la pierre, that's the point. the criminals won't purchase the guns because there will be a background check that stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. it's basic. >> i think you missed -- >> let there be order. please wait. i said earlier, there will be order. >> joining me now from washington is connecticut senator richard blumenthal who said as a member of the judiciary committee, senator, thank you for your time. how would you describe what played out today? is it progress or maybe a clear picture of how strongly both sides feel and maybe there is no room here to budge. >> both really. progress because it's a first step towards marking up that which the chairman said what happened this spring. probably next month. second, it illustrated the gaps in views and also the common ground in so far as enforcement of existing laws as well as new laws to make sure there is enforcement. particularly by background checks. i am hopeful there will be common ground to fill the so-called gun

after today's display from wayne la pierre and the n.r.a. my question is this why was he even at the hearing this is an organization that does disagrees with most of its own members on commonsense gun control and is completely out of touch with what the american people believe needs to be done about gun violence in america it's an organization that's been taken over by out of touch radical gun industry shills who lost nearly all every election they invested in back in two thousand and twelve on the other hand la pierre makes over a million dollars a year i guess if you pay well enough some people will say anything that's my take now let's turn over tonight's program. it's was there let's rumble join a franchise along liberal rubble our former congressman ernest istook now distinguished fellow at the heritage foundation and horace cooper a conservative commentator a research fellow at the national center for public policy research gentlemen thank you both for joining me thank you i appreciate all the kind words you've been saying. let's get i

you need to know this so wayne la pierre says this.the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally in and invested in a plan of absolute protection the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun so by extension the n.r.a. his solution to too much gun violence in america is to increase the number of armed people in america especially in our schools after all what could possibly go wrong . well in response to newtown a school in michigan hired a retired police officer and firearms instructor to be that school's armed guard to use the public boy's bathroom and left his gun behind where it could be found by one of the kids yes they two men got into an argument at lone star college in houston one twenty two year old carlton barry is alleged to have pulled out a gun and started shooting and only somebody else in the room we don't yet have the details fired back at him in the crossfire a school janitor was shot and another person is reported to be a student was also taken to college students p

after today's display from wayne la pierre and the n.r.a. my question is this why was even at the hearing this is an organization that does disagrees with most of its own members on commonsense gun control and is completely out of touch with what the american people believe needs to be done about gun violence in america it's an organization that's been taken over by out of touch radical gun industry shills who lost nearly all every election they invested in back in two thousand and twelve on the other hand la pierre makes over a million dollars a year i guess if you pay well enough some people will say anything that's mighty now is turned over to night alone the problem. it's was there let's rumble join the franchise along liberal rubble our former congressman ernest istook now distinguished fellow at the heritage foundation and horace cooper a conservative commentator a research fellow at the national center for public policy research gentlemen thank you both for joining me thank you i appreciate all the kind words you've been saying let's

they are the gun debate with testimony before the senate from gabby giffords and wayne la pierre and immigration reform from the bipartisan plan and the president's speech in las vegas and the hagel nomination for defense secretary. the battle lines are being drawn being drawn with guns. word now that another plan is brewing in the senate. a comprehensive bill by tom coburn and chuck schumer on the left. the same one who joined general and marco rubio on immigration. watch your back there. to kickoff the coverage, we bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell with developments on guns. we heard a portion of gabby giffords's statement at the top of the show. i want to play the rest right now. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. thank you. >> kelly, obviously that was a gripping way to start the hearing. where do we go from there? >> it is rare you have something so emotionally and politically charged and have a witness like gabby

wayne la pierre won't be there. it's possible that they are out here and looking for someone right now. >> howard, i do know. it's going to be james l. baker who was a 30-year vet, former executive director of the nra. we do know. >> good. the symbolism is still such that there is no deal with the nra unless wayne la pierre is in the room and there is no deal regardless i don't think. even the mindest form of legislation on trying to reinstitute the assault weapons ban that lapsed. any kind of language is not acceptable to the nra that view this is as a call to arms. the obama administration said legislatively the strategy will be to try to isolated nra and you can pick off republicans and get the cooperation. i'm a little skeptical that in the house they will get votes for anything that smacks of gun control. i wonder, what i'm sensing is if there ends up being a compromise, it will center around mental health. is that your sense? >> my sense is they are going to clothe whatever they are going to try to do with as

you see la pierre, and then you see david keane, much more calm.esting how they are playing it. >> the president says our journey is not complete -- from the inaugural address. our journey is not complete until all of our children know they are cared for and cherished and always safe from harm. it doesn't sound like a rant against the second amendment and the nra. >> maybe not in that speech, but clearly the administration is looking to do what the nra is saying, creating a national registry, and a lot of people and i believe that the government uses that information to intimidate people. you punish law-abiding citizens and don't get to the heart of the matter. >> hong onang on a second. what evidence is there of that? it seems like a common-sense measure. alex jones on with piers. to find out that guy has 50 guns, makes you stop and thing for a moment. >> we saw a news outlet, blog, post the names of everybody who has a neighblicense to carry a . you know, that's a form of intimidation. and i think it's very important that people understand that t

in fact, just days after the health care law was signed, reid invited wayne la pierre, a top official at the nra, to the opening of this nevada weapons range. >> people who criticize this probably would criticize baseball. >> reporter: la pierre's visit was a big boost for reid, who was courting gun owners in his very pro-second amendment state of nevada, in a tough battle for re-election. >> i also want to thank you, senator, for your support every day at the federal level for the second amendment, and for the rights of american gun owners. >> both reid and the nra declined to talk to cnn on camera, but democratic sources on capitol hill say the nra was not the only threat to the president's health care bill. lawmakers were also worried about conspiracy theories, circulating among gun enthusiasts that falsely accused the obama administration of plotting to use the health care law to go after gun owners. one group, gun owners of america, insists it could still happen. >> it says that all of our medical records are available to be pawed through by bureaucrats somewhere in washington, l

has wayne la pierre speaking to this point last week president obama who wants to redefine freedom live the way freedom and in friendship on the freedoms that we the people reserved for our selfs. their god given freedoms they belong to us in the united states of america as our birthright no government gave them to us and no government can ever take them away their guns are god given rights god gave us out of uneven the animals and then he gave us the guns to shoot them all and then there was the prominent conservative publication the national review which ran an article by david french who writes quote jesus is disciples carried swords and jesus even said in some contexts the unarmed should arm themselves gun control represents not merely a limitation on constitutional rights but a limitation on a god given right of man that is it that has existed throughout the history of civil society state action against the right of self-defense is by default a violation of the natural rights of man. in other words a ban on ammunition mags that have thirty bullets and god will smite be sort of make

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time for the nra membership to stand up and say wayne la pierre is not the sole voice of the nra. we're talking about life and death, fax matter thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. @Ñhd

on december 21, wayne la pierre blamed all of these mass shootings on the mass media.he had to say. >> then they all had the nerve to call it entertainment. is that what it really is? isn't fanaticizing about killing people really the filthiest form of pornography. they compete with one another to shock, violate and offend every standard of life but by bringing in even a more toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty right into our homes. >> let's blame hollywood. let's blame the culture of violence. let's blame the movies. except literally 20 miles away from where he was speaking the nra museum had an exhibit known as "hollywood guns." where they glorify guns that are used in hollywood movies. let's take a look at an nra spokesperson actually a curator for the museum talking about this in greater detail. >> welcome to the gallery of the national firearms museum. this year's special exhibit is called hollywood guns. the firearms on exhibit here range from the early 30s all the way up to films that have not come out in the theater year. we have the pistol robe

la pierre's position on this issue.e a position on this matter. but i disagree with him. most law enforcement executives across the nation and the individuals i represent in the law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence, we disagree with that -- with him. >> mr. la pierre also talks about the significance of guns and why americans need guns. something he said brought up something from you yesterday that caused a moment of tension in the hearing. i want to listen to him when he talked about why americans need their guns. let's listen. >> i also think, though, that what people all over the country fear today is being abandoned by their government. if a tornado hits, if a hurricane hits, if a riot occurs, that they're going to be out there alone and the only way they're going to protect themself in the cold and the dark when they're vulnerable is with a firearm. >> now, when asked about this, you called this creepy. what did you mean? >> well, what you didn't play, though, was the introduction by the senator wher

i want to ask about the nra and this is kind of -- wayne la pierre, one of those who will fight you tooth of the things he said. >> politicians pass laws for gun-free school zones. in doing so, they tell every insane killer in america, that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. politicians have no business and no authority denying us the right, the ability, moral imperative from protecting ourselves and our loved ones from harm. >> wayne la pierre is coming before congress. what will you ask him? >> i don't know at this time. i actually debated him on cnn and other channels back in '93 and '94. i know his position. it has never changed. what has changed in this country is the continued use of these weapons. when we had the first mass shooting in 1966/67, the texas bell tower, i thought this was an aberration, but it hasn't been, and the malls, theaters, businesses, law practices, and now the schools. for me, sandy hook was an epiphany. the woman who had guns, who kept them i assume in a respectable area. she also had a son and that son is quite possibly

la pierre said that we needed more guns in this country, specifically an armed guard in every school.'m telling you what i think will keep people safe. when we have a police officer in every school. that's one thing we can do immediately that will immediately make our children safe. my gosh, people in the media i revere their communication skills but they have an obligation to be factual and truthful. >> eliot: i couldn't agree more. facts matter, so here are some facts. in chicago there have already been three gun-relateed homicide since new year's eve. here in new york city between the ball dropping in times square at midnight and 7:00 a.m. that same morning six people were shot in separate gun-related incidents. and none of these incidents nor most of the other shootings occurring each and every day would be prevented by the presence of an armed guard in schools. we promised we would not stop talking about this issue until meaningful gun control legislation is passed, and aiding more guns to our already violent society is not a meaningful proposal. there are 8,000 new members joini

executive vice president, wayne la pierre will testify.resident obama's recent gun control proposals won't keep the country safer. he favors steps like boosting school security and enforcing gun laws that are already in place. retired astronaut mark kelly, gabrielle giffords's husband, will testify for stricter gun laws. >>> 6:46 now. new this morning, boeing reportedly knew about problems with batteries on its 787 dream liners long before the planes were grounded around the world. nippon airways says before two battery fires on board of dreamliners this month, the airline replaced ten batteries in its aircraft several months ago. the airline reported it to boeing but not to safety regulators. after the replacements were made, the airline says some of them had to be replaced again. all 787s around the world are grounded pending an investigation. >>> bad news for apple following the lawsuit with rival samsung. cnbc's jackie deangelis live with that story and more. good morning. >> good morning, aaron. a federal judge rejected apple's reques

wayne la pierre will talk about enforcing existing weapons laws and boosting school security on the other side of the issue the husband of gun violence victim, gabriel giffords will testify for stricter legislation. the hearings are in response to the recent shooting massacre in connecticut and colorado. >> u.s. transportation secretary regulators looking at the 787 dreamliner. the national transportation safety board wants boeing to provide a full operating history on its lithium ion battery. japan's all nipon areaway said it replaced the batteries ten times because they failed to charge properly. a battery fire grounded a 787 at boston's airport this month. ama which operates has cancelled the flight through february 18. >> this morning congress start it is debate over immigration reform. the two sides trying to sort out differences between the plan and president obama's version. one key issue how long it will take for people in the u.s. to become citizens. they say five years but congress wants the borders secured first which could take time. >> we believe in immigration. we shouldn't

wayne la pierre will be one of the witnesses to testify before the committee holding a hearing on how to reduce gun violence. former astronaut mark kelly whose wife is gabrielle giffords is scheduled to testify also today. >>> top republicans are voice concern over the immigration reform. the president laid out his plan yesterday in las vegas. it calls for bolstering border security and cracking down on employers hiring undocumented workers. they want to make a path to citizenship to others. they would have to pay back taxes and pass a background check among other requirements. >> these 11 million men and women are now here. many of them have been here for years. the overwhelming majority of these individuals aren't looking for any trouble. they're contributing members of the community. >> if this had endeavor becomes a bidding war to see who can come up with the easiest, quickest and cheapest pathway to green card possible, this thing is not going to go well, folks. >> now, the president called a similar plan presented monday by a bipartisan group of senators encouraging. >>> this wi

wayne la pierre is an important voice for gun owners in the country. say controversial things. we saw him say some extremely controversial things. but having him at the table lending credibility and that's what they are thinking when they invite him to a session like this. >> it is an idea of you just let them speak. if you let -- in some instances, some of the ideas doesn't sound reasonable. do you think that maybe part of the plan to give him a huge platform with some folks like la pierre, like the press conference he had a couple of weeks ago. people are scratching their heads. >> this is where the head of the nra did not take questions an he will have to face senators who are opposed to what he stands for in terms of gun control. it is important to understand this is the first hearing. mark kelly who's the husband of a victim of gun violence, he's going to be there. he's obviously been somebody who's been outspoken in terms of what they would like to do in terms of future things. the other thing, republicans were able to put two of the panelists on

la pierre says congress shouldn't pass any new laws till the government starts enforcing the laws already on the books. susan mcginnis, cbs news, washington. >> it is unclear if gabriel giffords will attend today's hearing but connecticut center richard bloomenthal says there will indeed be a surprise guest. he's just not saying who that is going to be. >>> could there be a compromise coming on the controversial pit bull laws in maryland. montgomery county delegate luis simmons hopes to introduce a bill that will achieve that. last year pit bulls were ruled inherently dangerous. >>> a new display at washington crime museum takes a close look at dog fighting. the exhibit called dog fighting: the voiceless victims is sponsored by the uspca. it features items used by dog fighters. there's a skull of a pit bull that was removed from a grave site during a dog fight investigation. >>> stern words from president obama to congress regarding immigration reform. during a trip to his lass having high school, president obama praised the reform plan drawn up by a bipartisan group of eight senators. he

. >> that is a typically fired up wayne la pierre, the head of the nra. good morning, i'm mark halperin, this is "way too early," imagining all the people living in peace. thanks for being up with us this wednesday, january 23rd. there's a new debt ceiling plan from speaker john boehner and the house republicans that could force senate democrats to finally show their hand and pass a budget. plus it's only day four of president obama's second term, but joe biden is already commenting on possibly running for the top job himself in 2016. we'll show you what he said in a minute. first the new developments in the debate over guns in america. the national rifle association last night delivered a sharp response to president obama's inaugural address. speaking in reno, nevada, way waywayn wayne lapierre lashed out at one word from president obama. >> we cannot mistake absolutism, or treat name calling as reasoned debate. >> obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word, just another word for extremism. he wants you, all of you, and americans throug

i'm with you in the wake of the tragic events at sandy hook elementary enery vice president wayne la pierre called on congress to immediately appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school so yeah what is the solution to isolated incidents of extreme violence make every child live their entire school life at gun point before putting armed guards in schools maybe we should take a look at the fact that more than twenty five percent of american kids are on medication and that's just the kids altering their mental state legally mom is working two jobs so she isn't around dad is a wall and the t.v. who's the new parent shows kids nothing but images glorify violence revenge and torture when someone is getting harassed every day at school and maybe getting harassed at home they feel totally alone and they see no future and no escape from the hell that they're in they are going to take drastic measures to get out of it you know in the fifty's sixty's and seventy's there were still plenty of guns and there were no armed officers in schools but there were no shootings