so leon panetta, former secretary of defense, must testify under oath whether or not he told presidentma it was a terrorist attack on the day the murders happened. panetta met with mr. obama in the white house shortly after the attack. incredibly, leann panetta has not been directly asked that question under oath. and the house of representatives should do so. 'net that is the key to knowing if the obama campaign and president himself used deception in the murder of our libyan ambassador. every patriotic american should want to know what happened there. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. reaction fox news analyst karl rove. now both you and i know leon panetta. i think is he a patriot and you do, too, correct? >> yes, absolutely. >> we think he is a patriot. >> yes. >> we know he was told by the command in africa. >> general carter ham who is at the pentagon that day. >> right. ham testified under oath that he told panetta that day that it was a terrorist attack. then, as soon as he was briefed. panetta went to the white house to talk to president obama. >> for regular

leon panetta has testified at least twice before house committees.ny committees that can claim jurisdiction over this issue. chaffetz' committee that he sits on along with others to the intelligence committee to the foreign affairs committee, everybody wants a piece of the pie and that's part of the problem. >> here's my beef. so we established with president obama that on the libya issue, and i asked him point blank, did secretary of defense leon panetta tell you it was a terrorist attack on the day it happened. simple question because i'm a simple man, as you know. he wouldn't answer the question. the president wouldn't answer it. he was all over the place. all right. now, i'm tired of republicans whining about president obama when they have subpoena power to bring in the man who talked to him on that day, low aun eon pa and ask him did you tell the president of the united states it was a terror attack and panetta under oath would have to answer yes or no. >> i think they need a select committee that not only has subpoena power but prosecute e r pr

leon panetta invited chairman rogers out to dinner in his quiet dining room on -- at langley. i was like enough to get to go along as staffer and i assumed that dinner was a very shrewd way of cia director beginning to build a relationship with someone who had oversight responsibility over the agency. and so as we walked to dinner i expected to go back and have a nice dinner but we were led into leon panetta's office and he had a citizens conference table which was strewn with pictures of the abbottabad compound in pakistan and he had at the table also two of the top spies and analysts on the bin laden case and was able to lay out for chairman rogers. he pulled it piece of paper out of the breast pocket of his jacket and he looked like he had just briefed the white house and scribbled notes. a very detailed update of we think we might've found bin laden and this is the best led since tora bora. here are the reasons we think that and here are the things we are going to try to do in the coming months. so it was a good first day at the office. i felt fortunate to be able to get t

leon panetta met with president obama and they knew. and then the stuff still continued to happen.l o'reilly asked president obama the right question in his interview around the super bowl. he said -- >> let's get leon panetta back on the stand and ask him now, i know he testified before, but ask him now after general ham testified, hey, is ham right? did you guys know this was an attack immediately? if you did, why did they push the video? >> exactly. last word, dana. paramount is going to make a film on benghazi. >> i'm sure. >> do you think it will be more truthful? >> if paramount can answer the question, the paramount question, who pushed the video. the excuse can only mean there's a cover-up for politics and the administration will continue to face scrutiny. and if they don't want to answer it, that's fine, but i do think that, bob, i think that republicans, when they wake up in the country, they think, why can't that simple question be answered? and that will matter in 2014. >> and shouldn't bill o'reilly have asked him what he was doing the night of the attack? i'm curious

do you know why the house oversight committee is reluctant to do so to call leon panetta?, but the challenge has been made. and wisconsin, bill, you are dead on about the president's mindset from his point of view. many things don't really matter because the end justifies the means. albuquerque, new mexico, bill, it was disconcerting to hear you and megyn joking about the ongoing problems in russia. what were you thinking? well, linda, perhaps two things, reporting what was happening in the olympic games and why did they pick sochi over salzburg, austria, that makes no sense, you can't even take a shower in russia, that is why putin has his shirt off just in case rain comes in so he can take a shower real fast. and bill, who appointed you drug czar? you're obsessed. feeling a bit insecure. i feel like legalizing marijuana is harming the nation, if you see it differently. and bill, my husband and i would like to have talking points over dinner. depends on who you're serving, talking points can be fussy, and bill, can you let my husband know that urchin number four is due in

do you know why the house oversight committee is reluctant to do so to call leon panetta?enge has been made. and wisconsin, bill, you are dead on about the president's mindset from his point of view. many things don't really matter because the end justifies the means. albuquerque, new mexico, bill, it was disconcerting to hear you and megyn joking about the ongoing problems in russia. what were you thinking? well, linda, perhaps two things, reporting what was happening in the olympic games and why did they pick sochi over salzburg,. you can't even take a shower in russia, that is why putin has his shirt off just in case rain comes in so he can take a shower real fast. and bill, who appointed you drug czar? you're obsessed. feeling a bit insecure. i feel like legalizing marijuana is harming the nation, if you see it differently. and bill, my husband and i would like to have talking points over dinner. depends on who you're serving, talking points can be fussy, and bill, can you let my husband know that urchin number four is due in october? wow. so you have been doing a litt

i said to him that leon panetta was told by general carter ham on the day the attack happened he was told that it was an organized terrorist attack and then he went to the white house and i asked president obama did secretary panetta tell you it was a terrorist attack? that's the crux of the matter. and he didn't really answer it and i asked him twice. >> no. and you have got to remember that he went to the u.n. he went on "the view." he went on univision up to two weeks after the attack and was still talking about the video. >> we know all of that but do you have proof, does your committee have proof that secretary of defense panetta told the president on the day of the benghazi attack it was a terrorist action? can you prove it? >> we had testimony from general carter ham, he is the four star general. >> i know. i mentioned that to the president. but you don't have anything from panetta. why not? >> because that question had not been asked. but i will tell you that senator lindsey graham did ask general ham what had happened and general ham at one point said? we have thatten othe r

he wanted to know if defense secretary leon panetta told the president on the day of the attack if it was an act of terror. >> did he tell you it was a terror attack? >> bill, i'm answering your question. what he said to me was we've got to an attack on our compound yet. >> we don't know yet. >> we don't know yet who's doing it. understand, bill, when somebody's attacking our compound, it's an act of terror, which it what it was characterized the day after the attack. the question ends up being who, in fact, was attacking us. >> now, the administration did initially describe the attack as a spontaneous protest. last night the president denied there was any politically motivated coverup and the president also denied that the u irs was used to harass conservatives. anne-marie? >> susan mcginnis in washington. thank you, susan. >>> oscar winner philip seymour hoffman is remembered as one of the great actors. he was found dead in his apartment yesterday. often spoke of his troubles with drug addiction and last year he admitted to falling off the wagon after being sober for 20 years. it wa

leon panetta invited chairman rogers out to dinner in his quiet dining room on -- at langley. i was like enough to get to go along as staffer and i assumed that dinner was a very shrewd way of cia director beginning to build a relationship with someone who had oversight responsibility over the agency. and so as we walked to dinner i expected to go back and have a nice dinner but we were led into leon panetta's office and he had a citizens conference table which was strewn with pictures of the abbottabad compound in pakistan and he had at the table also two of the top spies and analysts on the bin laden case and was able to lay out for chairman rogers. he pulled it piece of paper out of the breast pocket of his jacket and he looked like he had just briefed the white house and scribbled notes. a very detailed update of we think we might've found bin laden and this is the best led since tora bora. here are the reasons we think that and here are the things we are going to try to do in the coming months. so it was a good first day at the office. i felt fortunate to be able to get t

that is why leon panetta wanted her buy in on bin laden. what do you think? guest: we will see what happens with ukraine. for the u.s., we simply do not have that kind of power we would like to have internationally. there was a time when the u.s. would speak and other nations would respond. i think the american public expects there is something the u.s. can do to affect a situation. really, in terms of affecting foreign politics, often it is a long-term thing we can do through sanctions. it is very hard to do immediately. if you are in the ukraine and fighting for your life are fighting to put on a revolution, what the u.s. says or sanctions might not have any immediate bearing. host: talking about hillary clinton's career and her future with the authors of a new book, "hrc." ,"ie parnes of "the hill jonathan allen from bloomberg. this line from your book on libya. war." was hillary's hert: this could have been crown jewel, republicans think that was the attack they were taking, then benghazi happened. guest: in terms of it being her the presidents., and many

that is why leon panetta wanted her buy in on bin laden. what do you think? guest: we will see what happens with ukraine. the problem for the u.s., we simply do not have that kind of power we would like to have internationally. there was a time when the u.s. would speak and other nations would respond. i think the american public expects there is something the u.s. can do to affect a situation. really, in terms of affecting foreign politics, often it is a long-term thing we can do through sanctions. it is very hard to do immediately. if you are in the ukraine and fighting for your life are fighting to put on a revolution, what the u.s. says or sanctions might not have any immediate bearing. host: talking about hillary clinton's career and her future with the authors of a new book, "hrc." amie parnes of "the hill," jonathan allen from bloomberg. this line from your book on libya. "libya was hillary's war." guest: this could have been her crown jewel, republicans think that was the attack they were taking, then benghazi happened. guest: in terms of it being her

. >> guest: we had a situation where leon panetta told him on election day that he wasn't going to stick around and the successor susan rice the one that obama wanted to put into the job was getting absolutely destroyed on capitol hill over benghazi in the talking points on the morning talk shows in addition to that her charms to maneuver some of the senators to her side. chanted that getting -- so he's looking at a situation where he will have to have a new defense secretary and that new secretary of state. he has someone who has become most loyal and strong advisor to him. if we keep hillary clinton in here for a while we can resurrect susan rice a little susan rice a little bit. an interesting moment there where she just says i am done. >> host: what you think the impact could be on secretary of state john kerry's tenure and what he might accomplish? we don't know yet that could he overshadow in 2016, could he overshadow what she did. >> guest: he has a few years left to accomplish what he is going to accomplish and he is certainly reaching for the stars. there is an effort to claim u

clinton never called leon panetta, secretary of defense. that is stunning. >> it was not stunning enough for david petraeus to talk about. of all of the things they intrude david petraeus about in regarding benghazi. this is what he wanted on the record with and what does that tell you? >> everybody makes mistakes. >> you think that david petraeus made a mistake. he also said in a different part of the book, she would make a tremendous president. for political purposes it sounds like he is endorsing her are as though he believes in her. >> you could be right. that would be mistake number two. >> it sounds like, how do you interpret this he is giving the glowing reviews. >> he's possibly sucking up to her. i don't know what is on his mind. i think his assessment of benghazi is flawed if that is what he believes. the secretary of state and entire administration mishandled it before and after and during the attack. >> you are written in the book and takes issue with where you made a comment when she was supposed to go to congress and she had f

but as you recall, the president named his cia director, a guy named leon panetta. a man i did not know, even though he had a lengthy washington resumÉ. and he asked me to my utter amazement, to stay on until the white house could find a new candidate. so i wound up staying for close to a year. in that short year, leon panetta, my last cia director and, you know, the briefest-tenured cia director i served under, i came to conclude he was the most effective. reason for that is i've always thought there were three essential elements to being a successful cia director. one, you have to have clout with the white house, with the president. because without that, cia is irrelevant. two, you have to, you have to form a bond of sorts with the cia work force which can be, you know, it's not easy. i mean it's a particular culture. they've been around for, you know generations. and it's sort of a bond that can't be taught, can't be learned, but you have to have that because they have to trust the guy on the seventh floor. the third is to have effective relations or at least dec

this is a group founded by leon panetta's former chief of staff and phillip raines, a man who is described as hillary clinton's, quote, most visible spokesman and guardian much her public persona. when asked for comment on these allegations, mr. morell referred fox news to the cia public affairs office. well, the public is still looking for answers as well, a new fox poll shows 66% want congress to continue the investigation of the benghazi scandal. the turning now to other foreign policy crises where the obama administration has been ineffective, the ukraine, signs of progress tonight after government opposition leaders signed an agreement to form a new government and hold an early election. it is unclear how well the deal will hold, of course. antigovernment demonstrators still demanding president viktor yanukovych's immediate resignation but the developments mark a stunning turn around from just yesterday when clashes left nearly 80 people dead. president obama called his russian counterpart, vladmir putin, shortly after that agreement was signed. the white house says they talked about

this is a group founded by leon panetta's former chief of staff and phillip raines, a man who is described as hillary clinton's, quote, most visible spokesman and guardian much her public persona. when asked for comment on these allegations, mr. morell referred fox news to the cia public affairs office. ll, the plic is still looking for answers as well, a new fox poll sho 66% want congress to continue the investigation of the benghazi scandal. the turning now t oth foreign policy crises where the obama administration has be ineffective, the ukraine, signs of progress tonight after government oosition leaders signed an agreeme to fm a new government and hold anarly election. it is unclear how well the deal will hold, of cours antigovernment demonstrators still demanding preside viktor nukovych's immiate resignation but the development mark a stunning tn around from just yesterday when clashes left nearly 80 people dead. president obama called his russian counterpart, vlmir putin, shortly after that agreement was signed. the white house says they talked about the importance of stablizing ukr

dod, i the at privilege of working with two terrific secretaries of defense, bob gates and leon panetta. i was part of their management team. i saw them a decisions. when you are the general counsel you have purview over the entire department of defense unlike almost everybody else. i was part of the management team. health solved a lot of problems. i was involved in a number of difficult issues. involveded, it national security. i came back to government in february 2009. i have been the eyewitness to many historic events that occurred and were involved in some of the decision-making here in washington. i would say that the thing that comes to mind first when you ask a question like that is i have a passion for the mission. i left government a year ago and was i was done settling back into private life. the president asked me if i would do this job. it ever occur to me that i would be sitting here, that i would be asked to do this job. i have a passion for the mission. i believe deeply in the mission. i want to serve the country. that is why i am here. >> good answer. own shot outget m

bill o'reilly asked him, did secretary of defense leon panetta tell him that night that the attacks were the works of terrorists? mr. president, o'reilly asked that question, and yet the president over and over again refused to answer a simple yes or no, did leon panetta tell him it was the act of terrorists. he did not want to answer that question and indeed, he did not. for those of us that have spent some of our career in a court of law, the technical term for his answer was nonresponsive and were a judge there, he would have directed the president to answer the question that was put to him. nor did the president say one word about why the talking points were scrubbed to eradicate any mention of terrorism and the al qaeda affiliates involved. mr. president, we need accountable. we need accountable for those four brave americans who lost their lives to terrorism. and we need to know why no one has been held accountable in the state department, nor that any of the terrorists who committed that attack have been brought to justice. and, mr. president, said be a adeany, the american pastor

these two issues i think leon panetta appealed to the white house and the dni lost so it was a pretty spectacular loss. he wanted basically the power to appoint station chiefs effectively and the most important person in the country. he wanted that to be news remit. >> he did indeed on this is where the book tries to get into some of the vagaries of the statute in that we didn't really consider or debate very much in 2004 the relationship between the cia and the director of national intelligence however this came to be one of the chief lines in the side of the dni going forward. the blair episode merits aside the issue everyone knew he had fought leon panetta on these two issues and came out on the losing side. people in washington noticed. people notice the new director of national intelligence had lost an important issue and something they had appealed to the white house on and it hurt the dni's authority. >> going forward is this going to be personality dependent depending on who the dni is because he or she will have to and a sense operate by consensus or basically is this it bure

shame on leon panetta.s deal. >> douglass shulman, former irs chief, he was cleared into the white house 157 times, more than any of your cabinet members, more than any other irs guy in the history by far. why was douglass showman here 157 tidges, why? >> mr. shulman as the head of the irs is constantly coming because at the time we were trying to set up the healthcare.gov and -- >> -- what does he have to do with that the irs works as part of the overall healthcare team. i do not recall meeting with him in any meetings that are pretty routine meetings. >> you don't recall seeing shulman what some people are saying is that the irs was used at a local level in cincinnati, maybe other places to go out. >> absolutely wrong. >> how do you know that? because we still don't know what happened there. >> folks have again had multiple hearings on this. these kinds of things keep on surfacing in part because you and your tv station will promote them. >> the fbi continues to investigate the irs situation. so it's not

and there are also questions that bill o'reilly tried to get answers to, for example, about what leon panetta told him on the day of the event itself. there's plenty out there for news people to remain curious about, it's not fox news's fault that not all news media have been as curious about them as ours has. >> on the irs targeting -- the left likes to say, progressive groups were targeted as well, and there's some evidence of that, but the facts show that seven progressive groups are targeted, an average of five additional questions were asked of liberal groups, the liberals were approved at a rate of 100%. conservatives at a rate of 40%. there's a disparity there that bears investigating. my question for you is, we've seen the irs scandal, the benghazi scandal, obama care and all of its problems, and we're seeing a constant deterioration in the trust the american people have for this president. the latest poll puts it at 50/50, it's almost dead even the number of people who trust him. 49%. he used to be almost 60% trustworthy. and the fall keeps on coming. >> people are reluctant to reach

that's why leon panetta, we talk about this in the book, he sought her out early on in the bin ladenwanted her buy-in because he knew she would be a hawk. i think that's a big plus for her going in. >> big factor here is the bill factor. how large does he loom? you've heard rand paul in an interview today talking about lewinsky, talking about the past, calling bill clinton a sexual predator. so that issue is there. but it's also to what extent does he play in a campaign which he did so large before in a potential administration. here's a moment from her 2008 campaign convention speech you write about. while she had been on a mock stage at the convention center, bill had delivered edits. he had ripped up the structure and added some of his own flourishes to her speech. but hillary was having none of it. bill and the set of advisors she had hired from his 1996 campaign had proved disastrous at developing her message and strategy for the campaign. she was the one in the hot seat now. it's my speech, you quote her as saying, she declared as she left to find bill. that's a pretty dramatic

that is why leon panetta wanted her buy in on bin laden. what do you think?: we will see what happens with ukraine. for the u.s., we simply do not have that kind of power we would like to have internationally. there was a time when the u.s. would speak and other nations would respond. i think the american public expects there is something the u.s. can do to affect a situation. really, in terms of affecting foreign politics, often it is a long-term thing we can do through sanctions. it is very hard to do immediately. if you are in the ukraine and fighting for your life are fighting to put on a revolution, what the u.s. says or sanctions might not have any immediate bearing. host: talking about hillary clinton's career and her future with the authors of a new book, "hrc." ,"ie parnes of "the hill jonathan allen from bloomberg. this line from your book on libya. war." was hillary's hert: this could have been crown jewel, republicans think that was the attack they were taking, then benghazi happened. guest: in terms of it being her the presidents., and many of hi

questions o'reilly was asking when did you learn about the health care website problems, what did leon panettal you about that night? he was able to get to the higher ground of making broader points about health care and terrorism but also try to sort of not so slightly blame fox news for these type of questions. bill: it is interesting that perhaps he speaks to the base on a comment like this. this is a strategy within one '2008. he wrote on our website foxnews.com the following: o'reilly was aggressive, president obama did not get rattled. although at certain point he looked peeved. he had a stark choice given the 10 minute time limit, keep interrupting obama or allow him to run out the clock. a lot of reporters tell you when you sit with barack obama, a filibuster ensues, and that is a dangerous area. if you allow that to happen you are cheating the viewers and that is what o'reilly is trying to walk. >> have seen some very good television anchors who let the president run out the clock. when i thought was he ran up to the line of interrupting too much where you look. route, but at the same

. >> reporter: he was asked about benghazi, libya, asking what then defense secretary leon panetta toldim on that day. did he tell, secretary panetta, it was a terrorist attack? >> you know what he told me was there was an attack on our compound -- >> reporter: he didn't use the word terror? >> you know, in the heat of the moment, bill what folks are focused on is what's happening on the ground, do we have eyes on it how can we make sure our -- >> i want to get this on the record. did he tell you it was a terror -- >> and i'm answering your question. what he said to me was we've got an attack on our compound. >> no terror attack? >> we don't know yet who's doing it. understand by definition bill when somebody is attacking our compound -- >> yeah. >>> -- that's an act of terror. >> reporter: the president also denied there were any political motives behind the irs treatment of conservative groups. he told o'reilly these are all settled issues. he accused fox news of keeping them alive. but even so the president said with a big broad smile, he had enjoyed the exchange. charlie, norah? >>

on march 16 2009, 1 of your predecessors leon panetta announced the creation of a director's review group for rendition, detention, and interrogation. to be led by well respected senior cia officer and supervisor -- supervised by senator [inaudible] who passed away. do you know when and why the pen review group was disbanded? >> first of all i respectfully but vehemently disagree with your characterization of the cia's cooperation with this committee. i am fully prepared to come forward to this committee any time it requests my appearance to talk about that study. i think related to the issue that you just raised in terms of questions, all committee members are in receipt of some information i have provided recently to the chairman and vice chairman on this issue. i look forward to addressing these matters with committee at the appropriate time and not at a threat assessment committee. >> i believe that is appropriate. >> it does not fully answer the question and i'm not sure that i do know when and why the group was disbanded. >> i will be happy to address that question at the time when

so hamm goes to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, martin dempsey and leon panetta, he tells panetta, according to him, they go -- both dempsey and panetta go to the white house where mr. panetta later said there was, quote, no question in my mind it was a terrorist attack. so has this kind of been glossed over, what carter hamm has said? he said it's a terrorist attack. the top officials of this country go to the white house, one of them at least saying and believing it was a terrorist attack, and then for 13 days what we get is, it's a dopey movie, a dopey movie, a dopey movie, a dopey movie. >> which was ludicrous from the beginning. i mean, so we're supposed to believe that a group of angry men having watched this youtube video somehow assembled a collection of rpgs and mounted a coordinated attack over a series of hours on a u.s. position? come on. i mean, it just never made any sense. but, again, i'm unsatisfied -- and i think anybody watching this should be -- as to why? why would they go out of their way to tell such an obvious, such a transparent lie? what was the po

dod, i the at privilege of working with two terrific secretaries of defense, bob gates and leon panetta i was part of their management team. i saw them a decisions. when you are the general counsel you have purview over the entire department of defense unlike almost everybody else. i was part of the management team. health solved a lot of problems. i was involved in a number of difficult issues. involveded, it national security. i came back to government in february 2009. i have been the eyewitness to many historic events that occurred and were involved in some of the decision-making here in washington. i would say that the thing that comes to mind first when you ask a question like that is i have a passion for the mission. i left government a year ago and was i was done settling back into private life. the president asked me if i would do this job. it ever occur to me that i would be sitting here, that i would be asked to do this job. i have a passion for the mission. i believe deeply in the mission. i want to serve the country. that is why i am here. >> good answer. own shot outget my

. >> guest: one thing before we continue that is interesting because leon panetta was head of the cia and came to her one day in the situation room and said i really want to talk to you about something. they planned a secret meeting where he came for lunch to the state department. no one knew about it and it wasn't on her schedule. her aides just thought she disappeared for a little while and he actually wanted her i in for bin laden. we think that is a pivotal moment because he saw that she had the so-called bias for action that we talk about. he really wanted her support on this and it was important to him and i think that as a strong moment for her. >> host: she disagrees at the time was defense secretary gates. >> guest: this was someone she really aligned with and they shared lots of opinions that this was where they disagreed. >> guest: vice president biden as well. it's generally veteran of democratic party to be the dove but she was the hawk and national security and biden was the dove. president obama ended up taking a more hawkish position certainly more than more democrats

leon panetta out in the field, the very unit that took out bin laden.ers spoke to special operations and special forces, families both, because they had concerns that they had been outed. about their concerns and worries. >> and we know through military documentation that over 100 taliban moved into the river valley where our son and others lost their lives that night with the express intent of shooting down a nato chopper. out of reallation. >> how rare it is it to have all those special operators on one mission? >> brian, i can't answer that. i don't know how the s.e.a.l.s operate. we have heard a lot of stories, many things. and they're an elite group. you know, they're great men. and the way that they choose -- here's what i'm staying. you couldn't have kept aaron or any of the warriors off the chopper that night. that's why we need to give them the best equipment to operate, the best rules of engagement. that's what they live to do is defeat the enemy. >> on that same line, we have been told by somebody in theater that night that the landing zone w

but as you recall, the president named his cia director, a guy named leon panetta. man i did not know, even though he had a lengthy washington resumÉ. and he asked me, to my utter amazement, to stay on until the white house could find a new candidate. so i wound up staying for close to a year. in that short year, leon panetta, my last cia director and, you know, the briefest-tenured cia director i served under, i came to conclude he was the most effective. reason for that is i've always thought there were three essential elements to being a successful cia director. one, you have to have clout with the white house, with the president. because without that, cia is irrelevant. two, you have to, you have to form a bond of sorts with the cia work force which can be, you know, it's not easy. i mean, it's a particular culture. they've been around for, you know, generations. and it's sort of a bond that can't be taught, can't be learned, but you have to have that because they have to trust the guy on the seventh floor. the third is to have effective relations or at least de

panettaates and leon are backing an effort to get an honor awarded to members of the world were spy agency. have sent aies letter asking members of congress to pass the act, the highest civilian honor bestowed by congress. operations inying asia and europe during the second world war. it was led by general donovan who received the medal of honor for his heroics during world war i. marco rubio is addressing a growing opportunity gap between people with and without advanced educations. he is: for alternatives to four-year colleges and income-based repayment for college loans. he says congress should establish an independent agency to assess free courses offered over the internet as a transferable credits. he senate meets they at 2:00 p.m. eastern and the house in at noon. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> c-span. we bring public affairs events from washington directly to you, putting you in the room at congressional hearings, white house events, briefings, and conferences, and offering complete gavel-to-gavel coverage of the u.s. house, all as a public service of pri

one i brought up about leon pinetta said to him he was told that it was an organized terrorist attack. then he went to the white house i asked president obama did secretary panetta tell you it was a terrorist attack? he didn't answer it i asked twice. >> no. he went on the un, and univision and still talking about the video. >> does your committee have proof secretary of defense panetta told the president it was a terrorist attack? >> we have testimony from general carter ham. >> i mentioned that to the president what you don't have anything from panetta. why not? >> because the question has not been asked. general lindsay gram. >> ham didn't go to the president. he went to pan etta, his boss. he's the key. he's the one. put him under oath. he's not in government anymore. you can pull him n >> i vote for that, absolutely. i'm glad you asked the president directly. that was, that is one of the very specific questions that the president did. >> is the story, this is it. panetta is it. nobody asked him under oath if he told his boss, the president, commander in chief it was a terrorist attack. if panetta says that, all hell breaks loose. and you guys haven't done i