again, police. >> that is our local affiliate, kxas in dallas. were tipping into the live coverage that appears to be happening next to the dallas police department in a garage. tammy leitner is there and new information there. what's going on? >> reporter: that's right, chris. my producer gene schuh is back there behind the building telling me they've closed off the road and not letting cars go through. it's near arnold street and lamar street. he's saying there are seven officers, some in tactical gear. they've taken position on top of an apartment building and they're focused on the parking garage. some of them do have long rifles and they are in tactical gear. again, focused on this parking garage that is behind the police department headquarters. >> we know that there were reports of some kind of anonymous threat called in earlier today. we do not know as of this moment unless i'm wrong but we don't know if that's the situation to which these officers are currently responding to. do we? >> reporter: no, that's correct. i can tell you about t

kxas tv serving our dallas fort worth station there. we are so importathe busiest ni the tragedy of dallas texas. thanks, we'll be talking again along the way. this was just handed to me of the new york post. >> not a comment to ha"not a co to have it was certainly an act of urban warfare, as we said. an attempted assassination. the successful assassination of at least four police officers. and i'm not sure we have a good idea of the full number of the wounded and injured. there were early reports that minor injuries were sustained, major enough to require people going to the e.r., because of the sheer mass of people, the stampede effect to get out of there. we saw the gentleman who spoke to us from the hospital door. wounds that have to be called superficial in light of the terrible gunshot wounds we've seen tonight. but there are a lot of folks who are going to be seeking treatment for wounds in dallas, texas. remember, with all these rounds in the air, the possibility of being struck, ricocheted rounds off pavement, off a building. t

one suspicious device was talked about earlier tonight, but kxas, our television station in dallas, is reporting that the threat has been neutralized. we assume that means the death -- chris jansing is here with us in the studio -- the death of this suspect. >> and we saw at that press conference, the dallas police chief, david brown, who said at the time, after taking just a few questions, that he was going to do what has to be one of the toughest jobs that any leader in law enforcement has to do, which he was going to go look at a series of tactical pockets that his staff was putting together for him, to neutralize this ongoing and dangerous situation as police have what they believed was the final suspect in the el centro garage there. and, again, with the overhanging weight of the threat that had been given to them, saying that the suspect told police there are bombs all over this place, in the garage and downtown. and so the fbi was on-scene. the atf on-scene, canvassing for explosives. and as you pointed out, brian, that suspicious package was found, and they had the dallas polic

also, what has come in to us via our station kxas, is the following. this is sound, apparently an interview with a person identified as the brother of the suspect, the brother of the person of interest tonight. we're all going to be hearing this for the first time. >> that was him. on that corner, that was him. he didn't have a firearm. because i had a feeling with him having an ar-15 with him, when shots started firing, i said give your gun to the cops so there's no misidentification or question, nothing like that. and even though he gave his gun to a cop, they still got him plastered all over the media. >> so you saw him hand his gun over to police? >> 100%. whatever cop was on that corner there, he gave it to that cop. he don't have his gun. >> so you are confident? >> 100%. listen, man -- hold on, first of all, these guys came with him. so these are his classmates. 100% it's not him. >> we came together. he didn't even have it loaded. so i don't know what is going on, why we're still here. there's no other suspect. but he's not a suspect. we drove

he's reporter with kxas in dallas, he's on the scene. scott, what is the situation there?rter: it's very tense where we are right now. we're in the west end section and police here with guns drawned. they have told us to stay back at the particular corner that we're at here, they're still concerned about possibly one of the shooters being up high on a building. i just talked with a witness a minute ago who is describing one of the officers who shot and standing near it will offshore. the witness described about 50, he thought about 60 shots fired when that officer was hit. this is just one location. there are a number of other locations we have police right now that we're seeing militarized. there's an area around the college that seem to have veered in on a shooter there, lauren. >> are you saying -- you spoke to an eyewitness who saw a police officer shot? >>. >> reporter: yes. witness who was standing near an officer. it was one of the first couple of shots that he heard and the officer fell to the ground. aufrgs was taken away injured. the witness is not sure how the o

scott, your kxas colleague scory schmidt was here last night. they got incredible video. >> they were right in the middle of it. at first didn't believe what they were hearing, thought it was firecrackers. then realized as people ran for cover, what was unfolding. the situation was still incredibly intense. officers with guns drawn telling us to get beside buildings or below walls. >> did they know where he was? >> they didn't. the frustrating thing from officers, they just didn't have a sense of where the shots were coming from and with the noise echoing off of buildings in the downtown area, it was very hard for them to detect the direction of the fire. >> as i was watching on my laptop, that's the first thing that struck me, where did you know it was coming from because it echoed? >> then later in the evening we had that dramatic blast that we could hear which we now know was the police sending that robot in and ending the suspect's life. >> we know there are hotels here, some people locked in and watching what's happening. >> people out on t

any officers involved or any else injured will be okay. >> i want to go back to scott friedman of kxas on dallas. he is on the street, the scene there near where shots were fired, joining us by phone. caulk to us about the dallas police relationship with the local community the way the dallas police handles a situation like tonight, a demonstration like tonight under normal conditions. >> one of our other reporters out here covering the protests tonight said there were moments in the crowd police were even posing for pictures with some of the protesters. we've seen that happen before in some incidents and other parts of the country where there have been marches, they've been very pea peaceful. dallas police have done a lot to try to aleve concerns in the community and try to build those relationsh relationships. so this is very surprising to everybody tonight. this was not anticipated to be a very tense protest or situation where any felt concerned about this kind of thing, i think, heading into it. >> scott, it wasn't expected to be tense because of the way the dallas police conducted

and station kxas reports he was laughing and singing during his hours-long standoff with police. >> the suspect said he was upset at white people. the suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. >> reporter: the march began just after 7:00 following this week's high profile police shootings in louisiana and minnesota. starting in belo garden park near main street, the first hour largely peaceful. officers along the route not wearing riot gear, even posing for pictures with participants. but just before 9:00, chaos caught ducking for cover. >> shots fired. officer down. it's an assist officer. >> reporter: panic in downtown dallas. >> just started to run and grab kids and help their mothers get to somewhere safe. we didn't want anyone else to get hurt. >> reporter: community activist jeff hood had organized the protest. >> every 25 feet, and that's when i heard it. pop, pop, bah, bah. that's when i looked up and i saw what i believe were two police officers drop. >> reporter: at 9:41 police cheer out thl out theer bank of america building, the city's tallest

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. >> just in kxas is reporting that suspect has quote been neutralized. cal, a lot coming in through the news room throughout the night. tell us what you have seen. >> an the targeters targeting the end of the march. they were working hand in hand. they were actually live tweeting the protest when the shooting sort of began. >> and the officers didn't have on their vests, right? >> yes. they were in a very relaxed environment. you can see them behind the engine blocks of cars, ducking for cover, running. we also know, and there's video circulating online, one of the gunmen circling around behind the officers and spraying them with machine gunfire which is why police say it was an ambush. >> so we know one person they say has been neutralized. if they were saying there were two that were firing ambush style. >> yes. two were dez off of i-35. the third is a female suspect. they believe she may be -- >> would that have been the person in the mercedes? >> we don't know. we believe the female was arrested in downtown dallas but we are wait to ing to confirm. >

earlier in the night our nbc dallas affiliate kxas spoke to a man claiming to be the brother of thistured there. he told reporters that officers have the wrong person. >> i knew. i had a feeling because of this situation, with him having an ar-15 with him, when shots started firing, i said bro, give your gun to the cops so there's no misidentification, there's no question, nothing like that. and even though he gave his gun to a cop they still got him plastered all over the media like he's a suspect. >> saw you saw him hand his gun over -- >> 100%. at this point, whatever cop was on that corner there, he gave it to that cop. he don't have his gun. >> so you are confident -- >> 100%. my brother was marching with us. and so, because he's my brother, and i understood -- i understood the severity of the situation my first instinct was to tell him get that gun away. the fire is coming from a different location. but i knew, i knew, because he had his firearm, that someone was -- a cop could misidentify him or something like that so i made sure he gave his gun to a cop. >> do you know where

in dallas, kxas, we'll stay on this, more later of course, on this network on your late local news and on msnbc all night. >>> for viewers who remains with usz us on msnbc, we are back with you. really what we have been calling a national tragedy. a national emergency tonight in the dallas, fort worth metroplex area specifically in the cbd, central business district of dallas, texas, where right now we are awaiting for a press conference from dallas police. we have reasons to believe the mayor of dallas tax will be at this event as well. we are going with the number from them. we had 11 police officers hit. that also means police officers have been targeted. we had 11 of them hit from gunfire and we have had four fatalities. we believe all four are police officers. we believe it is more than one jurisdiction. there is dallas pd and dart transit cops. dallas area rapid transit, while smaller than number than the metropolitan police department there. they have a huge responsibility and a lot of territory, it includes bus lines and includes light rail, all things mass transit. the problem

nbc affiliate kxas is reporting that one of the suspected shooters has been, quote, neutralized. we're not sure what that means, but that's what we're hearing. >> >> reporter: shots fired over the protest over two police deaths of african-american males this week turn violent. at least ten officers shot with multiple fatalities. >> i ask everybody to focus on one thing right now. that is the dallas police officers, the families, those deceased, thoed in the hospital. >> reporter: a sharp contrast to the peaceful demonstrations until baton rouge. that incident caught on cell phone video is provoking questions and outrage nationwide calling for the officers to be charged with murder. if governor asked to keep the peace. >> now may be a time for demonstration, may be a time for protest, but there is no time for minnesota. >> reporter: continues in minnesota. video of the routine traffic stop turned deadly wednesday night also went viral. it shows the moments after the officer shoots casteo. his girlfriend streaming it online. mark dayton called for justice. >> would this have happen

. >> we'll send it now to our sister station kxas in dallas and to scott friedman. >> reporter: micahjohnson was laughing, not afraid, singing. he told police that heha working out in preparation. i'm told johnson was wearing a military-style bulletproof vest. he told police he spent time in the military and was carrying a military-style rifle. he did do deployments to afghanistan. a law enforcement source tells me johnson was hit by gunfire before going into a community college campus building that officers actually followed johnson's blood trail into the building. police found him on the second oor and then fired more rounds through a wall. apparently hitting johnson again and wounding him. after that, the negotiations with him began and after several hours, johnson threatening to charge the officers. johnson indicated initially he only wanted to talk with black police officers, that he didn't want to have anything to do with white people. i'm told he shared police conspiracies and his dislike for police officers. in terms of intensity in this situation on a scale of 1 to 10, this i

. >>> let's bring in chris van horn from kxas in dallas. a lot has happened.ring us up to date. >> reporter: they have the one suspect they killed with that explosion on the second floor. they won't say how many other suspects they might have in custody or if they will be pursuing anyone else. they will pursue just about everyone. this is about a 20 block area closed off and this is a massive crime scene. this is on the northeast side of the campus. this is on the ground out here. the big news is five were killed and all of the others that were injured, most of them have been released, none of them are critical. that is good news. the mayor and chief of police, the city here is heartbroken. you can certainly see the somberness knowing most of these officers were wounded. >> there are no words to describe the atrocity that happened. do you can certainly understand that. let me play what the chief said when he was describing a possible motive. let's listen. >> he was upset about black lives matter. he said he was upset about the recent police shootings. the susp

i want to go to katie blaky with our nbc station kxas, live at dallas city hall. and katie, explain some more of the details that we have been able to learn just over the last few hours, since we heard from the mayor and police chief. >> reporter: well, you know, we heard from them just a little bit after sunup. and there were some revealing information they gave. that was the first time we really understood what had taken place. there downtown between police and that suspect, who has now been identified as micah xavier johnson. that's what a law enforcement source confirming to nbc news and our local sources here in dallas have confirmed. what they were able to tell us, as we know, shots rang out just about 9:00 dallas time last night. there was a lot of chaos as we know. but in the few hours ago, we learned that police were involved in that standoff situation with this man who appeared to hole himself up inside a parking garage at el central college, a community college here in the heart of downtown dallas. what we have learned from authorities is that when tryi

between the gunman and police, let's bring in scott freeman, lead investigative reporter at nbc station kxasdallas, doing amazing work all night long. thank you for making some time. it must have been an incredible scene. what happened? >> i wasn't there right as the shots started but we got there shortly afterward and it was still just an incredibly tense scene. as we tried to walk into the area we had officers guns drawn coming right at us saying get down or move to the side. they were trying to move people out of the way for their safety but in the darkness and the chaos there, very scary situation. they couldn't tell where the shots were coming from. that's what was frustrating them the most. the sounds in the downtown area bouncing off of the buildings, very very hard for them to tell the direction of fire. >> at a certain point, they corner this individual in essentially a warehouse, right? >> in a college building. yes. law enforcement source with knowledge of what went on inside there tonight tells us that the suspect during this hours-long standoff with police -- >> it went several

let's go to chris from kxas in dallas.s happening as this day begins. >> reporter: well, right now about a 20-block area, five by 20 block area, that is how large this crime scene is. i'm at the corner next to a dallas area rapid transit bus stop and transit center here. buses would normally be coming and going. troopers have come out to assist as dallas police certainly have been here throughout the night. when i got here around 2:00 this morning there were around 20 officers around this particular location. officers all over downtown dallas and as soon as those shots rang out those officers rushed to this area to assist other officers as well as all of the protesters that were protesting peacefully in one part of downtown here to the west end of downtown. again, as you mentioned, two of those civilians were wounded. we don't know the extent of their injuries and then the injuries, five in total dead, four dallas police and one dart officer. the reason dart was here is because the protest was coming towards the rail line,