yeah. >>> i have a question about the kkk. so, i know this is, like, you're allowed the freedom of assembly and all that, if you're an organization but if they're doing what they're doing, wouldn't that be against the constitution? you're infringing on people's rights, so you shouldn't exist as an organization? >> exactly. the bill of rights, that gives us the basic protections, that's part of our constitution but black people were never seen as part of it. very few people believed it including african-americans under those protections, right? in fact, according to many abolitionests, african-americans couldn't be held as slaves because you're violating all things in the bill of rights but southerners are like this does not apply to blacks. the bill of rights is all about individual rights. during reconstruction, they start giving positive rights in terms of the right to vote becomes a definition of citizenship. before that, the right to vote wasn't. a lot of people couldn't vote in the united states. african-americans couldn'

the kkk is definitely in decline, but we see so many other groups.january 6th of this year, groups that are committed to a white supremacist racist ideology. they, many of them, fell into support for donald trump, and we see their numbers on the rise. we see, for example, a survey from the splc in august 2020 revealing that 29% of americans say that they personally know someone who believes white people are of a superior race. all of your efforts to reach out, to engage dialogue, to change people's minds, in 2021 united states, they appear to be failing big time. well, i would tend to disagree with you because i know that over 200 people have left that ideology as a result of either being in direct contact with me or indirect contact with me. isn't the truth that this isn't about reaching individuals, it is about analysing systems? and increasingly, in black america, there is a belief that what we're dealing with here is institutionalised, systemic racism that, for all of the achievements of the civil rights movement, hasn't yet delivered freedom and

>> i just have a question about the kkk. i know this is like you're allowed the freedom of assembly and all that if you're an organization. but if they're doing what they're doing wouldn't that be against like the constitution? you're infringing on other people rights therefore you shouldn't really exist as an organization? >> absolutely. you see what has happened is that the bill of rights that gives us all those basic protections, right, that's part of the constitution. black people were never seen as part of that. very few people abolitionist radical republicans believed in including african-americans under those protections. in fact, according to many abolitionists, according to the bill of rights african-americans couldn't be held as slaves because you're violating all kind of things, right in the bill of rights. this is the question. now the, bill of rights was all about individual rights, right? during reconstruction they start giving positive rights you know in terms of the right to vote becomes a definition of citiz

from 1919 and by about 1920, it's over even though some of the legacies live on like the kkk was popular into the mid 20s. and so the red scare was largely manufactured by -- i hesitate to say the media, but it was, and just simply publishing all of these stories about immigrants and how many people are coming here who don't speak english, and all of the strikes that are taking place throughout the country. so during world war i, we've instituted like a no pay raise for any lost to curb inflation, and then after the war is over, people want raises and they're not getting them, and so they launched all of these strikes. people say, well, that can't be those true blooded americans, it must be those god blooded communists. once the strikes peter out and there was an episode of some communist sympathizer mailing bombs to some pretty important people throughout the country, and then that sort of died away, so it just naturally died a pretty quick death. people get tired of being terrified all the time and so they simply moved on. >> there have been so many fantastic questions tonight, and cle

damar in his home was this guy, his name is sam bowers, he was the head of the white knights in the kkk, responsible for at least ten killings in mississippi that we know of. bowers was tried but had never been convicted in this case. so after the vernon damar family met with me, they went and met with the district attorney, who acted interested and then over time got cold feet. he had an excuse, and then when that got taken care of, he had another excuse. and then when that one got taken care of, he had another excuse. so you get the picture. and then another district attorney came in. they were like starting over from square one. it just looked like nothing was going to happen. so i got a fellowship to ohio state to go get my masters, they were going to pay me and let me get my masters for free. i said, that sounds like a good deal. and so i'm literally in ohio, in spring of 1997, when i get this telephone call from this guy who wouldn't identify himself, wouldn't give me his name but wanted to meet with me. so i flew back to mississippi. i met with him. and a buddy of his, two sons o

one of the bill's most controversial parts removes a requirement to teach the kkk and white supremacymorally wrong. >> let us teach without being dominated by the state of texas legislature. >> reporter: at least seven other states have adopted similar laws already. it's a national fight over what children learn and who gets to make that decision. >> enough! enough! >> reporter: in school board meetings they're getting out of control. >> you need to be arrested! >> reporter: parents accusing schools of pushing an agenda. >> hearing the condolences given to other races and leaving just one race out, it inevitably you start to feel like you've done something wrong. >> reporter: the heart of the debate focuses on critical race theory, or crt. it's a decades-old theory arguing that racism has been built into the institutions of our nation and looks at racism through a systemic lens. >> critical race theory is this theory that orange naipted in law schools. legal scholars turned to the law. they turned to institutions, purnd turned to policies to understand how discrimination was perpetuat

joined the comments party and all this other stuff but it turned out he was this fascist, using the kkk and at this big noble and a few years later would try to blackmail a journalist who had revealed his hard right wing past, and then was caught and sent to jail basically. you had some pretty shady characters who are lining up against the project at the time. but also just people at the usual kind of criticism of the project like this and wanted to everything. henry allsbrook and the federal theater project go up and fund committee because he won to what you're doing. flanagan was this great character, she was the defend of the project did in caucus because was very eloquent and feisty. you had this legendary mind when one of the people on the committee was asking about someone and this caucus is like who is this? she said he's a playwright. tell us who he is for the record. she said something like he was the greatest dramatist of the thomas shakespeare and everyone laughed because they thought this was some radical guy in york city undermining the project but, of course, he wasn't. sh

book kamala harris in charge of this many months ago and she's the same person compared ice to the kkkg should be made legal, she said at a candidate, she should be put in charge of this so is this intentional? change the demographics and places like texas, arizona. >> no doubt it intentional. this is by far as bad thing are in afghanistan, this is the biggest catastrophe political catastrophe we have in our country today. politicians could have saved themselves to truly dollars and soldier's lives and a lot of misery in afghanistan, instead of spending 20 years there, they secured our borders and make sure we knew who's coming into our country and we let in people who wanted to be part of our country and didn't let in people who don't want to be part of our country except to tear it down. >> easy question, quick answer for you as far as joe biden put in office for more than 210 days divisive the border despite the catastrophe down there, will he ever do that? >> immigration policies are creating national security crisis, potentially will have 2 million people crossing the southern bor

and racist organizations like the kkk, formed right after the civil war, specifically with the goal of gun control, with getting the guns away from african-americans. as long as the freed men had guns they would be able to fight back and so they took to gathering in big groups, going out at night in costume and disguise, large numbers, the reason they were in large numbers because the african-americans had guns and they wanted to out number the african-americans. african-americans at that time refused to give up their guns and fought to keep their firearms. also sort of sharing charlton heston's view from my cold, dead hands. unfortunately for some they found their guns were taken from cold, dead hands. >> your book flashes forward 100 years from that to the turmoil of the 1960s and makes to me a surprising connection between the black panthers and the rise of a modern gun rights movement. can you explain that a little bit? >> well, i tell the story in "gunfight" of one of the most remarkable incidents in the history of guns and gun control which was the day in may of 1967 when a group

resist organizations like the kkk formed right after the civil war. specifically with the goal of gun control. getting the guns away from african americans. as long as the freemen had guns they would be able to fight back. it took to gathering in big groups. going out a night. in the disguise. in large numbers. the reason why they were in large numbers as because they had guns, they want to outnumber african americans. african americans at the time thought valiantly to keep their firearms. also from charleston's, view from my cold, dead hands, and partially for some, they found their guns were taken from their cold, dead, hands. >> your book flashes from that to in the 1960s, it makes a surprising connection between the black panthers and the rise of the modern gun rights movement. can you explain that a little bit? >> i tell the story of one of the most remarkable incidents of gun control, which was the day in may of 1967 where a group of black panther is go to the california state capital in california with loaded shotguns, rifles, and pistols, they

loose i started to get tons of e-mails and messages that we will meet up if you are discriminatory or kkkan you say these things don't you know brown people made yoga? so the whole thing was amazing. and then they went on tucker carlson to talk about this so let everybody know first that is not the purpose of it. and then after i did that show i got a ton of e-mails that said and then to use go back in time and separate the races again? and that's what started as. along with everything else. and this is just my personal experience. and then we got together and so we have to stop that. >> so what does that look like you get a phone call or a text from your mom i have a crazy idea so how you came on board with the book? >> it with that belief system. >> it's interesting to live in a time of the champion of freedom to stand up for your own freedom. >> and like you said, standing up the reason i signed on was i keep my opinions to myself but then you get to this point you just cannot hold back anymore you are so irritated you just try to be nice and go along but then if you don't stand up and

consider harris agree that all illegal border crossings should be made legal and compared ice to the kkk one press conference on this in her role began 140 days ago. you would think after the dire comments caught on tape that nbc, cbs and the recent news cast watched by putting million people would've covered it but they barely touched it because britney spears took major president not saying that she hasn't a story but there's no reason you can't do both. by the way, i want to debut this. and it is completely original, right? i got you. >> leo: i've been had. he got me. thank you, joe. thank you, tom. joe, can you tell i'm blushing right now? thank you, everybody. appreciate it. coming up, crime continues to surge in chicago and mayor lightweights disaster leadership and one of two brothers accused of killing a chicago cop. telling you about that next as is a very special edition of sean hannity continues. ♪♪ if you think you or a deceased loved one was harmed by opioids like hydrocodone, oxycodone, codeine, or roxicodone, or, if you care for a child that was exposed in the womb to thes

i started to get tons of e-mails and messages saying you are not see or kkk or racist or white supremacistow can you say these things and don't you know brown people, i'm sorry my indian friends were brown. i think i know they started yoga but it was amazing. and then i went on tucker carlson and i said let everybody know that is not the purpose. after that i got a ton of e-mails. and then black graduation. and this is just my personal experience. and that we have to stop it. >> my mother always for her belief systems and with that champion of freedom where standing up for your own opinion or belief. >> and standing up for your viewpoints the reason i signed on was we been pretty quiet i keep my opinions to myself and you get to this point where you just cannot hold back anymore. you are so irritated and you just try to be nice and go along but if you don't stand up and say something and then it is absolute insanity and it seems like we already take that first step. so i have been quiet most of my life it's time to stop being quiet by get my opinion out there before being completely insane

if you look at columbia or the ira, or kkk in the u.s., all of these groups some sort of extreme radicalhoughts, the first thing they do is make sure they get settlements to start recruiting and making people believe in them. i think going forward in this new chapter, we see right now some sort of order. i think the bloodshed has stopped. promising whether the taliban will work with other groups, all minority, that will determine the fate of whether isis can resist or not. a strong government will not --it requires afghan leaders and a strong kabul administration. >> you are saying the more inclusive the taliban government is, the more ethnic, religious, various different groups are part of some sort of government, the less of the threat they face from isil. but, we know iso-is targeted -- isil has a targeted certain groups in the past. could that deepen isil's opposition to the taliban? >> in some ways it could. when i talk about inclusiveness, i many taliban to be able to form a government and you bring the opposition, the resisting forces. the leaders in pakistan and uae, the leadersh

baiting 15 for slavery as a national issue to say folks in boston in chicago are not the members of the kkkut who were okay with the way in which jackson mississippi was organizing. there are folks like joe manchin, or kristen cinema who are coddling in the name of a commitment to him procedural rule. f it's not only the winter, it's those members of the two thirds who are willing to stand silently as the one third grabbed the country by the throw. he would say one third and one quarter of the population would typically have. the nonsense that's coming out of people who i didn't associate with nonsense in the past i associated them with ideological believes that were not necessarily the same as mine but we can always debate them it's fascinating. david i want to learn -- new to listen to what rand paul said let's discuss it on the other side. >> it's time for us to resist. they can't arrest all of us. they can't keep all your kids home from school. we don't have to accept the mandates, lockdowns, harmful power -- policies and democrats. we can simply say no not again. we will make our own h

racist in nature is the easiest way to say it, whether he was the guy in blackface are the guys in the kkkfit. he didn't step down. governor cuomo doesn't seem like is going anywhere. says of the state legislature chooses to not impede or remove cuomo it will be sending the signal of this behavior but not consequential. the message is clear: sexual harassment is wrong unless you're sufficiently politically powerful because in those circumstances people are willing to avert their eyes and pretend it didn't happen. where do you put the odds on him leaving office either by resignation or impeachment or sticking around? >> i think it's 50/50. i live in virginia, so i remember when governor northam was on the ropes and every democrat in the state was calling for him to resign. today this moment, he is still the governor. we don't know what's going to happen to andrew cuomo. there were not calls for impeachment and the rattling of those charges in the virginia state legislature like there are in new york. so we really don't know. i think one of the open questions is, i saw that piece just before

messages through this we are going to say you are discriminatory, your kkk, white supremacist, how could you say these things in this day and age? you know around people made your? is funny because my indian friends were kind of brown by think i know they started the whole thing was amazing. i went on tucker carlson to talk about this and i sent tucker, let everybody know first, that was not the purpose of. i got an e-mail and i said thank you, we are sick of this division and separations and black graduation, isn't this going back in time? i say yes and that's what started this concern of mine along with everything else i'm seen, this is not where it started when i encountered this but is it getting worse over years and this is my personal experience. we got together and we decided we should bring this to the attention and we have to stop it. >> you've got a phone call or text, you came on board with the book. >> my mother, it was not a new thing. >> it's interesting that we live in a time where standing up to standing in your belief is stirring the pot. >> the reason i stand out in my

there are those who aren't the members of the kkk who weren't rabid segregationists but who were okaye way in which jackson, mississippi was organized. there are those folks like joe manchin and sinema who are coddling in the name of a commitment to a procedural rule. it is not only the one-third. it is those portions, the members of the two-thirds who are willing to stand silently by as the one-third grabs the country by the throat. >> which gives them more power than you would think one-third or one-quarter of the population would normally have. the nonsense out of people i didn't associate with nonsense in the past. i associated them with beliefs that weren't exactly the same as mine but we could always debate them, david, is fascinating. i want you to listen to what rand paul posted a video to twitter today. let's discuss it on the other side. >> it's time for us to resist. they can't arrest all of us. they can't keep all of your kids home from school. we don't have to accept the mandates, lockdowns, and harmful policies of the petty tyrants and bureaucrats. we can simply say, no.

you this detail, more than half the people that worked for the meridian police department were in the kkk. in fact, one of the main shooters in the murder party of the three civil rights workers was alan wayne roberts whose brother lee was on the meridian police department. so you follow saying there was very close connection between the sovereignty commission and -- >> there was almost no distinction. >> correct. >> so now i want to talk about the story telling a little bit and specifically sources because i know that you have a very strong relationship with mara lee evers that goes beyond just a reporter who covers a trial. i think your work has been really important because if anyone knows the history of the clarion-ledger that when all this was happening before it was called "the clarion-ledger" and when it was owned by the headerman family we talked about the state being complicit in allowing some of this brutality to exist but what was before it became the clarion-ledger was really a strong proponent of segregation. and when you were doing these stories 20, 30 years later, it was pr

scare, and ushered in an era of hyper nationalism which among other things brought a rebound of the kkk and other extremist organizations in the u.s.. hoover wrote in his diary that in the beginning of march 1919, the bread given to the population was so heavy and indigestible -- and there was a little meat, and no fat to cook meals, that there were too few calories, and the dye itself was revolting. internal conditions and germany together with a hopelessness from an economic point of view hoover wrote reduced the population to a state of despair and which there are only two classes of people. there are either those who are afraid of communism, or those who have already converted to communism. as either inevitable evil, or as a possible solution. when the work of the ara came to an end in 1919, and most government support anded, hoover transformed into a charitable organization that continue to feed children into the early 1920s. two of these organizations that continue to live on today are unicef, and care. they were financed fully through private donations and as a private group, the

getting tons of e-mails and messages through meet up saying you are discriminatory and you are a and a kkkist and a white supremacist and how can you say these things in this day and age and don't you know and it was funny i was with my indian friends. but the whole thing was amazing and eventually the site got pulled. i went on the show to talk about this and i said hey tecra let everybody know first that was not the purpose of it. after did that show i got it time of e-mails in the said thank you, thank you. we are so sick of this division and sick of these separations and a black dorm floor in the black graduation. is this going back in time and races and i say yes. that's what started this concern of mine along with everything else we have been seeing. this is not where it started when i countered this but it was getting worse over the years and this was my personal experience. we got together and decided we should bring this to people's attention and we said we have to stop it. >> dave what is that look like? to get a phonecall and a text from your mom and she says hey of a crazy idea

broke loose and i started getting tons of e-mails and messages saying we're going to -- you're a nazi, kkk or races a white supremacist. how can you say these things in this day and age? don't you know brown people made yoga? it was funny because i was -- my indian friends were brown and i'm like i kind of thing i know they started yoga but the whole thing was amazing. eventually the site got pulled. i went on talk across and talk about this and i said tucker, he selectively no first she does not want a white only group only. after did that show i got a ton of e-mail which it thank you, thank you, thank you, were so sick of this division got sick of these separations, sick of these black dorm floors and a black graduation. isn't this just going back in time and separating the races again? and i say yes. that was what started this concern of mine along with everything else we've been saying since -- this is not where it started when i encountered this but it has been getting worse over the years and this was my personal experience. dave and i got together and we decided we should bring this

there, there was still some, i can remember working at a riot the kkk had initiated. later on down the road all the way through 1996. for disasters, floods we're using using the floods in georgia during that time. which was really in the '90s. how were you mobilized we were trained for actual events not that many really. i would say if you are immobilized for what you would call a >> disturbance, or a natural disaster those occasions would have been may be every one or two years. >> dear civilian responsibility how my tanks as you have a unit? >> we had to tank platoons and we had two personal carriers. so that was eight tanks. plus one the commander wrote in the tank there were nine tanks. >> where did you train did you run around the griffin area? >> those things were not actually here. we had one to train on fort bennett, a lot of that. >> for summers or the weekend? >> for summers and long weekends we would do it where it's a saturday, sunday drill. >> most of the time when you're at home station you were in training as military subjects? >> that's right, that's r

balm plots buy in so misogynist, the emergence of the kkk plot against the black man by florida corrections officers just to name a few. elsewhere in north america, in canada, anti-asian hate crime rose, another mass homicide against a muslim family, and church arsons. unfortunately our 2020 data is not looking good. california, texas, and new jersey are up. the increases vary by location. extremist homicides are down, i think a temporary anomaly with respect to the various covid restrictions, still showed a diversification going on. indeed, the first hard left homicides we saw were last year. 2021, new york city up 135%. l.a., up 53%. in new york city we saw more anti-semitic hate crimes, or just as many, in three weeks in may than the whole first quarter. new york city and l.a. look like they might be heading for records. similarly, anti-asian hate crimes are of digital percentages last year in the first quarter this year. 2020 according to fbi director wrey, investigations are up 63%, 370 along with the fbi. 2019, record hate homicides by the fbi. it would still be a record even without

everywhere in the deep south in the 1960's to the dave kkk, jim crow -- in the area of actual institutional racism. at 18 years old i was a black athlete to receive a scholarship to play football for the embassy of miami. now i probably represent utah in the u.s. congress. i sit before you today as an example of the american dream. this is due to our country's mission statement that all men and women are created equal. this is a statement that every american should have an opportunity -- the life liberty and pursuit of happiness. as someone who actually experienced jim crow laws, i would like to set the record straight. the recent georgia state law and those laws across our country call election subversion, which is absolutely outrageous. these are some examples of what jim crow laws actually look like. at the age of 12, my father allowed me to see a demonstration with college students in private segregated theater. i was the youngest one there. 50 years later dad learned my father that he had parked across the street. in the seventh grade class -- they never received new books. we received

majority african-american countries as bleep-hole nations, describing good people on both sides of the kkk all of his comments in real-time, in public retraumatize those wounds? >> i think the damage is incal incalculable and we will be dealing with the fall-out of that for a long time, in part because it is ongoing. we are still in the grips of covid and donald is continuing to be enabled by a party that feels like they need to keep him relevant in order to cling to power no matter how illegitimately they get it. so, yes, we definitely have been retraumatized, and donald gave people permission to be their worst selves. you know, we have always had problems with racism in this country, but he took it to a different level. he was open about it and worse, he got rewarded for it. >> i have so many questions for you about donald trump as the abuser, about the country as the abused and all of us as the traumatized, but what you write about covid is so profound and so universal. i want to read some from the book. you write, trauma can be compounded when multiple traumatizing events occur in the

in virginia you remember governor ralph northam was in blackface or wearing a kkk rope.any people call for him to resign and then the media moved on, he never resign. one these and -- one reason is because his lieutenant governor had been credibly accused of rape. he is still in office. that is not good but the media did not make him resign. host: how does that apply to governor cuomo? caller: the media wanted to talk about the sexual assault allegations belatedly and they will not talk about the fact the new york governor, the new jersey governor, they have high death rates of elderly people in nursing homes because of their policy decisions. the media will not talk about that because i see a lack of evenhanded treatment. host: aside from that story, but what about this story concerning the governor's resignation? what you think about those events? caller: he should've resigned along time ago and he would've been held to account if you were republican. as an independent it is so obvious. the president was accused of sexual assault by tara reade whose own mother called l

a fascinating choice when you consider that harris compared ice to the kkk and has argued that illegal has yet to hold a press conference or take any questions that began on this role began 138 days ago. i'm old enough to remember vice president pence doing dozens of press conferences when he was head of the coronavirus task force just last year. the president and vice president have their head in the sand strategy at this point, steve. it's running out of runway because now even "the washington post," not exactly a bastion of conservative sentiment, "wall street journal," politico, they all are now saying the same thing you have to engage on their or it will cost you the house and the senate and render you almost completely handcuffed for of your presidency if you don't take care of this. steve: by "the washington post" doing it it's like a head warning light on the dash we are going to loads the house and the senate unless you fix it joe. i have a feeling joe is going to have a meeting today just guessing. >> not me the other joe. maybe. steve: the joe who actually has some power, ok

you know what, that was a temple that was bombed by the kkk. people. for them, here i am. their memory is with us today, black, brown, asian. people of all faiths, no face, demanding it, and let the voices of the people be heard. when god called, he said, here i am. he said, if you hear my call, your light shall burst through and your righteousness shall lead to you. can i get an amen? ♪ >> shalom. but don't take my phone. lit is bringing out some civil rights leaders, and then i want to bring out the brother george floyd, the floyd family, and our attorney general here. not the other one. we are going to close with them, but let me ring out someone who made this happen, people marching and doing things we did earlier today all over the country. the board president, sister jackie -- ♪ [applause] >> good afternoon. i need to hear you. good afternoon. again, i am honored to be here today and stand on this stage, representing march on and service employees international union. i would like to thank march on, seiu, drum major institute, and referen

let's understand where the fighting irish name came from, a newspaper article in the 20s, the kkk invadedthey don't like the pledge of allegiance, they don't like everything in this world, they don't like the rich and the good lord knows let's have the ability to stand up. i used to think that the first amendment said i had the freedom of speech to say what i want and feel but let's not be intimidated any longer it's time to decide a majority stood up. steve: well it's very clear, notre dame has made it, you know , they spoke to a number of reporters yesterday and they said okay, we see that news story about some people feel that, well actually this one outfit, feels that it's offensive, but they're not changing anything. they are sticking with it. >> well it's the right thing to do. the students at notre dame, when i coached for 11 years, i was proud to be part of the fighting irish. they have a great tradition, but why does everybody have to say what you want to do, and there are a lot of things i don't like but i tolerate it. that's part of life and part of the united states, it's part