tom: always with the blue ribbon and emergency services in john's -- in johns hopkins, lauren sauer joins pandemic. i want to look at the houston methodist, the acclaimed houston methodist where they said if you are not vaccinated, you are not working here. i don't have the exact number, think it was 150 people who were shown the door. morgan stanley has said if you are not vaccinated, you are not walking in the door. is that where we are heading? lauren: i think that is where we are heading. a lot of places will wait to get that final fda approval for one or more of the vaccines but the second we see that, we are going to see a lot more companies, a lot more private institutions going that way for sure. jonathan: on the delton varian -- on the delta variant, from the data you have seen, we have broken that link between cases, hospitalizations and deaths. lauren: yes, as long as we continue to push forward with vaccination efforts. the challenge of the delta variant is it easily seems to be taking advantage of places where vaccination rates are low, and that is where we see that link cont