions have been appoint today the country's cabinet. president nicholas maduro made the announcement on live tv he said they were giving vice ministerial posts last month washington posed sanctions against seven venezuelan officials accused of human rights violations. >>> thousands of patients in peru are hoping the courts will allow them to have access to nonbranded generic drugs, they are supposed to produce the same results as more expensive versions a report from the peruvian capital leam 56789 carlos' life is on a countdown his colon cancer has expand today his liver. doctors tell him the only channels to live longer than two years may be with a biologic medicine treatment. >> translator: the problem is that i am being treated in a public hospital and, they are telling me that they can't give me the treatment because it's too expensive. >> r

we have a kgb lieutenant colonel nine years after the collapse of the soviet union.uring these years, we saw a total collapse of democracy under yeltsin. first, it was turned into one-party dictatorship. it ended up with one man dictatorship, the most unstable and dangerous form of government. it is all about one man. the whole legacy of the regime is based on his charisma and his abilities. we know from history that after running out enemies inside the country, he turns elsewhere. in 2005, i stopped playing chess and i turned toward russian politics. when you say politics, you think about political parties being funded, debates, you think about fund raising and many other things. elections. so i knew it was an uphill battle where my chess experience couldn't help me at all. in putin's russia, it is the opposite. [laughter] [applause] and it has all happened with engagement. i remember how with harm or looked at the pictures on russian television in 2006 when putin was hosting g-7. that was given to yeltsin as an advance. it was like a preliminary reward. russia was

. >> more of his definition as kgb, a secretive man. so before he was communist now it's the religious orthodox which by the way is what he shares with tsipras. greek orthodoxy russian orthodoxy. >> that's helping them bond you think? >> the great feel of spiritual leadership. >> do you think russia will support greece or trying to establish semi alliances like the leaders of hungary and greece? >> i think he would support greece to some degree. now maybe having a gas agreement, the turkish stream that they may pay forward to -- >> but how much can he help? because as we have discussed before the russian economy is a mess. >> the russian economy is a mess but also as we know from the communist past and putin is part of that past they can always find money when they need to for their causes. the soviet economy was almost broke but it found enough money to fight in afghanistan. it is not entirely black and white for them. >> nina always good to have you with us. thank you. >>> thank you. >>> best way to bring an end to the conflict in eas

i don't agree with you but i have also studied the -- the kgb, so i understand the difference between a police state and the situation that is in the united states. our disagreement is not based on misunderstanding or my not being enlightened with the information. it's based on a different view of the information and a different degree of sources as to whether i get my information. on that note i have to play the same role on the iran panel so i have enjoyed it. thank you for your forebearance. [applause] >> i'm sorry. what ways the part of the -- briefly what was the part of the question for me? make it up? is there a partial police state? i think that the fallacy -- my learned and now departed colleagues understanding here is we're acting as if the only way we can have a police state is if wore having some recreation of the nazis or some recreation of some other infamous dictatorship. i think the architecture -- if i had to live anywhere i would live here. certainly not as bad here as in other places buts the architecture of a police state is very certainly being put into place, and

kate bennett from politico's kgb file joins us again to talk more about this. let me ask you, with all the celebrities who seem to want to come to this party, is there room for any white house correspondents? >> sadly, not really. >> i didn't think so. >> i think the main thing is at the dinner they'll get the best spots. so they have seats at the dinner. the white house correspondents' association believes in what they do so that's not to be ignored but in the bright and shiny lights will we see a lot of them? probably not. >> we always see a lot of celebrities, television news celebrities coming down from new york and l.a. who do you expect to be here? >> oh we've got lots of people katie couric is coming. lots of actors and actresses, too. you'll see a lot of the big cnn and msnbc folks coming in. >> what about the clothes? tell me about the -- will we see designer things on the red carpet going in? >> the important stuff? >> isn't it always? >> there's always the clothes watch and we want to make sure washington looks good. we're not necessarily known for o

they were all soviet inspired and kgb supported. what we are worrying about now is some of those 20,000. over 10,000 of which have western passports coming to the united states and carrying out attacks here in this country. it's not just the lone wolf attack that we have seen several of. these are organize od efforts on the part of isis to bring the fight home. we have seen what they have done in threatening u.s. military personnel and their families right here in the united states. this is unchartered territory nice to hear the administration acknowledging. >> hopefully the wakeup call isn't too late. you made important point here. we need to protect ourselves at home because they want to get here in a very bad way. what is your advice to the administration tonight to keep these predators and jihadists out of the united states? >> here we are the inventor of the internet. how is it that we don't have a travel tracking system for people traveling internationally on u.s. and western passports that can detect them before they get on p

so that was probably greatest mistake yeltsin made and we had a kgb lieutenant colonel nine years after the collapse of the soviet union. first thing he did restored soviet anthem for those who hear what was his long-term agenda. during these years we saw a total collapse of this feeble democracy under yeltsin. first it was turned into one party dictatorship and it ended up with one-man dictatorship, the most unstable and dangerous form of governance because it's all about one man. the whole legacy of the regime based on his charisma and his ability to exult the audience. the propaganda machine works for his greatness. after running out of animus inside a country he turns elsewhere. in 2005 when i stopped playing chess and i turned for some people mistakenly called russian politics because when you say politics, you think about political parties being funded. you think of debates. you think about fund-raising and many other things elections. so i knew, i knew it was an uphill battle where my chess experience couldn't help me at all. in chess we had fixed rules and unpredictable results.

koreans iranians, if we were talking about this 50 yeerts ago, that's the 007 world and you said the kgb a human being in the west wing stealing stuff, you would have said that's disturbing but that's what the spy business is. the second oldest profession on the planet. spy services are using a form of -- of the spy business that's less intrusive. no surprise here. >> if you found that the russians had copies of all your stuff, you'd take them out and might make threatening noises, right? >> i think you would. >> unless you were over there interest in red square. >> you just answered my question. i think you would. the first question i'd have if i were sitting adviseing the president hold on go to the people in our business who do this, that is the cia and the national security agency, and say how are you stealing information out of the kremlin. if the answer is we're not targeting kremlin technology i'd say you're fired.s that they got in the system. the problem is not that they're targeting the system. that's the spy business. >> can we not do better in a security sense? >> boy i'm not

kgb and -- aspects of this is a long-term scenario. >> guest: we didn't get to this mess overnight but it took decades and it will take decades to fix it. >> host: i think more of a short-term concern is what you start a book out with becky talk about how there is target consumer group in the run up to the 2012 elections. i was wondering is that part of what drove your title choice of? >> guest: it does. you right. your eight pages into the book and we discussed whether think is very possibly a decision by irs bureaucrats, politically appointed bureaucrats, to go after the growing tea party movement and deny them 501(c)(4) status, legal status so they couldn't bank account and legally raise money and that one or two staffers and rent a little office and grow into state institutions. tea party start in 2009. just a couple months into the obama administration. and i would've told you at the time that it couldn't happen, that i've been working in a tax benefit for a long time and i knew from experience the american people will rise up against a tax increase, proposition 13 against propert

what you describe is the exact mirror of what the kgb did in terms of case study case handlers names and also having writing about their detail life. >> uh-huh -- their daily life. >> there are many parallels. >> yeah. many parallels. >> i think somebody who was defending what they did early on would say we had to fight fire with fire. i mean, that would be their defense. but there were many parallels. >> okay. other questions over on that side. >> uh-huh. >> i was wondering if you came across anything about how -- so the 1965 is when the immigration act was, the new immigration act was changed so a lot of the students that maybe met your contemporaries in 1963 our 1964 -- or 1964 at international meetings they may have a few years later been applying for visas and come here. i know that my parents came after the 1965 immigration act but they had friends who were americans in england or in india, and that was one of reasons why they decided to come here. it sounded good to them. so do you think any of these files were influential in who got their immigration approved or not approved?

we went to the kgb and said, please let us go out. they said, you can't go out. we were an hour and a half behind and as we went out, we were contemplating suicide. i don't know about you. he took nixon out on a boat, so we did not miss anything. this is important, the fact the russians had nixon. after this meeting, a very vicious atmosphere, we go upstairs the entire mood changes, they break out the vodka and we sit around and get semi-drunk and have a great time. at the end of that, nixon leaves, kissinger goes off. it was a very good agreement. >> henry used to say the problem with my staff is there all incompetent. [laughter] kathleen mcfarland: in the audience are several key members of henry kissinger's staff. they were chuckling when winston lord and john negroponte talked about contemplating suicide because henry kissinger would have been disappointed. >> henry, like nixon, was very magnanimous. kathleen mcfarland: we have gotten through the negotiations, arms control agreements, opening to china, the vietnam war is still raging, college campuses are on

i don't agree with you, but you, but i have also study the waffen ss in the kgb. so i understand the difference between the police state in the situation in the united states. states. our disagreement is not based on a misunderstanding on my not being enlightened with the information. it's based on a different view of the information and a different a different degree of sources as to where i get my information. on that note, i have to to play the same role on the iran panel. i i have enjoyed. thank you for your forbearance. [applause] >> i'm sorry, briefly, sorry, briefly, what was the part of the question for me? a partial police state, i think the fallacy my learned now the party colleagues understanding we are acting as if the only way that we can have a police state is if we are having some re- creation of the nazis or some re- creation of other infamous dictatorship. i think that the architecture, certainly not -- if i i had to live anywhere how would live here obviously. is certainly not as bad here as it is in other places places, but the architecture of a

once yemen goes through a transition kgb -- transition period, then it is up to the yemeni people. he spent 35 years or so driving the country into the ground and he played a very dark role in the events in yemen. and so now he was removed. he continues to cause mischief he had the scenes. and we are doing our best to put an end to it. >> i want the audience to please remain seated while his excellency leaves, but not before saying that this is one of the best sessions we have. it is standing room only in this room. and at short notice at that. it shows the concern, the care about human and the yemeni people and the yemen-u.s. relations and the yemen plate -- yemen fightplight. we had more than 40 questions. i think we covered somewhat of the waterfront. we are grateful to our speakers and to his excellency. thank you all. [applause] >> this discussion is available for viewing any time online in the c-span video library. go to www.c-span.org. "the new york times" is reporting that the european union and iran are expected to issue a joint statement on nuclear talks. but it is unclea

he went to the kgb and said please let us go out. they said, no, you can't go out. so we went out behind brezhnev and nixon. we were contemplating suicide, i don't know. [laughter] luckily, brezhnev took nixon on a boat so we did not miss anything. can we had a meeting with john a vicious meeting. and nixon stood there and did not try to debate. and this is significant. because the russians had nixon during the bombing and mining, it sent a message about how loyal their ally was. at the end of that, nixon leaves. kissinger goes off to negotiate the salt agreement until midnight. i don't think he was drunk. >> henry used to say, -- kt: example number one. let history no. in the audience are several key members of henry kissinger's staff. they were chuckling when winston lord and john negroponte: talk about contemplating suicide because henry kissinger would have been disappointed. winston lord: there are very magnanimous, but they did not need a briefing because there was a four hour lecture from the other side. kt: we've gone through salt negotiations, arms control

i don't agree with you, but i would also study the kgb. i understand the police state in the united states. a disagreement is not based on a misunderstanding or my not being enlightened with information but based on a different degree of sources as to where i get my information. on that road, have to -- on that note, i have to play the same role on the iran panel. thank you to the audience. [applause] leonard: i'm sorry. briefly, what was the part of the question for me? yes, partial police state. yes, i think the fallacy in my learned and out of party colleagues's understanding is that hillary can have a police state is if we are having some recreation of the nazis -- is that if we have -- that the only way we can have a police it is if we have some recreation of the nazis. if i had to live anywhere, i would live here, obviously. it is really not as bad here as it is in other places, but the architecture of a police state is certainly being put into place, particularly in the african-american community. and i should say, the nonwhite comm

goes back to the jfk assassination when there are all these claims that the moffatt did it that the kgb did it and there's all this supposition. but it doesn't mean that they did it. and if you look at the one commission report they show in their opinion very conclusively that one person killed jfk and they just can't fathom this how someone could be taken out by some nut which is often the case and assassins tend to be narcissistic, looking for attention and often mentally ill or borderline mentally ill. and that is how this occurs and there is no grand conspiracy in those cases. >> host: you are on with author ron kessler. >> caller: good afternoon and happy easter. >> guest: happy easter. >> caller: i read the bureau, i was roaming around the bookstore and looking for something to read that caught my eye and i wound up reading inside the cia and white house and your books are great, i can attest to this fact, those are the only ones that i have read. but you certainly are very much are just the facts and very apolitical. you know i was trying to think of a question and i really just

that was the greatest mistake yeltsin made and where the kgb returned nine years after the collapse of soviet union. the first thing he did was replace his long-term agenda. during these years we saw the total collapse of this people markers and are yeltsin. it was turned into a one-party dictatorship and ended up with the most unstable and dangerous form of government. the whole legacy of the regime based on his charisma and his ability to help the propaganda machine work toward his greatness. we know from history that after running out of enemies inside the country he turns elsewhere. in 2005 i stopped playing chess and i turn to what some people would mistakenly called russian politics. you think about debates and russia has no public live debates. you think about fund-raising and elections. so i knew it was an uphill battle. in chess we have fixed rules and unpredictable results. putin's russia is exactly the opposite. [applause] and it has all happened with -- i remember with horror i looked at the pictures on russian television in 2006 was putin was hosting g7. i never called the

i don't agree with you but i also studied the ss and the kgb so i understand the difference between the police state and a situation that's in the united states. our disagreement is not based on misunderstanding or minot being enlightened with the information. it's based on a different view of the information and a different degree of sources as to where i get my information. on that note i've to play the same role on the iran panel, so i've enjoyed it. thank you for your forbearance. [applause] >> i'm sorry, what was the part briefly what was part of the question for me? briefly. make it up? is there a partial police state? i think the fallacy, you know we are reacting as if the only way we can help a police state if we're having some re-creation of the nazis were some re-creation of some, you know other infamous dictatorship but i think that the architecture, it's certain not come if i had to live anywhere i would live here obviously. it's sorting not as bad here as it is in other places but the architecture of a police state is very certainly being put into place, particularly in the

there was his kgb past a long time ago.o you. this is part of his appeal and probably the woman was asked to ask the question to show his great personal side that he's a good father of his nation and he can advise people on puppies and marriage and what not. >> they say 3 million questions were submitted to him. i don't know if that's true or not. >> i saw and heard between two and three but i'm sure there were a lot of questions and every question was very carefully vetted. the puppy question would be perfect for putin because he's well known for being an animal lover and kissing dolphins and protecting puppies. >> i'm sure he said colonel, you will accept that puppy. you don't even need to say or else. just leave it at that. >> putin said that we're going to do that. >> a pleasure to see you. thanks for being with me. >>> after a quick break, we'll look at what to expect on wall street today and we'll talk about the president's bid to remove cuba from the u.s. list of terror sponsoring states and hear from a voice on the