you know. it's something that you know, i still i'm still working through it, but it's something also that affected me so, so deeply because, you know, the the sexual assault that i experienced before, most of it happened around it was like my early twenties, late teens, early twenties. it was when i was still like trying to, you know, find myself, quote unquote. and i blamed myself. and i went through the next 20 years blaming myself every single time that happened. oh, it was because my shirt was cut short and my, my, my shorts were really, really sure. it was because i was out walking with friends when i met them and you know, and i was dressed a particular way so that, you know, so that's why it happened. so when they took me out on the date, they just assumed that that's what i wanted. or, you know, like i, i made all of these excuses for what happened to me and all of the blame fell on me. so when that happened, a few year back in 2016, i have a book begins. i was wearing scrubs. i had ju

and you know, what was very powerful to me, you know was at a time in which you know you had you know, you know the president was kind of thinking this and kind of a grand national dimension. right? did you had a senator? you know who's talking about kind of what he personally had experienced and what it had meant for his hometown and what it meant for the people he knew right? and i think you know one of the things that i think partially will address you know this separation of powers crisis, which you accurately identify is civic education, you know where both representatives and people realize you know, what the role of representatives is, you know, and again, i mean simpson, you know just was so beautifully embodying that and that's something that we've lost. and that i would like to see more of and again i think civic education is a big part of that. well, i appreciate the story very much. i wish that there were more people in the senate today who were as capable. as alan simpson was and as honorable in their service, but the reason that congressman avoid responsibility is becaus

you know, he married, he met, you know, he got a job. he got one of his first jobs preaching in a small kind of an internship, preaching job. and he stayed with a family in alabama. this family's daughter was in school and he saw the photographs of her and thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world and said, i'm to marry her and she comes home for the summer and they meet and he marries her. six months later. and he stayed with her for 40 years, you know, and they built a family. and she passed away in 1994, i believe. and he remarried. so he's been married 40 years and 25 years. so he's been married pretty much all of his life because he sees the importance of family. you know, he understands the importance of family. his daughter, who is the andrea, who's the head of the georgia aclu, plays a significant role in his life and his and as well as carrying on his legacy of service. you know, she's a you know, and of his children do that. so it's his great that he's built and family is at the heart of all of it. what was interest

just you know, i've known you for you know, many decades. we've all known you in in the public health field and it's a real, you know privilege for me to. be here with you to you know to talk about your brilliant new book. i want to just you know start simply. you know explain the title silent invasion and you know the reasons you wrote the book what you talk about a little bit at the beginning of the book. yeah, great professor and i'm gonna call you larry. so thank you. it's really an opportunity to be with you again. we've had a long career together battling pandemics around the globe and making sure the most vulnerable are served and i hope we take that message here in this country, but i called it silent invasion to really raise the alert that despite the capacity. we hadn't been diagnosing truly diagnosing respiratory diseases ever in this country. i was confronted that in africa 20 actually in 1998 where fever was treated first as malaria, and then it's something else and then it's something else and maybe it was tuberculosis and mayb

i didn't know the story. i knew, you know, in mobile you drive around and there's a mural of the clotilda and you know, it's the last ship that brought enslaved people into the country. but i didn't understand the nuance that it came in in 1860 and it had been illegal to bring enslaved people in to the country since 1808. but this illegal trade kept going. and so the clotilda was the last ship to come in before the civil war. so my friend, the bass pro shop scott tells me this story and that when the ship arrived, they hid it, they burned it to disappear it because the federal agents were already looking for it, because the guy who paid for the whole trip had been blabbing, the whole time the ship sailed to africa. so? so they burned the ship the night it came in. and people have been looking for it for the next hundred and 60 years. so my friend tells me to look for it. and i said, that's ridiculous. it's like looking for buried pirate treasure. there's no way i'm going to find it. but he knew i had made a d

well, you've raised me well, you know, it's, you know, it's military is ready, you know, kicking rushes bucks and everything. and it's total and utter nonsense, you crazy military is not doing well. and as, as are shown, is like the last weekend rush, you can just simply escalate it to the point of really great completed to any moment you could just slap its fingers and bring your brain to say, the whole notion that ukraine is winning. and then you crank a somehow when the war and then somehow the issue is, well, should we start with will the pre february, 24 orders are we also include a war objective as if any of this is any bearing. it's all on reality. and, and this is a, what's happened in nature, i mean that they believe their own p r, which is very dangerous. you know, you never supposed to believe your own publicity. and as you say, what you crane are we talking about it's, it's recently unlikely there's going to be anything very much left of ukraine other than maybe just a little bit of a, a land mass around the key. if i, yes, you know, the delhi, i an old, you know, shilton bu

if i, yes, you know, the delhi, i an old, you know, shoulder and bug and i was, you know, having, having these absolutely ridiculous discussions. so as you say, i no idea what, what they're talking about. i don't think anybody else does either. you haven't learned it. big thing the, the question of what is european security going to look like? because the reason why we're, we are where we are, is that we are at the behest of the united states and it's accolade the u. k. they created a european security system, not only without russia but against russia, and they want to do it again. and then we have to look back to december 17th on a sound like a broken record, but we had, you know, what russia set out very clearly in black and white, what it expect expects for its own security needs within europe. this is being completely ignored. again, and because it was ignored, we know what happened on february 24th. so what are these people thinking about mart this? i'm sorry to put it seems to break it to you, but they are thinking of you super state, which is what they've been dreaming. also deca

i know just you know, it's, like i said, a you know what, you the same, wait for the current american shipment for the leadership of the u. s in the house . could you see you tomorrow, even if you feel the breed, even of all debris just if you're just rock or if you keep a lot of people watch c b s, we're not going to do with the war. this is all war or, you know, if you have to humiliate, you know, you are, all russian needs, say, you know, road good american can. so just want to play well, well these people ever since this is the science in every sense, political sports. ok. and that point we're going to jump in here gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break will continue our discussion on some really stay with our team. ah, ah, ah . ah, welcome to crossed out. were all things considered? i peter, well this is the home edition to remind you were discussing some real news. ah, let's go back to next year. we're all in moscow on this edition of the program. earlier in the, in the 1st part of the program. these are, i don't see the attacks on these of the

know, in america. and i thought if people know better, they'll do better. but it took me a minute to realize people even when people do better and do everything and do their best, then there still is this health disparities, poor health outcomes still exist. and it happened in my family strivers. and it happened in some ways to me with my own birth and see it in my friends. and i really see it now that i've sort of opened the lid on it and started talking about it. now i hear every kind of story and this lived experience, storytelling is, you know, really important to couple with the kind of evidence based research reporting that i also do. and love going back to my own days in public health, always struggle with term health disparities because i feel like it kind, just sanitized the or packages what a stunning difference ways of life and material conditions for people you're talking about on both ends both in a birth and in early death. a significant difference in how people live and die. can you tell

we're concerned about, you know, prison guards helping, you know somebody escape or, you know, having romantic relationships. i mean, you know, okay. well, whatever. there's a whole range of issues that get thrown us and we don't devote nearly enough time to, i think that which maybe matters the most. that's the state of our democracy we need to talk about it more. our leaders need to put issues front and center. you know, as a as a proud democrat, i think that's one of the issues we should be running on. you know, certainly the let's talk about the progress the biden administration made in dealing the pandemic, bringing economy back. but let's also run on democracy. let's run on democracy. you know, where you all where does where do you stand on on partisan gerrymandering, you know. yeah. know people's eyes glaze jeremy and eric. what are you talking about? well, if you care about a woman's right to choose or if you care about criminal justice reform, if you care about climate if you care about election protection, all of that stuff is directly related. as sam said before, to to gerr

you know, he he never wanted me to to know real he didn't ever want to know about bad. he did.and for me, myself, i feel like i've lived a sort of a version of that too with my friends, you know, i don't i don't want them to know when i'm doing bad. i just want them to know about, you know, when are great in my life. and i've started to take the attitude that everybody is struggling in their way and the more kind of real you can be with people, the more it might them. and you're brave to put your real this in your book. thank you, jesse i appreciate it. um, anything else? emily, you said you had multiple questions, but i only heard one of the second one. i think you kind of touched. but i'll just ask if there's anything else you would add. i was wondering, with all your discussions with drill's dad afterwards, what you thought that he say about things that could happen to change this cycle of poverty and violence? you of just touched on it but i don't that you mentioned good jobs but i don't know if there's anything else that you could imagine from point of view. well, i have t

you know, we have been through a period, you know, as you suggested. we're there's a bit of a tug of war in our political process so for growth and growth is something that we usually think of an economics as being about science and technology and about organizations to accommodate it. i'm really worried about politics and i'm very worried that we're in an environment where the political process has proposed protectionism of a variety of ways of firms of international markets of jobs that really goes against growth and that leads me to sort of the political observation, which is that growth is like the head side of a colon. it's the one we all love to talk about is economists policymakers love and business people do but every coin with the head says a tail. the tails is disruption and there isn't a serious model of economic growth that doesn't also entail enormous amounts of disruption and i think the political process hears cries for help if you will the demands. and the supply side from politics has to take one of two forms. it could be walls and tho

and so, you know, the pride of seeing the rise of, you know, first senator obama and then, you know, president obama, like you could feel electricity on the south side of chicago. and so, like, i just i remember those moments and the pride around him and also a lot of that mirrored mayor harold washington, who was the first black mayor of chicago and what i fascinating is that he he became mayor, i believe, in 1983. and it was a very polarized time. chicago is, one of the most segregated cities in a lot of racism, i believe king once said after he left there, if you want to know i'm paraphrase zane, but if you really want to know how, know real racism looks, you can look no further than chicago. and so the energy that took to get mayor washington elected in the early eighties it really took a coming together of community organizing. like this is also the era of kind of like post fred hampton assassination the city and he had built what called this like rainbow coalition of different groups coming together that had their identity interests but came together through know kind of shapin

, there's a, you know, reminiscent of the raj, you know, those are what we have the, you know, the british government telling us what to do, and i think that's been very, very important part of russia diplomacy. and extraordinary did it. how actually the west continues to blossom at the united nations. essentially it's the same gang always together and the rest of the world just isn't buying into it. in a martin, it goes back to is a hotly debated in the seventy's and the 1980s about past modernization. and of course there was one school of thought. the going to be have true modernization it through westernization, and that's being put to the test right now because my demanding that it must be through a westernized, you pull in this neil liberal ideology. ok. it's much more multifaceted than that. and of course, you know, jamie raskin that's already been mentioned here. he can conceive of that. there's only one half of development. he is truly the 21st century. is greatest bolshevik. go ahead, mark. yeah, i mean it's, it's still a punter as well, isn't it? no matter how are you look at it,

you know, i, i was, you know, and so i was over.as 40 years old, you know, i had just turned 40, i believe. and it was, you know, it was just that mindset that, hey, like, i blame myself because of all these things before, but this time those things weren't in play. and so so i've just been really trying to dig through that. and so it was important to start with that because that also happened right after my first run for office. and so it was i was just so much as my life was changing and i was finally thinking i was getting my life together and moving forward and things were starting to make sense that that just like crashed everything all at once. now so much of the book, especially you're talking about your experience with sexual assault, both as a young woman and years later after your first run. i was really not. i was saddened, but not surprised because your experience is a lived experience of so many black women. yes. who have been touched by trauma and violence and abuse and sexual assault during the during the chapters tha

, know, i might as well.e in leadership be if the person in the room making the decisions and and that's kind of the approach that i've always had is it when i'm gone someday, i want people to at least say she lived a life of significance. so that obsessiveness that you describe actually lends a lot more context with story you talk about in not my first rodeo lessons from the heartland about soon after you first arrived in the state legislature, and it was about the issue of abortion, which is very timely right now and i just want to read from this from your book, but you you immediately and correct me if if i miss remembering the story here governor, but you immediately proposed legislation. to pro-life legislation to curtail abortion rights or or however you would like to describe it and some other republicans also obviously pro-life republicans in the legislature told you was bad strategy. they weren't pleased with it. you immediately emailed your constituents back home that email made its way into a blog.

you know, aspect? i don't know how widely known that youtube is, is the search engine itself even though it was one of the driving forces. why google scooped it up. yeah, it was it was early in youtube's life. so it was 18 months after it started in october of 2006. google agrees to buy youtube for $1.6 billion, which at the time was just enormous sticker shock for the financial, for the media world, for people inside google, certainly youtube by then had had already had sort of an enormous success finding an audience with viewers. it had started to become part of the wider culture or culture or pop culture, firmament and, and but google really saw youtube as a fantastic search property and in that way is as a threat in the sense that, you know, google is is wanted to become the best premier search engine remain on the internet. it's all youtube. people are going to youtube to look for just, you know, entertaining to pass the time and idol entertainment as well as to videos and seeking information in t

you know when one was. faced with you know, all the anxieties and deprivations of lockdown and everything. yeah, i'd come to my desk each morning and actually think you this is nothing here, right? put themselves through as you spoke you hinted on earlier. i mean they had so many barriers so they had to do things that were well people were running in the opposite direction. they were they were going it was just exactly exactly i mean it wasn't until november 1944 that the british and americans decided that women could join the official press corps. which meant that they could then travel? in official press transport they could sleep in the press camps. they could have access to daily press briefings all all the all the facilities that the men had taken for granted throughout. but it meant that for those early years my six women either they were reporting from areas of the war where the british and the american didn't have jurisdiction. all they were just finding loopholes and sneaking their way to the front

so i can understand why, you know, a fellow like, you know what i am going back to, you know, the colonial rhetorical rule of the jungle and europe is a jungle, is unless we go in and civilized jungle, doesn't we? our garden, if you don't see less jungle, it will invade us. this is unfortunate rhetoric, but it does reflect that we can't really imagine this new world order, which is now coming. i mean it's not in the future is already here and it's happening very, very fast. which is why it's difficult to adjust. well, i would follow up on that. i would say that i used to work global agenda gemini and my introduction, a global hedge. i'm on when it sees its power seating. it well lashed out and i think that's exactly what we're seeing right now, and i think that's what that's collected war, western war against russians all about gentlemen. that's all i want to thank all my guest here in moscow. i want to thank you for watching it here. are you next time? remember? oh ah, ah, personally, my organization has the apology, especially made up for many years and we know that it was wrong. we know

they simply don't know those who know goals on all day long. have you put that just why we want exist? some kind of the informational bible on bar and that's what it is. i mean, no matter how you try to reason with those people, we can agree with that there. yeah. understand. yeah, they got to tom tom because this is a big surprise. you know, they, you know, we always have to point out in this program is that when you have a bad narrative, you get bad results. ok, and this is result of this narrative. the interesting question is going to be is what will care with the backing of the us continue with the sabotaged events like the nord stream, like the cried me in bridge because you now they know what the reaction of the russians is going to be the question i want to ask all of you before the program is over. why didn't this happen or after february 24th, but maybe that's a moot point. tom, go ahead. well, when i say peters that they've opened up a can of worms, that they are, that now is, is very dangerous right now. civilian infrastructure in in

but in addition you know in addition though, you know how, you know, there's language change in our lifetime because you're having conversations like with your own family members. i think it's so interesting and kind of marvelous that you have this tension. it's not necessarily a bad thing. it's not it doesn't have to be viewed as a problem. you have younger people being innovative with language and doing things that you didn't do. you the older half of the population. i'm 56, so you know, there are things that are weird me to acquire at this point but they're they're holding on to certain things and then you're in the middle you're in the optimal position frankly you should relish it for now. yeah, i see. oh, but i forgot the prepositions i was taught in school. end with prepositions. the reality is. if you went around recording us throughout our lives, you would hear people ending with prepositions a lot for if you're talking to friend, i think it's highly unlikely, unless you are an unusual person to say something like that is the book about which i was telling you. i would say that's the

and, you know, the i think the ones that resonate most with, you know, people from, you know, just a know they're they're sort of general relationship to this history as the desegregation of public schools in mississippi, mississippi, alabama and arkansas as well as the of the the the insurrection act to the rights of civil rights protesters to march from selma to montgomery. so there are there are other instances, and they are they don't necessarily fall in line with this trend. for example there were there was an invocation and seattle and tacoma washing tend to suppress unrest that occurred when white union laborers were trying to force chinese railroad workers out of the city in order to protect their sort of dominion over that that of work. so but nonetheless, do see these eruptions, though they in all cases they don't include african-america. you do see these eruptions occurring either, you know, to sort of suppress these race riots or enforceable rights, largely with african african americans or black people in america being the subject of this act. so that's overall context i

you know, these are people who saying that racism is a left wing hoax, you know, and you know, i knowpersonally, because many of these, as we call them, sort of black conservatives really, really my work, i really hate my work, you know, even, you know, john mcwhorter, you know, wrote a book attacking many of our sort of black writers and and so i just also don't want us to ignore that there is, you know, a growing number of black folks who are figuring out ways to tell on the slave revolt that we're building so that they can benefit and potentially even be freed and potentially even like the slave, the slaves literally, who who told on the could turn around and become, you know, a slave holder of enslaved people. so and so, you know, i just us to we're literally in this moment we're going in two directions. you know, the people and i just want us to call out those black folks and recognize black folks and challenge those black folks, just as we lift up those black folks like lady and kevin, you know, who are who are moving forward, lady helper, you know, agree this that's really wild

we are. 1 pivoting to asia, so you know, if, if your best friend keeps on telling you that, you know, he doesn't want to be your best friend anymore. it's going to impact the way you look at it. so yes, a has been building relations with china with russia, but also with the u. k. in with france and with brazil and with south africa, the south african president is in the kingdom at the and they're talking military. 2 procurement from south africa, so they're opening up strategic relationships with multi part because a monogamous relationship with america, given the american political system is not something that any country can rely on re, danny, what would you be advising the joe biden team to do right now that it's not doing a very generous of you and thank you for the compliment. i look into the joe biden team, isn't necessarily going to take advice from me, but i think there are plenty of people who are saying the same thing. you know, you cannot, you cannot tried to play these games in the middle east. i think the one point where i truly agree with with eileen. i agree with a lot

you know, the election, you know, into his presidency. i think that happened more than it should happen. i think you could definitely make a case that there was disproportionately too much attention given to the hillary email story. i mean, that was that hit home for me. this is my paper mean. it's not like i was in those meetings and. i was making those calls. but i will say and again, i don't say it defensively, just say it as someone who was sitting in newsroom for for for all those years as there is a lot of care and and really responsibility sort of put into you know whether you can use words like racist and lie the front page of the new york times. i think we the times went back when it was we it was easier to do after a while because it was sort of beyond argument but yeah i, i don't pretend that they got that right or we got that right every day. no, thanks. well, fair. but yeah. as a i can understand, while he was president that he gets all the air. but why now and why when he was in campaigning. yeah. i mean, you're still gettin

but, you know... it another thing — forgive me interrupting — which i certainly picked up when i talked to nadine doris on this programme, a deep, deep resentment at the assumption that because of which city you came from, you should have a certain sort of politics. yeah, there's definitely a bit of that. if you were if you were a rebellious teenager in liverpool, you were a conservative. that's for sure. and you were it was well, certainly you felt like you wanted if you wanted to be different. how posh was this school that you were at? well, the liverpool college at the time was, i would call it an eccentric school. a hangover of liverpool's past. a lot of sport, quite a lot of religion. and we were taught by a fantastic cadre of mainly men who were all in their kind of fifties, some of who obviously, given the time, had kind of as young men had fought in the war. and it was a kind of dusty. incredibly enjoyable backwater, i have to say. i mean, it was fun at school. we had fun. did you have much to

you know, it's hilarious. i, we, we probably don't realize just how weak the west is when it comes to actually going to war with the service. you know, we talk the talk because the ministry spending, you know, even if germany, to spend a 100000000000 euros and to ramp up this military, you know, and, and now we're talking about on the, you are me. so we don't have the strength, the courage to fortitude, you know, and to, to knows that. and this idea of ukraine joining nature is just hilarious because it's just a one more payoff. so i think for nature, you know, i mean. busy is, can, can pump out this absolute guff about nordic, not stream one and to being blown up. you know, to look at, look at the realities of this, of this, this, we can call it an act of terrorism. you know, by them actually when on the record and said we will stop these pipelines, you know, and his is half with deputy harris said the same thing. you know why joan is not joining up the lines because i told not to that told that's not the kin

so, you know, the whole thing about, you know, the european union was 2 things. the promise was prosperity and security. they have neither and the you are just make it even worse, george. yes, of course, this was entirely obvious from the beginning, and there was the united states back starting back in 2004 with the orange revolution that was going to use your brain in order ultimately to diminish and then destroy russia. and europe was going to get in the way and from the start of europe, victoria new choice words. right? yeah, exactly. is continue to follow the american line. and it will be all, this was all this, you know, here they started the imposing the mother of all sanctions. the europeans were going to suffer because it was the europeans who were the most dependent on russian energy, russia. and so now, you know, with clearly the americans were concerned that with winter coming, going to be strong protest in europe. and pressure would grow on sergeant schultz to knock it up. come to an agreement with russia and get that note street to bike line. go and

else knows. she was kind of okay with letting me know some of those pieces. she goes, but, nobody, ever never seen anyone who loved -- he is loved by everyone. i know him as a husband. so, it's this really, kind of, really beautiful, interesting place to meet george there, and then have bill, and babe, and frank, and lived in, all fill in the gaps of that about their experience with him. the first road in was your mom. >> yeah, [inaudible] she didn't pull any punches. >> she did, and that's a great way to put it, george. >> my wife, susan, will certainly attest that. >> she never liked you. >> that brings up an interesting question. [laughs] [laughs] because you're not only seeing rick play your dad, but you are seeing frank and mike, and chris. seeing them play men who you knew in a certain way, at a certain age, for sure now you are getting a view of them, what they were probably like younger. what was that like? >> you know, it was amazing, because i had [inaudible] it was august, that year, a

they know it. they know they cannot lose the black vote.hey will burn this country down before they do it. you'll not know that the truth about trayvon martin about george floyd. they tried to put hate crime. on derek choban, he's supposed to be in jail for the rest of his life for his actress ever what he did it was wrong, but he couldn't prove it was racial. but it didn't matter. they said this country on fire, but it was racial not it was irrelevant. it was his behavior. i agree was immoral it was wrong. that's exactly right and that's how i saw and they made it racial and told black people. this is america that i love the lord him mercy, they're gonna turn us back. they're going to turn us back and they did and their young black people out there. talk to young black person 23 24 25 years old. they think they were the same country. we were back in the 1950s. the democrats can never make us believe. that we are in a post-racial america where merit can move you to the top? so your proof of that merit hard work grinding when joe biden comes

so, you know and you know. it is easy now, especially with amazon to do a digital and it's not hard to either. i mean, it goes to that whole self publishing environment that sprung up, you know, over the last 10 to 12 years or so. so it's really easy. do this in terms of what the quality of some of these may be. you know, i'm not sure that obviously, if you're coming from an established publisher like, the ones you've talked about, you know what you're going get. you know what? depending on what else you want to how much you want to get involved, know by, you know, a cheap version. i'm sure it'll be fine, but, you know, it's buyer beware. you mentioned quality. i wonder, i don't know how many of these reports you've read over the years, but i wonder your thoughts on the writing itself when these reports come out, if they're written in a different narrative style by the committees, knowing that these things are likely to be bestsellers, are likely to be hits, as it were. does it change the way that these reports

and you know why we know what dinosaurs are. well, there there's once this kid named barnum brown who was after p.t. barnum because his parents took his older kid, his older brother, to the circus. and they came home, they couldn't figure out what to name their new infant. and the six year old came in and yelled thing. and barnum, because of this kid, this guy, we now know what the t-rex is and we have jurassic park and have all these horror movies billions of dollars and hollywood really can be traced back to this. one person wanted to make a life for himself and he happened to find on the find this. so let's get to that to that part. 1902 in hell hell creek, isle creek, montana barnum finds the very first t-rex and there's no other specimen. he finds that and really things for paleontology museums for dinosaurs because there are i mean there had been a lot discovered before this they've been displayed the public interest is not kind into it but it's not incredible what happens when he discovers those bones. so the public befor

>> you know, absolutely not.re seeing here, again, is misplaced priorities for the administration. while they're strengthening the iranian regime, the iranian regime is under attack from its own people. certainly as we look to the nuclear deal, the jcpoa that the obama administration had negotiated, it was not serving the united states, it was not serving israel and our allies in the area, it was permitting iran to continue its march to place the united states at risk. going back into a failed deal does not protect the united states. maria: congressman, i want to take a break, but when we come back, i want to talk to you about the fbi. we know this morning that adam schiff apparently met with some colleagues. he's trying to convince them to put him in a leadership position should the democrats take the minority. of i guess he wants to be minority leader. do you think that's possible, adam schiff? >> i don't think he has support of his own democratic caucus. i think they have as many questions about adam schiff's

you know, we're trying to push actors to like do what the people want, but, you know, there's, you know, there's no surefire solution. so i think what leaders should do is say, okay, this, this poll i'm getting from x advocacy organization or from why new york times report is a reasonably good indicator. but i'm not going to make all my decisions off of it. and not going to blasted out in like a campaign fundraising email or whatever to try to shore up support based off that like 1% over the 50% mark because it might not be real, but if you have something, a policy that's by 80 or 90% of the people, that's definitely above 50%. if it's if it's asked correctly before we get to audience questions, i wanted to ask you one last thing, and that is that in the conclusion the book sort of, you know, granting all of the all the problems, you do make a case for sort of greater use of polling in public life. so if you could just say a few words about about that case, but why we maybe should be using a little more than we even do a few words. so so one way this one way this could work to elevate t

you know, should you say something like, you know, privately you know, are you rude? is that being nasty? you know, that's a separate or should twitter be able to ban donald trump. well, yeah, it's a company. it can whatever it wants, it's not protected by the second members of twitter protected by the second amendment, but they say the first thing, the second amendment is a different one. yeah but should they? well, you know, i don't think. so to me, let everybody just have say, you know, don't don't be bad people. i mean, i guess, you know, if if there's a recruiting for isis. all right. i can see, you know, banning them. but, you know, even extreme person like alex jones for donald trump, let them have their say. i really would like to know what they're thinking and the case of trump. i mean, he has no filters would just say whatever's on his mind. three in the morning here he is on twitter. you know, that's good to know what the leader, the free world is thinking at three in the morning. right. so now he's gone. so i don't know what he's thinking. and so to me, i'

you know, people can come and give parties here and get married here. you know whatever. so the roosevelt school, the newly created roosevelt school here, which is a degree granting operation, just getting into going, which will be on public policy and international affairs. we are focused both the society of presidential descendants and the roosevelt school on training. first of all, on training the next elite group of leaders of our country in various ways, and in providing a forum for all kinds of thought leaders in the country to come here and wrestle with the issues. of course, this country has issues now, right? there's nothing to worry about. and two of the major sort of initiatives of the society of presidential descendants, other than just meeting every other year, one is civics education. one of the real problems face in this country is we've completely forgotten to educate our citizenry. you hear all the time about my rights. my rights, who has not told them that you don't get rights without responsibilities? and, you know, that seems to have completely disappe

know my history, you know why him. why would young think that i was trying to become something other than somebody that's actually trying to change this community? it was tough. that first run we didn't have, there were a few that supported us and was with us, but for the most part many were not. i even had some come to me and say, you know, i can't believe you are doing this.n' like, we don't do electoral politics. that was tough, you know, but, but when people started to see how much, not only me but there were two other activists who ran that were from the ferguson uprising, bruce franks junior who ran for a state representative seat and one and also shane aldridge who later took over bruce franks seat, they, you know, just seeing that we held to our values, we held to the reason why we ran. the reasons why we ran, and we were able to a least affect change locally, you know, and even for me in some ways on a national scale because bernie sanders, you know, opened up some doors for me. people were able to see, wait a