, leaderless for movements. there is nobody space you are going to put on a t-shirt from these revolutions. when you look at the leadership structure, it looks like the internet itself, like a web more than a pyramid within -- with a charismatic leader. >> that leaderlessness itself can make it difficult to form policy and it can make it difficult for revolutions to take hold. how does the state department deal with that? >> look, it is a huge problem. on the one hand, the relative leaderlessness of the internet- enabled movement is a good thing. it means the revolutions are more citizen-center then propelled by a cult of personality. on the other hand, what about when the revolution is over? who is in charge? where is thomas jefferson? where is nelson mandela? the leadership is distributed. there are not a go-to leaders are around whom the country will rally -- there are not go to the leaders. there are institutions, as in poland with the solidarity movement, behind whom a new government can be formed. it prese

on the one hand the relative leaderlessness of the internet-enabled movement. on the one hand it's a good thing. the revolutions are citizens centered than propelted by a personality. on the other hand, what about when the revolution is over? who is in charge? where is thomas jefferson or nelson man dallas? the leadership is distributed. there aren't go-to leaders around whom the country will rally. there right-hand turn institutions as in poll lane with the solidarity movement behind them a new government can be formed. it presents enormous challenges to the state democrat and presents even bigger challenges frankly to the people in a country that is just overthrown the ruler has to then ask itself what now? who is going to lead us. there are both god aspects and negatives a pockets to the roll of the internet in propelling the movements. >> host: you mentioned robert ford's work in syria. he ceptd up even since the ambassador has been close there had. and virtual embassy in teheran. where do they fall short? glrg they fall well short of what a real traditiona

the problem is on the one hand it's the idealization of what that leaderless generation was about.bond and working with all those great figures but the problem is when it comes time to dole out responsibility or to take the charge and to be able to focus, because what you mentioned before was it was about legislation. you can go to the march and you can march and march but unless you change the laws that govern the existence of black people ain't much happening. >> dr. dyson was able to echo this, when the moment of the civil rights movement began to wane, it was sncc that pushed it. what's critical is how do we mobilize and galvanize young people to be a part of it. and what has been the missing interjer of civil rights has been in the church. we have old people and babies. but they're -- >> and men. >> and men. 18 to 45 and men. if we add those into when you study the model of what happened to leaderless models it's happened through young people and men on the forefront and what's critical for the church, the civil rights community and the academy. how do we get young people and

, leaderless movements.there's nobody's face you're going to put on a t-shirt from these revolutions. so if you look at the leadership structures, it actually looks more like the internet itself, like a web more so than a pyramid with a single leader inspiring the masses from on high. >> host: that leaderlessness itself can make it difficult to form policy if you don't have someone to talk with and make it difficult for revolutions to take hold. how is the state department dealing with that? >> guest: look, it's a huge problem. so on the one hand, the relative leaderlessness of these internet-enabled movements, on the one hand it's a good thing. it means that the revolutions are more citizen-centered than propelled by a cult of personality. on the other hand, what about when the revolution is over? who's in charge? where's thomas jefferson, where's nelson mandela? you know, the leadership is distributed. there aren't go-to leaders around whom the country will rally. there aren't institutions as there was in

it is the leaderless event with no preplanned routes. takes place on the last friday of each month. the first one took place in san fran and since spread to some 300 cities worldwide. the idea here is seufpl isel, a fun ride for anyone who wants -- simple, a fun ride for anyone who wants to join in. they are in union square. typically they don't stop for traffic signals and over the years there has been a confrontation with a motorist caught up in backed up traffic. we are live where the focus tonight is on the younger generation of riders. >> we expect the pedicab to come through with our camera any minute now. we are looking at the smaller version called kidical mass. it is the monthly random bike ride around san francisco. we join inside with our camera on the ground following along with this group and it has grown beyond the bay area. >> we have people from europe, germany, france, italy. >> it was a plan i made in two years. >> reporter: macaroni is a bike activist through europe. when he heard of today's event he had to be part television. he left belgium headed to mexico city

worn in massachusetts but there is no record occupy wall street kind of proud of itself in being a leaderless kind of movement well that's a problem if you want to affect change in this country because we live in a representative democracy. and if you want to have any change made it's going to have to be through legislation and that legislation is sent to representatives you can elect someone to represent what you believe in it's not going to go anywhere and if what you believe in is according to ninety nine percent ninety nine problems and not a single unified kind of ideology it becomes a really problem a really big problem in getting someone to represent you in those beliefs i really do think that the one thing that all of the occupy wall street protesters could have agreed on was overturning citizens united and i never really understood why you know i understood where they didn't want to get involved in politics they want to be kind of the anti political movement but. i'm not saying that it was a failure on the part of occupy occupy wall street but it was definitely a hindrance to them do

commentary of the corporate controlled press occupy wall street was founded on the notion of a leaderless movement because in a real democracy power comes from the people so it would be unfair for me to just point out one person as today's hero so instead i want to highlight the live stream or as who took it upon themselves to shine a light on the demands of the ninety nine percent and the brutal crackdowns by law enforcement agencies across the country against thousands of americans that's why the live stream of occupy wall street are today's heroes so if they're the heroes who's the villain well i can't highlight our glorious villain without first sharing you a new development relating to the highly salacious julia songe affair you know all the evidence supposedly linking julian assange to the sexual assault of two women in. so we don't write well it may have just gotten a little bit more questionable the exciting thing is we're no longer playing that he said she said game we finally have something concrete yet we've got condoms you see a forensic team in sweden has just revealed a key

i highly doubt that they're going to put a leader forward this is always been something of a leaderless movement some activists like to call it a leader full movement. the crux of the really what it boils down to is that the media. continues to portray the movement as dying and fizzling out when it's simply not the truth. i was i was somewhat skeptical heading up to new york this weekend because i wasn't i didn't know exactly what the turnout was going to be. and by late afternoon at zuccotti park after a lot of the actions had been completed earlier during the stock exchange. i was i was thunderstruck by the amount of people that were in that park it was practically full and the energy and the atmosphere is very much like those first couple of weeks of the beginning when occupy wall street kicked off and just to wrap it up really quickly does that what do you see them filling kind of the strategies that they did talk about at the national gathering into the next phase i would say. that remains to be seen you know the the document that was produced at the national gathering in philadelp

the problem with the revolution was that it was leaderless. that allowed a well organized groups, in egypt, that's the islamists, once the dust has settled and mark was gone, that is where you have in egypt -- islamist groups that were able to organize and win elections well the people who started the revolution were leaderless and disorganized. some of these islamist groups have been behind drumming up anti-american sentiment and the attack on the embassy in cairo and two weeks ago. you had a u.s.-designated terrorist organization that even prior to the release of this anti-of islamic web video have been calling for protests in front of the u.s. embassy calling for the release of the blind sheik responsible for the 1993 bombing. that attack on the embassy in cairo was premeditated. with help of other organizations, they later used a video to drum up support for their protests. that protest host: the lead story in this morning's "new york times", egypt leader spells out terms for u.s.-arab ties on the eve of his first trip to the united states

quickly able to organize and win elections while the people who had started the revolution were still leaderless and very much disorganized and some of the limitless groups have been behind drumming up antiamerican sentiment and of course the attack on the embassy in cairo two weeks ago. there you had agoma, al uslimia, that prior to the release of the antiislamic web video had been calling for protests on 9/11 and from the u.s. embassy, demanding the release of omar rafman, the blind sheikh responsible for the 1993 bombing. that attack on the embassy in cairo was very much premeditated, ogahma later used a video to drum up support for the protests. that protest was very much premeditated. host: the lead story in this morning's "new york times", egypt leader spells out terms for u.s.-arab ties on the eve of his first trip to the united states as egypt's new islamist president, muhammad morsi says the united states needs to fundamentally change its approach to the arab world showing greater respect for its value and helping build a palestinian state if it hoped to overcome decades of pent-up earn