we have three resurgence as of the kkk. in the 1980's there was a string of bank robberies, there was militia that had a standoff with the government. what is new, there is an increasing shift from rhetoric, this violent rhetoric posed mar-a-lago to action that was driven by an increasing number of americans that believe that it is socially acceptable to engage in violence with the events i don't believe in. more people feel emboldened to engage in violence. that is socially acceptable. you would engage in violence with the new immigration policy. what we need to pay attention to is why do people feel emboldened to engage in violence? why do they think it is ok? we are seeing that much of this rhetoric, especially after mar-a-lago is that high profile, mainstream individuals are amplifying this rhetoric, that is directed from everything to the government, to democrats, to people of color and members of the lgbtq community. these are high profile individuals that have power and are emboldening americans to give legitimacy to

is he a black face dude or the kkk robes guy? nobody knows for sure.alph northam knows which one he is. the democrat party is the party open racists. they are note hiding it. what are the chances. supreme court justice clarence thomas played a hero in overturning roe versus wade. the left's racism was on full blast culling him uncle thomas. and he's worse than the kkk. this is sick. this is deranged sociopathic lunacy. it's not just how they talk, it's how they act, too. they claim black lives matter. but do they really? the democrats are the party of blatant open racism by their actions and their words. their soft on crime policies aren't just destroying black constituencies like l.a. and baltimore. their policies have been spreading like a cancer in cities in middle america for years. these were the cities with the highest murder rates in 2019. they have one thing in common, democrat mayors. the fbi numbers aren't available yet. 40% failed or delayed their reporting. it could mean the current crime rate could be higher than we know. do you think the

antique kkk act of 1871.ll mention because they can't be any positives in the project. other issue there are no positives in the 1619 project. nothing. not one. not one thing. nothing positive about whites and the only slight positive is blacks made money, and then they killed them. blacks did this and then they strung us from trees, right? there's all that imagery, but no one talks about you know, they talk about a couple stories of blacks who has some struggles and their families, but they don't mention booker t, washington or benjamin banneker or any of those people forget about what they say about whites. can you at least give me something good about blacks? and lastly like crt like blm, there are no solutions. nobody says well all this is bad. so this is what we should do. so you have 14 essays from harvard law grass and attorneys whose argent cases at the supreme court. the edit of the new york times magazine all these people writing these wonderful essays and nobody even offered a solution. not one. no

i should know that most of these members were the rank and file the leadership of the kkk the minute that grant started making noise. about potential arrests fled the country or flood the state and they could not be found and arrested. so the kkk trials were really a high-water mark for republicans and for the federal government during reconstruction and in the 19th century in asserting federal supremacy to really protect the rights of the nation's most vulnerable citizens black americans would not receive this kind of protection from the federal government again until the 1960s. in the west ely parker had sort of an interesting vision for native citizenship and representation that he shared with grant and sort of pushed him to embrace and grant was pretty amenable parker was an assimilationist which meant that he argued for the abandonment of indigenous traditions and the embrace of christianity the english language individual land ownership and other markers of american civilization, but he also imagined gathering indigenous peoples into one or two large reservations. that would be

when he gets done as he pushes through the 14th and 15th amendments to the constitution he fights the kkk with federal troops. he tries to keep the country together and win the peace after the war and that really thrilled me to be able to dig in and to tell that story and the climax is as he's leaving the content tested the election of 1876. >> i get the sense from the outset you feel like grant was one of the most underappreciated presidents so his ranking in those historian rankings has one of 13 spots. that's before. so eisenhower went up five spots. we have looked back and why the historians choose to look at it again. i think in this day and age when we are in such a partisan divide and everything that we talk about with race looking back at all that he did to hold the country together are really at a pivotal bull -- pivotal time. >> do you think to this day he's known as one of the most if not the most brilliant of american generals. his reputation just overshadowed his presidency? >> yes in part because he wrote his memoirs about his time in really eloquent terms. at the end of his

when he gets done as he pushes through the 14th and 15th amendments to the constitution he fights the kkk with federal troops. he tries to keep the country together and win the peace after the war and that really thrilled me to be able to dig in and to tell that story and the climax is as he's leaving the content tested the election of 1876. >> i get the sense from the outset you feel like grant was one of the most underappreciated presidents so his ranking in those historian rankings has one of 13 spots. that's before. so eisenhower went up five spots. we have looked back and why the historians choose to look at it again. i think in this day and age when we are in such a partisan divide and everything that we talk about with race looking back at all that he did to hold the country together are really at a pivotal bull -- pivotal time. >> do you think to this day he's known as one of the most if not the most brilliant of american generals. his reputation just overshadowed his presidency? >> yes in part because he wrote his memoirs about his time in really eloquent terms. at the end of his

rights come from and has created say we'll do what we want congress had to pass a statute and for the kkkhat we saw in the beginning to give people a right to go to court and tellte the government to stop doing some places. and the legislatures is that if you understood those implications you could've get rid of these problems of i'm right you're wrong. but toth pick up the book additionally i thought my parents will be thrilled i'm reading it but some peopled might initially ballbu themselves off the idea they may need to because they don't work in politics or in the law firm but it was struck by the fact that you say no, packing up with this mindset but the bigger life questions of what happens if i am getting divorced? when you make that turn to the personal it is so much more accessible but to say that i will not be sitting in your office of the first problem. if that is to wikipedia the h answer nobody will pay you $500 an hour. because it is ambiguous and confusing you have lessenedy' the tools? in my copd is fighting for my clients. what you don't steer the weeks and the —- modes.

he fights the kkk with federal troops. he tries to keep the country together and win the peace after the war. and that really thrilled me to be able to dig in and be able to tell that story. and the climax is, as he's leaving -- >> i get the sense, -- you feel like grant was one of the most underappreciated presidents. so his ranking in those historian rankings has gone up 13 spots in recent years. >> that's before my book. so eisenhower went up five spots. we have looked back at why the historians choose to look at it again. i think in this day and age, when we are in such a partisan divide. and everything we've talked about with race, looking back at all that he did to hold the country together at a really pivotal time, gives him another look. >> and do you think he, to this day is known as one of the most, if not most brilliant american journalist. his reputation as a general, does it just overshadow his presidency? >> yes, in part because he wrote his memoirs at his time -- in really eloquent terms, at the end of his l

we have seen a resurgence of the kkk. we had the order in the 1980's carry out a string of bank robberies and assassination against a jewish talk host. we have seen militia groups engage in standoffs with the government. it is not new. what is new is we are seeing an increasing shift from rhetoric, this violent rhetoric we have seen post donald trump's weren't in an mar-a-lago, to action. that is largely driven by an increasing number of americans who believe it is socially acceptable to engage in violence in response to police, social policies, and events they do not believe in. that is a very concerning trend we are seeing because if you look at recent polls, if you are going online, where people are feeling emboldened to engage in violence. that is socially acceptable which most of us think that it is wrong to engage in palm -- violence when hearing about a new immigration policy. but we really need to pay attention to is why did you feel emboldened to engage in violence? why do people feel that is something that is ok

but at the same time this politics and prejudice in his dilife and in the book i show the rise of the kkke 1920s it is the great plains and iowa was one of the states included. it wasn't anti- catholic anti- somatic. so he was surrounded by that. and then returning to russia in 1932 because he believed communism iss the onlyism that word and world oppression. i assume they did not believe caanymore that capitalism was the key. is just likee i said in my talk which i thought was brilliant that i pointed out that george's life represented a tug-of-war between thewe american dream and america's paradise. and then as to why he was recruited in 19395 red army intelligence. and whether or not if he knew what stalin was doing. if i could interview george. that would have been one of outhe questions i would have asked him if he still believed in those ideals when he went into the red army military training to be a spy and then return to the nation. >> i am wondering as well. so help us to understand child did george do this and what is a the psychological reasoning? how did hens make sense someon

every black person needs to know that they are dealing with the kkk. they have the grand wizard in the white house for four years. he wants to take us back to the plantation. -- go to hell. host: we will leave it there. as far as the ads you are putting out, engagement, going door-to-door. you said you made your investment in digital. do you go as far as person-to-person when you are talking to people about november? guest: our investment is all digital but we do work with partner organizations across those states that we have outlined in our plan across the country. and they are on the ground leading a number of programs and so we have a huge network of partners across the country that help us in this work in different ways. as far as priorities of the organization, we are focused on digital. host: do you think biden should do a better job in the democratic party of touting its efforts? guest: we are all working towards that. we know that this has been a difficult time where you have the dichotomy between trying to get your message out and the fact th

example wouldld be this people hear the term white supremacy in the first thing they think about is the kkk and crosses burning in people's shards but not in terms of societal structure. it's easy tost send not those people obviously racist in that sense anden really not even you as a person is very much about the societal structures to keep certain people in power and that we use different language and it creates a barrier where you can't get past that labeling. that civil rights era labeling to what we are trying to do. >> what is clear is there is no language that the structure will tolerate the nonviolent movement in the civil rights movement it is the way that it was intolerable as a means of protest. in the way to say that slavery is foundational in the way it has affected our nation and our laws and our religion and our politics. to say i that never happens there is nothingru that is acceptable to the power structure because it is all seen as an attack and a threat to be dealt with that way. talking about white rage how you rollback civil rights and one of the key ways is to redefine

the kkk, after the school was up and running, came marching on the small girls school with torches, with, on horseback. she already had a plan. she told her teachers to disperse and she hid her students and stood alone at the gate and stared them down and stood them down. madam speaker, in my military career i have seen some tough cookies, some tough women. i guarantee this is the toughest one in the hall today. if that was not enough, she became a member of president roosevelt's cabinet. she developed a lifelong friendship with eleanor roosevelt who came to stay at -- in daytona beach and became a lifelong national leader. from one generation, a daughter of slaves, to a national leader of women and civil rights. but i think that her greatest contribution was her last will and testament. if you have not read it, you must. i read it again last night. briefly she says, i leave you love. i leave you hope. i leave you a thirst for education. i love you -- review faith. -- leave you faith. she said our aim must be to leave a world of justice were no man's skin color or religion is held agains

confederates then signing the emancipation proclamation and then going into reconstruction backlash kkksupreme court, that there was no rights blacks had they would suspect plessy versus ferguson. black clash all through the 20th century and backlash and then with the silver one —- civil rights era sit ins and mlk. backlash. and then the voting rights act don't forget 55 voting rights act and 58 housing but when all we talk about so now back to your question we get a black president, barack obama 2008 reelected in 2012. backlash. donald trump. i knew there would be a backlash after obama. that there is but you don't know because you never let your guard down. >> talk about the filibuster. king talked about doing the arraignment y and so what do you think about the filibuster. >> that's the basic and fundamental in the democracy as the right to vote and we watched it several times with 50000 people and then if we change it and then the democrats of these are not. they want to do it stalled a presidential nomination over supreme court justice for over one year and you know they were going

that he had getting in and out of cars and wheelchairs and so forth election night smith loses big the kkk anti-catholic bigotry he loses fdr goes to bed thinks. he's not going to win either. but he had a charming way. he was from upstate. he campaigned upstate. he was a person, you know who from this community who understood agriculture. he had been chair of the conservation committee when he was in the state senate. he goes to betty wakes up. he's he wins by 25,000 votes because he cut the margin in upstate new york that smith lost by we were the largest state in the country by the way with 47 electoral votes in 1928. so anyway fdr is going to become governor on january 1st 1929 before he gets to albany. yes, the state superintendent of buildings and grounds if they could put a get rid of the greenhouses in the back of the governor's mansion in albany and put a swimming pool in. and they did that because that way he could continue his therapy. he had not wanted to run because he thought if he spent a few more years going to warm springs that he would improve much more now. he did keep go

the republican party was the party of jim crow, democrats not the democratic party, founded the kkk. of the politicians who stood in front of school doors were all democrats, born, raised, died democrat. it is a lie that all of the sudden 60's date switched sides. if you look at all of the people who voted against the civil rights, all of the democrats, only two turned republicans. the republican party is a party of individual responsibility, hard work, family, god, and i am urging fellow blacks to look at the history of the republican party and the history of the democratic party and not what democrats have done with welfare to essentially attack the black family and replace government with god and family. a different kind of slavery is being pushed by democrats versus the actual slavery they used to push. host: bruce is in california, democrats line. caller: mr. elder, why did the republicans cheat hillary -- treat hillary clinton so bad during benghazi? what was the deal with biden's son? what was with donald trump, 22 people in his cabinet under some kind of conviction. what is a

i was asked to join the ira and the kkk.should know of course that they are all democrats. almost the into death because my partner was a black guy on the harley chopper. almost beat to death. my grandfather rented the first black family in compton his big house. he was an irish cop. people don't understand the history of california and what happened with democrats and republicans and of course i was in the business of firearms. i sold guns. the whole idea that the first laws were against wax. as mr. elder knows, everyone is equal under god so everyone should be under the second amendment equal. >> that is something you write about. the gun laws. >> the worst supreme court decision ever -- chief justiceal talked about if we ruled that black people are anything other, they could get guns. lord knows what they would do as revenge on their former slaveowners. being the economist is not uncommon. even after the university of chicago and stun -- studied under these guys. the impact of the minimum wage. he came back and said it de

give us a call, we can help you, the white knights of the kkk, and then there's a phone number. >> i'm with us for a second, you know? we're totally being out organized by the other side in relationship to those folk, so i think it's pretty dope that you all have kind of taken on this challenge. >> i'm glad you came because this is the easiest interview i've ever had. i'm just, yes, what she said, yes. does anybody need their drinks refilled? [ laughter ] sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. there's no question it's something that i would recommend. can a cream really reduce wrinkles? more than one hundred women tried l'oreal triple power. the wrinkles look so much softer now. triple power visibly reduces wrinkles, firms and brightens. i'm amazed i saw results in 1 week. revitalift triple power from l'oreal paris. it does what it says. a monster was attacking but the team remained calm. because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under thei

>> we have always had some fbi enforcement of the extreme right , the kkk and some of the other extreme right wing groups over the last 20 years. but it has always been anemic and short-lived, and basicall in the service of very kind of conservative centrism that wants to sort of wipe out any kind of populism. e kind of "new york times" level role anti-populism that prefers a kind of technocratic neoliberal approach to problems. what we're seeing here is some exing ofentristusclto trto shudown t most treme pas of theight wing. in a way, thgh, i thi is going backfir and that does nothing to actually address the widespread popularity of these extremist views. when marjorie taylor greensays we shoul defund thfbi, she immediely getsundreds thousas of les on he twittefeed. these are wt we thoht wereringe ids have become way too mainstream and the idea we're going to x this pblem with se indiments of uliani a trump i thi is very shortsighd. amy:hat are youalling for >> think wneed to use this etorical opening to raise up existing efforts to try to actually rein in the power of the fbi. you ha

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i was asked to join the ira and kkk, everybody should know of course they're all democrats.o death because my partner was black on a chopper. >> and my grandfather rented the first black family in compton his house, he was an irish cop. people don't understand the history of california and what happened with democrats and the republicans and ever course, i was in the business of firearms and historical artifacts, i sold guns, antique and modern, the whole idea the first gun laws were against blacks and as mr. elder knows, that everybody is equal under god, so everybody should be under the second amendment equal. but then-- >> and that's something you write about, the gun laws you write about in the 10 things you can't say in america. >> the famous, probably the worst supreme court decision ever was dread scott. and the chief justice ruled if black people are anything other than chatle, then they could get guns and lord knows what they would do to exact revenge on the former slave owners. his evolution from being a communist is not uncommon. thomas was a markist even after he

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medical bills of people injured that summer in an amount equal to a 1921 pledge to the university by the kkks and applause] many demands remain unfulfilled, but last year, the city fulfilled one commitment -- removing a statue of robert ely. diane showed us the walk from the park to the synagogue, a reminder of what she saw august 12. >> it is a very different feeling here today right now compared to what it was. it just feels so peaceful now. >> an empty plot remains warily 's a once stood and the sitter -- remains where lee's statue once stood and the city contemplates what's next. ♪ judy: this past weekend, european, iranian, and american negotiators flew to vienna to see if they could once and for all come to an agreement over iran's nuclear program. the biden administration has been negotiating to reenter a deal from which the trump administration withdrew. we get updates on the talks and information from the chief u.s. negotiator. >> the biden administration has argued the best way to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon is through diplomacy instead of from the trump administra

on that map just to highlight a couple of them, in 1868 a kkk-style group massacred hundreds in responsedge administration. st. bernard's parish, white vigilantes murdered dozens trying to eman pate voters. whites contesting the 1872 election set fire to a courthouse protected by black militiamen. you can just go on and on and on and the other thing about history that i think is fascinating we should always remember is history is the story of change. the same party that ran the american south during the worst periods in our history after reconstruction is the same party that 100 years later, a century later, is the party of the first black president, so these parties change. >> they do. >> and i think for republicans the message is that the trumpist version of their party is not the final version, does not have to be the time version of their party because for democrats the racist southern version was not the final version either. >> absolutely. >> the democrats were such a while supreme courtsy racist party even franklin roosevelt who had some of the largest congressional majorities as

america's civil war, anti-government violence has shifted from white terror organizations like the kkkst groups like the 3%ers whose founder told me in an interview that all politics in this country is just dress rehearsal for a civil war. let's be clear, aggressive defensiveness is a threat by people who feel threatened. it is also a coercive political tactic. in the run-up to the civil war, abraham lincoln compared it to a robber who holds a pistol to my ear, and mutters through his teeth, stand and deliver or i shall kill you and then you womwill be a murderer. this is illogical and absurd, but not a joke. even as we calmly pursue accountability, consistent with the rule of law, we need to ratchet down the rhetoric right now, before it is too late. especially from republican leaders who still want to represent the legacy of lincoln. and that's your reality check. >> john avlon, thank you for that. >>> a piece of debris from an airliner falling out of the sky, barely missing our next guest. he's going to join us live. i'm a performing artist. so a healthy diet is one of the most impo

rutherford b hayes, the one term president and never mentioned grants, the one who won the war, anti-kkk of 1871. don't mention that. there can't be any positives in the project. there are no positives, nothing, not one. nothing positive about whites te and the only white positive is blacks make money, then they killed them. blacks did this and they hung them from trees but you know, they talk about a couple of stories hoof blacks who had struggles and they don't mention bookert. washington or any of those people . forget about what they did about whites, can you give me something good about blacks ? lastly like crt, my blm are no solutions, this is bad so what should we do? you have 14 essays and attorneys who argued cases at the supreme court. the editor of the new york times magazine, all these people write these wonderful essays and nobody even offered a solution, not one western mark nobody talks about how many blacks are in elected office and what they could do to help this supposed racist system? nothing? and we think we should be teaching this to kids? this is the problem with th

it's because of the kkk, and he let the kkk come out into the world.ck people are getting killed. the police department -- they could kill people and nothing would be done about it. host: aside from those accusations, what do you have for our guest? caller: trump, again, when everyone wants to put in their mail-in voting, he went to the post office and had the post office man move the mailboxes so you couldn't mail any of your mail-in ballots. those are the things that he's doing that's preventing democrats to do what they need to do in order to get our votes out. host: ok, thank you. guest: what's funny about that, when you look at mail-in voting, that was a very reliably republican -- demographic until recently. it's interesting to see that has become a very, very blue issue, if not talking went or something to fight on. host: one more call. we will hear from barbara and washington, d.c.. go ahead. caller: ok, comment and question. donald trump is the person that was elected and tried to dismantle the policies that obama had put in place to fight pan

checked that out and given that i'm from virginia where i didn't find, you know, the, remember the uh kkk and blackface picture until after the election to anybody out there. you know, if you're not doing your basic bread and butter stuff right now, shame on you because candidates that have come up in the trump world are totally unvetted. they're not just extreme and bad candidates. they are vetted personally and that is not good. >> i don't know if you had something to add, is this another place that you're in in consensus with with barbara here? >> yeah, and i want to let you i think there's two things, i in here too. mean, i think arizona is actually the state that i am going to pay in somewhat the most attention to in this cycle. you have the competitive senate race. i mean, mark kelly, there's so much money going in there to protect that seat. on the democratic side, you've got open seats on the house side, you've got the governor's race and the secretary of state and you have eggs exactly what bill said, which is election deniers. and you also have a native population, the navajo na