>> reporter: let me play larry kudlow since he's gone in for the speech.ot my normal role, but in what austan said moments ago, donald trump has revised his tax plan. the original tax plan was scored by the tax foundation as adding $10 trillion to the deficit after economic growth. the new plan which they say will get down to about $3 trillion over ten years, $300 million a year, has a different set of rates. they take the top rate down only to 33% matching what paul ryan and house republicans have proposed, not to 25% as he proposed in usually. -- initially. >> john, as you know in there, if you don't take the dynamic magic bean stalk beans instead of $10 trillion it's $9 trillion. you only get to $3 trillion by having two-thirds of it be paid for by tax cuts paying for themselves. >> i'll take your world for it, but the tax foundation is scoring the house plan says that the $2.4 trillion is on a static basis. so you may have run the numbers differently than the tax foundation has. >> also, i'm wondering as we anticipate trump any moment now, what ground

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. >>> with us now is larry kudlow, economic adviser to donald trump's campaign and the co-author of thek, "jfk and the reagan revolution: a secret history of american prosperity." welcome, larry. i wish ias there with you, because you are always a delight. >> thank you. >> my question is, you basically argue that jf kennedy, who was basically a tax cutter, you're arguing he was a supply-sider. explain. >> during the eisenhower years, the economy didn't grow. look at the numbers, three recessions. so kennedy ran on 3% growth but didn't tell you how he ran on the campaign beat nixon. he believed as president, if he didn't get 5% growth, he wouldn't be re-elected. initially they tried some old-fashioned government spending. did not work, economy got worse. and a republican -- this is the key. a republican in his cabinet named douglas dylan was treasury secretary, and dylan basically talked him into lowering marginal tax rates across the board. high-end, middle end, low end, corporations, you name it. and what they got, they went from 91%, which was outrageous, to 70%. and guess what, it wo

let's bring in larry kudlow. some political strategists say the rise of trump in the polls is due to the speech last week outlining his economic policy. what part of the economic policy do you think is resonating with americans? is it cutting the corporate tax rate or renegotiating nafta? >> i think it is the whole picture. i think steve hit the nail on the head. trump gave very good speech to new york economics club. by the way, hate to tout my own book, but john kennedy gave his speech at the new york economics club in december 1962. >> do you have a book? >> i don't have a book. i should. >> you have a book. >> the book is out there, folks, please buy it. enough of that. detroit and new york, very strong thematic message speech. tax cuts, particularly by the way, middle class tax cuts, rolling back regulations, which really helps small businesses. and growth. basic message is growth and jobs and wages. and it is starting to hit. he's done a good sober job on this. he's put out a lot of -- >> can i add a third

>> i think looking behind trump you saw larry kudlow, former cnbc host, and you see around trump also lot of supply side economists and steve moore is another person who advised his economic speech. but trump at his instinct, his real position is more populist economics. he's okay, it seems, with infrastructure spending. when you talk to people on capitol hill, they say he's the kind of person who could maybe make a deal on taxes or would be willing on entitlement reform to think a little bit out of the paul ryan box, jack kemp, larry kudlow box. >> but it was close to a pure supply side speech. >> because they're writing the speech. >> and the idea that simply cutting taxes will create so much growth -- >> it is a classic center right with a sprinkle of populism. it checks the box he needs to checks. this unites economic conservatives. he needs to win the election. democrats don't like it and they see holes in it in terms of both its priorities and its plausibility -- >> putting politics aside, was it a good speech? >> the policies he's proposing have some problems with it if you don

. ♪ john: with us now is larry kudlow, economic advisor to donald trump's campaign and co-haw authorw book "j.f.k. and the reagan revolution." thank you for being here. my question for you is this you basically argue that john f. kennedy, who we know was a tax cutter and a supply cider. please explain? >> during the eisenhower years the economy didn't hardly grow. notions of prosperity under ike is not true. three recessions. kennedy ran a 5% growth but he didn't tell you how. he ran it in the campaign, beatniksen. he believed as president if he didn't get 5% growth he wouldn't be re-elected. initially the economy got worse nd a republican in his cabinet named douglas dylan was treasury secretary and he talked him into lowering marginal tax rates across the board. high end, low end, corporations, you name it. they wentz from 91%, which was outrages to 70% and guess what, it worked. to connect the dots, john, 20 years later as a young deputy in o.m.b., ronald reagan followed the same policies as john f. kennedy. john: here's my question about that. he certainly cut taxes across the bo

i am larry kudlow and i'm a local and actually, when penguin and random house started organizing -- which one? that works. this one doesn't sound great but will do what we can. penguin and random house said a while ago when we finally got this thing written and published, it's good good to have a couple local bookstores. i said aha, how about across the street. great idea. we've done tons and tons of media and people have been wonderful to us around the country. we had a lovely op-ed piece published in the wall street journal. this is my co-author and great friend brian. brian, by the way is either the cheerleader of the head of the. >> senior associate and longtime friend of mine. his prior book was all about the classic revival going on and he is a harvard trained historian, in fact as i have said his history auger fee is really the glue that held the entire book together. what i want to do is just read a few excerpts from this thing get a feel for it and he will then speak on whatever he wishes to speak about. then we will enjoy some wine, cheese, whatever is out there. >> i want to ju

. ♪ john: with us now is larry kudlow, economic advisor to donald trump's campaign and co-haw author k "j.f.k. and the reagan revolution." larry, thank you for being here. i wish i was here with you, because you are always a delight. my question for you is this. you basically argue that john f. kennedy, who we know was a tax cutter and a supply sider. please explain? >> during the eisenhower years the economy didn't hardly grow. notions of prosperity under ike is not true. three recessions. kennedy ran a 5% growth, but he didn't tell you how. he ran it in the campaign, beat nixon. he believed, as president, if he didn't get 5% growth he wouldn't be re-elected. initially they tried old-fashioned government spending. it did not work, and the government got worse. -- and the economy got worse. and a republican in his cabinet named douglas dylan was treasury secretary, and dylan basically talked him into lowering marginal tax rates across the board. high end, low end, corporations, you name it. what they got was they went from 91%, which was outrageous, to 70% and guess what, it worked. i

larry kudlow, thank you. >> we love having you, larry.oe," democrats have plenty of faith in tim kaine. >> he is a wonderfully prepared person to be the vice president and to be the president if that ever became necessary. >> come on. don't do that. >> that was sort of like -- >> that was not good. >> you know what. >> listen, you can have ung eun festus' office when he dies. >> that was former ohio governor and possible senator ted strickland. are democrat s concerned about hillary clinton's health. kristen welker joins us ahead after this. ♪ americans are buying more and more of everything online. and so many businesses rely on the united states postal service to get it there. because when you ship with us, your business becomes our business. that's why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. the united states postal service. priority: you ♪ guyhey nicole, happening here? this is my new alert system for whenever anything happens in the market. kid's a natural. but thinkorswim already lets you create c

the senior contributor and informal adviser to the trump campaign, larry kudlow is author to jfk andrevolution. casey hunt is back here joining me. the donald trump we showed you there, are we going to see that donald trump tonight? >> i don't think so. but i don't know. trump is a smart guy. that's why he is where nobody thought he would be. you are asking me to gauge his debate before the debates and i don't have that answer. i know that people may under estimate him and expect weird things and people can run around talking about it and i think he will disappoint and he will be more disciplined than folks think and may even have humor. zone if mrs. clinton has humor. does she? >> the preparation is what we are hearing. almost like a predebate spin standpoint. they love the idea that hillary clinton is working overtime and sweating this one and doing all the debate prep. donald trump is just yeah, i will see what happens and trust my instincts. is that what's going on or more happening behind the scenes? >> there is a lot more happening with respect to mr. trump. she boning up and w

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so, yeah, it's true i'm larry cud low and i'm a local -- kudlow and i'm a local. when penguin and random house started organizing this thing -- which one? that works? this one doesn't sound great but we'll do what we can. penguin and random house said, a while back when we got this thing written and published, it's good to have a couple of local book stores itch -- i said. ah-ha, across the street. it's a terrific idea. we have done tons and tons of media. people have been wonderful to us. lovely oped piece in today's "wall street journal." this miss co-author and great find, brian domitrovic. he is a cure cowerrer to and he head of the laffer -- >> serb associate. >> of the laffer center and long-time friend of mine. his prior book was all about the classical supply side revival going on and he is a harvard trained historian. in fact as i've said before, his historiography is the glue that held this book tolling. why want to doest just read a few experts and brian will then speak of whatever he wishes to speak about and then we'll enjoy some wine, cheese, whateve

terms of economic empowerment, donald trump is being guided by some of our best minds on this, larry kudlow, steve moore, art laffer. these are professionals who understand exactly what we need to do in terms of taxation, regulatory relief, tax reform and tax relief. so donald trump should study up on that. i couldn't agree more with dennis. he definitely should get a good night's sleep before this debate. hillary clinton, as you know, tends to get lost in the weeds. she doesn't give the big vision because frankly she can't give a big vision for economic empowerment because what she is proposing will hold us down, it will represent more of the same misguided poal sees that have misdirected working capital and kept americans out of jobs and out of the booming economy that we need. donald trump has the better case to make, and i trust he will. >> congressman kucinich, let's talk about body language for a emt mo. it can be a big factor in a debate -- >> what makes you say that? >> richard nixon found out the hard way because he was sweating on air during his debate with john kennedy. how impor

. >> larry kudlow will check in with steve moore. this is kennedy and maybe with the exception of trade, right? >> i think with trade, remember, ronald reagan put those temporary tariffs on harley davidson, george bush put tariffs on the steel imports coming in from china. we have put tariffs on countries you've got the supreme court, need i say more, health care, energy independence, education for the state. >> obamacare, gone. >> right. have to do it. >> i think people sometimes -- and we fall into this, have a hard time -- >> losing? >> lost or wrong or feel wounded and he has 88% of republicans supporting him now. and a state that romney lost handedly and born in ohio, we haven't seen a republican lose florida in ohio within the trend is up. nate silver's poll has him at 48 chance winning. >> it was at 31. >> it changes every day. >> he does not have a strong debate performance and starts being distracted by side issues and it's a nice trajectory but has to build on it. don't get overconfident or cocky and continue to listen to t

he has so many issue advantages. >> larry kudlow. >> under four minutes. >> that's a miracle.n. >> i'm sorry. i had a credentials mess. i was late. >> tyler, back to you. >> thanks, guys. what do clinton and trump need to do tonight to boost their brand and likability? carter murray is ceo of fcb worldwide, part of inner public group and dan crutchfield. two british gentlemen talking about america. this is like the beginning of a joke. two british guys walk in a bar, talk about american politics. carter, it seems to me that one thing is this. mr. trump has created an emotional connection with the ehecht r electora electorate, with his supporters. mrs. clinton has not. do you agree with that? if so, why? >> it is a great question because when you think about this from a perspective, brands with purpose, we know win. we know that there was a future brands study that came out that reinforced that too. whatever you think of donald trump, positive or negative, he's built a brand with purpose. he's gone up against the establishment and he's decided that he believes in a better ameri

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. >> look, he's got people -- i have to believe, being an economic speech, somebody like larry kudlow was involved with this, who worked for ronald reagan. i have to believe that steve moore, conservative now with the heritage foundation and used to be with the "wall street journal," were advising on this. i want to say something about the political impact of this. you look at a state like pennsylvania which is is up for grabs. at a rally the other day in pennsylvania, he introduced this woman who had lost her job because the company took off for mexico from pennsylvania. i talked to the president of the pennsylvania manufacturers association who tells me that one of the biggest of their concerns is chinese military hacking western pennsylvania companies to get their data. meaning they're not trustworthy on trade deals. so when you listen to this and you translate it back to getting votes, which is what he's going to do, this kind of speech is very helpful. >> kind of to jeffrey's point, do the details matter? i mean, yes, as we talk about details of lots of things, tax returns, medic

our own larry kudlow points to a potential 5% growth with this kind of bold economic plan. it's an opportunity for donald trump to put hillary clinton on her heels, which is most economists say if you look at what she's proposing, it's essentially status quo, it's more of what we've seen, which has been weak economic growth in this country. it's an opportunity for him to really speak to his weakness, which is to say i do have command of economic policy and policy generally, and i have a plan that's going to put people to work. it's not an understatement to say this is a very big night for donald trump. >> john, the way sarah puts it, makes you wonder who exactly is playing defense tonight. do you have a call on that? >> well, i think both are playing defense in very significant ways. i think sarah's right, the debate format is wide open, so both candidates will have ample opportunity to outline their different policy prescriptions, but i think in each answer you'll see a policy answer followed by a personal attack on one of the many vulnerabilities that both candidates have

i mean, from what i have heard from larry kudlow -- >> only that week? >> yeah.s when i expect it. i really expected in that final week because that's when we're looking for assage and snowden and putin to hit with all the emails and all the rest that they've alleged that they have. not putin, of course, but everybody has been throwing his name out there, so i threw it out there. if you have got assange with a major dump here, judge, just ahead of the election -- >> i thought you were at mast row's with vladimir. >> that was the ukraine president, and that was over at spark's on tuesday. anyway, yeah, i think this is going to be just a big spike in volatility in those final five days leading to the election. >> what's going on? >> no, serious -- i don't want to do that. >> here's the -- i think the debate -- they're going to be entertaining. i don't think they're going to do much. i think it's going to be driven by the polls. as soon as one moves -- then i think you'll see the markets react. in terms of without siding with either one, clearly i think the markets

david: it not only complicates, his group of advisors, many like steve moore and larry kudlow and steve forbes are classical free market economists and donald trump isn't that kind of an economic planner. >> no, but i think kristin hit the nail on the head. this is really, he has found a message that resonates with voters. i think even hillary clinton's team would say this is change election and people want something different. he was able, same way that bernie sanders was able, has been able to tap into that resentment of people sort of feeling like the government and corporations, you know are against them. as conservative, i don't want to see our nominee hit companies over the head but instead for leaving america but instead we should look how we incentivize, whether corporate tax rate, incentivize them to stay instead of punishing them from leaving. david: lowering the corporate tax rate from close to 40% down to 15. it would be a huge cut. melissa? melissa: first for congress, the house and senate voting to overturn president obama's veto of the 9/11 lawsuit bill. what this means f

also, larry kudlow with his new book on what today's candidates can learn. >> kudlow, wow.t, there's more. >> oh, there's more. >>oe conason, a new book on bill clinton. >> that's more than one man can take. tats it. i'm done. >> that's beer and that's egg in the beer. right? but wait. wait, if you dvr "morning joe" right now, in the next 15 minutes, you'll get to see tomorrow, the "new york times" maureen dowd with her new book titled "the year of voting dangerously, the derangeable of politics" and vicente fox. >> is this a six-hour version of "morning joe" or the normal three-hour version? >> we're going to compress it. we're going to compress six hours of sugar into a three-hour pack. but the former president, who is no fan of donald trump, will be here. and that's just a dash of what you're going to have tomorrow morning. but still ahead this morning -- >> is he going to be on the show, too? >> i hope so. >> if you put barnicle in there. >> they go to central park and you don't know what happens. seriously, don't know what's going to happen. >> ask him about aleppo and

. >> let's now bring in cnbc contributors jared bernstein and larry kudlow. senior fellow on the budget and policy, larry of course informal advisor to donald trump and author of this new book. a lot to get into. larry, do you agree with donald trump's assertion this is a false economy? >> i think he's got a point. i wouldn't say it's 100% false economy. i think he's got a point though because, look, federal reserve said this artificial stimulus and they've kept rates low. by the way, none of it's worked. by the way, i wouldn't raise rates now. there's no inflation. they should have raised them in 2011 when there was inflation. maybe 2014. but, look, there were some -- american business produced a lot of profits. give them credit for that. they did what they had to do coming out of a dreadful recession. got to give them credit for that. the profits now are falling, so that thing is in reverse. in fact, i think we're in a business recession right now, which could take its toll. but, yeah, there's been a lot of artificial stuff going on here for many years. the

. >> and that is where we find larry kudlow, unofficial trump adviser and author of the new book jfk the revolution. what moment is kind of changing the mood and changing the outcome here? >> you know, that's a really hard question. if you want to go way back which i would like to do, back to 1984, ronald reagan bungled the first debate and everybody was talking about his age and he lost it and he was no good anymore. right near soon into that debate he said i will not make an issue of my opponent's relative youth and inexperience. mondale is about 20 years younger or something like that. the whole place roared including mondale. that ended it right there. >> you know what is missing in this campaign is that thing right there is self-reproication. you don't get that from either candidate. >> you don't hear much self-deprecation. i don't hear much humor. it will be interesting to see if anybody has that tonight. there is plenty of room for self-deprecation in this campaign. but i don't know. >> what are you expecting? what is the campaign saying? you are out there. what is your sense

. >> if he gets elected, and i think steven moore and larry kudlow and free market types are part of his economic time. neil: but there's always somebody who ruins it for everybody. whether this guy is -- i don't know. >> remember, there's always going to be bad guys. neil: absolutely. >>t you don't want is a systemic failure of a bank to cause an -- listen, if bear stearns just imploded, okay, and lehman brothers, we wouldn't have had the financial crisis. it would have been a blip. but the financial crisis affected everybody, and i think what we have here is the problem is that banks are so big that systemically it's very hard to -- neil: what i worry about though, charlie, and i want to bring in gary b. smith to this argument, and maybe you can help me with this, is that there are a lot of obnoxious banking tendencies that are coming to light here in the case of wells fargo, and i don't know if i'm all that keen on congress making things right or coming down hard on all banks right now, even policing key members' pay, looking at transactions. i mean, this gets to be -- in other wo

trump would say, and his supporters including larry kudlow yesterday on our air said, why would the fede considering raising interest rates? >> i think, you know if you look at the dual mandate of the fed, unemployment is where it wants to be. i think if you strip out energy, you know, inflation over the last two years is closer to where they want it to be than topline would indicate. there is an argument to be made that they could raise. i don't think that it is really there for them. i don't expect them to go today. but i think -- >> does politics enter into their decision in any meaningful way in. >> they're not blind to political pressures and i think they understand that we have an election six weeks from now. i think that in reality if they want to go, if the data -- >> if there is a little pit of uncertainty, some dissension in the room, they probably will. >> trevor, thanks. appreciate you being with us. >> pleasure. >> trevor hanger with height securities. >>> will they or won't they raise rates again? 40 minutes now to the latest fed decision on rates. a lot of drama in the ma

you can tell larry kudlow has taken a deep rat when he started to speak and you could see their wheels they are free traders and they're his economic team. neil: reaching out to average folks. >> everybody i talk to insert the campaign thinks the trade stuff is pure rhetoric. they think is full of you know what. he uses that as a wedge issue in the battleground states like pennsylvania, michigan, where there's high percentage of blue-collar people who he thinks really believe straight is the root with your group but are not. i don't think now because detroit's demise for chumps at one point. it's absurd. but it will say this. it's the bargain that the conservative supply-siders are making within. they will take his trade stuff which they know is absurd. they will say he doesn't need it inside the tent and they'll say look at all this other stuff that he doing which is recognized to the max. truth to if you can help me with some of the numbers here because depending how you score this, the only way you can get the deficit to drive, the only way you pay for a lot of stuff is growth. you

>> steve moore and larry kudlow, don't think they ever listened. maria: they had a big fundraiser, they raised $18 million yesterday alone. dagen: in again -- his surrogate and his advisers makes so much sense but is he going to take the advice? >> this is where you use james carville's phrase it is the economy, stupid. that of all people care about,.com output, employment, not what i you where or what you say. you knew all the time 15% corporate tax would do enormous good repealing obamacare. how fantastic is that and then you get rid of those executive orders that pile regulation on regulation and cut personal tax rates and sit back and the economy will cure itself. it will happen. >> two think hillary clinton said, her husband's economic policy, clinton's 90s policy in regulating wall street and cutting capital gains, bring free trade agreement, did she almost confiscate her own modern-day more socialist liberal economic policy, number 2, called a trumped up trickle-down, your theory is getting a bad rap. >> it has gotten a bad rap. i supported

. >> i haven't talked to hinl who he would like how about somebody like steve forbes or larry kudlowump what i believe i think donald trump believes as well we need much more rules based monetary policy not based on on discretion of a few people but basically very signal to markets when we are going to ray of rates when going to cut them i not not going to make your job interesting can't inspect slaughter what fed is going to do all the time. >> but anyway i do think that there will be a new fed chairman, if -- if donald trump is elected president. and, by the way,, on issue we were just talking about you know donald trump has a very pro production policy where we can within five years wufrlts one of the reasons he is going to talk about make united states of america totally energy independent first time half a century every president says refreshard nixon promised that we can actually get that done with amazing new technologies we have in drilling. >> big part of the story, mike baker. >> steve good morning. i've got three little kids so i think that i know the day care is extremely

businesses, i mean, many people maya at this point think near-term we worry about social security, even larry kudlow. even near-term, we try to get out of this muck, 1.75 gdp growth and worry about entitlements down the road. we have to cut corporate taxes. we got to. so we don't blow out the deficit under hillary clinton. we have another that sounds like more of the same for the next four, eight years which nobody wants at this point. i've heard the supply side, trickle down is bad. the on thing that gets us going is the private sector. adding ---iving the government more money to blow from both corporations and high net worth individuals is not the way to go. >> what is frustrating is what we clearly need is a comprehensive economic plan that deals with a lot of different parts of the economy. we need a plan to grow the economy. we need a plan to deal with how that growth is shared. income inequality and we need a plan for fiscal sustainability. none of them work in isolation yet the candidates and political parties compartmentalize it. >> we talk about 5 trillion, austin powers, what is 5 trillio

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