host: tell us about your first meeting with the kkk. how did that happen? guest: i was playing at a bar in a town called frederick, maryland. the bar was known as an all-white bar, not that there were any signs, but black people knew they were not welcome there. when you go somewhere where you all are not -- where you are not welcome and alcohol is being sold, bad things can happen. i was the only black guy in the band. a guy put his arm around my shoulder and told me it was the first time he heard a black man play the piano like jerry lewis. i told him that jerry lee lewis learned from black piano players. he wanted to buy me a drink. i don't drink alcohol. he bought me a cranberry juice. he clinked his glass -- my glass and said " this is the first time i have sat down and had a drink with a black man." i was truly baffled. i asked him why. at first he didn't answer me. his buddy elbowed him and said " tell him!" he said " i am a member of the ku klux klan." i burst out laughing at him! i know a lot about the klan. it doesn't work that way. i thought this

okay. rotestorshouting [protestors] no racism, no kkk, no fascist usa.o fcist u. - are you all byhe sns, the prostors? okay, ay, i'll find u. [cwd cheerg] ramatimusic] [tmp] all ght, wh a turn t. [cro cheerin soi made apeech ani talk about illegal migratio [cwd cheerg] rotestor dump trp, du trumpdump tmp! mp trumpdump tru, du trump, mp trump [trump] t 'em ou get m outthere! rowd cheing] t! . [crowd ce] [crowd] a, usa, usa, u, usa, ! us usa, usa, u, usa, u! - i golost cpletely,ude. i s ** ** scare i'm t gonna e. i s one brn doin like sea [cwd] tearown the ll, ar dowthe wall te down thwall, tear dowthe walla tear dn the wa, tearown the ll! ar down e wall tearown the ll! pee, equaly, jusce! peace, eality, jtice! peace,qualit justice pee, equity, jtice! peac equaly, justi! peace, eality,ustice peac equaly, justi! ace, eality, jtice! ews anch] somethg haened lasnight th will forer shake the replican and demoatic par. [ns anchora histor astoding shoing momes when we heard the reporter here-- [news anchor] what a night. [news anchor] and a complete earthquake.

. >> graham thought the , local, local kkk chapter.nd they're calling people like me part of the kkk folks. i am second in command in the former capital , the confederate. d the kkk is rolling over in their grave. thane k k you very much. hav you know, we've got to makeoice a different choice this year.ye. this election very this election, very important. vote for your children.. vote for your children. pa ourents, don'tre let them try to destroy our families.r . reflation is upon us . recession is upocen us . yo and you see what's happening in the world. world. year.can this lieutenant governor , you'vehavc been doing a great job. great to have yoon theu back o n the program. thank you fo br beinack,g with . when we come back , formerime mi niisraeli prime minister benjam netanyahu has published a new memoir and he's up for reelection. and the odds are he will win.cet and the odds are he will win.cet and then later , a hannityy announcement you don't want tow. announcement you don't want tow. miss straight. >> there's nothing like hit

host: tell us about your first meeting with the kkk. how did that happen?: i was playing at a bar in a town called frederick, maryland. the bar was known as an all-white bar, not that there were any signs, but black people knew they were not welcome there. when you go somewhere where you all are not -- where you are not welcome and alcohol is being sold, bad things can happen. i was the only black guy in the band. a guy put his arm around my shoulder and told me it was the first time he heard a black man play the piano like jerry lewis. i told him that jerry lee lewis learned from black piano players. he wanted to buy me a drink. i don't drink alcohol. he bought me a cranberry juice. he clinked his glass -- my glass and said " this is the first time i have sat down and had a drink with a black man." i was truly baffled. i asked him why. at first he didn't answer me. his buddy elbowed him and said " tell him!" he said " i am a member of the ku klux klan." i burst out laughing at him! i know a lot about the klan. it doesn't work that way. i thought this guy w

he fights the kkk with federal troops. he keeps the country together with peace after the war. and to be able to dig in and tell that story, it's the contested election of 1876. >> i get the sense that you feel like grant was one of the most underappreciated presidents. >> -- his ranking in those historian rankings has gone up 13 spots in recent years. that's before my book. >> [laughs] >> eisenhower went up five spots. i think in this day in age, when we are in such a partisan divide, and everything that we talk about with race -- looking back at all that he did to hold the country together, and a really pivotal time -- it gives him another look. >> -- >> one of the most brilliant generals. -- overshadowed as president. >> yes, in part because he wrote his memoirs about his time in eloquent terms. at the end of his life, he leads the presidency, and we are kind of going chronologically, there's a different spot. but after he leaves the presidency, he trusted a lot of people. and they burned him, a lot of times. that's where some of it comes from. and -- invest more and loses e

he fights the kkk with federal troops. he keeps the country together with peace after the war. and to be able to dig in and tell that story, it's the contested election of 1876. >> i get the sense that you feel like grant was one of the most underappreciated presidents. >> -- his ranking in those historian rankings has gone up 13 spots in recent years. that's before my book. >> [laughs] >> eisenhower went up five spots. i think in this day in age, when we are in such a partisan divide, and everything that we talk about with race -- looking back at all that he did to hold the country together, and a really pivotal time -- it gives him another look. >> -- >> one of the most brilliant generals. -- overshadowed as president. >> yes, in part because he wrote his memoirs about his time in eloquent terms. at the end of his life, he leads the presidency, and we are kind of going chronologically, there's a different spot. but after he leaves the presidency, he trusted a lot of people. and they burned him, a lot of times. that's where some of it comes from. and -- invest more and loses e

when he gets done as he pushes through the 14th and 15th amendments to the constitution he fights the kkk with federal troops. he tries to keep the country together and win the peace after the war and that really thrilled me to be able to dig in and to tell that story and the climax is as he's leaving the content tested the election of 1876. >> i get the sense from the outset you feel like grant was one of the most underappreciated presidents so his ranking in those historian rankings has one of 13 spots. that's before. so eisenhower went up five spots. we have looked back and why the historians choose to look at it again. i think in this day and age when we are in such a partisan divide and everything that we talk about with race looking back at all that he did to hold the country together are really at a pivotal bull -- pivotal time. >> do you think to this day he's known as one of the most if not the most brilliant of american generals. his reputation just overshadowed his presidency? >> yes in part because he wrote his memoirs about his time in really eloquent terms. at the end of his

he fights the kkk with federal troops. he tries to keep the country together and win the peace after the war. and that really thrilled me to be able to dig in and tell that story. the climax is as he is leaving the contested election of 1876. >> yeah. i get the sense from the outside that you really feel like grant was one of the most underappreciated presidents. >> his ranking in those historian rankings has gone up 13 spots in recent years. that is before my book. so eisenhower went up five spots, we have looked back on why the historians choose to look at it again. i think in this day and age when we are in such a partisan divide, and everything that we talked about with race, looking back at all that he did to hold the country together at a really pivotal, pivotal time gives him another look. >> i wonder, do you think that to this day is known as one of the most, if not the most brilliant of american generals, his reputation as a general just overshadowed his presidency? >> yes. in part because he wrote his memoirs abo

is he the black face dude or the guy in the kkk outfit. ralph knows which one he is, but i don't.ut let's just be clear. either one is a really bad idea. coming in as number 1. drum roll, please. here is the former first lady with a comment you may have forgotten all about. take a listen. >> what do you think of cory booker saying kick him in the shins. >> eric holder. >> i know they all look alike. >> no, they don't. dan: i can only imagine. can you imagine if donald trump would have said something like that? i said this before. democrats are the real party of open blatant racism. we did a whole monologue on them. remember in the mid-terms who the left really is. they tell us over and over again. you just have got to listen. it's time for hot takes. three outrageous stories you may have missed but you need to know about. joining me, "fox and friends" host pete hegseth. the american rescue plan that rescues no one has found someone to rescue. fund may have been used to rescue drag queen store question hour for kids. you wrote an entire book on the fail of our education system. >>

president of confederacy jefferson davis was a democrat, generals were democrats, the kkk was spawned of confederacy and embraced by democrat party, to oppose reconciliation and that is what they did. took a republican president, grant to send u.s. army to 29 wipe c them out. the klan prospered. segregation. plessy versus ferguson. supreme court gone rogue, again. democrat party. pushing segregations for another hundred years after the civil war, supreme court stepped in with brown vs boboard of education. another decision to do what? stop the democrats. from being racist. and discriminatory against blacks. the 1964 civil right act, and 19 65, they were passed to stop a large number of democrats from stopping blacks from voting. or stopping the implementation of the civil war amendments, we have wilson, one of earliest leading so-called progressives, american marxist, he was a racist. he -- recession gated civil service. >> we had everything possible to put down blacks. he embraced ugenics, s they want to wipe out what they call idiots and morans but they were targets black people. le

planned parenthood was made by margaret sanger with the kkk and i believe that if we saw ourselves asw ourselves as a people and not a race, then we would treat our people better. if you go to a jewish person and say a race it almost gets confusing, they will cut you off quickly and say we are not a race, we are people. our people are just supposed to say say it loud i'm black and i'm proud -- what about, do you own the land you're living in? do you own -- is the contract in a language that's possibly understandable for your her heritage? in america we will down each other on how good we speak but we are speaking english. there's nothing whiter than english, we are not in our native tongue actually. we judge each other on white goal lines, not based on exactly what our culture is based on. >> tucker: you can agree or disagree but it's pretty clear what you just heard is not the approved script. famous people must read from the approved script or else the whole system falls apart because then people might be encouraged to think for themselves and once you do that it's a chain reaction.

the kkk k is rolling over in their grave. we have to make a different choice this year. very important. vote for your children. parents don't let them destroy our families. inflation is upon us. recession is upon us. you see what is happening in the world. vote republican this year. >> sean: great to you have back on the program. when we come back, former israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu published a memoir and up for reelection and odds are he will win. later a "hannity" announcement you don't want to miss. straight ahead. there's nothing like volunteering. but my moderate-to-severe eczema can make it hard. now i'm staying ahead of it. dupixent helps heal your skin from within. so you can have clearer skin and noticeably less itch. serious allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems such as eye pain or vision changes including blurred vision, joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. don't change or stop asthma medicines without talking to your doctor. ask your doctor about dupixent. >> ♪ ♪ >> sean:

." >> american -- >> kkk, right?ink about when you're having a dessert, and get it was a commentary on what people oftentimes ignore about america. >> yeah. food is a vehicle for us, it's an artistic expression for us to express our feelings and our thoughts and we do it on a plate, and sometimes it might make people uncomfortable but that's what art is, we are supposed to spark conversation and make you think deeper into all of the things that are happening. it's not just eating, it's food for the mind as well. >> trevor: we've also not been afraid to challenge some of the ideas. you know, people of soul food. people have ideas of how black people each. we talked about this many years ago, but a lot of how black people eat has been defined by necessity as opposed to choice. and what you've done is you've, you've said we are not scrapping these ideas, we are not getting rid of what black people have created in the culture, but what we want to do is improve on it, we want to great worlds where the food doesn't define

former kanye w west, ye, he talked about the racist roots of planned parenthood and he talked about the kkknvolvement. what i found interesting were all the things he had to say about marriage and family. i want to talk to you about it because i know those are issues that are important to you. >> the media ridiculed me for getting the house next door to kim to see my children. and, they said i was stalking her and her new boyfriend because i bought the house next door to see my children. >> what do you think about his overall message about marriage and kids and being a father and being a black father? >> it is so important these days, kanye, delivers that message that creates a stir. after the dust settles, you realize the spirit that he's coming from and the biblical context which he's standing on and i think it is beautiful for a black man to be in a situation like that when we have so many fatherless kids throughout our community to stand up for his children, front and center and be unbash full about that and making the investment of time and money and resources to move next door to his

diploid by the federal government by sheriffs and police chiefs, but also by conspirators like the kkknd others but these laws were not really push into force until the 19 40's -- 1940's. not until 1930 find -- 1939 the justice department creates a -- intended to end racial violence. they were tied to local communities or investigations. the lawyers in washington had to look to lawyers and it these seven jurisdictions to investigate these cases, not just to lawyers but also to the local fbi. they were embedded in their communities, and hostile to prosecution of these cases. that is one factor, inadequate laws, difficulty working through the southern jurisdictional legal system -- federal legal systems the self, and the other is jurors. we are talking about all white, mostly male jurors during this time. they were repeatedly with rare exceptions would watch these cases even when the killings were just so obviously evidenced , hitting you in the face and the jurors would return and slap down the prosecutors time and time again. no prosecutor wants to enter a courtroom with the case that

caller: number one, the kkk was the democratic party so i do not know why any flag person -- why any black person would vote for the democratic party. number two, every inner-city is a failure because you have democrats who are communist that sit in inner cities and only keep doing poverty as a con job. i do not know why black people fall for the con job which is the democratic party. number three, we need to have two separate countries. because the republicans believe in god and democrats believe in abortion and the devil. the republican party believes in free speech. the democratic party believes in censoring and shutting people up. the republican party -- -- host: got it. guest: i did not really sure a question in that. host: you know, there is a point he makes which is the very violent cities and the very cities that are impoverished are all run by democrats. guest: i think that is the nature of cities. i think that we have the states that have high crime rates and those include republican states. then violence is an american and dimmick issue that is not specific to party or rac

about changing the names of street signs and honored confederate generals and one time leader of the kkks him holding a confederate flag. he got into a shouting match with the crowd. police arrested him and chaged him with disorderly conduct. >> that is the person, the victim of an attack. a few days earlier he was in charlottesville, virginia. here he is at that rally. pledging to die for the south and repeating the rally's mantra, they will not replace us. mr. monzone has his own page which tracks hate groups including the white supremacist group league of the south of which he was a member. the things he posted on 2017 about jewish people are so vile i'm not going to share them with you. and all of that as far as we know has nothing to do with the violent attack that mr. monzone suffered this week, an attack roundly condemned as it should be. but the publicity that marco rubio brought to this guy who rubio says was canvassing for campaign led to the revelation that christopher was on the payroll of the florida republican party through at least last month. the florida gop paid christop

. >> any of those things, they viola killed by a kkk member who was an fbi informant they slandered her after she died, it was to cover-up the fact that one of their informants who was in the klan had someone murdered and they did nothing about it this will end when people come together and demand as one voice u.s. government, federal government not have a federal law enforce am agency, we don't need it, it mmade it worse. kennedy: spike thank you so much. >> thank you. kennedy: there we go, game night, party panel is ready for battle. place your bets over r -under, on tap, next. 00 years, lincoln's been exploring new ways to deliver sanctuary in its vehicles. comfort for body and mind. that's ambitious. but the future of sanctuary, well that's downright audacious. ♪ psst! psst! with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary. flonase sensimist provides non-drowsy, 24-hour relief. in a scent free, gentle mist. psst! psst! flonase. all good. living with metastatic breast cancer means being relentless. because every day matters. and having more of them is possible with verzenio. the only o

rks sat on -- i think of how she sat with her grandfather in the early 1900s, facing the kkk and himouse and where we are today and that she never stopped fighting for that justice and knew we were not there even at the end of her life. i was the, we are still not now but gives me some inspiration and hope that you have to keep on keeping on. i think mrs. parks knew that. amy: yoruba richen, codirector with jeanne theoharis of the new peacock documentary of "the rebellious life of mrs. rosa parks." that premieres wednesday. she is the director of the documentary program at the graduate school of journalism at cuny. the film is based on the book written by jeanne theoharis. democracy now! is currently accepting applications for a video news production fellowship and a people and culture manager. learn more and apply at democracynow.org. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!

. >> jim crow kkk-like caucus. >> their strategy right now is to pass racist voting laws, a new jim crowthe south. >> harris: as it turns out the election laws are actually weaker than those or not as strict as those in the president's home state of delaware. i digress. georgia election officials report record early voting on monday of this week. so no suppression there. more than 131,000 people cast ballots on monday up from roughly 71,000 in 2018. they said it was presidential election-like. didn't feel like a mid-term. that's an 85% increase, jason. >> yeah, the numbers don't wear it out. look, governor kemp i think took the right policy. he expanded the number of voting boxes that were out there. put some policies in place that were good in terms of verification, helped clean up the voter rolls. did it in a responsible way. look, what stacey abrams tried to do is to scare people. they scared away the major league baseball all-star game and did some other things and i have to tell you, i think the republicans herschel walker and governor kemp will do quite well in that race because ag

relationship between the oath keepers, if any, and other right-wing extremist groups, skinheads or the kkkas, 3 percenters. yep documented thousands over the past few years by these groups in the united states. >> the overl piercing much more in the last few years -- e overlap, we are seeing much more in the last for years. we can talk about january 6. i think because of all of those groups, we have seen the benefits of keeping trump in power, [indiscernible] we have to be honest, there is a spillover of a lot of the rhetoric of the white supremacy groups into what -- antigovernment groups such as the boogaloo movement, the oath keepers. we definitely see very strong sometimes racist, definitely this kind of language penetrate and become more and more present in the language of those antigovernment groups. that initially were very careful not to be perceived as part of the white supremacist movement. but eventually, especially the last for years, we do see this overlap. there is overlap [indiscernible] amy: i want to ask about oath keeper thomas caldwell come also on trial in a retired u.s

to grooves -- this is the real old kkk, the deep texas grooming young neo--- grooming gen z neo--- intoim kavanaugh customer goldsmith, in fact we will have you guys will together so we can make a deeper dive into what's going on, because the two of you. are an incredible combination. thank you for being here this, morning i really appreciate. it coming up, obama to the rescue? the former president back on the campaign trail, trying to fire voters. can he provide a mid term miracle for democrats? racle for democrats? this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. call your doctor about sudden behavior changes or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. repor

and a onetime leader of the kkk. he's holding a confederate flag.nto a shouting match with the crowd. we led to this, police arrested him and charged him with aggravated assault, inciting a riot, and disorderly conduct. >> that is christopher man zone, the victim of this week's attack, charging in a crowd with a confederate flag in 2017. a few days earlier, he had been at the infamous white supremacist unite the rally in charlottesville, virginia. here he is at that rally, pledging to die for the south, and repeating the rallies mantra, they will not replace us. he has his own page on the website of the southern poverty law center, which tracks hate groups, including the white supremacist group, lead of the south of which he was a member. the things that he posted on social media in 2017 about african americans and jewish people are so vile that i'm not going to share them with you. all of, this as far as we, know has nothing to do with the violent attack that he suffered this weekend, an attack that has been condemned, as it should be. the publicit

. >> you let us as intimidation from the kkk during the court battle drove annoyed as family out of town and to california. can you imagine as far as the ku klux? >> and i-35 year-old woman is going to get take they can. lafayette, rose was killed in a crash just weeks before she was set to testify in court or let it says there was speculation at the time that the crash wasn't an accident. and rose was targeted by white-supremacist rosa bell, who was only 13 at the time was forced to stand in for her mom bike in boulder county to testify in the civil rights case and that bravery recognized and celebrated more break probably means the pool was closed during the court battle. never reopen 2 decades later, the city of bilby book i burger rec center in its place. >> 2019 local leaders made the swimming center. the rose and what a pool. it's a story that % only moved mister vargas shed light on the part of these old family's history. he almost never learned. we have no back story. we did not know what happened close to it as is his great, great grandmother. will also help rose's story sad to

. >> a jim crow kkk-like caucus. >> their strategy now is to past racist voting laws, a new jim crowme of the liberal media are talking about the long lines of voters and diversity of those lines. record early voting in georgia. if it's jim crow.2 how is this happening? our power panel in "focus" next. this is gloria. she hasn't worked this hard to only get this far with her cholesterol. taken with a statin, leqvio can lower bad cholesterol by over 50% and keep it low with two doses a year. side effects were injection site reaction, joint pain, urinary tract infection, diarrhea, chest cold, pain in legs or arms, and shortness of breath. with leqvio, lowering cholesterol becomes just one more thing life throws your way. ask your doctor about leqvio. lower. longer. leqvio. i was always the competitive one in our family... 'til my sister signed up for united healthcare medicare advantage. ♪wow, uh-huh♪ now she's got a whole team to help her get the most out of her plan. ♪wow, uh-huh♪ with coverage that's better than ever for dental... ...vision... ...prescription drugs and more. advanta

. >> so you think white supremacist from kkk forward have been attracted to the confederacy not because do, it it's a black and white issue. >> what, the kkk? >> so i time in history bites previously and slavery is being whitewashed in issues across america, that communities like the neutral ground are more important than ever. this focuses on the fight for the removal of four confederate monuments in new orleans, and investigates how the myths of the confederacy continue to influence white supremacist movements to this day. very timely discussion goods are that indigenous peoples day, once formally known as columbus, day is coming up on monday. and the executive producer the neutral, ground c.j. hunt a director of the film, which nominated for an emmy for outstanding historical documentary. so i had to say roy, i have been begging you to come on the show since 1985, so i'm very happy that you're making time for me today. what made you get evolve this, octogenarian i don't know, right everybody the show has been saying, roy would zhu, this roy would she knew that when we talk about the

the plaintiffs in that lawsuit site the kkk act, which is past precisely because of voter intimidation. the judge in that ruling, who knocks it down says it is fine, there is no example that they are targeting minority voters here, which is true, but it is also like i don't know if equal opportunity has specified -- which seems to be some of the ruling here. but it is also like, you just feel like there is a level that we walked off some platform of liberal democracy, free and open debate into this kind of menace. i guess the question is how do you think about getting back onto the platform. how do you rent that back in a society that has taken some real steps towards one or the other. >> what are the big political tectonic plates here? there is the central rhetoric on the right between the big lie and election denialism, replacement theory, which the anxiety that america sometime later on this century will be a society where the biggest racial block, are not a majority in the country. and they are playing on that fear. so all of the electoral paranoia is really about the fact that the

sort of fledgling of freedoms of the of the newfound freedmen and women, as well as suppressing the kkk. i think one of those acts, one of the enforcement acts of the 1871, is called the ku klan act for that very reason. right. so there are this is not a completely a completely unprecedented narrative shift, but even in the context of what calling, you know, the january 16th correction. i mentioned sort of at the coda of my book because all of this was happening while i was trying to finish and it was just very interesting that like all the themes i was talking about were coming out, you know, in the current as i was finishing. but nonetheless, you know, that what you could well interpret the action to interfere the certification of the election as a way to suppress you know black vote right because a lot those mail in ballots were at least interpreted or associated with black voters. so i don't know. i mean, it's in a way it's it's a lose it's a lose association. it's nonetheless a pattern that seems to be reasserting itself over and over. and i think for me, anyway, this was a very us

planned parenthood was made by margaret sanger, a known sanh i genics with the kkk. and i believe that if we saw ourselves as more as we saw ourselves as a w people and notw a race, then we would treat our peoplepe better. a like if you go to a jewish person and you say a race, it'st it almost is confusing. off qu cut you off quickly and say are we're not a race not where peopp welleo, are people supposed to sast say, say it loud, i'm black and i'm prouy d? t, d okay, well, what about do you do ythe land that you're living in?ou do you own is the contract even a language that's even possibly understandable, right.tandable r for your heritage? youyou know, and in america, we as blacks will like down each other on how good we speak. but we're speaking english. iten there's nothing whiter than english. we're not in our native tongueoc ,actually . so we judge each other on whitegol go lines, not based on exactly n what our culture is based on . >> so you can agree or you can disagree, but it's pretty clear that what you just heard is not the approved script. ovedand famo

a lot of young voters, they get taken in by saying " the democrats started the kkk," end they do notmocrat. host: markel -- marc hill. guest: i think steve is educating the audience! appealing to racism as a means of recruiting voters is very much part of the republican strategy in the 1950's and 60's. i think that the formation of the republican party, the democratic party over the last 3 years has demonstrated a radical shift in ideology. republicans are the party of lincoln is historically accurate, but it is hard to imagine their political agendas aligning today with anything that is abolition. similarly, the ku klux klan was started by democrats, but those democrats are not the same democrats we see today. i am neither a democrat or a republican. i i'm not saying this to endorse or defend one party or another. in all parties -- it would be dishonest to pretend that the current republican party not overrepresented by racists. when you find people who have extreme views against black people, extreme views against trans folk, extreme folk against jewish brothers and sisters, extrem

he talked about margaret sanger and the kkk involvement in its founding.but what i actually found most interesting were all the things that he had to say about marriage and family. and i wanted to talk to you about those are issues that are really important to take a look at this clip, the media ridiculed me for getting the house next door to come to see my children, and they even said that i was talking her and her new boyfriend because i bought the house next door to see my children. >> what do you think about his overall message about marriage and kids? being a father, being a black father? >> is so important these days? you know, connie, he has a way to deliver that message that creates a stir. but then after the dust settles, you realized the spirit that is coming from the biblical context in which he's really standing on . and i think it's beautiful for a black man to be in a situation like that when we have so many fatherless kids throughout our community to actually stand up for his children front and center and be bashful about that. to actually m

he never praised the kkk. he denounced it in the harshest terms. he never endorsed birth of a nation and asked major theaters not to show it, and examples can be multiplied. this is not to excuse wilson for think of the terrible things that he did do and the consequential and damaging legacy not just for race relations, but for actual living black americans both in his day and in our own. it's just to say that i think in today's day and age it is critical that an organization like the wilson center insist on the importance of fact, for if we no longer believe in facts on the importance of evidence of that can be and has been examined subjectively. there's plenty to criticize wilson for without assuming things based on his southern birth or making things up. that only invites a damaging backlash. second point, i think making wilson into a caricature or hideous alien monster that in no way resembles his enlightened, white, progressive descendants today is dangerous to the cause of racial justice. the fact is wilson, i don't think, was that different

a lot of young voters, they get taken in by saying " the democrats started the kkk," end they do notote democrat. host: markel -- marc hill. guest: i think steve is educating the audience! appealing to racism as a means of recruiting voters is very much part of the republican strategy in the 1950's and 60's. i think that the formation of the republican party, the democratic party over the last 3 years has demonstrated a radical shift in ideology. republicans are the party of lincoln is historically accurate, but it is hard to imagine their political agendas aligning today with anything that is abolition. similarly, the ku klux klan was started by democrats, but those democrats are not the same democrats we see today. i am neither a democrat or a republican. i i'm not saying this to endorse or defend one party or another. in all parties -- it would be dishonest to pretend that the current republican party not overrepresented by racists. when you find people who have extreme views against black people, extreme views against trans folk, extreme folk against jewish brothers and sisters,

but what that means is that you can't have the kkk. you can't have states deciding how the people within the are going to live without us having basic rules of equality before the law, and equality of access to the judicial system. and the, in terms of teaching, that becomes the key to everything we do. because of course, it's ignored until the 1840s -- sorry, wrong century -- 1940s. but once the supreme court starts to say that we are going to apply the first ten amendments of the constitution to the states, the bill of rights to the states, by using the 14th amendment, that's something our entire system of the american, government erica, the civil rights protections, the right, getting the win right, at the right to be represented in court, this is regulation, labor laws, all of that comes from the federal government saying, no, you can't screw around with the citizens in the states. and people don't understand that nowadays. they're like, oh, well, let the stick to whatever they want! and this is why i stop people in the course rest