larry cohen, thanks for joining us tonight. appreciate it. bill that could cut $40 billion out of food stamps. keep it on msnbc for the latest. we'll have more on this story tomorrow. that's "the ed show." i'm ed shultz. "politicsnation" starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good

larry cohen, thanks for joining us tonight. appreciate it. bill that could cut $40 billion out of food stamps. keep it on msnbc for the latest. we'll have more on this story tomorrow. that's "the ed show." i'm ed shultz. "politicsnation" starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and breaking news. republicans are on the verge of taking $40 billion from your our food stamp program. they're about to vote on a bill that would slash the program over the next ten years. 4 million americans will lose benefits next year. we'll have full coverage of the vote and hear from senator bernie sanders ahead. >>> but we begin with tonight's lead. the republican party is at war with itself. and the biggest casualty could be the american people. today tea party senator ted cruz raised the stakes to a dangerous new level. promising a filibuster against obama care in order to advance his far right agenda. >> i will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund obama care. >> filibuster? >> yes.

from larry cohen, who is bill gates' chief of staff.u might have heard bill's a fan." and i'm, like, shaking. i'm like, "yeah, i heard," you know. and he... and he was like, "if you have time, you know, love to fly you up to seattle." and then, i was looking at my calendar right then for the month-- completely blank. and i was like, "yeah, you know, i think i could, you know, fly in, you know, between, like, laundry and a bath." ( laughs ) "and meet with bill." >> gupta: that was just three years ago. today, with the help of more than $35 million in funding, much of it from the gates foundation and google, khan has been able to hire, with competitive salaries, some of the most talented engineers and designers in the country. the khan academy office has the intense vibe of a silicon valley start-up. the team is working to create software they hope will transform how math is taught in american classrooms. >> and once they've done all of these, they really understand proper fractions. >> khan: right, right. >> gupta: last year, we visited

talk about larry sanchez, david cohen who come from the cia and went to the nypd.oard,kelly comes on police commissioner after 9/11, and says, look, we can't rely solely on the federal government. i think smartly said, we can't do business as usual. we need to start developing our own intelligence and have a better sense of what is going on in the city. so the guy he hired to do that is a man named david cohen, who we profile the plea in the book. he made his career at the cia, rose to the level of the deputy director for operations, basically nation's top spy. he retired as the head of the clandestine service. he was basically recruited out of retirement to start what is basically a mini cia at the nypd. his first things, david cohen calls under the cia and says, i need an active-duty guy who can be my right-hand man. george tenet, the director of the cia, since larry sanchez to new york. ,arry is this very likable guy skydiver, scuba diver, a guy's guy. use active duty, so he is a blue cia badge. he can start the early morning at the cia station in new york and g

bringing david cohen in, and then they brought in larry sÁnchez. >> he was the lie jaso liaison. >> he'steaching people out to go out in muslim neighborhoods, and just listen and observe and write down their rhetoric, what people were talking about in the cafes. some of that stuff was what do people say about the state of the union dress? what does the president think abouthink--who do they think abt the president's foreign policy? what do they think about drone attacks. what do we think about america foreign policy. >> even though they went far into the surveillance, in reality this is a city traumatized by 9/11, it was horrific for people who lived there back then and those around the world. wasn't it appropriate to take heavy duty members? would it have been he negligence on the part of ray kelly's part not to? >> oh, without a doubt they needed to double these efforts, quadruple these efforts to ensure there wasn't a terrorist attack. what the book raises are questions about what would this look like? and of course this went on for years until matt and i started peeling back-- >> sta

larry king now right here on r.g.p. question lol. in our green report today most people are aware that a meteor strike near can cohen sixty six million years ago probably led to the death of the dinosaurs but that was not the worst of the extinctions this planet has experienced that distinction goes to the permian mass extinction which happened around two hundred fifty million years ago and in which over ninety five percent of all life on earth died for a good part of the last half of the twentieth century scientists were trying to figure out what caused the permian mass extinction one of those scientists most instrumental in proposing a comprehensive theory that explains that extinction is preferred is professor paul will professor of paleo environments at the school of earth and environment at the university of leeds in the united kingdom professor thanks for joining me. that's ok could you describe for us this the what the permian mass extinction was. pretty much extinction is you know it's not just the greatest crisis the life of the food so it was an event we've sold a lot of around ninety percent of species animals and plants o

cohen's lawyers are working on a counteroffer, but it's expected that the feds will insist on an admission of guilt to be part of any settlement. larryyou. >> mary thompson, thank very much, the big deal today over at the u.n. is whether or not president obama will shake hands with the new president of iran. michelle caruso-cabrera joins us now. michelle, you were there. i'm reading headlines that the new president of iran snubbed president obama. is that true? >> the handshake did not happen larry, and the reason is according to our side of the story, the white house side of the story, it wasn't good enough for the iranians. they wanted a substantive meeting with president obama and the white house had made clear all along that there was not going to be any such high level meeting between the presidents, that if anything was going to happen it was going to be an orchestrated happenstance moment where they happened to pass in a hallway or see each other at a luncheon, maybe a handshake, many a photo and many people within the political world in the united states thought that that was even being generous but the iranians felt it wasn'

former congressman chris carney, professor eliot cohen, lieutenant general retired dave, larry goldsteindmiral gregory johnson, retired general chuck walls. so they are the other members. so without further ado i turn it over to mort. thank you. >> thank you very much. as i was driving here with a driver who wasn't sure where we're going, it reminded me -- thank you. can you hear me? >> there you go spend as i was driving here with a driver who wasn't sure what he was going, it brought to mind the old adage, that when you don't know where you're going, any road will do. still not working. >> get closer to it. >> anyways, there is an old phrase which is when you don't know where you're going, any road will do, and i had that feeling with a driver who was bringing me here, but every now and then i've had that feeling with the way the administration has been conducting itself. let's start off because there is a reference point that seems to me we must now look at, and that was the presence response to the chemical weapons attacks by assad of syria, whether that affects the viability and cre

larry summers at 16%. in general, participants thought summers would be more hawkish than yellen, but their assumptions went further than monetary policy. bernanke and former vice chairman don cohenin ten categories. the overall score, summers finished last behind bernanke, yellen and cohen. political and communication skills, monetary policy expertise, that was a slam dunk, yellen over summers. respect from other international financial officials, ability to manage a financial crisis and banking regulatory expertise. summers was graded higher in only inflation and expertise. it wasn't a knock against summers, the market graded yellen higher than summers. >> financial markets and inflation. those might be the two i'd put at the top of the list. >> to go with the flow and being all about price stability instead of this dual mandate which we see they can try and try and try. going nowhere, fast. >> your point is you would want a fed chair. >> my idol for fed chairman is volcker not -- you know -- and i think we're building up this huge situation we're going to need volcker 2.0, within five years. whatever. >> within five years, that means five years of policy. >> five years of it.

cohen could be a dark horse. those are the names. i'm not privy to the inside discussions. i think ms. yellen is a brilliant economist, and larry summers is a brilliant economist, and i will be honest and say that neither of them are my cup of tea. i say that, it's unpersonal, believe me, they are both very smart economists, much smarter and greater academic credentials. here's my problem. i would like going forward once the federal reserve gets back to normal, you know, poured all the money into the system and flooded markets and expanded the blafns sheet, complicated, but unconventional to say the least. as the fed moves to normalcy, i want rules, some clear, monetary rules that will maintain the value of the dollar, that will take a market oriented position regarding interest rates, not a fed controlled interest rate, but a market oriented position regarding interest rates, and, of course, keep inflation rates low. to me, something like the tailor rule named after john taylor, former treasury official and distinguished professor at stanford university, down through the years, we've had gold and commodity rules regarding the

larry summers is a really good man. he's highly regarded and able. i don't -- you know, if janet outstanding, john cohen, outstanding.e have good candidates. this is a very good decision president obama has got to make. i've always argued that president bush made some important decisions. i think that picking ben bernanke was a good one and a very important one. and i think this one is important and one of the things that really bothers me about washington is sometimes people disagree with you on policy they go after you then on all kind of other issues and personalize it and so on. >> one of the most distressing things about this -- i'm very critical of the fed. what you see is the bankers and the investment people. the fed has been under very unfair us all. people come planning when the fed sweatband with de swap to help europe from avoiding disaster and the role of what's happened is some on the left but even more on the right have now turned on the fed and i think the failure of the finance committee which knows better than to defend the fed against the irresponsible attacks on the institution is very, very disco