his name is kirk murphy.or the first time on television, his family is sharing their story with us. and they're doing it because they want you to know who kirk really was. they want you to know what impact they say it had on the rest of his life. >> this is my brother, kirk. this is when he was -- >> this is the last time mark murphy remembers his brother, kirk, as a happy child. the photo was taken when kirk was 4. a year before he was placed in therapy at ucla to treat what doctors identified as exaggerat exaggerated feminine behavior. >> it left kirk with the belief that he was broken. >> kirk's sister and brother say he was never the same after therapy. >> the only thing they did is destroy our brother. they took him away from us. he was empty, nothing there. >> in 1970, kirk murphy was a smart, outgoing 5-year-old growing up near los angeles. his mother, however, was worried about him. >> well, i was becoming a little concerned about playing with the girls toys and stroking the hair, you know, the long h

about kirk?tle boy who deserved protection, respect, and unconditional love. and i don't want him to be remembered as a science experiment. he was a person. >> what happened to kirk andrew murphy isn't just a piece of history. today all around the country, children whose families are concerned they may be gay are being sent to therapy based in part on george rekers' research. >> i thought there was some legitimacy that i was an evil sinner that was going to burn in hell and for years i thought that god hated me because i was gay. >> ryan says the therapy he was forced to get drove him to drugs and into a deep depression. tomorrow in part three, you ole hear more from ryan and from the psychologist who treated him who says he's kept hundreds of children growing up to be gay. >>> still ahead, a freak accident, dozens of air force rotc cadets struck by lightning. and the soldier's youtube airline individu video that embarrassed an airline. >> we're happy to be back in america. god bless america. not

. >> what do you want people to remember about kirk, to know about kirk?ddle boy who deserved -- a little boy who deserved protection, respect, and unconditional love. and i don't want him to be remembered as a science experiment. he was a person! >> i want to bring in now behavior expert dr. webdy walsh. wendy, i'm sure you've heard of george rekers and the work that hoe did. what do you make of it? >> well, you know, my initial thought is that the american public thinks, don, that you're either gay or you're straight. when kinzey's research clearly showed that most of us lie on a continuum somewhere both in fantasy or behavior that is a scale of kinsey called is one to six. i would think if this therapy ever had any positive results it was probably because he was taking bisexual people and suppressing the homosexual part of their inclination. so he could probably try to ride on that for awhile. but i'm so disturbed to think that he would try to treat children when sexual orientation isn't even clear at five years old, let alone gender identity. it just s

he considered his work with kirk a success writing craig's feminine behavior was gone and claiming kirkguishable from any other boy. in numerous other published reports and studies over his nearly three decade career since, he has continued to write positively about kirk's treatment using it as proof homosexuality can be prevented. kirk's family has only recently discovered the writings and they're outraged. they say kirk was gay but because of the treatment he was subjected to as a child struggled with his attraction to men his whole life. >> he acknowledged himself as a gay man in 1985 on. he never had a committed loving relationship because he wouldn't allow himself to. >> unable or unwilling to have a committed relationship with a man, kirk focused on his work and chose a career where being openly gay wasn't even possible. he spent eight years in the u.s. air force and then held a high profile position with an american finance company in india. >> kirk, what do you think of your nephew? >> thp visit home in june of 2003 was the last time kirk's family saw him alive. nearly six month

. >> what do you want people to remember about kirk, to know about kirk?ved protection, respect and unconditional love. and i don't want him to be remembered as -- as a science experiment. he was a person. >> want to spring in now behavior expert dr. wendy walsh. wendy, i'm sure you've heard of george rekers and the work that he did. what do you make of it? >> well, you know, my initial thought is that, you know, the american public thinks, don, you're either gate or you're straight. when the research clearly shows that most of us lie on a continuum somewhere, both in fantasy and behavior, that's a scale. it was called 1-6 so i would think if this therapy had any positive results, it was probably because he was taking bisexual people and suppressing the homosexual part of their inclination. so he could probably try to ride on that for a while, but i'm so disturbed to think that he would try to treat children when sexual orientation isn't even clear at 5 years old, led alone gender identity. it just seems like it's not the developmental window to even begin

kirk's family's allegations that george rekurs' therapy caused kirk to take his own life are just that- allegations. >> i'd like to talk to you about your therapy that you did with kraig? >> reporter: he didn't respond to cnn's repeated requests for an interview, so our producers track him down in florida to ask him about the murphy family's allegations. would you just talk to us for a second about your therapy with the patient named kraig? >> it's published. >> we've interviewed kraig's family recently. they say the therapy you did with him as a child led directly to his suicide as an adult. what do you say about that? >> i didn't know that. that's too bad. >> you're not aware of his suicide? >> no. >> what do you say to the family if they say that the therapy that you did with him as a child led to his suicide as an adult? >> well, i think scientifically that would be inaccurate to assume that it was the therapy. but i do grieve for the parents now that you've told me that news. i think that's very sad. >> he pointed out that his work with kirk took place decades before his suicide.

his name is kirk murphy.e on television, his family is sharing their story with us. they're doing it because they want you to know who kirk really was. they want you to know what he went through, and they want you to know what impact they say it had on the rest of his life. here's anderson cooper's special report. >> this is my brother kirk andrew murphy. this is when he was supposed to be -- >> reporter: this is the last time mark murphy remembers his brother kirk as a happy child. the photo was taken when kirk was 4, a year before he was placed in experimental therapy at ucla to treat what doctors identified as exaggerated feminine behavior. >> it left kirk just totally stricken with the belief that he was broken. that he was different from everybody else. >> reporter: kirk's sister and brother say kirk was never the same after therapy. >> the om thing they did was destroy our brother. they took him away from us. he was empty. nothing there. >> reporter: in 1970, kirk murphy was a smart, outgoing 5-year-old

kirk's family says the torment brought on by the therapy is why kirk took his own life.ekers argues there's no way to prove his therapy had anything to do with kirk's suicide decades later. >> george rekers has done a lot of research. he's done a lifetime of research. if there's somebody who committed suicide, that's tragic. but we have to look at the body of literature. that's what we're relying on. >> reporter: nicolosi claims science supports the idea that people are not born gay. >> we say that homosexuality is an adaptation to an emotional breach with the parents, primarily parents of the same sex or for the boy, it's an emotional breach, a failure to bond with the father. >> dr. joseph nicolosi simply makes things up when it comes to science. >> reporter: wayne besen is with the organization truth wins out 679 >> he says a person who is a gay man is a distant father. i was an all-city basketball player in high school and am incredibly close to my father. >> reporter: the american psychiatric association opposes reparative therapy, saying the risks are great, includ

the study claim kirk's treatment was a success.l name in the study calling him craig to protect his real identity. that secret is why it's taken so long for his real story to be told. recently her sister learned that little boy was the boy in that study, still being cited as a success by people who think they can prevent children from becoming gay. but the truth is that kirk's story ended tragically. he killed himself when he was 38 years old. his family says he was harmed by the treatment he received as a 5-year-old child and struggled with being gay his entire adult life. jim burrow writes a blog called box turtle.com. he studied the research done on murphy. i talked to him. >> jim, how did you first hear about kirk's story? >> well, maris, kirk's sister actually left a comment on my blog one night. and i came across it and responded to her. and the comment was that i had just found out that my brother, kirk, had been the subject of all this research. and i'm devastated. and i kind of wanted to reach out to see if i could help he

trade representative ron kirk. kirk also is the former major of dallas. darren began by asking why it's been so hard to pass these trade agreements. >> well, because you're in washington. and everything is, you know, everything is hard in this town. but the reason that we took the time to look at korea and panama and colombia, not just from the standpoint of what does it take to pass them, but look at them in the broader context, that what 95% of the world's consumers somewhere other than the united states, part of our success in the future is going to be linked to our ability to take more of what we make, manufacture, innovate, create here in the u.s. and share it with the world. and so within that you've got to have a trade policy that not only speaks to those that say hey, pass these agreements, get going, we need the market access but you've also got to have a trade policy that reflects those that say we want to make sure our trade reflects our core values. particularly how you ought to treat workers. not just here but also around the world. and that

it bothered me because i wanted kirk to grow up and have a normal life. >> reporter: to treat kirk'sedly placed in a room with two tables and observed through a one-way window. he was given toys to play with and could choose between traditionally masculine ones like plastic knives and guns or feminine toys like dolls. and he could choose clothing to wear. army hat, military fatigues or a girl's dress, jewelry and a wig. his family says the impact of the experimental therapy lasted his entire life. >> he had no idea how to relate to people. it was like somebody walked up turned off his light switch. we got what we wanted and we'll see you later. >> he actually ate his lunch in the boy's bathroom for three years, where he didn't have to put himself out there. even just to have a friend. >> it's a story you really don't want to miss. this "ac 360" special scarpen therapy meant to keep feminine boys from growing up gay. tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. >>> frustration announced for the long-term unemployed. >> they list the jobs, but are they really going to call new for an intervie

the photo was taken when kirk was 4.ear before he was placed in an experimental therapy at ucla to treat what doctors identified as exaggerated feminine behavior. >> it left kirk just totally stricken with the belief that he was broken, that he was different from everybody else. >> reporter: kirk's sister, marris, and brother mark, say kirk was never the same after therapy. >> the only thing they did was destroy our brother. they took him away from us. he was empty. nothing there. >> reporter: in 1970, kirk murphy was a smart, outgoing 5-year-old, growing up near los angeles. his mother, kt murphy, however, was worried about him. >> well, i was becoming a little concerned about playing with the girls' toys, and stroking the long hair and stuff. i was seeing effeminate mannerisms that bothered me, because i wanted kirk to grow up and have a normal life. >> reporter: to treat kirk's so-called sissy behavior, he was repeatedly placed in a room with two tables. he was observed through a one hadden way window. he was given to

kirk's family says the torment brought on by the therapy is why kirk took his own life.argues there's no way to prove his therapy had anything to do with kirk's suicide decades later. >> george rekers has done a lot of research. he's done a lifetime of research. if there's somebody who committed suicide, that's tragic. but we have to look at the body of literature. that's what we are relying on. >> reporter: nicolosi claims science supports the idea that people are not born gay. >> we say that homosexuality is an adaptation to an emotional breach with the parents, primarily parents of the same sex or for the boy, it's an emotional breach, a failure to bond with the father. >> dr. joseph nicolosi simply makes things up when it comes to science. >> reporter: wayne bessen is an advocate for gay equality with the organization truth wins out. >> he says a person who is a gay man is a distant father and isn't good at sports. i, for example, was an all-city basketball player in high school and am incredibly close to my father. >> reporter: the american psychiatric association o

kirk >> tatiana shared one of her favorite memories of her father. >> when i gave him a lollipop, i was sitting on his lap, i put my lollipop in his mouth and he was laughing. that is the only figure i like. >> what you think about all of these people here? >> i am happy because everyone is coming here to join because i miss my dad a lot. >> kron 4 spoke ring the attorney for the grant family, he says the family is dealing with mehserle's release as best they can but will continue to fight for justice. >> there is a sense of the system itself failed them in a large measure with a relatively short sentence. there is an acknowledgement that this process has come to an end and the only recourse now produce hoping that the justice department which is conducting an investigation, will take further action. we do have a civil suit going forward. current >> 40 mi. away from where oscar grant was killed is and the home town of zepa and johannes mehserle in napa. we went there to see what residents had to say. bonds >> i think that he should be out of jail. i do not think he should have gone to j

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without further adieu, i want to welcome ambassador kirk and margaret warner and welcome the intel who demonstrated interest over the years and we really appreciate it and everyone does too. aisle pass it to doug, and thank you for being here. >> thank you, jamie, and thank you all for being here this afternoon. a special appreciation, of course, to ambassador kirk and margaret warner for leading the discussion this afternoon. this is the latest of events that intel and the news hour joined to discuss the crucial policies to be addressed if the united states is going to stay at the forefront of the global economy. today's discussion will focus on trade issues. from the perspective of a company like intel, there's something artificial about thinking of issue the in the conventional way as if they with issues regarding the boundaries between one nation's economy and the economies of other nations, and there's something artificial of referring to nations as trading partners. that's because we already live in a single global economy. inned, for example, manufactures more than half of its m

kirk, for mr. mccain proposes amendment numbered 493. mr. kirk: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from illinois. kirk cork i ask to be recognized for -- mr. kirk: i ask to be recognized in morning business for ten minutes. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. kirk: thank you, madam president. under general petraeus, the deployment of a local army is critical to winning a war. in iraq, he used extra u.s. troops to sustain military momentum against an enemy until a well-trained local army was trained and ready for action. petraeus had the time he needed to stand up a 500,000-man local army and then won the war. this has also been his model for afghanistan. while iraq and afghanistan differ, the military challenge was the same: iring's to train and deploy a local army that could sustain a fight until victory. now, starting with nothing, the united states and our nato allies set a goal of building an afghan army and police force to eventually number 400,000. by reaching this goal, the combat mission of the u.s. and other nato forces would di

kirk, good morning. >> reporter: sydnie and frank, good morning to you. right now, that suspect is being held on that parole violation. that's very important because essentially what it has done is stopped the clock until charges can be filed. giovanni ramirez is scheduled to appear in court this morning at a parole hearing. as part of the hearing, the prosecution has to present very little evidence to convince the judge to hold ramirez for a full parole violation hearing. lapd detectives interviewed giovanni ramirez's 10-year-old daughter and her mother as they gave statements at an lapd station yesterday. ramirez's attorney says his client was with his 10-year-old daughter the night bryan stow was beaten at dodger stadium. the lapd maintains ramirez is still their suspect. chief charlie beck says they have more evidence than just eyewitnesses. he confirmed ramirez took a lie detector test but wouldn't discuss the results. chief beck says charges will be filed in the near future. >> my job is not to prepare a case for media. my job is not to prepare a ca

kirk: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from illinois. mr. kirk: madam president, i rise today with great concern -- the presiding officer: the senate in a quorum call. mr. kirk: i ask for the disptiodispensization of the qum call and to proceed in morning business. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. kirk: today i rise to speak about a program that was just revealed in the sunday "new york times," outstanding work called "uses plan: stealth survey on access to doctors." i am asking my colleagues to join in a letter sharing concern with the legality, standards, and repercussions of this program. i have deep concerns regarding the department's recent plans for this so-called stealth survey, its legality, the notification to congress, the lack of standards for any misconduct or bad reporting by the staff hired to carry out this work, and looking clandestinely at american doctors and their paragraph medicine. the cost and proposed clandestine method of collecting information on physician offices is questionable, and, therefore, i'm goi

i am looking forward to our discussion today in hearing from ambassador kirk. i'm a turnover to our moderator, margaret warner. >> thank you, so much doubt. as dad just said, this is an ongoing discussion about how we can foster an innovation economy. the topic today really focuses on how this global -- how do global market and global trade contribute, not only to nurturing innovation economy here at home, but the kind of economy that produces high-paying good jobs for american employees and workers. so our featured guest is special trade representative, ambassador ron kirk, the former mayor of dallas. we were having an off the record talk about the dallas mavericks before you came in, but we promise not to quote them. as a long-time practicing attorney and secretary of state before serving seven years as mayor, been elected twice. and president obama appointed into this job ipod price once called the best job in washington. i hope people feel that way. right at the outset of the administration. work trying to start with a 15 minute chat between the two of us t

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our featured guest is special trade representative ambassador ron kirk, former mayor of dallas. we had a chat about the dallas mavericks before we came in, but we promise not to quote him. [laughter] he was a long time practicing attorney and secretary of state before serving seven years as mayor being elected twice, and president obama appointed him to this job that bob once called the best job in washington. i hope you feel that way, but right at the outset of the administration, so we're going to start with just a sort of 15 minute chat between the two of us to lay the table on these issues, and then i want to invite everybody in with their questions and comments. a couple notes -- when you want to speak, press the red button in front of you, and just so i can sort of know who wants to speak, just put your table card, let's see if this works, on the side, and i'll know, after 10 minutes or so, but let me start with you ambassador, what do you think has been achieved in the last two years with trade policy and practice that has helped foster an innovative economy here at home,

james, you will ask the question next, after kirk. >> i think we can do a policy city-wide. we talked about budget coordination across departments. i think we are doing better in terms of that, but we can do better in how we manage our dollars. as an example, there will be 30,000 individuals on medical, but we may need to change the models where we do our work. particularly because of the noon rfp that came up -- that is something we will be addressing to the hiv prevention office, to find that the gaps are going to pay. that is something we are going to address with you. >> thank you. >> i did probably offer a small and interesting example about how the city sometimes does budget averaging social capital. the recreation and parks department has an outstanding partnership with the department of children and youth and families. they gave us funding so we can hire 125 kids from district 10 to help us provide summer camp for younger kids. and they're also providing us with funding to make sure our kids have healthy meals to eat. i think that is a way, at least internally, that

kids like kirk are being sent to something called reparative therapy.t's part three of our 360 investigation. uncovering the truth. those stories and more at the top of the hour. more piers morgan in a moment. >>> so one of the little known things i think about you is this extraordinary story on 9/11. you had an office in cantor fitzgerald's office block. a friend of yours allowed you some office space, and you were 20 minutes late for work. you were going to go in to work that day and just weren't quite on time as you would have been. >> i was sitting at the "good morning america" studios actually. i went there this week and they remembered. i was rushing saying come on, come on, i've got to go to the office. the office was on the 101st floor and the window. and little red, my doll that stands like that was in the window looking down manhattan. i remember leaving the gma studios and heading down and then we stopped. as we left the studios, we saw the airplanes going into the 101st floor. >> when you realized what was happening to the people in there an

the place to be just like the giants ballpark but only 10,005:56 to watch it kick it around tonight, kirknow it baltimore is up 4-0. they hang on to win 4- 2. the as have now lost 7 straight games. three straight, the oakland athletics lose to the yankees at home, then three straight to boston they open a series on the road losing to geo gonzalez and company lose together the baltimore orioles. this is pretty cute. cal baseball on to the super regionals in the most dramatic fashion. >>> the third, pitch, he scores, run the flip. he's safe. cannot believe it. >> i'm going to -- i'm going to guess that's a campus broadcaster. terrific. they beat bailor despite fiver ors they advance to super regionals. they're going to face dallas baptist next. devin, the majority of the game. they come back to win it 9-8, as you heard the play by play broadcaster. all right, boston back in the stanley cup final series versus vancouver ugly hit. down goes erin rome -- or excuse me down goes horton after rome received a 5 minute penalty. horton ends up in the local hospital but was moving his extremities. ha

patty: it's so easy, even kirk could do it. >> pakastani intelligence experts believe the u.s.rone killed and al qaeda commander, it cannot and militants, one was believed to keep ilius who was wanted in the 2008 attack on an indian hotel that killed nearly 160 people. he also trained the militant group that is an offshoot of al qaeda. union president is now in saudi arabia after being wounded in a rocket attack on his palace. tribesmen are being blamed for the assault. yemen is on the edge of collapse. jonathan explains why that could affect people on of the world. >> to a country with a history of civil war, tribal politics and don't strong national identity, at par to become a regional rebellions, and al qaeda insurgency and a gun collection that has weapons of almost every home and you have given. then led demands for democracy to the region and then into are protesters to challenge the longtime dictator. the result, a country close to collapse. how the president has survived nearly 33 years of wars and uprisings and is not about to quit now. under pressure from protesters

scientists and some pages kirk of research the peculiarities of the mountains ice and snow there is also surprising as it turns out an ice rupture generates a radio wave the can be located. i mean the most interesting thing about it is that radio frequency emissions take place shortly before. it makes it a piece means it's possible to full cost as well as record i sharing. this can be done if only for a short time before just an hour or so. experiments with snow by the scientists have also demonstrated that during its slide an avalanche two emits radio waves. here tonight that is that radio missions are generated by a small snow crystals rubbing against one another is there reason evidence pointing to the existence of radio frequency radiation even in a visible range people are seeing light coming from nighttime avalanches. for the time being it is possible to focused avalanches only a few seconds ahead special radio receivers they use for the purpose. of mountain anaya on the southern side of lake baikal is known for its fluffy snow it is light soft and powdery freeriding fans need to d

trade representative ron kirk. also tomorrow, have financial stocks bottomed? it's the worst sector so far this year. our market monitor will be bernie schaeffer, chairman of schaeffer's investment research. >> susie: chrysler is recalling thousands of cars and minivans due to a manufacturing problem that can cause the steering to fail. the recall affects 12 models in the 2011 model year and spans across product lines. it includes the chrysler 200 and town and country. several dodge vehicles are on the list, like the avenger, caliber and grand caravan. the recall also impacts several jeep models, including the compass, liberty, patriot and wrangler. >> tom: toyota continues recovering from japan's devastating earthquake. it now thinks production here in the u.s. will be back to pre-quake levels by september. that's about two months earlier than expected, and six months after its supply chain came undone. eight of the 12 models it sells here are already back to full production. >> susie: kids are getting out of school, and many americans will soon hit the road f

sunday he leaves a wife and two children the president of the russian football union said kate forcing kirk described the death as a great tragedy adding the r.f.u. would do all it could to help mr pettus family. now staying with football an english premier league club chelsea have confirmed they're interested in hiring and revealed ash bosses their manager the announcement comes hours after europe's hottest coach quit as the trainer of portuguese champions porto a twenty one million dollars buyout clause in his contract is also said to have been paid it currently remains unclear who covered the expenses previous reports him to both the coach himself and russian chelsea were prepared to splash out thirty three year old did as well as won a trouble with porto last season taking the domestic league title in cup as well as the europa league crown and he's been replaced by his former assistant coach peter or cara within hours of his resignation. has also been a managerial appointment in the russian premier league is that a gay so again has been promoted to take full charge of deny my wasco at l

they build fish by laughing munition but every day every day you will see their courage people that kirk is you with they go to street to protest against bashar i said but it beats every day they are asking to art set off by shot i said and and i have been accountable in front of the international court then how would you explain this shift the took place for nearly fifty years from a democracy to. a talk recy yet when when syria has a democracy and institutions that balance bharti came all over and take their boa in nine hundred sixty three and sense nine hundred sixty three there is no free and fair elections we have one monopoly. bharti according to the constitution article eight the bad part is that they lead their own in this state and the society and this is actually destroy all the traditions that the syrian have in their fifty's regarding their short of democratic period and this is why we need to board our democracy again and and this is the main point for this syrians we need a democratic system transparency we need accountability and we need the right for their people to choos

off the host by seven wickets on the web and stay the windies while the story brightly were in hand kirk edwards especially lively but career best figures were in one for one indian bowler legspinner mishra absolutely running riot with the ball helping himself to four wickets when just thirty one runs the west indies finishing up their innings on two hundred forty four nine. india would lose shikar down early on but after that it was all one way tourist traffic top scorer kohli a joy to watch his stroke filled eighty one seeing balls blasted all over the place seven boundaries and all for the middle order my. compliment of towards the end by twenty six from sheer rush raina including the winning runs india taken by seven wickets with much three down for the special on sunday. and basketball russia have unveiled are extended line up for next week's european championships two players will still need to be cut though giving head coach sokol all speak plenty of food for thought with the tournament last approaching. them just before we leave for poland we'll have another chris conference wher