we're joined by dennis kucinich.ight surprise some of the people who are listening and watching right now, the former congress member who lives in washington right now. what are you doing in almedalen? about thisfound out amazing event here and had to see it for myself. can you imagine where people of every political persuasion come together in an open space from a freely discussing and debating in a sense of joy, i a festival? i believe what is happening here has the potential to catch on all around the world in terms of improving political dialogue and improve -- enabling people to try to find a way to reach common ground. >> joy and politics you say? >> absolutely. there should be. the fact that we don't have that is a testimony to our disconnecting from our own hearts, whatever it is we desire. life should not be a funeral march to the grave. we should have the capacity for being up to lift up not just a dialogue, but each other in a greater cause of nationhood. when you see the kind of conflict that happens in t

. >> from new york, we have a columnist and harry washington, and jackie kucinich political party for"washington post". the media seems to be swooning over her. >> she is going and campaigning for democratic candidates and she is doing the sort of things that are so signee we can not help but cover it as someone would might be making inroads for a presidential kid. lately in a lost reports i have seen it rather than her challenging hillary clinton, it is her making inraid if hinge hinge doesn't work she is there waiting. there is a shifting. it is not warren versus hillary clinton but she says she is not running. but how would she do against hillary clinton? that is the question. >> you look at the polls she would not do that well. hillary clinton leads biden by 50 points in iowa and 54 points in new hampshire. looking at what we are really talking about. what does the media do? they report the facts but also about infotainment going unchallenged is risk aversion and reputation. as we saw during the book tour that does not generate pages or sell a lot of newspapers. what would happen

. >> joining us now is joe concha, jackie kucinich.these stories say the left has a love affair with elizabeth warren, but it seems like the media are swooping over here. why? >> she is doing some things that candidates do. she is going and campaigning for democratic candidates. she's speaking at networks, she's doing the sort of things that are so shiny that we can't help but cover it as someone who might be making inroads for a presidential bid. that said, lately in a lot of reports, i've seen it, instead of her challenging hillary, it's her making, i guess, inroads so this hillary doesn't run, she's she'll be there waiting. there is a shifting in that it's not warren versus hillary, it's warren versus question mark. >> warren says again and again, no wiggle room, i'm not running. segment says she says she's not run, but how would she do against hillary clinton? >> if we look at the polls, she probably wouldn't do that well. but let's look at what we're really talking about here, which is what does the media do these days? it reports

. >> i am sure kucinich.my question you said there were a number of people who believe slavery would eventually eradicate itself. was in a brand like it one of those people who believe that as a believer in technology as he was hit by a tech elegy but eventually make slavery too expensive at this point just before the war in technology would replace the slave and it would take a hundred years but it would die off? >> no ,-com,-com ma i don't think he thought like that. he doesn't talk much in terms of political economy that way. towards the end of the 1850s he gives a few speeches on the superiority of slave labor. as this law partner pointed out, intended to be moral. if anything, he seems to be slavery so economic or powerful that it has to be stopped legislatively. but it's not like william seward who goes to the other extreme and makes the most complete argument that slavery is doomed once you surround a matter what diet its own accord because it's not economically feasible. lincoln didn't talk that way v

. >> kucinich, "u.s.a. today" kirsten powers and national review's jim garety? >> the tool is right. not sure it's the right tool in the toolbox. feels like a gamble. people ask whether the house has the standing for lawsuit. if they win look like geniuses they managed to point out that the stopped obamacare and president isn't obeying the constitution. >> doesn't like to take up cases where it's an argument between two branches of government. they have to show they were injured by obama's actions. pretty hard thing to do. >> kirsten? >> i think there are serious people jonathan turley who they think that obama is exceeding his powers then you have to ask who can challenge him, right? and perhaps it is only the house. the response to that democrats are saying no, this is a political stunt. well, it can be both it can be a political stunt which i think it is. the timing is not coincidental. it happens to be election year. it also could be that they substantively feel that president obama has overstepped his bounds and think that he needs to be held accountable. >

. >> and joining us our political panel the "the washington post" jackie kucinich, "the washington examinerferrechio and "the weekly standard" john mccormick. john, secretary of state hillary clinton says reset worked. >> well, she said it already. she said it was a brilliant stroke back in june and it sound like it might have been a gaffe. buy she disubled doubled down again today. she is the one back there holding that fake reset button with the russian foreign minister pressing it for a photo on. she can't run away from this issue but she has to spin it as something positive. i don't think you can can critics would rightly argue. policy of appeasement. cowboy diplomacy we are going to be more reasonable, give them what they want. back away from bush's missile defense program in eastern europe. how is that working out? every place you turn, ukraine, syria, iran, russia has been emboldened. they haven't come around to our way of thinking and not just working out very well for them. >> susan? >> well, she had some successes it was interesting how she described them as sort of transactional

gerri: that is kucinich. kukus. >> that is finished by lunchtime.it before you leave home? >> the spinach dresses itself as day goes on of the you can bring a little container of dressing. gerri: peanut butter noodle salad. >> i'm going to put you to work. with peanut butter. we have soy. gerri: nice combo. >> a salt. here we have sesame oil and rice wine vinegar. gerri: that is good. >> we have a sweet, salty, tangy, a lot of big flavors going on. and then once that is all mixed in together we're putting in -- these noodles are great because they're great for dinner. gerri: are these just pasta. >> it is just spaghetti. gerri: you guys don't get complicated. >> we don't want to get complicated. in other words, we're making it accessible. >> we have rotisserie chicken here. gerri: beautiful. look at that. >> grill two chicken breasts and use extra chicken and you can use that. gerri: a little brightness there. >> exactly. cucumbers for freshness. the great thing about salad, eat it for dinner. it is good next day. it is good cold. it is good warm. g

jim garry the "the washington post" kucinich and rick klein.cognize we are taking sningts while he is out doing fundraisers. what in the world his pr advisors must be continue ears or. >> we heard from the president he is not interested in photo ops. that's what this was a scheduled. >> a really bad one wrong kind of optics. bad kind of optics democrats commenting on it you have time to do that. >> what kind of dim wit suggested that he do that? >> they are trying to make him look like the regular guy out there. >> regular guy guy is unemployed. >> bear is loose. in this case i think the timing more than unfortunate when you realize what's going on on the border. >> that's why you are hearing democrats, his own party criticizing him. congressman quir told me today he needs to stop drinking beer and go to the border. hear that from democrats who supported him through this that's a big big problem. >> jump go to the border is a photo op. but is he a lawyer. all we lawyers are trained to go to the scene so you truly understand it. he won't go near

. >> dennis kucinich and others brought articles against him. >> back in 2006 on the subject, nancy pelosiquivocal on her position to impeach when the subject was raised. i've said it before and i will say it again, impeachment is off the table. she shut it down right there. has john boehner shut it down with that same bainer? >> john boehner shut it down. their voices are saying -- >> speaker boehner answered a question from luke russert. he said, i disagree. that's not unequivocal. and again -- >> he's scared of the base. >> and he's been scared since 2010 when they came to washington. this is a guy that's many times done things that people view as something to throw a bone to the tea party base. and then he ends up being devoured by that same base. that's why i'm of this belief that the lawsuit that speaker boehner has now, suing the president is going to eventually lead to the impeachment of the president -- >> they don't get their way in the lawsuit. >> exactly. >> that's the question. i hear what you're saying here, this is a huge political mistake for republicans. what happens, sort

i was working with dennis kucinich, it was a bipartisan effort to slow the president down, and i think our office and others, barbara lee, who i respect and appreciate, a democratic colleague, we worked together to slow the president down on syria. i can't tell you that we stopped a war. i've never said that. but i do know that the president took notice of this, so the notion that the default position is to blow things up, it's opposite of that. >> what about the privatization issue that she raised? >> what i'm saying here is i'm perfectly fine with the v.a. continuing to be the formal v.a. system to provide the care for our veterans but this is managerially for the v.a. to pivot as quickly as they need to pitt. this is a venting system if you will to help with the demand that is very real. i know it because of the district that we're in. we have wonderful staff member, a veteran himself who is dedicated exclusively to trying to be a liaison with the v.a. and other members of our office help here. there are so many men and women who have served honorably who need help and aren't gettin

president that led us to libya, and over the objection of my efforts, and i was working with dennis kucinicht the time, who was in congress, i voted for his bill, he voted for mine. so this was a bipartisan effort to slow the president down, and i think our office and others, barbara lee, who i respect and appreciate, a democratic colleague, we work together to slow the president down on syria. i can't tell you we stopped the war, i've never said that, but i do know the president took notice of this. the notion that the default position is to blow things up is just the opposite. host: what about the privatization? guest: well, what i'm saying here, bonnie, is, look, i'm perfectly fine with the v.a. continuing to be through the formal v.a. system to provide the care for our veterans, but this is managerially, logistically not possible for the v.a. to pivot as quickly as they need to pivot. so this is a venting system, if you will, to help with the demand that is very real. i know it because of the district that we're in. we have a wonderful staff member who is dedicated exclusivelyly to tryin

. >>> let me bring in lauren pox and politics reporter for "the washington post," jackie kucinich.e, i will go first with you. this is an article by your colleague who calls this shift by president obama's striking because after his re-election the president called mcand inequality a fundamental threat to the american dreams. what's happening here? >> it is an election year and they are finding that this isn't an issue resonating with their voters. we know that democrats have a problem with getting -- little bit of dash what's the word i'm looking for? gap between the enthusiasm of their voters this year. they need messages that will get their people out to vote and income and inequality was not calling fire. >> the article of -- also says that the shift underscores the ongoing dispute between the democratic party's liberal and honor wings over how to address income and inequality. the left takes a more combative tone seeking to volk us on the income gap. it is an election year. how will this play out as we get closer to the mid terms? especially control of the senate? >> if you lo

when we went in the kucinich case, we came back and got hit pretty hard with campbell. so those decisions exist. but certain things, i think, should be clear. the supreme court has never, never closed the door to legislative standing. indeed, members of congress have been recognized as having standing and not just in subpoena cases, just recently the supreme court accepted the standing of blag. now, i'm willing to certainly say -- >> you know where i'm coming with that. >> so i will say -- there's a real problem of giving him his own mic. i object to that. i will say that in windsor, there are unique circumstances of question of abandonment by the administration. you have to consider that with that caveat. but in coleman, you had nullification arguments that prevailed. and we have had the recognition of members in different capacities. i'm not saying that this is going to be an easy fight. i think congress has it on the merits. i think the president has the advantage on standing. but the outcome in this case in the long run, i don't think you can honestly say that this

and i was working with dennis kucinich at the time who was in congress. i voted for his bill, he voted for mine. so this was a bipartisan effort to slow the president down. and i think our office and others, barbara lee who i respect and appreciate, a democratic colleague, we worked together to slow the person down on syria. now, i can't tell you we stopped a war, i've never said that. but i do know that the president took notice of this. so the notion that the default position is to blow things up, it's just the opposite of that. >> host: what about the privatization issue she raised? >> guest: well, what i'm saying here, bonnie, is, look, i'm perfectly fine with the v.a. continuing to be through the form alva system to provide -- formal v.a. system to provide care for our systems, but this is logistically not possible for the v.a. to pivot as quickly as they need to the pivot. so this is a eventing system, if you will, to help with the demand that is very real. i know it because of the district that we're in. we have a wonderful stand member, a veteran

tons of people who find this to be a sympathetic message but millions who found deny it's kucinich messageroader message than she has and bigger ties to the establishment if you're going to influence national politics on. it's still a pretty conservative country. you see populace like bill clinton was a populace but he found a way to play in the center and even towards the right. so i just think, chris, what -- we have elizabeth warren, if she ran for governor of west virginia, how do you think she would do? >> it's a lot of about guns and religious and religious culture and it didn't help people that they cling to their guns and their religion. so what? get used to it. that is who we are at americans. we do have a culture and believe in it and at tough times we cling to it for our own good and the way it works in this country. i do think west virginia is a problem for the democrats. so is kentucky. i love allison lundergan grimes and think she is a hell of a candidate but coal is not helping her out there. the president hasn't helped her with the co 2 emission standards and it won't help

political commentator and washington correspondent for the new yorker ryan lizza as well as jackie kucinich of "the washington post" and chief national correspondent john king. you are seeing, obviously all of this, john, ratcheting up the pressure on congress and president obama to do something about immigration. we now know president obama is planning to go it alone. what are his options and what might he announce if he's talking about executive actions? >> i think you have to take this in two parts. the short term is he'll take the resources he can control now and get them down to the border and he'll ask for more money and for people to help process to deal with the humanitarian crisis, but he's taken a tough rhetorical line and it could take months in some cases and could take longer that in his view most of will be returned. >> then he says the lawyers will look at this over the summer and in august heading right into the midterm elections and then he'll decide what else he can do. he can't give the undocumented citizenship and he can't give them legal status and can he create a guest

when we went in the kucinich case, we came back and got hit pretty hard with campbell. so those decisions exist. but certain things, i think, should be clear. the supreme court has never, never closed the door to legislative standing. indeed, members of congress have been recognized as having standing and not just in subpoena cases, just recently the supreme court accepted the standing of blag. now, i'm willing to certainly say -- >> you know where i'm coming with that. >> so i will say -- there's a real problem of giving him his own mic. i object to that. i will say that in windsor, there are unique circumstances of question of abandonment by the administration. you have to consider that with that caveat. but in coleman, you had nullification arguments that prevailed. and we have had the recognition of members in different capacities. i'm not saying that this is going to be an easy fight. i think congress has it on the merits. i think the president has the advantage on standing. but the outcome in this case in the long run, i don't think you can honestly say that this

feel about the independence coming out, like dennis kucinich?one that interests me is jesse ventura. i would love to see him run, but the way that i see it is i see a desire for people to want to embrace the independent parties. let's look at this. the bushes, the clintons, hillary running in 2016? kind ofthat people are getting tired of it, and away. guest: again, i mentioned this before, but there is no question that there is a dynastic element to american politics with the clinton and bush running against each other again and as you say, it is genuinely unappealing to a lot of voters. i think that there are hidden advantages to that that are not always talked about, but at a gut level that can be unappealing. you have mentioned jesse ventura. i have not heard his name tossed have peopleyou do like rand paul among the republicans, as well as bernie sanders, speaking to that sense that there is just something not going right with the current two-party system that we have and it will be interesting to see how much of that independent spirit some

when we went in the kucinich case, we came back and got hit pretty hard with campbell. so those decisions exist. but certain things, i think, should be clear. the supreme court has never, never closed the door to legislative standing. indeed, members of congress have been recognized as having standing and not just in subpoena cases, just recently the supreme court accepted the standing of blag. now, i'm willing to certainly say -- >> you know where i'm coming with that. >> so i will say -- there's a real problem of giving him his own mic. i object to that. i will say that in windsor, there are unique circumstances of question of abandonment by the administration. you have to consider that with that caveat. but in coleman, you had nullification arguments that prevailed. and we have had the recognition of members in different capacities. i'm not saying that this is going to be an easy fight. i think congress has it on the merits. i think the president has the advantage on standing. but the outcome in this case in the long run, i don't think you can honestly say that this