commissioner kingsley: after both of the motions.ery importantly, and without adding or subtracting from the list of priorities, can we discuss briefly tonight, how we are going to proceed in terms of taking these priorities and getting them into our schedule over the next three, six, 12 months? one proposal that the committee discussed and would like to offer to the rest of the commission is that we 3 look at the matters and individually check-in with people that are on the commission. and tried to put together a calendaring for these items based on the next six or 12 months. not that they have to be in stone, but we have them there so they are not overlooked. of course, it would be coordinated with you, mr. president. president mazzucco: any discussion? >> i have no objection. i think it is important that we do this as a group. and perhaps we calendar at the end of february. for the next seven weeks, i will have to quit my day job. we will talk about what we will do. that is my suggestion. >> there is no objection to that. we can p

commissioner kingsley: there were three parts of our discussion.one is to follow up on a couple of motions regarding the adoption of the objectives and the criteria for setting priorities. the other motion would be to add these objectives and criteria to our website. we discussed this a little bit a couple of weeks ago, when this was on our agenda. the second part of our discussion this evening would be to look closely at the three- tiered listing of our priorities and see if there are other matters we would like to add. several items have come up since we put this list together. we could see if there are any items we want to take off the list. the third part of our discussion will become a going forward, what we want to do to build into our scheduling and calendar to make sure we address our priorities as we planned throughout the next 12 months. to this discussion, we would like to encourage the public and the chief, as well as director hicks, to join in this conversation. these are the priorities on the department's side and occ side. of course,

commissioner kingsley: after both of the motions.ery importantly, and without adding or subtracting from the list of priorities, can we discuss briefly tonight, how we are going to proceed in terms of taking these priorities and getting them into our schedule over the next three, six, 12 months? one proposal that the committee discussed and would like to offer to the rest of the commission is that we 3 look at the matters and individually check-in with people that are on the commission. and tried to put together a calendaring for these items based on the next six or 12 months. not that they have to be in stone, but we have them there so they are not overlooked. of course, it would be coordinated with you, mr. president.

commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: i know the best practice is the 40 hours, and you are taking that, but that is still a heavy trading schedules, and i can appreciate your scheduling demands and costs, and have they take anything, or is there anything that has been condensed, but not for a replacement, but something that deals with major problems and how they can be handled so that there is maybe a two to four trading that could be perhaps mostly on tape -- a two to four- hour training. that could reach all of the rest of the officers in a relatively short period of time, and then continue to have been scheduled in the 24 hour trainings, but some way to get the very core basics to everybody quickly? i am just dry that up quickly if that has been considered. >> there is the roll call training program, and the video production unit. we certainly could look at the roll call training program. this is done in a format about what you think is the proper response. a lot of times, we give a scenario to

. >> commissioner kingsley? >> mr. hart? thank you for your comment. i think that there's a great deal of merit to that comment and we'll try to do better in the future. perhaps better coordination in terms of having the document prepared and coordinating it with when the packets go out to all the commissioners. i do believe there are extra copies for any members of the public that wish to have them, that they are over on the table. but we'll try to do better in the future. and thank you for your comments. >> i'll review it again, i make mistakes like anybody else but i didn't see it in reviewing the packet, in what i received and thought it was worth a mention. >> if it's any consolation, it's not in our packet either. any further comment? hearing none -- line item number -- are we -- briefly, commissioner dejesus asked we reopen line item 5-c, scheduling of items. is that appropriate to reopen an item? >> it was five. all i want to do -- [inaudible] >> reopen 5-b for commissioner dejesus. >> i just wasn't here last week when we were talking about sch

. >> commissioner kingsley? commissioner king kingsley: i wonder if we're going to hear about the mental health training and getting clarification around the type of training that is, in fact, happening around the city and details around this, whether that won't help some of your concerns in terms of that there is departmental energy, time, and that that is a priority with the department, working on mental health training for officers that will be coming next week. so we will have that to take into consideration. i guess the other comment, and wasn't here, part of the commission, when we last took a vote in connection with tasers, but have been trying to you know, get my arms around this issue since it last came up last week and moving full ahead to be prepared for our discussion as a commission, as a whole, but i did take note to one example in the newspaper, the chronicle where a parent of an autoistic child wrote in indicating that -- autistic child wrote in indicating that they would prefer that their autist

commissioner kingsley: present. >> james slaughter is excused. also with us is the assistant chief of police and director joysticks, of the office of citizen complaints. president mazzucco: welcome to the regularly scheduled san francisco police commission hearing meeting. tonight, we are going to do some in camera disciplinary matters, but will start with a brief agenda. please call line item # 1. -- number one. >> public comment. members of the public may address the commission for a time not to exceed three minutes on items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission that do not appear on the agenda. president mazzucco: line item 4, a discussion of possible action to adopt a resolution advising criminal background checks pursuant to state law, for the purpose of investigating applicants' -- we have asked to take that off calendar. that item will not be on the agenda tonight. we can therefore move onto line item 1, concerning the business of the san francisco police department. good evening, nate. how are you? >> [unintelligible] i

. >> commissioner carol kingsley? >> present. >> commission president, you have a quorum.resident mazzucco: thank you. welcome to the december 12, -- the december 1, 2010 session. we have a light calendar, but we will have several hearings in closed session. we always move to be transparent, but these officers have rights and these matters are not for public consumption. with that in mind, please call line item number one, public comment. >> item 1, public comment. members of the public may address the police commission for a time determined by the chair, not to exceed three minutes, on items that are within the subject matter of jurisdiction of the commission but do not appear on the agenda. president mazzucco: i would like to note that with the commission tonight is the assistant chief and director from the office of civil complaints. any public comment on matters that pertain to the san francisco police department? good evening, how are you? >> good evening. my pleasure, as always. a couple quick items that came to mind. i speak for a lot of police officers. it right no

commissioner kingsley? >> i agree we have to move very quickly on this process. i'm wondering how quickly the reports prepared by the previous commissioners on the previous search can be made available to the commissioner chan, commissioner slaughter and myself who are not involved in that process. >> we discussed that. what we're going to do is meet the city attorney find out what portions of that report can be discovered to all of the commissioners. three of us have been through the process. we have four new commissioners. a lot of what's in those reports are personnel matters. and they're protected, some of the applicants who applied from both within and outside the department, obviously we don't want that information disseminated. it will affect their ability to maintain the jobs they currently have and quite frankly, we're going to be very careful about that but we will give you the reports regarding the profile that we came up with. it was an incredible profile that former president teresa sparks put together after meeting with the community and meeting wit

commissioner kingsley: present. commissioner slaughter: present. commission -- >> commission president, you have a quorum. commissioner mazzucco: welcome to the january 5, 2010 meeting of the police commission. usually, we come out to a particular neighborhood. we have the commissioners introduce themselves and tell you a little bit about themselves, what they do in their day jobs. they say the commission job is a night job and a part-time job. i think i will have a unanimous decision that it is not a part- time job. they dedicate a lot of time and money in terms of their efforts as attorneys, handling mediation, handling disciplinary cases, fielding calls from the press, and i would like to thank them for their hard work. what i would like to do is have each commissioner introduce themselves and tell you a little bit about themselves. commissioner hammer: good evening, everybody. i'm really glad and excited to be here outside city hall. i'm a third-generation san franciscan. my mother is from the sunset. my father is from the mission. irish backgr

president mazzucco: commissioner kingsley? >> thank you. to go one step forward to identify when it has resulted in a death. " thank you. president mazzucco: i just want to thank the commissioner for bringing that up about the self- inflicted wounds. sometimes the public does not appreciate that, given what offices see on a daily basis, and we pay them to work a ship where they only see mental health issues. sometimes, you have to wonder what the correlation is let's be candid about it, so, again, i commend commissioner slaughter for bringing that up. thank you for bringing that to our attention. president mazzucco: any further questions? let's move to the occ directors' report. i appreciate it. secretary falvey: the occ report. >> this evening, i will discuss occ 2011 statistics and also give you a statistical report, which i will discuss what i give the annual report. we also have on your desk the december 2010 statistics, and they're also copies available on the table. to date, in 2011, the occ has closed 22 complaints. we have mediated

. >> thank you, commissioner kingsley. >> i would like to support what commissioners hammer and dejesus said in terms of getting feed back from the

commissioner kingsley: i was the only commissioner who had not participated in this meeting on friday, until dr. marshall appeared. i just want to thank you on behalf of all the rest of the commissioners, director hicks, and the three commissioners to participated in this and are -- and are participating in an ongoing fashion. in has been earmarked by the police commission as being our number one priority. you are doing a lot of the book work and outreach on this. -- but work -- footwork and outreach on this. the training has been incredible, and the continued coordination. let us move forward into the future. on behalf of everybody else, thank you. >> you walk down a city block and see mental health issues. i witnessed two young girls offer a homeless person a cupcake, and he responded by smacking her in the head. mental health issues. the officer responded and took him in for a 5150. we are at a crisis point here. thank you, commissioners, for getting on top of this. the next part of this is a status update on the search for the chief of police. we have already picked dates where we

. >> thank you, commissioner kingsley. >> i would like to support what commissioners hammer and dejesus said in terms of getting feed back from the public. i think we have community boards and regular monthly meetings set up in the various stations for community board meetings and what we may want to do is just put that on the agenda on those meetings and have a rotation among commissioners to be at those meetings to be able to ask similar questions of all the public at the various meetings and report back to the commission as to you know, our finding. the feed back from the community. >> thank you commissioner slaughter. thank you, president mazzucco. i agree that we need to -- i guess i'm confused listening to commissioner hammer and commissioner dejesus. on one hand i hear people endorsing the process the commission went through a year and a half ago and not wanting to redo the work that has recently been done, but on the other hand, wanting and meeting. i agree we need input from the public in figuring out the best way to get it in an efficient manner. commissioners mazzucco and ham

. >> commissioner kingsley? >> mr. hart? thank you for your comment. i think that there's a great deal of merit to that comment and we'll try to do better in the future. perhaps better coordination in terms of having the document prepared and coordinating it with when the packets go out to all the commissioners. i do believe there are extra copies for any members of the public that wish to have them, that they are over on the table. but we'll try to do better in the future. and thank you for your comments. >> i'll review it again, i make mistakesik