i was hoping lee rogers would mention this. [bell rings] president chiu: thank you of fremont. next speaker please? if you could use -- if you use the microphone to your right. >> i have lived here for 20 years, and the office of the board of education is a highly- esteemed office. it should be able people who do not have enough money -- what would it take to see it become an office? that is sort of the double mind theire. people do not want to spend the money, jobs being what they are these days. thank you. president chiu: any of the members of the public first to speak on this topic? seeing none, public comment on this item is closed. unless colleagues anyone would like to say anything -- i will close this and move to item 43? without objection, this hearing has been held closed, and now we are considering item 44. supervisor mar. supervisor mar: i would like to think supervisor kim. i think it is a really nice when we can be on board in supporting a charter amendment for the school board and make it more accessible for people or regular parents, working run for office as a f

rogers will be followed by ms. jackson lee, ms. mccaul. >> thank you, mr. chairman and secretary, thank you for being here. i always look forward to having your feedback. recently, i had chief fisher in here from my subcommittee, and was -- we had a problem in coming up with the definition that dhs is using for determining whether or not they've secured the southwest border. the term is defined in the law, operational control is defined as being the prevention of all unlawful entries into the united states, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics and other contraband. when we asked chief fisher to define operational control, he had the department's definition which was different. why don't you all use the definition that's set out in federal law? >> well, representative, i think you'll find throughout federal law different definitions of different things where security is concerned. what we are concerned about is making sure the border regions, both northern and southern are safe and secure. we have some k

rogers will be followed by ms. jackson lee, ms. mccaul. >> thank you, mr. thank you for bng here. i always look forward to having your feedback. recently, i had chief fisher in here from my subcommittee, and was -- we had a problemn coming up with the definition that dhs is using for determining whether or not they've secured the southwest border. the term is defined in the law, operational control is defined as being the prevention of all unlawful entries into the united states, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics and other contraband. when we asked chief fisher to define operational ontrol, he had the department's definition which was different. why don't you all use the definition that's set out in deral law? >> well, representative, i think you'll find troughout federal law different definitions of different things where security is concerned. what we areoncerned about is making sure the border region both northern and southern are safe and secure. we have some key concerns there. we've been making

rogers will be followed by ms. jackson lee, ms. mccaul. >> thank you, mr.airman and secretary, thank you for being here. i always look forward to having your feedback. recently, i had chief fisher in here from my subcommittee, and was -- we had a problem in coming up with the definition that dhs is using for determining whether or not they've secured the southwest border. the term is defined in the law, operational control is defined as being the prevention of all unlawful entries into the united states, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics and other contraband. when we asked chief fisher to define operational control, he had the department's definition which was different. why don't you all use the definition that's set out in federal law? >> well, representative, i think you'll find throughout federal law different definitions of different things where security is concerned. what we are concerned about is making sure the border regions, both northern and southern are safe and secure. we have some key

lee it there. we want to let you know that this week on "newsmakers," kentucky congressman harold rogers, the chairman of the house appropriations committee is our guest. congressman rogers is talking about working on short-term spending bills to avert a shutdown of the federal government. and working on spending bills for 2011 and 2012 all at once. and the impact of new freshmen congressman on setting spending priorities in this bit of the conversation that we're getting ready to show you, he's talking about what happens if two weeks pass and congress' short-term spending bills run out again without an agreement on spending for fy 2011. >> i think the republicans goal in the house is not have a government shtdown. that's our overriding goal. we realize how important the government is to a lot of people and to of course the progress of the nation. so we are determined not to have a shutdown. and as long as the leaders are negotiating with the white house, trying to reach an agreement on the ballots of the year, on appropriations committee we will be a part of that conversation. but also, we will attem