larry hogan, thanks. >> dana: off diety pilot in jail on 83 counts of attempted murder.a airlines pilot was riding in a cockpit yesterday when he allegedly tried to shutoff the plane's engine mid flight. unbelievable story and william is live from los angeles with more. high, william. >> dana, why and why not from a full-time pilot and full flight, 79 passengers and four crew fortunate enough to be alive after the pilot crashed a jet by culling fuel to the engines and horizon air flight leaving everett washington near seattle sunday for san francisco. the incident occurred about an hour into the flight forcing emergency landing in portland where this morning 44-year-old joseph emerson faces 167 criminal charges including 83 of attempted murder. he was headed home and sitting in the jump seat behind the pilot and co-pilot and he reached up and cut fuel to the engined by hitting the control panel and the pilots intervened and subdued emerson and restored fuel flow before the engines cut out. >> fortunately the crew acted quickly and were able to get the engines restarted a

joining us now, former maryland governor larry hogan.ard president claudine gay, hogan wrote, he helps his resignation may help spur meaningful action to address anti-semitism and restore the values that harvard should represent to the world. governor, thanks for joining us. we were having a discussion about this, and i was once again kind of shocked by the nuance that we hear from people in discussing this issue. it is because there's no absolutes left in the world, because if this isn't an absolute, what is an absolute, if this situation and how you react to it is not? >> well, yes, i think it is an absolute, when you have -- this was the day of the attacks by the terrorists, where they were beheading babies and killing and raping innocent women and elderly people, and to not come out and forcefully say that this was wrong, and to celebrate and congratulate and cheer for the terrorists acts, i think it was pretty outrageous. and of course, we do have free speech, and the students have the right to that speech, but they don't have the r

larry hogan is with us, the former maryland governor, what he makes of this. what do you think, governor? >> well, it's kind of a mess, right? it's a train wreck. >> neil: might be an understatement. i don't know how the vote will come out. it's very, very close. it's not looking great. i think we're going to see shortly how it turns out. i think it's a sad day. i think matt gaetz is a disgrace that has done more to damage the republican party with his actions today than any democrat ever could. i think it proves that washington is hopelessly divided and broken. that's why people are so frustrated with congress and both parties. it's proving, showing that we can't lead. in the middle of an election year, to -- they already have 15% approval of congress, this will hurt our chances to keep the house and elect republicans in november. >> neil: i remember talking to you about the mid-terms. what you noted was the close terms. you were not expecting a red wave. you were concerned about this. this has come back to haunt republicans, the narrow nature of this. >> i r

joining us now, former maryland governor larry hogan.reat to be here. >> if we spent all our time talking about shutdowns, i guess we sort of missed the bigger point, and that is the environment that we find ourselves in right now. what did you make of the solution that speaker mccarthy came one, and what does it mean for his future as speaker do you think? >> i was really pleased that speaker mccarthy actually showed some leadership and worked hard to try to avoid the government shutdown and worked across the aisle with democrats in both the house and the senate. you know, these kind of handful of renegade republicans led by matt gaetz, we're really trying to, you know, drive the car off the road, and it's not great for the republican party or for the country. i mean, this is something that happens seemingly over and over and over again, republicans and democrats can't get their act together, but they're threatening to get rid of him if he works with kdemocrats it's ludicrous. 70% majority of democrats in both houses, we balance the bud

three, larry hogan. and if the democrats partner up with some of the republicans, like they did on the c.r., then they get a certain number of vetoes or appointments as chairs as well as creation of some off the wall committees and get to have a point of privilege to bring some bills up for floor votes. host: all right. robin with some ideas there. how they can move forward in the house. julie who writes for axios is tweeting out right now, a source familiar says jordan's team is trying to do damage control after liking the scalise meeting. which backfired with scalise loyalists. seven republicans inhat first round of voting voted for steve scalise. after the first round of voting, it was reported that jim jordan went to seek help from steve scalise to whip the vote and it was leaked out by whoever that scalise was not going to help jim jordan's team. now you can see that reporting happening on capitol hill. we're also taking your text messages tonight. you can send us your text message, include your fir

getting back to the republicans, i mentioned larry hogan. he declined to run for president. but when he was governor was one of the most popular governors in the u.s.. he seems like a reasonable republican, someone who would be a republican star in any other era. what does it say to you that he is not running, there are several other moderate republicans, asa hutchinson, that this party cannot accommodate anyone like that on the national stage? mr. gergen: if the republican party cannot turn around and deal seriously with adult like effort to deal with these indictments, and the message we will be sending to young people, if you get indicted for times, it does not matter. we don't care. if that is our view, the republican party is going to be finished over time. if our view is let's put this back together, let's try it, we will see. i do think it depends on public opinion. we tend to get the presidents we deserve. if we have a shoddy expectations for the president, we have shoddy presidents. this is a moment when the republican party, i do not recognize it. but i do believe

neil: larry hogan is not the only guy who wanted to help harvard, decided to skip it when he saw thed praising the palestinians and hamas particularly and condemning israel in the upside down world, joined by mitt romney am a harvard grad who has quite a bit of money for the school, he too would withdraw financial support. enter jacobson, boston college law student, and independent women's form and georgetown university at law school. they were kind enough to join us, this bashing of his real, welcome to both of you. how does it happen? your views are distinct at both schools. the protest we do here about. why are you in that camp? >> we are not surprised by the statements. the orthodoxy in a lot of ways, it is important to note, most are performative. they reflect intellectual laziness than support for terrorism. misapplied academic theory, and they reveal the gravity of their stance in academia, that can lead to anti-semitism. neil: is it scary for georgetown, they have a different view of this. >> students at georgetown and other schools are very concerned and that has made it mor

for unfolding vivek ramaswamy, infiltration conflict the former republican governor of maryland, larry hogantting ties with university. dropping participation in two harvard fellowship programs this fall. >> a very weak response and i do believe students have a right to free speech but the university doesn't need to report and actively help promote this violent extreme hate speech. >> present brutally put out a statement saying student groups don't speak for harvard and a recent event, the report shows she looks to reassure thing i condemn anti-semitism in all forms no place at harvard. >> you are always terrific, joining us now, gop strategist portal. first sit tight, we want your reaction to this, former secretary of state hillary clinton heckled columbia university, basically what you will see, this is not somebody haggling her for being into israel, it doesn't seem like anti-semitic, he talking about something else, watch this president joe biden : $100 billion of funding for israel, taiwan and ukraine and pretend like we will have world war iii and just let -- >> i'm sorry, this is not

go to republican governor, former governor of maryland, the national co-chair of the no labels, larry hogan is here with us. i mean, we had a lot of things we want to talk to you about. but given this breaking news, this is a party you've been a member of for a long time. what do you make of what's happening on capitol hill? >> well, it's showing that it's nothing but devisiveness and dysfunction in washington. and i think the average person is just, kind of, disgusted by it. and i think matt gaetz is a poster child for everything that's wrong with washington and why they have a 15% approval rating for congress. i don't think the average person is really following the palace intrigue as much as we are about who's going to be the speaker. but they are pretty frustrated that we're not talking about the economy, that we're not coming together to get things done. i think instead of focusing on things like the economy, which republicans should be doing, voters approve of republicans on the economy by 20 points over democrats. we're not talking about. we're following trump trials and fights over

democratic senator joe manchin from west virginia, the former governor, republican governor of maryland, larry hoganknow. >> martha: do you see either one of those people generating a significant following? >> sandra: no. the issue is that trump and biden are two historically unpopular leaders of their party. joe biden has massive problems with independents and democrats and trump has huge problems, he brings out a lot of democrats. so that is the gap. that's the opening. that's where i -- 2024 will be such a year of unbelievable uncertainty. >> martha: yeah. i completely agree with you. i think anyone thinks this is set may be in for a big surprise. i'm not sure what that catalyst will be. i think you're absolutely right, that we should all be alert to see how it shakes out. a majority of people don't want biden or trump based on the polling. we'll see where it goes. thanks, ari. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: podcaster joe rogan expressing some displeasure with the valuation of trump's mar-a-largo megahome. it's also a club. and the $250 million fraud case against the former president. listen to th

that is a little too late for larry hogan, the former maryland republican governor, a lot of anti-israel protests going on at the same time prompted him to ditch a harvard university fellow shift after a student letter there blamed israel for the hamas terror attack. governor, very good to have you. you still feel that way? >> well, look, neil, i -- this was a difficult decision for me. i was liking forward to doing two fellowships at harvard university, one in the school of public health&one in the kennedy exclusive. i was going to talk about how we lower the angry temperature and the divisive politics. i wanted to directly address it. but this was such a strong statement, the day of the attacks, there were 30 different groups at harvard that came out praising the terrorists that murdered innocent people, the largest death of jewish citizens since the holocaust. it wasn't about the biggest debate. it was about the attacks which were evil and grotesque. i thought it was time for people to stand up and make a strong statement i'm not alone. people have been doing that across the country.

anybody from joe manchin, larry hogan, you hear names. joe lieberman is part of this thing.becomes. there is an internal battle. it is a fragile coalition let's say. if you're thinking about going no labels in the future i'm telling you this thing might not get off the ground because what happened at 7:00 during that call. it is a fragile coalition. i want to switch gears to blackrock. interesting. i was at a semifor conference the other night with my producer ellie. we have listened to some of the speakers. one speaker was interesting. semifors is new publication, covers a lot of finance and public politics, started by ben smith, long-time journalist used to run "buzzfeed" at "new york times." at semifor, gary cohn, former number two, worked with trump at the nec. one that caught my eye is mark weed man. the guy head of client relations, head of client for blackrock the big money management firm. a likely, i shouldn't say likely, possible successor to larry fink when he retires, if he retires. you never know, larry is 70 and still going strong. they asked him about esg. you

said to candidates and joe joe biden, the democrat, donald trump, the republican, joe manchin and larry hoganno labels and cornel west. trump would be a betting favorite. yes. if i told you i would give you even money, you would not take that bet. all right. and so somebody better wake the up. oh, boy. one how worried are you? you know, i think it definitely changed the dynamic. but the point is that just as you heard from carville, i think there are a lot of democrats who understand the threat and understand what has taken place before with ralph nader. as you mentioned in your interview with joe manchin, he came back and mentioned ross perot. but the fact is, here in 2024 next year, it'll really be something that weighs against joe biden, the incumbent. and i think lots of democrats would be energized by that dynamic. nick, i mean, and also, you know, given what we saw this week, given what's going on with kevin mccarthy, you got to say, you know, there's like 12 republic sessions, maybe two dozen republicans who delight in chaos and breaking apart the us government so it can't pay taxes an

i would propose larry hogan.e is used to working across the line and he would bring sense back into the republican party. we need people like him instead of jim jordan but i would say no to him. and no to anyone else there now bang because they done spoiled the pot and once it is sour you cannot un-sour it. host: that is trudy. larry hogan former governor of maryland, south carolina is next, independent line. caller: how are you? host: fine, go ahead. caller: i want to make two comments to the democrats and then i want to make a comment about the israeli situation. let's not forget what nancy pelosi, the iron lady of congress, said how many years ago about we must pass this bill before we know what is in it. so you will pass a bill with 9000 pages you don't know what is in at but the republicans are so stupid? let's not forget what harry reid to dashed into the senate by blowing it up with 60 votes. so all you democrats out there that think you are smart and that you know all this and jim jordan is so terrible, n

larry: all right. alex hogan, thanks very much.o, folks, as all these reports suggest, israel rapidly expanding its ground operations, the airstrikes are intensifying. while all this is happening, president biden's mouthpiece, john kirby, went on "the view," which is a kind of hare-brained, far-left tv show on another network, thankfully, and he said this. listen and weep. >> we don't seek a conflict with iran. we're not looking to escalate into some sort of period of hostilities here with iran. larry: there is already a conflict with iran. this is the most unimaginably dumb thing that any white house spokesman could possibly say. mr. kirby and his boss, president biden, i have breaking news for you. iran is at war with the united states. as well as israel. if has been for quite some time, by the way. the very fact that iran financed ask planned the barbaric hamas invasion of israel is the most important evidence of their war-like intentions against the u.s. and, of course, against israel. the very fact that iran is the largest sta

former maryland governor larry hogan is withdrawing from harvard fellowships following the university'sogan sent a letter to harvard's president yesterday writing that he cannot condone the dangerous anti-semitism that has taken root on the campus. the university's president has been heavily criticized for failing to call the attacks terrorism in her initial public statement. it came after several student organizations signed a letter blaming israel's government for the violence. and up next, we'll hear from one of the two hostages released by hamas yesterday as she shares details of her captivity. >>> plus, in just over an hour, house republicans will vote again for who will be the party's next speaker nominee. it comes three weeks to the day of there being no leader for the lower chamber of congress. we're back in two minutes. verzenio reduces the risk of recurrence of hr-positive, her2-negative, node-positive, early breast cancer with a high chance of returning, as determined by your doctor when added to hormone therapy. hormone therapy works outside the cell... while verzenio works