i hope donna supports the langford bill. at would absolution that's favorable. >> you'll have the senate bill before you it looks like. will you vote for the senate bill? >> unlikely. >> i'm prepared to vote for a bipartisan bill. we have enough democrats. we need just a few republicans to get t gernment going. >> bipartisan bill out of the senate and hopefully a bipartisan bill without speaker boehner in the house. >> take a bipartisan vote in the house. >> has to. >> to pass it. >> since we had a bipartisan bill in the first place. >> we committed 186 votes among democrats to pass a clean funding bill and clean debt ceiling. >> you support langford. >> i don't know what that bill is. >> that's a cr -- >> not 120 days. >> 90 days. >> deal with this and not come back and put american people through shock trauma. >> ironically the langford bill is a longer debt ceiling. >> it is. >> what does it to obama care? >> doesn't address it. >> this vote on our -- what's your bet any more government shutdowns this cycle or is this over

i'm not going to sign a discharge petition on the langford bill which is really what is being asked.on being? >> that is out not the clean c.r. and the would be would be we want to resolve this problem, prior to the time you could consider that particular bill, which would be at the very earliest i believe october 14th probably not until the 28th. >> but what if the government's still shut down october 14th? >> i'm going to insist that the speaker try to bring out a clean continuing resolution to the one i said i would support. also i said that -- you know, i believe that representative ron kind and i of wisconsin have represented a reasonable, a reasonable alternative, for many members. let's do the clean c.r. for six months, at the republican number of $986 billion. let's repeal the medical device act and pay for it. ron kind and i have a whole group of democrats and republicans on board with this. the far left is not going to like that proposal because it does make a change to the health care law. the far right is not going to like it because at the end of the day it does not defu

bills. can congress come together to keep the money going before the 17th. joining me is oklahoma congressman langfordsident of the republican policy committee. thank you for being here today. >> thank you, governor. >> there is a lot of controversy over what is going on in washington. and one question who is running the house strategy. the speak oregon ted cruz? and who is running the strategy in the house right now? >> i hate to tell you this, but it is the american people in our directs who are running it. folks who don't want a government shutdown but they don't want also obama care. they are colliding at this moment and they have overwhelming calls coming in my office and find any way to get relief of this process. and the last offer in the senate was straightforward. we want to make sure individuals will not be fined for the next year and members of congress and the white house, all of obama care applies to them. they are not exempt and they have to live under the same law. those two things are out there. >> i agree those are reasonable things. why didn't that get out a couple of three weeksing

langford from oklahoma. i think we'll have more bipartisan support to have little small cr bills., to fund nih, to fund the national parks and other things. >> doug, what is this plan that the democrats are proposing? >> here's what the logic is. as we approach october 17th, which is the debt ceiling, it gets more serious, kelly, because this -- >> it does. >> -- full faith and credit of the united states. rather than dealing with an abstract notion of a government shutdown which does affect 800,000 government workers but most people don't feel it day to day. the debt ceiling could reverberate around the world iw. the republican leader john boehner has made it clear he's going to let there be a vote on this clean cr. i believe there will be 4050, 60 republicans who, for the best reason, political necessity, will sign on with the democrats, who are not going to default, the government will open with a debt ceiling extension. >> the debt ceiling, that is -- i believe they're going to actually, doug, keep the government closed until they have the debt ceiling debate. >> that's what i

bill that will make everybody happy, have at it. go ahead and work at it. that's exactly what's happening right now. >> dana, let me just quickly bring in republican congressman james langford joins us live from capitol hill as well. is obama care, the idea of changing it, of altering it in some way, defunding it, is that off the table now for house republicans? >> what's interesting is that's still on the table for us. that's still an ongoing part of our conversation but it hasn't been a part of this particular conversation in two weeks. that's not been news. the last proposal that we put out as house republicans was to remove penalty for the first year for people that made a mistake or didn't want to sign up for obama care just the individuals. businesses already have had the penalties removed from them by the president. we asked for individuals to get same treatment as businesses did in the first year. and then to apply obama care equally to the white house and to members of congress. and so that's already been there. i know there's been a lot of statements to say we haven't moved. we feel like we have negotiated this. and i would take issue with a couple of things that

langford in the house. i call it no more shutdowns ever. what all it does, it'll fund the government. if you p don't pass appropriation billscurrent levels. if you can't come up with a spending bill within 120 days, drops the funding 1%. it's that kind of fiscal control. that kind of fiscal discipline you have to impose on this dysfunctional place called the federal government. >> how about the debt ceiling? what can we do about it? it seems stupid. it never works and the only reason to use it is to say we're not going to raise it unless you do this and then we end up in the same position. >> well, unfortunately in this place, you need some sort of action forcing moments and the debt ceiling. >> is this ever not going to be raised? what we should be doing, we should be facing reality. we should be actually looking at real information defining the extent of the problem. and what i'm putting forward is the solutions menu. let's start saying, you know, not that i'm proposing this, but what would happen if we start recognizing people aren't dying at 62, they're living -- which is a good thing, to 80. we haven't adjusted that ye

langford says i would like to resolve it this afternoon. tell the republican chairman of the policy committee, urged the majority leader, eric cantor of the state of virginia, 20 -- to put the bill to open the government on the floor, and let's pass this. i want to thank the representative of working people, in this country. government, some are in the private sector. they all want the ability to work and to be paid for their work so that they can serve our economy and our people. thank you for your leadership. >> we want to work. we want to work. >> david, thank you for your leadership. -- thank you for your leadership and your work, and all the representatives. i don't know if the other federal unions are here. but thank you for your leadership. we need to open the government of the people, by the people, for the people. let's do it, ask now and get the government open. >> let them vote. let them vote. let them vote. let them vote now. >> let them vote now. >> one person who believes that is the to vote right now cochair of the progressive caucus, my friend and yours, rowley. take it home. it is an honor to be here with the workers, an honor to be here with my colleagues, and