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he goes back to mar-a-lago. he's immediately to mar-a-lago and coordinates with carlos de oliveira. you have carlos de oliveira walking around in the tunnels with a flashlight, trying to locate the surveillance cameras. they know they have a real problem now, because the government knows about the cameras, and there's going to be footage of people moving documents and boxes of documents in an effort to conceal them. so, they embark upon, if you, know the cover-up is always worse than the crime. and that is exactly what seems to happen here. i should point out, also, employee for an employee five, i, mean these are people who are clearly providing substantial testimony to the government already. employee for, his conversation with carlos de oliveira, is laid out in the indictment. he has testified to that, that testimony is in the book, it will likely come up at trial. the very expensive efforts that the fbi has conducted here to interview everyone, associate with mar-a-lago, that work has paid off for them. they have uncovered some dip very damaging witnesses. >> what we really see
he goes back to mar-a-lago. he's immediately to mar-a-lago and coordinates with carlos de oliveira. you have carlos de oliveira walking around in the tunnels with a flashlight, trying to locate the surveillance cameras. they know they have a real problem now, because the government knows about the cameras, and there's going to be footage of people moving documents and boxes of documents in an effort to conceal them. so, they embark upon, if you, know the cover-up is always worse than the crime....
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department on mar-a-lago. he's being represented by stanley woodward who is also will not his lawyer. who's being paid for by donald trump super pack were has been paid by trump super pac. that seems interesting to me, because if one of his clients is potentially cooperating witness, and the other's time a tricky opposed to him legally speaking, how do you represent both of them without a conflict of interest? >> i don't know. there is a conflict there as far as we can tell looking from the outside. that is a clear conflict. i would be surprised if that is not raised by the prosecution, and they don't ask the judge for what is called a -- to decide whether, objectively whether or not there is intact conflict, and so i think that that is one of the things that we can probably look to see. >> there's so many question marks and so many more questions that i have including everything that you just raised. thank you so much for your time, please hang with us, we have a lot more to get to tonight's big breaking news
department on mar-a-lago. he's being represented by stanley woodward who is also will not his lawyer. who's being paid for by donald trump super pack were has been paid by trump super pac. that seems interesting to me, because if one of his clients is potentially cooperating witness, and the other's time a tricky opposed to him legally speaking, how do you represent both of them without a conflict of interest? >> i don't know. there is a conflict there as far as we can tell looking from...
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instead, the special counsel issuing new charges involving mar-a-lago. former president trump now facing two new obstruction charges involving alleged attempts to have surveillance deleted. and tonight, a third person has now been named and now facing charges related to false statements when questioned about attempts to delete that surveillance. now, in addition to naming donald trump and his aide walt nauta, already charged in the initial mar-a-lago case, this third name has been added. and our team had reported even before today that the special counsel was looking into surveillance and whether there might have been questions asked about how to get rid of it, and whether witnesses were telling the truth about all this. the new indictment tonight in the classified documents case comes just hours after trump's lawyers met just today with special counsel jack smith and his team about what could still be coming involving january 6th. potential charges related to the attack on the capitol and alleged efforts to put in place fake electors. now, after that me
instead, the special counsel issuing new charges involving mar-a-lago. former president trump now facing two new obstruction charges involving alleged attempts to have surveillance deleted. and tonight, a third person has now been named and now facing charges related to false statements when questioned about attempts to delete that surveillance. now, in addition to naming donald trump and his aide walt nauta, already charged in the initial mar-a-lago case, this third name has been added. and...
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what allegedly played out inside a tunnel at mar-a-lago. the flashlight, the search and then those alleged words, the boss wants the server deleted. >>> also, as we start the weekend, the alerts for severe storms. the potential for damaging winds. possible tornados from chicago, the midwest and then right into the northeast. rob is standing by. >>> the special counsel's new charges against trump, his aide and property manager at mar-a-lago. the new and detailed evidence. the alleged phone call donald trump made hours after he allegedly learned the authorities wanted the surveillance from mar-a-lago. the call, then the aide who travelled to mar-a-lago. the flashlight, the tunnel, the alleged conversations and hunt for the cameras. employee number four, who would not go along with it. pierre thomas tonight. >>> we're tracking severe storms expecting powerful thunderstorms, warning of damaging winds and possible tornados, flash flooding from chicago, then moving east. new york and boston in the path later. rob marciano is here. >>> the story t
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have you seen any space at mar-a-lago that meets these requirements in any way?he spaces that these documents were stored in, certainly, are not up to those standards. and you know, i think the other thing that's important to consider about mar-a-lago is that we were writing the book, we talked to several counter intelligence analysts, and they pointed out that mar-a-lago not only has all these guests coming in from around the world, it relies on foreign workers, and their point was any foreign intelligence service, that did not have people on its payroll, either visiting or working, at mar-a-lago, was committing counter intelligence or intelligence malpractice. so, i think it's just a reminder, you know, how vulnerable classified materials could have been when they were stored in these kind of situations. >> yeah. and you mentioned walt nauta, sadie, this is really zeroing in on him, the way he's move these boxes even after his interview with the fbi. tell me the significance of unredacted least tails. what does it mean, now, four nauta and a c, or should, he se
have you seen any space at mar-a-lago that meets these requirements in any way?he spaces that these documents were stored in, certainly, are not up to those standards. and you know, i think the other thing that's important to consider about mar-a-lago is that we were writing the book, we talked to several counter intelligence analysts, and they pointed out that mar-a-lago not only has all these guests coming in from around the world, it relies on foreign workers, and their point was any foreign...
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department at mar-a-lago. it lays out conversations about going with a flashlights into a tunnel to identify the location of different surveillance footage cameras and beyond. it even talks about a moment when mr. de la vera apparently goes to somebody who is a director of i.t. and says i want to talk to you privately, and another employee is told to step out. so it leaves you wondering what the nature of that communication was. it also entails that these boxes were placed by nauta at some point and de la vera onto an aircraft that was traveling north to bedminster in new jersey with the trump family. and so all this tells you about just how many points of reference and evidentiary burdens would likely be met if you're talking about employees who were giving this testimony. it's really stunning to think about the breadth. i keep coming back to when was this all discovered, was it known all along, was there some reason why we're only hearing about it now, or was this part of a prosecutorial strategy to develop
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he's the head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. i don't think that's a 24-minute conversation about the state of road den drons at mar-a-lago. certainly we'll wait to see what we learn further after this superseding indictment. >> lisa reuben, i'll let you get back to that speed reading so we can all benefit from what you uncover later on. thanks for joining me. >> thanks, katie. the indictment also says the following. quote, deoliveira was asked the following questions in a voluntary interview with the fbi and gave the following false answers. question, when after the end of the presidency boxes arrived to mar-a-lago, were you part of any group to help? answer, no question, unload and move them? the boxes. answer, no. let's go back to maya, emily, renato, and nick. i know you guys also haven't had a chance to speed read the indictment in this case, but you heard what lisa reuben had to say. we have more employees being identified and we have our hands on text messages. emily, the more corroborating evidence that we get that proves
he's the head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. i don't think that's a 24-minute conversation about the state of road den drons at mar-a-lago. certainly we'll wait to see what we learn further after this superseding indictment. >> lisa reuben, i'll let you get back to that speed reading so we can all benefit from what you uncover later on. thanks for joining me. >> thanks, katie. the indictment also says the following. quote, deoliveira was asked the following questions in a voluntary...
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employee at mar-a-lago allegedly told the boss wants the server deleted. that employee's reaction and how it might have halted the effort to delete the video. donald trump's response tonight when asked what happens in the race for president if you're convicted. pierre thomas leading us off tonight. >> reporter: tonight the damning new charges against president trump, all stemming from what fbi agents saw when they were in mar-a-lago to recover classified documents in june of last year when they noticed surveillance cameras outside the storage room. the justice department team alerting trump a subpoena was coming. within 24 hours of being warned, they say trump got on the phone and called the property manager at mar-a-lago. carlos de oliveira, who then spoke with trump for about 24 minutes. it was the very next day the official subpoena from the grand jury is issued. then another phone call from donald trump. this time to donald trump's aid walt nauta. investigators say after that phone call, nauta changed his travel plans. instead of accompanying trump to
employee at mar-a-lago allegedly told the boss wants the server deleted. that employee's reaction and how it might have halted the effort to delete the video. donald trump's response tonight when asked what happens in the race for president if you're convicted. pierre thomas leading us off tonight. >> reporter: tonight the damning new charges against president trump, all stemming from what fbi agents saw when they were in mar-a-lago to recover classified documents in june of last year...
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it is not just the property manager at mar-a-lago being charged. these recharges against president trump accusing him of an extraordinary conspiracy to destroy evidence that was under grand jury subpoena. unprecedented in american history. >> katie, you dug into this a little bit. i want to you draw new strings, that is this legal defense fund now created by the former president essentially called the save america pac. they spend $40 million or so since the beginning. year. some of this fund will in fact cover the former president's legal defense. but also, co-defendants, right? like walt nauta and de oliveira. who else will be folded into this thing? >> well, the pac is not going to be covering trump's bills moving forward. the legal defense fund, excuse me. won't be covering it from what we've heard. it will cover associates, known associates being investigated that perhaps are looking the at cases that have already been filed like walt nauta as well as carlos de oliveira. a couple ways to look at this. one, ethically speaking, as an attorney, yo
it is not just the property manager at mar-a-lago being charged. these recharges against president trump accusing him of an extraordinary conspiracy to destroy evidence that was under grand jury subpoena. unprecedented in american history. >> katie, you dug into this a little bit. i want to you draw new strings, that is this legal defense fund now created by the former president essentially called the save america pac. they spend $40 million or so since the beginning. year. some of this...
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went back to mar-a-lago, and we did find a few pages with classification markings in mar-a-lago at that time. >> and what prompted you to go back? >> the justice department asked. >> got you, and you complied. during any of those searches, did the former president ever interfere with efforts to search any of his properties? >> not at all. i was given total free reign. the only minor interference, if you want to even call it that, was, when going through the residence, stay out of his wife and his son's way, baron. we stayed away from them, which is something we would have done anyway. >> it's referred that he was suggesting to one of his lawyers to perhaps tamper or even destroy some of the materials that he knew needed to be returned to the government. did the former president ever suggest that you destroy any materials? did he ever encourage you to tamper with things? >> not at all. >> did anyone in his orbit, any of his staffers, anyone who advices him interfere with any of these searches? >> interfere with the conduct of the searches, no. we conducted the searches. anything we found
went back to mar-a-lago, and we did find a few pages with classification markings in mar-a-lago at that time. >> and what prompted you to go back? >> the justice department asked. >> got you, and you complied. during any of those searches, did the former president ever interfere with efforts to search any of his properties? >> not at all. i was given total free reign. the only minor interference, if you want to even call it that, was, when going through the residence,...
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two days after that, de oliveira, speaks with mar-a-lago mar-a-lago d and tells him, quote, the bossants the surveillance server deleted. and later that afternoon, trump calls de oliveira, the to speak for approximately three and a half minutes, and it's these actions that result in most of the rest of the charges that are laid out in the superseding indictment. that trump allegedly worked with his employees to try to delete security footage from being reviewed by investigators. and in early august of 2022, the doj seeks a warrant to search mar-a-lago, and once again granted fbi agents conduct a search of mar-a-lago, removing 27 boxes and several other document collections containing 11 sets of classified material. on november 18th 2022, attorney general merrick garland announces jack smith will serve as a special counsel to lead the classified documents probe. fast forward to june 8th of this year, smith's federal grand jury indict trump, charging him with 37 counts on seven different charges, including willful retention of national defense information, withholding records, false st
two days after that, de oliveira, speaks with mar-a-lago mar-a-lago d and tells him, quote, the bossants the surveillance server deleted. and later that afternoon, trump calls de oliveira, the to speak for approximately three and a half minutes, and it's these actions that result in most of the rest of the charges that are laid out in the superseding indictment. that trump allegedly worked with his employees to try to delete security footage from being reviewed by investigators. and in early...
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and this includes former and current trump aides and allies who spent time at mar-a-lago.ent as a property manager. but the picture that we're getting is of a guy who was this low-level maintenance worker, who did these odd jobs around mar-a-lago. he didn't interact with the club members. he wasn't privy to high-level conversations. he wasn't part of donald trump's inner circle. he just was basically a maintenance worker, a property manager there. people didn't even know who he was until this indictment came down. what you have is this guy who was relatively unknown, who seemed to have been brought in allegedly to do donald trump's dirty work and get rid of this security camera footage, anderson. >> any sign of him? i know you went looking for him today. >> yeah, we tried to find him at his apartment in palm beach gardens 20 minutes north of mar-a-lago. we knocked on the door. nobody answered. nobody came to the door. we did speak to his landlord. the landlord described him as a good friend and a good guy. he said if he does know anything, he does need to come clean. the l
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prosecutors say de oliveira also asked mar-a-lago's i.t. director delete the server where the footage was stored, allegedly saying, "the boss wanted the server deleted." the i.t. director then allegedly pushing back, telling de oliveira "he would not know how to do that" and "he did not believe that he would have the rights to do that." de oliveira then insisting again, "the boss wanted the server deleted" and asking, "what are we going to do?" >> carlos, why not talk about what you know? >> special counsel jack smith is preparing to indict the former president again. in a separate case, this time involving his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. culminating in that riot on capitol hill on january 6th. trump today predicting the indictment could come any day now. the prosecution's now the driving issue of trump's own presidential campaign. >> i consider it actually a great badge of honor, i do. it's a great badge of honor, because i'm being indicted for you. >> reporter: and today, we're learning that trump used tens of millions of dolla
prosecutors say de oliveira also asked mar-a-lago's i.t. director delete the server where the footage was stored, allegedly saying, "the boss wanted the server deleted." the i.t. director then allegedly pushing back, telling de oliveira "he would not know how to do that" and "he did not believe that he would have the rights to do that." de oliveira then insisting again, "the boss wanted the server deleted" and asking, "what are we going to do?"...
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he is head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. how did he get wrapped up in all this? >> the boss wanted something done, right? what is so unique about this investigation is that, through our reporting, we have seen that pretty much every single employee at mar-a-lago has had to talk with special counsel investigators at one point. but there were a few who really stood out to us as possibly having criminal exposure, walt nauta being the first. we know he was pressed to flip and he did not do that. and here we have carlos de oliveira. as you noted, his job is in maintenance. but he came to our attention because we learned that he was also seen on the surveillance footage moving boxes with walt nauta. now, this surveillance footage was handed over to investigators, and one particular piece of surveillance footage that stood out is when he helped nauta move boxes out of a storage closet right before one of trump's lawyers was searching that same closet for classified materials. now, we know that carlos has spoken with investigators, we also know that his phone was seized.
he is head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. how did he get wrapped up in all this? >> the boss wanted something done, right? what is so unique about this investigation is that, through our reporting, we have seen that pretty much every single employee at mar-a-lago has had to talk with special counsel investigators at one point. but there were a few who really stood out to us as possibly having criminal exposure, walt nauta being the first. we know he was pressed to flip and he did not do...
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we'll get to that in just a moment but let's start first with the new charges in the mar-a-lago case. with us now is paula reed. this is really extraordinary. in some ways we've been talking to lawyers for weeks. many did not necessarily expect more coming for trump in particular but not only is it more, but so much more detail here as well. >> that's right. not only new charges but also a new co-defendant. here they're adding a one count of willful retention of national defense information and then two additional counts of obstruction because these prosecutors allege the former president and two of his employees tried to destroy surveillance footage. now, that surveillance footage has really been at the center of this investigation not only as evidence for prosecutors as they try to piece together where these boxes containing classified information moved throughout the property but we also know they've been pressing witnesses about whether anyone tried to prevent them from obtaining the surveillance footage or if anyone tried to destroy it. but it was interesting when we got the firs
we'll get to that in just a moment but let's start first with the new charges in the mar-a-lago case. with us now is paula reed. this is really extraordinary. in some ways we've been talking to lawyers for weeks. many did not necessarily expect more coming for trump in particular but not only is it more, but so much more detail here as well. >> that's right. not only new charges but also a new co-defendant. here they're adding a one count of willful retention of national defense...
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this goes back now to the mar-a-lago documents case. for our viewers, what is a superseding indictment, number one, and what do you read into the content of it? >> sure. number one, a superseding indictment is simply additional charges on an existing indictment. the first indictment of mr. trump and mr. nauta at mar-a-lago for mishandling classified documents and obstructing the investigation was unsealed about a month ago or so, willie. they have now added charges to it. they've added another defendant, mr. de oliveira. that supersedes the first indictment, it replaces it. it has additional charges, and we call it a superseding indictment. what do i make of it? well, you know, it's sort of sad in a way. when i was a federal prosecutor, there were always lower level individuals. i can tell you, quite frankly, i didn't get any joy out of prosecuting them. my goal was always to enlist their cooperation, to have them tell the truth. you know, each of them come to a fork in the road where they can either tell the truth or they can lie. if t
this goes back now to the mar-a-lago documents case. for our viewers, what is a superseding indictment, number one, and what do you read into the content of it? >> sure. number one, a superseding indictment is simply additional charges on an existing indictment. the first indictment of mr. trump and mr. nauta at mar-a-lago for mishandling classified documents and obstructing the investigation was unsealed about a month ago or so, willie. they have now added charges to it. they've added...
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lawyers for trump argued the trial over mishandling of classified documents at mar-a-lago, that trialbe pushed until after the 2024 election. federal prosecutors, on the other hand, want the trial to start this december. now, judge cannon did not make a decision on all that today, and we are gonna have much more on that story coming up. but even if judge cannon decides to delay this trial for these federal charges, for these federal charges, there is a good chance that no matter what, donald trump will be standing in trial for at least some of federal charges before the end of this year. and that is because today, we learned that special counsel jack smith has made one of the most important and consequential decisions to date. it appears as if he is ready to charge donald trump in his attempt to overturn the 2020 election. now, getting to this point, getting to this decision, to pursue trump for his alleged criminal behavior, is the culmination of an extensive federal investigation, an investigation that was arguably kicked into high gear thanks to a decision made by speaker nancy pel
lawyers for trump argued the trial over mishandling of classified documents at mar-a-lago, that trialbe pushed until after the 2024 election. federal prosecutors, on the other hand, want the trial to start this december. now, judge cannon did not make a decision on all that today, and we are gonna have much more on that story coming up. but even if judge cannon decides to delay this trial for these federal charges, for these federal charges, there is a good chance that no matter what, donald...
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the mar-a-lago documents case.can donald trump if he's the nominee, however he may succeed among republican primary voters, can he sustain four of those cases and possibly two or more trials during that period? >> of course the answer is we don't know. but that is going to be put to the test if he is indeed the nominee. >> and what he'll do is sustain the drama. that we can be sure of because he will portray himself as the victim of all victims, period, ever in the history of the united states of america. this is what he will continue to say. and by the way, i think in many ways when you talk to voters out there and you look at the polling, you know, the cake is baked. people aren't going to look at these indictments against donald trump and say oh, you know what? i like him more now. i like him more now because of what may be coming down the road. we'll have to see. the people who love him will continue to love him. >> gloria, look at the paradox. it seems all the data is -- and i saw this when we litigated the im
the mar-a-lago documents case.can donald trump if he's the nominee, however he may succeed among republican primary voters, can he sustain four of those cases and possibly two or more trials during that period? >> of course the answer is we don't know. but that is going to be put to the test if he is indeed the nominee. >> and what he'll do is sustain the drama. that we can be sure of because he will portray himself as the victim of all victims, period, ever in the history of the...
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he doesn't even go on to mar-a-lago.e oliveira goes out, goes to thumb bushes to meet with him, goes back, in and goes back out a second time to meet with nauta. what were they talking about? the indictment doesn't specify. panic time you see the sort of area of behavior, where someone is deliberately taking measures not to go into mar-a-lago, with now to charge coconspirators, it really, wanted to really compelling, dramatic narrative for a jury. but certainly, it kind of racist the question, what was so important that walt nauta was there over the weekend, was engaging in these meetings, but was absolutely unwilling to go to the mar-a-lago property? >> you know, peter, you mentioned a couple of minutes ago about that count 32, which were the top secret military plans that were not going to be shared, excuse, me with our foreign i guess, allies or even foreign countries. i had a little back and forth with andrew weissmann last night about that count. because that document actually ended up back in the hands of the feder
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>>> tonight, donald trump hitting the campaign trail after the new charges in the mar-a-lago documents investigation. mr. trump appearing with a dozen fellow gop presidential candidates in iowa it comes a day after that superseding indictment was unsealed the special counsel accusing mr. trump of telling a worker at his florida estate to delete security video as part of a cover-up. the former president slamming the new charges. if he's convicted, would he stay in the 2024 race? what he said about that today >>> plus, our one-on-one with governor ron desantis as he looks for a campaign reset how he's responding to black republicans who blasted changes to florida's teaching on guidelines around slavery. >>> just in, president biden for the first time publicly acknowledging the child his son hunter fathered out of wedlock as his grandchild what he's saying tonight. >>> under arrest, the alabama woman who admitted faking her own kidnapping the charges she now faces. >>> the hottest day of the year for millions in the midwest and northeast. nearly 150 million on alert. >>> the frightening i
>>> tonight, donald trump hitting the campaign trail after the new charges in the mar-a-lago documents investigation. mr. trump appearing with a dozen fellow gop presidential candidates in iowa it comes a day after that superseding indictment was unsealed the special counsel accusing mr. trump of telling a worker at his florida estate to delete security video as part of a cover-up. the former president slamming the new charges. if he's convicted, would he stay in the 2024 race? what he...
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and a third defendant, an employee at mar-a-lago, has been added as a defendant, as well. all this as the federal grand jury considering potential charges over efforts to overturn the 2020 election convene with a third indictment of mr. trump thought to be imminent, his lawyers today met with officials from the office of special counsel jack smith afterward, the former president saying it with us a productive meeting, that his lawyers told the special counsel that mr. trump did nothing wrong. all this coming after mr. trump recently received that so-called target letter from the special counsel. we have it all covered tonight with laura jarrett and jonathan dienst and laura, let's start with you and these new mar-a-lago charges what do they mean in the overall case >> well, lester, it's significant. these new counts just revealed by the special counsel's office minutes ago involve the classified documents case at mar-a-lago, where the former president is accused of mishandling classified material and blocking efforts by officials to retrieve those materials. these new coun
and a third defendant, an employee at mar-a-lago, has been added as a defendant, as well. all this as the federal grand jury considering potential charges over efforts to overturn the 2020 election convene with a third indictment of mr. trump thought to be imminent, his lawyers today met with officials from the office of special counsel jack smith afterward, the former president saying it with us a productive meeting, that his lawyers told the special counsel that mr. trump did nothing wrong....
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expert who oversaw the surveillance camera footage at mar-a-lago. the mar-a-lago property manager carlos de oliveira, who is also now facing charges, took him to a small room known as an audio closet. according investigators de oliveira ask trump employee four how many days the server retained footage. trump employee four responded he beeved it was approximately 45 days. de oliveira told trump empyee four that, quote, the boss wanted the server deleted. trump employee four responded that he would not know how to do that. and he did not believe that he would have the right to do that. these new details come as law enforcement braces for another criminal indictment, this time in the doj's january 6th investigation. cnn is learning officials believe the charges could come any time next week, and that the secret service, d.c. metropolitan police department, and u.s. capitol police are now working with u.s. marshals to prepare. security preparations also underway in georgia. orange barricades are now outside the fulton county courthouse. european union,
expert who oversaw the surveillance camera footage at mar-a-lago. the mar-a-lago property manager carlos de oliveira, who is also now facing charges, took him to a small room known as an audio closet. according investigators de oliveira ask trump employee four how many days the server retained footage. trump employee four responded he beeved it was approximately 45 days. de oliveira told trump empyee four that, quote, the boss wanted the server deleted. trump employee four responded that he...
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guy at mar-a-lago. he hired trump employee 4. he hired someone who would not commit the crime that donald trump and walt nauta and carlos de oliveira are now accused of urging him to commit. it didn't matter to trump employee 4 that the boss wanted the server deleted, and so trump employee 4 is not a codefendant in the superseding indictment filed in the case today. trump employee 4's next appointment with history is when he raises his right hand to take his oath as a star prosecution witness in the case of united states of america versus donald j trump, walt t nauta, and carlos de oliveira. leading off a discussion is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division of the eastern district of new york. is we're festive in practice at nyu law school and msnbc legal analyst. also with us, former u.s. attorney who served as the lead investigator for the reese's committee. andrew weissmann, i know you've had a lot to say about the superseding indictment that we got today. i just want to open you
guy at mar-a-lago. he hired trump employee 4. he hired someone who would not commit the crime that donald trump and walt nauta and carlos de oliveira are now accused of urging him to commit. it didn't matter to trump employee 4 that the boss wanted the server deleted, and so trump employee 4 is not a codefendant in the superseding indictment filed in the case today. trump employee 4's next appointment with history is when he raises his right hand to take his oath as a star prosecution witness...
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again, it is not clear that there is one at mar-a-lago.e is, he is a criminal defendant and it would be truly remarkable to put evidence in his hands. that's just how works. >> jim, let's talk of the other case that the special counsel jack smith is investigated. january 6th. today we understand donald trump's lawyers met with jack smith in do you have a sense of what they were hoping for with this meeting? >> so, we heard today. where they came out that they went in and they did not talk about facts and the law. that they went in and talked about the impact that this would have on the country. i do not think that will move jack smith one bit. and prosecutors typically when you go in and have these discussions, they do a lot of listening. no i love talking. and that is probably what happened in this instance. they were given the opportunity to make their pitch, they pitch i think indictment is comingnd soon. >> jim, one more follow-up to you. because you raised it. trump apparently, well this was in a truth social post. he says my attorney
again, it is not clear that there is one at mar-a-lago.e is, he is a criminal defendant and it would be truly remarkable to put evidence in his hands. that's just how works. >> jim, let's talk of the other case that the special counsel jack smith is investigated. january 6th. today we understand donald trump's lawyers met with jack smith in do you have a sense of what they were hoping for with this meeting? >> so, we heard today. where they came out that they went in and they did...
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just one day before prosecutors visited mar-a-lago. he was also the one who drain the resort pool, which ended up flooding rumors service containing surveillance footage was held. that's true or particularly notable. doesn't feel like a coincidence. because according to the new indictment trump seemed very interested in that footage once he learned that federal prosecutors wanted to get their hands on it. very interested. he wanted to know where it was. on page 27 of the indictment, prosecutors alleged, quote, on june 22nd, 2022, the doj emailed an attorney for trump's business organization a draft grand jury subpoena requiring the production of certain security camera footage from mar-a-lago. just one day later, quote, trump called the de oliveira and they spoke for approximately 24 minutes. that a day after that, on june 24th, trump's lawyers received a formal grand jury subpoena for the surveillance footage. and while nauta immediately canceled a planned trip to illinois with trump and made a beeline, a straight bee line from mar-a-
just one day before prosecutors visited mar-a-lago. he was also the one who drain the resort pool, which ended up flooding rumors service containing surveillance footage was held. that's true or particularly notable. doesn't feel like a coincidence. because according to the new indictment trump seemed very interested in that footage once he learned that federal prosecutors wanted to get their hands on it. very interested. he wanted to know where it was. on page 27 of the indictment, prosecutors...
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donald trump facing new charges in the mar-a-lago documents case, and now a third defendant has been named. the special counsel hitting the former president with additional charges of obstruction of justice and willful retention of documents, and now a third man, a maintenance worker at mar-a-lago also charged. what he is accused of. it comes as the trump legal team meets with the special counsel's office regarding that other investigation into efforts to overturn the election. our team of legal analysts standing by. >>> also tonight, the dramatic hearing to decide whether a michigan school shooter will spend life in prison. victims' families in tears as never-before-seen video from the attack is played in court. also revealed, disturbing entries found in the shooter's hand-written journal. >>> the midair close call on allegiant flight nearly colliding with a private jet at 23 ufo feet before taking evasive action. how did it happen? >>> the dangerous heat moving into the northeast, and the alarming data. will this july be the hottest month on record? >>> lebron james' 18-year-old so
donald trump facing new charges in the mar-a-lago documents case, and now a third defendant has been named. the special counsel hitting the former president with additional charges of obstruction of justice and willful retention of documents, and now a third man, a maintenance worker at mar-a-lago also charged. what he is accused of. it comes as the trump legal team meets with the special counsel's office regarding that other investigation into efforts to overturn the election. our team of...
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tuvo que tomar la iniciativa de sacarlos, sin importar si él no podía nadar >> sin pensarlo brinco al lagohogado >> cuidadodo con el f fraude, e servicio de rentas internas irs alertan una nueva estafa que llega por correo acá le contaremos como operarios criminales para que usted evite caer en su trampa >> noticias telemundo con julio baqueiro. >> muy buenas tardes soy aranza, hoy estados unidos celebra el 4 de julio pero esta fiesta de la independencia queda empañada por la violencia con armas de fuego. secretos tiroteos en texas y filadelfia han dejado por lo -8 personas muertas y ocho más heridas carla nos reporta desde filadelfia donde un hombre aparentemente disparó al azar a la gente en la calle >> filadelfia está de luto después del tiroteo masivo en la noche de este día lunes que empeñó toda celebración el 4 de julio la ciudad. hoy salen a la luz más detalles como está llamada de la policía >> [hablan en inglés] este video es parte de la investigación de la policía. el sospechoso de 40 años, que fue detenido disparó contra personas que caminaban en un vecindario al suroeste de fil
tuvo que tomar la iniciativa de sacarlos, sin importar si él no podía nadar >> sin pensarlo brinco al lagohogado >> cuidadodo con el f fraude, e servicio de rentas internas irs alertan una nueva estafa que llega por correo acá le contaremos como operarios criminales para que usted evite caer en su trampa >> noticias telemundo con julio baqueiro. >> muy buenas tardes soy aranza, hoy estados unidos celebra el 4 de julio pero esta fiesta de la independencia queda...
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obviously this documentary from the white house to mar-a-lago up to bedminster in back to mar-a-lago. i think there was a concern about who might have seen it. but secondly, something like this would provide the details that the u.s. military wants to make sure are kept quite secret because we frequently will make preparations for any kind of military action against our potential adversaries. and so a document like this that was shown to a president would have been at the strategic high level. it probably would've identified what type of military assets, naval, ground, air forces would've been used, what would've been the deployment schedule, the timeline of events, what time of preparation it would've engaged in in order to undertake some type of military action. which of our partners or allies might have participated in such an operation? -- >> it's such an important point. i obviously haven't seen the document, and it sounds to me, as you just described, one of those contingency plans. i have high security clearance, i would not have had access to this document. give us a sense of
obviously this documentary from the white house to mar-a-lago up to bedminster in back to mar-a-lago. i think there was a concern about who might have seen it. but secondly, something like this would provide the details that the u.s. military wants to make sure are kept quite secret because we frequently will make preparations for any kind of military action against our potential adversaries. and so a document like this that was shown to a president would have been at the strategic high level....
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searched mar-a-lago. that it is dangeroud profoundly responsible to have taken these documents from the white house. and left them unsecured in mar a lago again don't take just my word for it. trump's secretary of defense mark esper, said that the former president's handling of this information, but u. s service members lives in the national security at risk. and trump's handpicked the attorney general bill barr. with whom i his handpicked attorney general, bill barr, that this was "entirely of his own making." the government tried for over a year to get them back. he jerked them around. in his subpoena, he didn't raise any legal arguments, there was a clear crime if those allegations are . they simply could have returned the documents. and they seem incapable of assigning agency or responsibility to donald trump for problems that are trump's and trump's alone. the former special agent in charge of the office during the investigation into the office, last month, committee republicans brought him in for an
searched mar-a-lago. that it is dangeroud profoundly responsible to have taken these documents from the white house. and left them unsecured in mar a lago again don't take just my word for it. trump's secretary of defense mark esper, said that the former president's handling of this information, but u. s service members lives in the national security at risk. and trump's handpicked the attorney general bill barr. with whom i his handpicked attorney general, bill barr, that this was...
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that as new cnn reporting provides a window into what federal prosecutors knew before the mar-a-lago search. >>> plus, ron desantis tries to have his cake and eat it, too, but he risks angering the trump base by attacking donald trump while defending a video that critics say crosses the line into outright homophobia. >>> and putin, kim, trump. a new ad from team pence says the former president doesn't deserve a second term because he's soft on dictators. i'm abby phillip in for dana bash. let's go behind the headlines and "inside politics." >>> this morning important action inside the case against donald trump. the valet charged alongside the former president pleaded not guilty to six federal charges inside a courtroom after two failed previous attempts to arraign him. we start there in miami at that federal courthouse where cnn's carlos suarez is. what happened today in that courtroom? >> reporter: abby, the 40-year-old did not say a word as he left the federal courthouse here in downtown miami after pleading not guilty to obstruction charges and lying to investigators. now inside o
that as new cnn reporting provides a window into what federal prosecutors knew before the mar-a-lago search. >>> plus, ron desantis tries to have his cake and eat it, too, but he risks angering the trump base by attacking donald trump while defending a video that critics say crosses the line into outright homophobia. >>> and putin, kim, trump. a new ad from team pence says the former president doesn't deserve a second term because he's soft on dictators. i'm abby phillip in...
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the maintenance worker at mar-a-lago. additional charges for trump. same courthouse where trump indicted he has to appear there 10:30 a.m. on july 31st. makes no mention of trump having to return to that courthouse. we will bring you more details as we get them. john? >> john: griff jenkins outside the federal courthouse with the latest into that. griff, thank you. ♪ the reaction to last week's approval of a controversial new curriculum for florida public school students is intensifying tonight. critics say the lessons will replace history with lies. supporters say those critics are pushing a fake narrative of history. correspondent steve harrigan looks at arguments on both sides tonight. >> the florida board of education's new social studies curriculum is 216 pages long. but most of the attention has been focused on a single line about slavery. instruction includes how slaves developed skills, which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit, including the words benefit and slave in the same sentence has set off a firestorm among
the maintenance worker at mar-a-lago. additional charges for trump. same courthouse where trump indicted he has to appear there 10:30 a.m. on july 31st. makes no mention of trump having to return to that courthouse. we will bring you more details as we get them. john? >> john: griff jenkins outside the federal courthouse with the latest into that. griff, thank you. ♪ the reaction to last week's approval of a controversial new curriculum for florida public school students is intensifying...
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de oliveira is the head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. trump calls de oliveira and they speak for 24 minutes. that's a lot of time for the former president of the united states to spend on the phone with his head of maintenance. >> it talks specifically the boss wanted the server deleted, talking about the video showing the documents transported which they now have the evidence of. they have this document of detailed war plans against our adversary nations, something in the wrong hands would jeopardize the security of the united states in a way we can't truly fathom. but also this detail about walt nauta was supposed to be traveling with the former president, but then he rushed back to palm beach after having some sort of discussion. it speaks to him perhaps being directed by the former president to go and deal with this issue. i mean this is laid out in a narrative where it's clear-cut and you can see very specifically that the justice department reached out, and at every turn they were looking to cover up. >> i'm going to lay out the ti
de oliveira is the head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. trump calls de oliveira and they speak for 24 minutes. that's a lot of time for the former president of the united states to spend on the phone with his head of maintenance. >> it talks specifically the boss wanted the server deleted, talking about the video showing the documents transported which they now have the evidence of. they have this document of detailed war plans against our adversary nations, something in the wrong hands...
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nauta makes an unscheduled trip to mar-a-lago. he wasn't meant to be there. according to the indictment, he speaks to de oliveira, and they walk together and scope out the locations of the various surveillance cameras and then two days later, de oliveira is in a conversation with a fourth person, described as employee number 4, and he says the infamous words, the boss wnts the server deleted. now, there's no allegation or description in the super supers indictment that anything was delayed. but they received footage from mar-a-lago, people in trump's orbit were worried about de oliveira's loyalty, and they could about it, and there was some assurances made that he would get a lawyer. now he's a codefendant. he's face ago separate false statements charge on his own. this is somebody the government would like to flip. he alone knows the conversations between him and the former president were about this alleged obstruction of justice scheme. >> right. he's the connector really there. before we kind of get into the nitty-gritty with lisa rub in, i want to go to v
nauta makes an unscheduled trip to mar-a-lago. he wasn't meant to be there. according to the indictment, he speaks to de oliveira, and they walk together and scope out the locations of the various surveillance cameras and then two days later, de oliveira is in a conversation with a fourth person, described as employee number 4, and he says the infamous words, the boss wnts the server deleted. now, there's no allegation or description in the super supers indictment that anything was delayed. but...
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that did happen in the mar-a-lago case. we don't know that's happened here.happened and we don't know about it. it's possible he did it by phone call or zoom or some locations that we weren't able to spot it. but both of those things given jack smith's tendencies would signal end game to me. >> let's go to katelyn polantz with content and background. with this investigation, what are aspects of this special counsel investigation into january 6, katelyn? >> you know, there have been so many different aspects here. but when you put them all together, you can see how prosecutors really have been throughout trying to find exactly what donald trump was saying, doing, thinking. the record around him, after the election. and so some of the aspects here that have built this investigation to this point where donald trump gets a target letter from the justice department saying he could be charged with a crime, a federal crime, related to january 6 and the 2020 election, some of that includes prosecutors bringing in his vice president mike pence. not just to talk about
that did happen in the mar-a-lago case. we don't know that's happened here.happened and we don't know about it. it's possible he did it by phone call or zoom or some locations that we weren't able to spot it. but both of those things given jack smith's tendencies would signal end game to me. >> let's go to katelyn polantz with content and background. with this investigation, what are aspects of this special counsel investigation into january 6, katelyn? >> you know, there have been...
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confirms the name after he allegedly discussed surveillance camera footage on donald trump's mar-a-lago property. this new identity as the former president faces new charges. plus the political future of senator mitch mcconnell. what his office is saying today about his freeze this week in front of reporters. >>> and only on cnn. terrorized by the taliban, the desperate plea from afghans now in hiding two years after the chaotic american withdrawal. welcome to "the lead," everyone. i'm in for jake tapper. we start today with our law and justice lead and the chaotic and consequential week for donald trump and his growing legal challenges. as the former president and his lawyers waited to see if he would be charged for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, special counsel jack smith unveiled more charges in a separate case. the one involving the handling of classified documents. trump now faces three more charges including two for allegedly trying to destroy surveillance video footage at mar-a-lago. and his reaction is probably what you'd expect. >> this is harassment. this is electi
confirms the name after he allegedly discussed surveillance camera footage on donald trump's mar-a-lago property. this new identity as the former president faces new charges. plus the political future of senator mitch mcconnell. what his office is saying today about his freeze this week in front of reporters. >>> and only on cnn. terrorized by the taliban, the desperate plea from afghans now in hiding two years after the chaotic american withdrawal. welcome to "the lead,"...
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one of the few things that he has said is that he wants a speedy trial in the mar-a-lago case, and he also wants a speedy trial here before the election, and if he wants that, he has to move quickly. another choice he is making is to allow the former president to really tell the story here, and he did that with the mar-a-lago case, and a lot of the breaking news of the indictments has come from truth social, the former president releasing it himself and really able to tell the story, and that, jack smith could do that by releasing the indictment, but that is a strategic choice, and there is pressure on him to move it along quickly. >> paula, i know this is a third or the second time that we are talking about the special counsel and if and when an indictment does come down, but remind folks that all of this is happening behind the closed door, and closed door proceedings, and how are people going to learn of indictment, and what are people going to see. >> well, that is a great question, because initially, there was a lot of pressure on the special counsel from reporters not to let us
one of the few things that he has said is that he wants a speedy trial in the mar-a-lago case, and he also wants a speedy trial here before the election, and if he wants that, he has to move quickly. another choice he is making is to allow the former president to really tell the story here, and he did that with the mar-a-lago case, and a lot of the breaking news of the indictments has come from truth social, the former president releasing it himself and really able to tell the story, and that,...
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start with mar-a-lago.d for him for 20 years. why are they going after these guys. they just did what the boss said. >> what it looks like to me, they are trying to find someone to flip on trump, in order to do that, they have to charge them. they are reaching here to charge this other person with conspiracy to bring thaem in to some obstruction count. i think ultimately, they have a problem with the search warrant here and i wonder if adding the charges is strategy to defeat any problem with the search warrant. if the search warrant falls, all the charges fall and all doj would be left with are obstruction counts. make sure they have some charge that doesn't rely on the evidence recovered by the search warrant, which i think was overbroad. >> ainsley: the guys worked for them, you feel sorry for them. one started as valet and running the property 20 years laters, probably providing for his family and trying to charge the guys to flip on donald trump. you have president biden on the other side caught with t
start with mar-a-lago.d for him for 20 years. why are they going after these guys. they just did what the boss said. >> what it looks like to me, they are trying to find someone to flip on trump, in order to do that, they have to charge them. they are reaching here to charge this other person with conspiracy to bring thaem in to some obstruction count. i think ultimately, they have a problem with the search warrant here and i wonder if adding the charges is strategy to defeat any problem...