host: we're looking at efforts put into effect under lbj. if you have questions for them ere's how you can call in. first up is calvin from north carolina. caller: good morning. thank you and the rest of the c-span crew for the really great job you do to keep us informed. two questions. one, as the gentleman articulated, lbj started this initiative. democratic president with i'm not sure whether a republican or democrat dominated house and senate. e.p.a. came into reality under nixon, a republican. again not sure of the congressional makeup. but my first question is when did the great political divide happen? where folks who believe in the environmental initiatives are against big business and against private business and it's too expensive, and the other folks are for the consumers? so when did the great divide happen? then how does your research and information contribute to the global warming debate? again the same scenario. folks say it's a myth. we've always had dirty air, we're going to always have dirty air. and the other side says if

the tapes i find more interesting are the lbj tapes. in the lbj tapes, you don't see a terrible,xx= corrupt, torture mind railing about people and failing to think about the good of the country. you actually see a president being a president, using the levers of power. that is the sort of thing i think we really will -- as a big a believer in reporting though not as good a reporter, but that's the thing that we will really miss from not having that again. another question. yes, ma'am, right here in the black. >> lady in black instead of man in black. whenever i think of watergate i also think of snowden and his revelations. i was wondering if you would comment on -- i realize he's not a reporter. comment on what has happened in government, what do we expect and why are some of us not shocked that something like that has happened? >> one, you are not shocked because we have known it has been reported for years that an awful lot of this has been going on. >> it came out in 2006. >> there's been too much shock. and a lot of things taken ou

then a discussion with tom scully about the creation of medicare under lbj. as always we will take your phone calls and look for your comments on facebook and twitter, starting at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. c-span presents debates on what makes america great, evolution, and genetically modified foods, issues spotlight with in-depth looks at veteran health care, student loan debt, campus sexual assault. new perspectives including global warming, voting rights, fighting infectious disease.

'sgela, as we look at lbj great society.aller: i was listening to get somed i am able to information. it is just a suggestion on getting out information to people like myself and others. what to research on and things like that. host: where should people go for information? guest: you can come to center for neighborhood enterprise. we would be delighted to give you information we have. there is one book i would recommend and that is fred segal's book. "future once happened here." host: michael lind, we will conclude with you. they addressed people because of misfortune or a downturn needed income or needed in -- needed assistance. regions orome from backgrounds which have not prepared them to take advantage of the opportunities out there, they need supplementary help. provided on a local an individual basis. allow them to take advantage of the very considerable resources that the federal and state governments provide. host: -- gentlemen, thank you for being with us. we are going to continue our look at president johnson and

comparing lbj and wondering whether or not hillary clinton could follow the model of lbj. i s clinton has, as many of the texan president's, could be the barack obama to jfk. she hopes to follow an often ineffective program. the full story available online. what hillary can learn from lbj. conrad from philadelphia, good morning, republican line. caller: yes. i was wanting to make a comment when i hear some of the callers basically stating that there is some prejudice. my opinion on the republican side is that the commentator, it's not about blacks. it's not about whites. if you don't have nobody, no lobbyist defending and working for the blue collar people, you are not going to get nothing. there is no prejudice in the white house. it's all green. host: robert from south carolina, your thoughts on this. caller: the problem with race relations in my opinion is that the working white people have been convinced that the government is going to take from us and give to them, the blacks. host: why do you say that? caller: have you ever listened to rush limbaugh, the local right-

i would like to thank lbj, especially his wife, lady bird. when i grew up in washington when i was a kid, the potomac was a toilet bowl. and not just washington. baltimore, it's berg, these are all places i visited as a kid. charles townes, richmond -- charleston, richmond all these cities that have beautiful areas around their water known. they were toilet bowls back in the '60s. something had to be done, and god bless that they did it. now, a year, that's another story. -- air. washington doesn't have any industry in the air site other than power and automobile pollution, suffers from dirty air patterns from around the country. and we just have to do what -- and be good stewards of our environment. >> host: thanks, caller. anything from the? >> guest: i think it's true, goes back to our original discussions, that the problems were visible, workload a big issue back in the '60s and that's why there really was a consensus around all these issues. the issue now is, for example, people agree we want clean air. if we use the definition of clean

less than a year earlier, lbj was sworn in following president kennedy's assassination. you would go on to win the general election against barry goldwater. president johnson speech, which he outlines the goals and what she calls the great society. this is about 30 minutes. he has a message to give to you and the american people. [applause] >> chairman mccormack, my fellow americans -- i accept your nomination. i accept the duty of leading this party to victory this year. and i thank you, i thank you from the bottom of my heart for placing at my side the man that last night you so wisely selected to be the next vice president of the united states. [applause] i know i speak for each of you and all of you when i say he proved himself tonight in that great acceptance speech. [applause] and i speak for both of us when i tell you that from monday on he is going to be available for such speeches in all 50 states. we will try to lead you as we were led by that great champion of freedom, the man from independence, harry s. truman. [applause] but the gladness of this high occasio

>> the assumption among them is lbj was totally unbeatable in 1968 and bobby would run in 1972. >> ther movement and leader to jane mccarthy. >> how do you do? >> nice to meet you. >> senator, president johnson supporters say you don't have a chance and you'll be lucky if you get 10% of the vote. what do you say about that? >> i don't know. people supporting me say we'll do much better than that. >> one democrat, senator eugene mccarthy for his nomination, platform peace. >> eugene mccarthy does something taboo. >> mccarthy came in from left field. he was not thought of in the front rank of presidential contenders. but there was a great deal of frustration and even despair among the young. eugene mccarthy gave them hope. >> from nbc news in new hampshire, this is the news. >> if mccarthy gets as much as 30% of the vote or more against an income president he can claim a victory. >> he didn't win the new hampshire primary but took enough votes that it scared lyndon. >> he got 42% of the vote but mccarthy was nothing, an upstate, if mccarthy could draw blood, johnson was vulnerable. >> yo

tonight i want to speak to you of peace in vietnam and southeast asia. >> this is the moment for lbj,he pressures of vietnam are becoming almost overwhelming. >> it is true that a house divided against itself is a house that cannot stand. accordingly, i shall not seek, and i will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president. >> you have just heard the president of the united states, lyndon baynes johnson in an address from his office at the white house. the advanced text of his address did not contain those last remarks saying, and i quote from president johnson, i shall not seek and will not accept, the nomination of my party for the presidency. roger, no question about it, this was a bombshell politically. >> well, you really don't know where to begin. >> our guest today on meet the press is the vice president hubert h. humphrey who today yesterday announced his candidacy for the democratic presidential nomination. >> hubert humphry was lbj's vice president, and now he's running for president. humphrey has doubts about vietnam but has been a good soldier.

the question, the state of race relations today, 50 years after the great society plan from lbj.ood morning. caller: hello? host: good morning. it's poverty.eve and i believe a lot of the poverty comes from the government subsidizing illegitimacy. i feel.how i really believe this to be true. when people are poor, they are very frustrated. that is my comment. thank you. thank you. mani, locus valley, new york. i do believeler: that the riots you're seeing all over the country is a recognition from black people that culture is much rate of the law. even though the law does not allow people to shoot down black people in the street like dogs, there is a culture that permeates throughout law enforcement that devalues the law of black -- the lives of black people. the police stop young black boys and ask for id when there is no requirement for that under the law. for every black person hearing my voice, you need to understand that you have the right to be silent and you never have to speak to a police officer. simply ask for lightly if you're free to go, and if the answer is not yes, d

probably the most emotional pressure that somebody felt was lbj. think about it we are now celebrating so much of what he did in those first years of his presidency. the civil rights act, ending segregation in the south of voting rights act providing the precious right to millions of black americans open housing medicare aid to education and public television. he had a legacy almost unequaled up to his great hero fdr and then got into vietnam and watched in those last years of his life that legacy being cut into and not knowing how to get out of vietnam and getting stuck in it and getting worse an i wonder if you have ever thought to yourself up becoming a leader of this country because i can't think of anybody who would be better. >> thank you. >> you are like a combination of bobby greatest presidencies of research. >> if i were younger. when i was young i did think about going into public life because i think still however we may disparage politicians nowadays and the dysfunction of our legislature and the washington there's a something so rewar

probably the most emotional pressure that somebody felt was lbj. think about it, we are now celebrating so much of what he did in those first years of his presidency. the civil rights act, ending segregation in the south of voting rights act providing the precious right to millions of black americans open housing medicare aid to education and public television. he had a legacy almost unequaled up to his great hero fdr and then got into vietnam and watched in those last years of his life that legacy being cut into and not knowing how to get out of vietnam and getting stuck in it and getting worse an >> some insacred bl questions that no one's ever asked me before, so you did it. >> host: next question over here. >> caller: thank you very much for your wonderful work. i can't think of anybody who has greater insight into the presidency, the use of presidential decisions, choosing assistance to lead you through it. and i wonder if you've ever thought of yourself becoming a leader of the country, because can't think of think about whorl field be better

people, the most turned off people, the most disallusioned people and it's going to make the period of lbj in 1968 look tame. i hope we keep our eye on trying to e get to the truth. thank you. >> recognize the gentleman from massachusetts, father drinan, for purposes of general debate only for a period of 15 minutes. father drinan. >> members of the committee, in the long summer of 1787 at the constitutional convention in philadelphia, the delegates from my own state of massachusetts consistently opposed including impeachment in the constitution. massachusetts argued on july 20th of that year that american law unlike that of england would provide for a genuine separation of powers, judicial review and the regular elections by the people. hence it was argued the remedy of impeachment, which had been frequently abused in england would not be necessary in america. the delegates reasoned on that day that impeachment would impose a penalty in the absence of any specific statute, which would make known to those -- to all citizens the punishment that they would expect for their offenses. massachu

tot: can we trace 2007 back lbj? guest: every congress tends to ,ick the can down the road whether with housing, immigration, or many other issues. i think this was just another issue or another phase in public policy makers and politicians attempting badly, maybe not, to listen to what the needs of the population was and to experiment with the demonstration cities act. the 1968 housing act, which attempted to balance new community development in inner cities, homeownership, and rental. the argument will never be over. the goal line keeps changing. the population keeps changing. , chairman of the budget committee, potentially the chairman of the ways and means committee, is out with a new book. forward.": the way he has been on a tour talking about poverty. tanks at one of the think in washington putting out his proposal and his ideas. i want to have our viewers take a listen to what he is talking about involving housing. [video clip] the public and private sector work together, we can offer a more were civilized, cu

. >> a few days before lbj accepted the democratic residence shall nomination, representatives of the mississippi freedom democratic party testified before the credentials committee. protesting the all-white delegation from mississippi. executive director of the mississippi humanities council describes efforts throughout the summer of 1964 to expand voting rights for blacks. >> did you hear me? >> with freedom summer, the idea was they needed to attract national attention to what was happening in mississippi. civil rights activists worry that with their action, there was a lot of violence directed against them. there were murders and beatings that were not attracting national attention. the idea is if you can bring in outsiders, northerners, whites, that can attract more national attention, then they could show to the country and the rest of the world what needed to change. they brought down civil rights activists to come help in this process and the deed they attracted a great deal of national attention and quite tragically, with the murder of the michael schwerner, andrew goodman an

>> the assumption among the kennedy intimates was that lbj was totally unbeatable in 1968.obby would run in 1972. >> the anti-war movement needed a leader and it fell to jean mccarthy. >> very nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> senator, president johnson supporters say you don't have a chance in new hampshire and you'll be lucky to get 10% of the vote. what do you say about that? >> well, i don't know. the people supporting me said we'll do better than that. >> one democrat, senator eugene mccarthy -- >> eugene mccarthy does something that's taboo. he comes out against a sitting president from the same party. >> mccarthy came in from left field. he was not thought of in the front rank of presidential contenders. but there was a great deal of frustration and even despair among the young. eugene mccarthy gave them hope. >> how many volunteers for senate mccarthy? >> i'm ready to vote in the primary. >> from nbc news election central in manchester, new hampshire, this is the news. >> if mccarthy gets as much as 30% of the vote or more against an incumbent president, he

lbj than a year earlier, was sworn in following president kennedy's assassination. he would go on to win the general election against republican senator barry goldwater. [applause] >> the needs that we seek to fill, the hopes that we seek to not our needs or our hopes along. hopesre the needs and the of most of the people. careamericans want medical for older citizens, and so do i. most americans want fair and stable prices and decent income and so do i. most americans want a decent home and -- in a decent neighborhood for all, and so do i. most americans want an education for every child to the limit of his abilities, and so do i. [applause] most americans want a job for every man who wants to work, and so do i. [applause] most americans want victory in ouwa

host: we're looking at efforts put into effect under lbj. if you have questions for them ere's how you can call in. first up is calvin from north carolina. caller: good morning. thank you and the rest of the c-span crew for the really great job you do to keep us informed. two questions. one, as the gentleman articulated, lbj started this initiative. democratic president with i'm not sure whether a republican or democrat dominated house and senate. e.p.a. came into reality under nixon, a republican. again not sure of the congressional makeup. but my first question is when did the great political divide happen? where folks who believe in the environmental initiatives are against big business and against private business and it's too expensive, and the other folks are for the consumers? so when did the great divide happen? then how does your research and information contribute to the global warming debate? again the same scenario. folks say it's a myth. we've always had dirty air, we're going to always have dirty air. and the other side says if

people, the most turned off people, the most disallusioned people and it's going to make the period of lbj in 1968 look tame. i hope we keep our eye on trying to e get

nixon tapes but lbj takes.at's your take, leaving aside your 10-year-old self, on what we knew now, what we know now about nixon that we didn't understand at the moment of his resignation? >> first off, i just want to talk about how honored and what a surreal experience it is for my former 10-year-old self to be sitting here between woodward and bernstein talking about watergate with all of you. but that said, in between then and now, i have listened to an awful lot of tapes. and i think the biggest thing that i've learned about watergate from the tapes is that nixon had little choice but to launch a cover-up. once the watergate burglars were arrested and the investigation went to the so-called masterminds of that break-in, nixon had to obstruct the investigation because the investigation of hunt and liddy's crimes would lead back to his own. the white house hired hunt and liddy to be part of this secret illegal unconstitutional special investigations unit that nixon ran out of the white house. he had put it to

lbj wanted to be a texas cowboy. how about less cowboy or cowgirl, if you will, for me? i would rather be angela merkel if you want to be a woman leader who knows how to put it together without war. >> she's a tough leader, too. hillary clinton has been secretary of state. she's shown herself on the international stage. the question of having to appear tough is more a question for campaign than if they were to become president. i'm not sure she would have to demonstrate something about her own firmness just for that sake. her instinct is fairly hawkish. you know, as she looks at the middle east and the projection of u.s. power. >> it's an interesting moment now. there is a lot of chaos overseas that has americans pretty worked up or at least upset or concerned. they are looking towards obama. what they want is for our president to take care of it. they don't want war. i think they are tired of war. at the same time they don't want chaos. it really leaves open for a very skilled politician to figure out how to deal with a public that wants a leader that will deal with thi

you've been immersed in not just nixon tapes but lbj takes. what's your take, leaving aside your 10-year-old self, on what we knew now, what we know now about nixon that we didn't understand at the moment of his resignation? >> first off, i just want to talk about how honored and what a surreal experience it is for my former 10-year-old self to be sitting here between woodward and bernstein talking about watergate with all of you. but that said, in between then and now, i have listened to an awful lot of tapes. and i think the biggest thing that i've learned about watergate from the tapes is that nixon had little choice but to launch a cover-up. once the watergate burglars who are rested and the investigation went to the so-called masterminds of that break-in, nixon had to obstruct the 2içx3r investigation because the investigation of the crimes would lead back to his own. the white house hired liddy to i be part of this secret illegal unconstitutional special investigations unit that nixon ran out of the white house. he had put it together, w

the tapes i find more interesting are the lbj tapes.he lbj tapes, you don't see a terrible,xx= corrupt, torture mind railing about people and failing to think about the good of the country. you actually see a president being a president, using the levers of power. that is the sort of thing i think we really will -- as a big a believer in reporting though not as good a reporter, but that's the thing that we will really miss from not having that again. another question. yes, ma'am, right here in the black. >> lady in black instead of man in black. whenever i think of watergate i also think of snowden and his revelations. i was wondering if you would comment on -- i realize he's not a reporter. comment on what has happened in government, what do we expect and why are some of us not shocked that something like that has happened? >> one, you are not shocked because we have known it has been reported for years that an awful lot of this has been going on. >> it came out in 2006. >> there's been too much shock. and a lot of things taken out of

the tapes i find more interesting are the lbj tapes.he lbj tapes, you don't see a terrible,xx= corrupt, torture mind railing about people and failing to think about the good of the country. you actually see a president being a president, using the levers of power. that is the sort of thing i think we really will -- as a big a believer in reporting though not as good a reporter, but that's the thing that we will really miss from not having that again. another question. yes, ma'am, right here in the black. >> lady in black instead of man in black. whenever i think of watergate i also think of snowden and his revelations. i was wondering if you would comment on -- i realize he's not a reporter. comment on what has happened in government, what do we expect and why are some of us not shocked that something like that has happened? >> one, you are not shocked because we have known it has been reported for years that an awful lot of this has been going on. >> it came out in 2006. >> there's been too much shock. and a lot of things taken out of

. >> host: with lbj the war continues and i understand you talking about the consensus of the slaveryn the 50s and 60s but that quality of what kind of jobs there is a big difference. they are versus being in the lower end of the spectrum the kind of jobs for agriculture at variance and housekeepers and things of that nature. >> guest: that's not what i'm talking about. blacks were joining the skilled professions at a faster rate prior to affirmative action policies which began in earnest in the 1970s than they were after those policies were put in place. teachers, craftsmen and so forth joining the provisions at a higher rate prior to the passage of these. again, almost without thinking we credit is like a form of action for helping to swell the ranks of the black middle class and increase the number of the college graduates. in fact affirmative action has had the opposite effect. we have 40 years of evidence to look at regarding the affirmative action policies. i will give you a quick example. at the university of california in the empir entire state syste, racial preferences were b

we look at lbj's "great society." we will also take your calls, beginning live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c-span. secretarys affairs robert mcdonald spoke recently at the 70th annual american veterans national convention. it was his first major speech since being confirmed by the senate in july. he addressed some of the recent problems at the v.a. and talked about improving veteran access to health care. this is 25 minutes. >> thank you. please, be seated. thank you for your strong and independent and great support for our veterans. good afternoon. it is an honor and privilege to join you in memphis, tennessee. i spoke as i was preparing for my senate confirmation hearing but this is my first chance to speak directly to the quarter million members of your organization and discuss the concerns we all share. and what we are going to do about them. let me say right off. i appreciate your contribution to va reform. the discussions that we have had on capitol hill and across the nation. i welcome counsel from amvets and other organizations. your experience and deep devotion to

. >> guest: he did because he knew that lbj, who we famously know was really good at twisting arms, wanted to get into a sort of tete-a-tete with him about the vietnam war. king was unalterably opposed to our involvement in this military excursion, and he didn't want to get into this sort of arm-twisting back and forth with johnson. his principles were clear: we do not need to be involved this this vietnam war. and his whole ethos was about, of course, nonviolence. and it wasn't just for american children, it was nonviolence for vietnamese children. so he's sitting in a restaurant one day looking at a magazine, and he sees the bodies of vietnamese babies who have been napalmed to death. and he's in the middle of his meal, and he just stops eating. and one of his aides say to him, docker does the food not taste any good? do you want to get something else? he says, no, this food or any other food will never taste good to me ever again. if i don't do everything i can to stop this war in vietnam. and it becomes a crusade for him. so in the last year of his life, he's talking about what he call

>> in the aftermath of nixon's experience, no sane president will ever -- we will not have lbj tapes, we will not have nixon tapes. you know, people are scared to keep diaries, et cetera. >> but we have different technology. >> but we have reporting. >> will we be able to know either in real time or after the fact what we were dealing with? >> that's why we need more in-depth reporting. >> that's it. if you go -- i just was looking at something -- i hate to come back to something the two of us -- but i was looking at one of bob's books. [ laughter ] or elizabeth's books, actually. in fact, if you look at what elizabeth has reported through these administrations, which is a very different take than the conventional wisdom of this town, read her "new yorker" pieces, read her pieces in the "new york review of books" and you see that the conventional w wisdom of this town is so far off the mark, so consumed by questions of who's in and who's out and my nuinutminutia, as op what the real story is. that's where i'm trying to go here. look, what woodward and i -- let's take a look at one of

. >> reporter: in akron, ohio, it was lbj delirium. lebron james fans going wild with the news.fans, raring to welcome the king home. >> i would make my city and my state happy. and that's why i came back. i love you. i'm back. >> reporter: james, that rare athlete, able to elevate an entire community, before he had even been back in a cavs uniform, made this promise today. >> my number one goal is to win a championship here. i think it would be the greatest achievement in my life. >> reporter: it has been a long round trip for the nba powerhouse. slammed for his arrogant departure. >> i'm going to take my talents to south beach and join the miami heat. >> reporter: fans made it personal. but after four years in miami and two nba championships, the 29-year-old, four-time mvp, decided to come back. >> breaking news, lebron james is coming home. >> how fast did it take for you to forgive lebron? >> instantly. >> reporter: james' return is estimated to bring in an additional $500 million a year to the city, from ticket sales to jobs. he may have left a villain. but tonight, lebron

it has helped lbj's representation because it shows his passion for the poor and shows the great societyin action with civil rights and the rest. with nixon, he came in and said none of that taping for me. johnson is trying to convince me it's a good idea i'm not going to do it. but february of 1971 he couldn't help himself. he felt he was ending the vietnam war and making a break through with china. armstrong had gone to the moon. he had created the environmental protection agency and was dealing with segregation in the south and giving people the right to vote at 18. he thought he would be needing to document his own greatness. it was his undoing because it was voice activated. he bugged the whole white house up. he bugged camp david. one of the reasons this book is coming out now because the national archive has been processing the tapes. in it you can find so much dynamite to destroy nixon's presidency in his own words because he's constantly using abusive language toward people. really it's the bigotry and anti-semettism that's doing the most damage to nixon's representation from th

lbj tapes. you don't see a corrupt tortured mind railing about people and failing to think about the country. you actually see a president using the levers of power, being a president. as the sort of thing we really -- as big a believer in reporting, but not as good a reporter is bob and carl, but that we will really miss from not having that again. let's get another question. right here in the black. >> whenever i think of watergate , i think about what happened with snowden and his revelations. i was wondering if you could comment on -- i realize he is not a reporter. but comment on what has happened in government, what we expect, and why are some of us not shocked that something like that has happened? >> you are not shocked because we have known. it has been reported for years that an awful lot of this has been going on. shock.as been too much a lot of things are taken out of context. this whole debate about is he a hero, or a traitor, or all the rest? it seems to me what we have -- look. te

program and sports and media e here at the university of texast we are pleased to partner againe with the lbj library. this is our fifth event we haveo partnered with them. this is on sports in society cgr that was founded by one of the distinguished alumnis. ha we are police e pleased to part on many occasions. we also have an interesting war, timing w of this today. yesterday, one of our participants, dr. harry edwardsv moment, we formally announced that we have established a permanent lecture at the on university of texas called the dr. harry edwards lecture on sports in society. [ applause ]ts we couldn't possibly find a wars better person in the history ofn sports and civil rights than dre harry edwards. he was gracious enough to lend his name to that lecture. we expect we will have several presentations under that name in the coming years.d civi today is -- we have a conversation that's going to occur on the area of sports and yea civil rights. i've been a part of many panelsn and many presentations over the years. normally, you try and find the best panelists and the best people to mak

about head start and food stamps and medicare and lbj isd, all this talking, talking to king. and you here king say -- mr. president, when i left the stage , i was coming to washington myself in 1968. i wanted to start a poor people's campaign. i wanted to pick out on that war on poverty. i wanted to bring it to life yet again. and then you start to hear johnson say that is what i wanted, i want people involved. i want state and local people giving their resources to innovate, to determine and speak to people directly in a way that they can relate to, not from any .rand federal construction i want people on the ground who know the people in meet and help those people as part of their community. to revive people, to give them some hope. king says to them, yes, mr. johnson, yes, you tell him. ignore these people. you tell them. you tell them and tell all the doubters that it was during your time as president that the poverty rate fell from 24% to 12%. you tell them, president johnson. then, king turns and sits down. and johnson sits down and wouldn't you know it, they sit down r

uptown in harlem a white police officer shot a 15-year-old kid named james brown, and this is what will lbjk officials should have all the help we can give them and this includes helping correct the evil social conditions that breed despair and disorder. so he's already previewing that kerner commission speech three years laettnter in 1964. so this is about presidential leadership. it has nothing to do with the race of the president necessa necessarily. it's about, as you said, the leadership of elected officials. as the state senator pointed out, on some level for 30 or 40 years our black officials failed us because there is this silence violence, of poverty, broken schools, unemployment. of black political empowerment. >> is it possible that eisenhower, that johnson could be more forthright and forward in their discourse because they were white presidents? not that anyone had seen anything but a white president but whenever president obama speaks about this kind of violence against black men is that he begins to equivocate because of how we have trained the president about how people will

. >> host: do you remember where you were when lbj signed the civil rights act? >> guest: 10% of the money in the law had to go where 20% of the population or more was under the poverty level for 30 years. we work on thes things every day to address the issue of under and unemployment and to try to reach people who are suffering today because the economy, the recovery hasn't gotten to them the way it should. we are trying to direct those resources and that is one of the ways we are doing it. >> host: catherine in emuclaw, washington. >> guest: i want to thank the gentlemen for their service and their teaching. i am 70 years old, white woman who remembers very well freedom summer, emit till and all remember all of that. and i don't want to see it happen again. i have been so angry at what happened in ferguson, trayvon martin, the two killings in new york by police man. i just want to see it stop. this country is like suburban kings of france. it forgives nothing. help us learn how to organize again. ... students to say we are going to meet at 12:00 tomorrow and we

that is what happened with lbj and it's still too.'s probably because we don't want to have a national conversation on race to the bill clinton announcement, it's a block. eric holder called for one. he got called a racist. i get called a racist from one international conversation. >> host: what does that mean? >> guest: let's be honest, like juan williams book, he said, a book called muslims because talk about race is muzzled in our society. it's like sex, don't talk about it in front of the children. but the fact is these blowups, these racial eruptions like ferguson is how we have our natural conversations and attention. as a columnist am working on my third column now. this is not what happened after fallujah. this country really wants to have it on this talk about race but conservatives will tie your i can't talk on is about race without being called a racist. that's a problem in itself the us talk about will we can't talk about race but it's on after we get a trayvon martin or a ferguson that we do much talking. >> host: lidia i

everybody is always forever pointing back to lbj and talking about the personal touch of lbj, the armwisting, getting in their faces, one-on-one stuff. probably a lot of mythology in that. was there a point when that used to work and it stopped working? >> yeah. it worked when there was overlap idiosyncrasy logically between the parties and when there was a possibility of garnering support from the other side of the aisle for a president. it also worked when the democratic party in this case was much more divided idiosyncrasy logically and it took particular presidential skills and efforts to bring some of those democrats along who didn't want to come along. now the party is much more unified. i mean, barack obama got all 60 democrats to vote for cloture on health reform. that included some pretty conservative members, including ben nelson, in particular. therefore, democrats are inclined to go along. there isn't a single piece of legislation or a single confirmation battle in which the president has failed for lack of support on the democratic side. i think all of the talk, whether i

there's a story of john steinbeck visiting with lbj. he loves steinbeck. go with jefferson and theodore roosevelt. the most literate of the presidents. >> you are including well read in a sense of intellectual culture. n the book is called "the nixobn tapes." >> thanks charlie. >> thank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪ . . >> welcome to "money clip." for adam crumpton in johnson. here is the rundown. in media, it is not just "frozen." and corporatee america raised their glasses. in world, vladimir putin wants to ban u.s. and eu products in russia. college retaliation for sanctions on the west. today's wildcard, johnson gets fired