i would put leon panetta in that same class. there aren't a lot of jim bakers and leon panetta around. host: first call from you is david from flemington, new jersey democrats line. our guest chris chiply. david -- chris whipple. caller: i wanted to ask your guest who believes among all chiefs of staff, did the most elegant, successful job under the most arduous circumstances? thank you. guest: thank you for the question. i should say, this is not just a book about policy and about lessons learned. it's a book about 17 living white house chiefs going all the way back to donald rumsfeld. it's a fascinating cast of characters. to answer your question, i would have to say, was james a. baker iii under ronald reagan. as my friend, the legendary former white house producer for cbs used to say, baker had the secret sauce. he was a guy, he was 50-year-old smooth as silk, texas lawyer who was comfortable in his own skin. had nothing to prove. that gave him the confidence to be able to walk into the oval office and confront ronald reagan

leon panetta, thank you very much for joining leon panetta, thank you very much forjoining us.een calling for a special counsel and they got it. republicans, at least the ones on capitol hill seem pretty happy too. so what powers will mr mueller have in this role? a special counsel is a person appointed by head of the justice department, when an investigation by the department itself might pose a conflict of interest, or if it's believed it's in the "public interest" to appoint one. he has the power to initiate investigations, subpoena records and bring criminal charges. robert mueller will also be able to widen his jurisdiction, although he'd have to ask the attorney general for permission to do so. but not everyone thinks this appointment is a good idea. joining us from washington is ron christie, a former adviser to george w bush. why not? it is important to recognise what is going on in the united states government, it was engaged in a counterintelligence operation to ascertain whether or not the russians had on properly influence the election, the appointment of a special

there were people in every meeting who didn't belong there, and leon panetta, the omb director at the time, and irstin who was running the small business administration, were walking in and out and just appalled by this. couldn't believe it. what happened was that a year and a half -- so it wasn't that become been didn't have a chief of staff but he had a guy who wasn't empowered, a., was a close friend and, b., wasn't empowered by clinton to run a tight shipment. a year and a half in bill clinton was dead in the water. consumed by -- remember the silly scandals, the travelgate and. >> white water still going on. >> there was almost an intervention by hillary clinton and al gore and robert reich and they convinced him he had to shake things up, and so they practically kidnapped leann -- leon panetta and he said he found himself in a cabin with bill clinton, hillary clinton, al gore, tipper gore. i knew this wasn't going to be a fair fight. he wanted to be -- he wanted to stay at home. by the time he left camp david he was the chief of staff, and he, with erstiy bowles, turn the white

joining me is leon panetta. former secretary of defense, form he director of the cia, a form he chief of staff to a please lls to deal with a special counsel. by the way, he was always member of counsel. and did i say an aide to a republican president, too? gals to see you. we're going to start in backward chronological order. i'll start first and foremost with the nato speech that the president made and the discomfort that our european allies have. but at the same time, is there any part of what the president did in delivering, i guess, if you wanted to be generous, tough love to natoal pies could be effective? >> at least in my experience, if a president is going to make points that may be uncomfortable with the people you're talking with, you usually make those points in private. not in public. in public you reaffirm the alliance. and i think it would have been better to reaffirm the nato alliance, that we abide by article 5, and make it clear that we stand with the nato alliance and with the history that it

joining us now is leon panetta. he's worn just about every hat in washington including cia director, defense secretary, clinton white house chief of staff, u.s. congressman, office of budget and management. mr. secretary, thanks so much for joining us. >> nice to be with you, wolf. >> nice resume, i must say. let's begin with your reaction to the news that the former fbi director james comey has agreed to testify before the senate intelligence committee as early as next week, the first time since he was fired by president trump. how significant is this upcoming testimony from director comey? >> well, i think it's very significant and very important to the entire administration. he played a key role as fbi director in conducting certainly a preliminary investigation into this whole issue, and he certainly has i think the possibility in his testimony of opening the door to an obstruction of justice charge. we're still a long way from proving that, but if he in fact testifies that the president tried to inhibit and res

leon panetta was described as a guy with an iron first inside a velvet glove. he was gregarious and everybody loved leon but he could lower the boom when he had to. that is a rare combination. but it is something that jim baker had as chief, it is something panetta had, i think jack shares that. you have to be the grownup in the room. it helps obviously to know the hill and you have to be organized and you have to be disciplined and all those things but i think temperament is a big part. >> what about the relationship with the president? do you have to be the president's friend? >> no. denis mcdonough was president obama's last white house chief of staff, very smart, very well educated, soft demeanor. he said to me one time the president and are are not pals. we don't go out and have beers together. i work for him. that was the relationship that i had with president carter. we were friends, yes, but i was serving him. in some respects, the white house chief of staff has a constiuency of one and that is the president. it is the white house chief's duty -- >> don'

leon panetta was chief of staff for bill clinton. he then served as director of the c.i.a. and secretary of defense in the obama administration. secretary panetta, thank you for talking with us. so as somebody who has had a top job, the top job at the white house as chief of staff, as we said at the pentagon and c.i.a., how do you read how this comey episode has unfolded? >> well, it's a very confusing picture obviously, because a number of reasons have been presented as to why it's happened. but, you know, deep down there's no question that however it happened, and for whatever reasons it happened, that this has undermined the credibility of a very vital national security investigation, and somehow that credibility has to be restored. >> woodruff: how has it undermined that credibility? >> it's undermined the credibility because obviously the f.b.i. was investigating the whole issue of russian interference in our election, and despite the various reasons that have been presented, there's no question that the president remains concerned about that russian investigation, and

we're back here with former congressman and cia director leon panetta.ere's what the director said a few days ago during his testimony. >> this is terrible. it makes me mildly nauseous to think we might have had some impact on the election, but honestly it wouldn't change the decision. everybody who disagrees with me has to come at it. huma abedin had hundreds of thousands of e-mails forwarded to her husband to be printed out for the secretary of state. she forwarded hundreds of thousands of information which contained classified information. >> this is what is was said in the hearing. this is what we got a letter of the copy from the u.s. department of justice. the assistant director of office of congressional affairs writes though we don't know the exact numbers, based on its investigation the fbi believes it is reasonable to conclude that most of the e-mails found on mrs. wooen es's laptop in the clinton investigation related to a backupch personal electronic devices with a small number as a result of forwarding to mr. wooen es's laptop. there were 12

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leon panetta searched as secretary, cia director and white house chief of staff. thank you very much for coming on the show. >> nice to be with you. >> first question. what is your response to the breaking news that the white house has reached out to legal help to prepare for possible impeachment proceedings. >> well, it doesn't surprise me. we are witnessing, again, this is probably the third time in my lifetime, a scandal, a huge scandal in washington that is impacting on the president of the united states. it is going to be that our institutions and our leadership in this country and our whole system will be tested to determine whether or not we can with stand the impact of this scandal. it's going to create a lot of consternation and going to put the president in a position where he is going to have to seek outside counsel. >> when you say scandal, what is most concerning to you? what do you mean? >> i think we have a situation where there is a number of issues that broke out not only this week, but the past few weeks that are going to be the subject of an inv

what does the former head of the cia leon panetta make of the string of stories about the white houseis all comes as president trump is set to depart on his first foreign trip. so what can the world expect? we're live in saudi arabia, donald trump's first stop.

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president trump cia director leon panetta released information, you know, that was classified. what do you mean? when? >> in, i believe it was 2014, shared with a hollywood producer about the bin laden raid. you know, the vice chairman from the joint chiefs of staff got in trouble sharing information about nuclear facilities in iran. you know, there was the chief station in afghanistan's name was inadvertently released by the obama administration. when these things have happened, the media yawned, snored. they didn't care. hyperhypocrisy is incredible. collusion in washington are between the media, the democrats and now the deep state which brings into serious question our national security leaks taking place in the white house. >> i hear what you're saying, leon panetta revealed the navy s.e.a.l. unit name. and information spread around u.s. intelligence agencies so that ratchets up the likelihood of leaks. we have this update for you, mark, i'd like your reaction. white house provided a statement on the "new york times" report saying expressed view that general flynn is a dec

. >> jeremy, i heard your former boss, leon panetta tonight talk plainly of this as a scandal. i guess it caught me off guard because that word, while overused for years on a lot of things that didn't frankly match the standard, i guess now fits. from your legal training what should we think about "person of interest" and "white house official" in this case. >> person of interest is more of a term that cops and law enforcement officials use. it's not really a term that prosecutors use. they would normally use the term target or subject of interest. but it indicates that the investigation is very serious. it has reached someone inside the white house. and that person presumably has high level security clearance. if in fact that person is a national security risk because of counter-espionage concerns that person's clearance should be stripped immediately. >> beiana, we were sitting here before air. you heard repetition of the phrase "nut job". we are talking again, love him or hate him, about a guy with bearing of elliot necessary of tv of lore. >> yes. that's right. and i think

washington post he wanted to show the kind of information he's getting as president versus as leon panetta was saying the relationship with this ally versus lives. that's the concern from the intelligence community, is that he revealed too much and, therefore, risks not just the partnership, but the people on the ground who are facing great risk to gain this intelligence. >> jim sciutto thank you for the reporting. i know you are working around the clock for it. thank you all very much. we appreciate it. ahead for us, how do members of the president's own party feel about this intel disclosure? as we said, ben sasse will join us next on all of it. we're on to you, diabetes. time's up, insufficient prenatal care. and administrative paperwork... your days of drowning people are numbered. same goes for you, budget overruns. and rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. we're coming for you, too. for those who won't rest until the world is healthier, neither will we. optum. how well gets done. ...doesn't happen by accident. so i use excedrin.ments from my life. it starts to relieve migraine

while leon panetta appeared from cia headquarters nearby in langly, virginia.nd of split screenplay by play narration of the mission as it unfolded. the president has always sat here at the head of the table, no mistaking that. and that day as the meeting went on, as all of the participants were watching the video screen at the other end of the room, at one point the president got up from here, went out here, and into the small lobby of the situation room, and then turned left into this small conference room, a room that was never built for as many people as ended up in here that day. the president took his chair in the corner, all the other participants filled in, and here's what they were watching. it is a room with two flat screen tvs, in one of them was the incoming video feed live from a drone parked above that compound, showing the military action in progress. what made you get up and come in here? >> what happened was we were monitoring the situation in there, but most of the information was being fed from this room. and once the helicopters had taken of

i spoke with leon panetta, cia director and secretary of defense. etary panetta, this evolving time line from the white house, does it make any accepts to you, how you go from the white house, i guess on tuesday saying it was all about rod rosenstine sending this memo, and the president agreeing with it, and now the president admitti inting he had planned to do this all along? >> it's obviously very confused. and it just shows a lot of disorganization within the white house. and the relationship between the president and his subordinates. because if you're going to take a major step like firing the fbi director, you would assume that everybody would get together, and agree on some common talking points. that obviously has not been the case. and i just think it raises even greater questions in the credibility of the investigation into the russian situation. >> you know, in the past, when -- as a reporter, when you say, well, the white house says, that sentence, the white house says, that's supposed to have some credibility to it, some meaning to it. t

joining us to share his perspective is leon panetta who served as secretary, cia director and white housechief of staff. thank you very much for coming on the show. >> nice to be with you. >> first question. what is your response to the breaking news that the white house has reached out to legal help to prepare for possible impeachment proceedings. >> well, it doesn't surprise me. were witnessing, again, this is probably the third time in my lifetime, a scandal, a huge scandal in washington that is impacting on the president of the united states. it is going to be that our institutions and our leadership in this country and our whole system will be tested to determine whether or not we can with stand the impact of this scandal. it's going to create a lot of consternation and going to put the president in a position where he is going to have to seek outside counsel. >> when you say scandal, what is most concerning to you? what do you mean? >> i think we have a situation where there is a number of issues that broke out not only this week, but the past few weeks that are going to be the subj

i think leon panetta supports that as do others.: you are in afghanistan after about 12 and a half months the president said i would like you to come back and be the head of the cia. doing that meant you had to give up your military career. gen. petraeus: i did not have to, but i chose to. i thought in fact -- the president and i talked about that when he made the decision to nominate me for that. and i agreed that that would be the best approach. i thought it was very important not to have folks think i was going to turn this place into a military headquarters. i literally showed up the first day and said i would do that. with no one but the security guards -- david: was it emotional to give up your military career at that point? gen. petraeus: it is always to -- always emotional to take the uniform off for the last time. it was a wonderful retirement parade and experience. but you have the prospect of this extraordinary new opportunity. it was very exciting. the cia is an incredible group of the men and women, the silent warriors,

bob baer, a lot was just said by the former cia director, leon panetta there. he says the president can't just say what he wants. but in fact, legally speaking, he can. i mean, he can share this information if he wants to, bob, and you may not buy the justification, but the white house, the president himself is justifying it saying that he wanted the russians to know this, basically to help in the fight against isis and to keep airlines safe. at the end of the day, isn't that the commander in chief's determination? >> of course. he's the commander in chief. he can declassify what he wants simply by his signature, talking to people, or putting it out on the internet, but the fact is, what would we say if the president of the united states declassifi declassified, for instance, the legacy codes, our nuclear codes, or identified our agents in moscow or all communications we intercept? he can do anything he wants, but he could do major damage when it's not coordinated with the intelligence community and there's no reason for it other than bragging to an adversary l

for more on the reaction to this week, my colleague kathy k spoke with leon panetta for her program,0 days plus." kathy: as you look back at the last 10 days, have had the firing of mr. comey, the revelation that donald trump give secrets to russian officials. and reports that he tried to interfere into the investigation. how damaging is all of this for the president? >> i do think there is any question, but a number of serious issues have been raised by these incidents involving the possible violations of law. whether it relates to the flynn investigation or the comey oring, the issue of whether not the president released classified information to a foreign adversary, all of those are issues that need to be investigated. the deputy attorney general did appoint bob mueller to act as special counsel in this issue. that is of some comfort to all of us in this country. katty: mr. panetta, it looks like mr. trump protected mr. flynn, put him in as national security advisor, out of some sense of loyalty. he felt he had a right to interfere into the probe by firing mr. comey and putting so

leon panetta said the credibility of the office is at stake here. do you agree? >> that's absolutely right. the toll of this disclosure, if it was described accurately in the "washington post," is not the frayed alliance with this key ally whichever it is. it is the more collective, chilling toll that these reports will have on our intelligence relationships around the globe. our information sharing is predicated on the fact that we share with you if you share with us. and with a reciprocal understanding, with our partners and allies and even some adversaries, frankly, that we'll protect and safeguard each other's information. now that this story is out there and if president trump did what he is alleged to have done, our partners, our allies and adversaries will look at us and question if we're able to protect their information. they could make the calculation that it's not worth taking the risk to share information with us. >> let me ask you this, ned. the president does have broad authority when it comes to handling classify information. why is that not a cred

he then served the senior military assistant to secretaries of defense robert gates and leon panetta until promoted for a fourth star and given command of united states southern command in which he commanded until january of 2017. he was then confirmed as department of homeland security secretary on january 20th, 2017. mr. secretary, thank you very much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to be with us today. we look forward to your remarks and if time permits we'll sit down for a quick discussion afterwards. please welcome secretary of homeland security john kelly. [ applause ] >> well, in the interest of time and i have a really hard stop in about 25 minutes, honor to be here. i -- in the 39 months that i was the head of united states southern command, i learned a huge amount about latin american general and the difficulties, problems, challenges of central america in particular. and because of the nature of the job there, that is to say there was very little likelihood of any kind of a state-on-state war, but it was all about as i looked at it, all about partnering with

just before we went on air tonight, i spoke to leon panetta.stein sending this memo and the president glagreeing with i and now the president admitting he planned to do it all along. >> it's obviously very confused, and it just shows a lot of disorganization within the white house. and the relationship between the president and his subordinates, because if you're going to take a major step like firing the fbi director, you would assume that everybody would get together and agree on some common talking points. that obviously has not been the case. and i just think it raises even greater questions about the credibility of the investigation into the russian situation. >> you know, in the past, when as a reporter, when you say, well, the white house says, that sentence "the white house says," that's supposed to have some credibility, some meaning to it. it now seems like, tuesday the white house is saying one thing, but then wednesday, or the surrogates from the white house are saying one thing, but the next day the president says something complet

i was just wondering whether leon pa netta, i was just wondering whether leon panetta, talking aboutthere are very few people in the oval office right now who will speak truth to power and say, mr president, you cannotjust say, mr president, you cannotjust say or tweet what you want because it demeans the office and it demeans you. we know that the president's advisers, some of them have told him to stop treating. this is causing problems for him. we have seen that his own supporters say to stop tweeting and they don't think it is helpful. it is one thing we thought general webmaster would be willing to do ina general webmaster would be willing to do in a way that general flynn was not. we have after the filing of james comey that there might be a staff shake—up and they would try to do things differently. what do you think will be the result in the white house of this incident? there was continuing top today are the big shake—up coming. the problem is that the president, it has not been his staffers but his own tweets, so i'm not sure about changing the secretary or his strategist i

a year and a half before he learned that he had to empower a white house chief in the form of leon panetta around. jimmy carter took two and a half years to realize he needed to appoint a chief of staff. it not clear that donald trump would recognize rock bottom if he saw it. >> yeah shane does the staff matter or is it all good with the man at the top in the white house. >> to some extent it goes to the man at the top. you talk last week he had frustrations about the communications plan around his firing of the fbi director. but it's hard to blame the communications staff when the ultimate story is the president decided to fire the fbi director who was investigating some associates from the campaign. they can't spin thatway in way makes it positive story. >> he says you can't listen to them because they don't always have the information he does. >> he went and undermined them they went and said it was the deputy attorney general who is recommendation moved the president to make the action. two dates later he said no i already decided when i got the recommendation. not only that it was my

despite what leon panetta said. plenty of leaders, and my personal experience, however been attacked by their own officials, by their diplomats going too far in meetings, giving things away they shouldn't of done. it's what happens. let's remember he's not experienced at this. completely overstated and part of the story, the general story going on here, which is that the establishment don't like the fact that you've got someone who is chosen to lead them who hasn't done this before and doesn't do things the way they've always been done. >> bret: but this was the russians, a.b. our geopolitical fall, if you look at a number of different spots. he can try to make relationships, but all of the stories together the deal with russia and then to see the images and get the news, it was a combined kind of big shoe to drop. >> optics are not overrated. they have mattered for a long time for a reason. it was the day after the comey firing, and putin asked for this meeting. it didn't happen under bush or obama. immediately the

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it makes me think of what leon panetta said here.said what would you do in a situation like this. he said you go to the president and tell him don't do this. this is a problem. he says you are disloyal. you are out. now what? then you leave. duty is to the american constitution and the american people. the question is what were people choosing as priority? staying in place or pleasing the president? panel, thank you. all of the drama in the white house rattling wall street. stocks took a dive. dollar weakening. this rally was the trump bump. is it over or is this just jittery nerves by the mueller announcement? we have details ahead. wake up skin. neutrogena® hydro boost hydrating tint. the first water gel foundation with hyaluronic acid it plumps, quenches... delivers a natural, flawless look. this is what makeup's been missing. neutrogena® i count on my dell small for tech advice. with one phone call, i get products that suit my needs and i get back to business. ♪ ♪ introducing new depend silhouette active fit, with a thin design f

despite what leon panetta said. plenty of leaders, and my personal experience, however been attacked by their own officials, by their diplomats going too far in meetings, giving things away they shouldn't of done. it's what happens. let's remember he's not experienced at this. completely overstated and part of the story, the general story going on here, which is that the establishment don't like the fact that you've got someone who is chosen to lead them who hasn't done this before and doesn't do things the way they've always been done. >> bret: but this was the russians, a.b. our geopolitical fall, if you look at a number of different spots. he can try to make relationships, but all of the stories together the deal with russia and then to see the images and get the news, it was a combined kind of big shoe to drop. >> optics are not overrated. they have mattered for a long time for a reason. it was the day after the comey , and putin asked for this meeting. it didn't happen under bush or obama. immediately the nsa n

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. >> reporter: today former cia director leon panetta slammed trump for disclosure. >> the president of the united states cannot just do or say or speak whatever the hell he wants. that's just irresponsible. >> reporter: i reached out to the israeli ambassador to the u.s. ron durmer and said israel has full confidence in our intelligence-sharing relationship with the united states and looks forward to deepening that relationship in the years ahead with president trump. myself and my colleagues have spoken to foreign diplomats, allies of the u.s., who are concerned about how this intelligence, the most secret intelligence is talked about by the president, an ongoing worry that we've heard about before and those concerns deeper now. wolf? >> indeed. all right. thanks very much. jim sciutto reporting. joining us now a key member of both the intelligence and foreign relations committee senator james risch of idaho. thanks for joining us. >> spoil alert. i take a little different view than the interviews you've done so far. >> well, let's get to those different perspectives. let me ask yo

leon panetta came in and turned that white house around and i think clinton would have been a one-term president if he hadn't. it took jimmy carter two and a half years to figure it out. he needed to have a formal white house chief of staff. i was doing an event yesterday in chicago with bill daley, obama's second chief and george h.w. pushes white house chief sam skinner. skinner said something that i thought was interesting about all this. he said you know it's like alcoholism, every president has got to hit rock bottom and they do. the question is you know right now would donald trump recognize rock bottom? [laughter] >> would the ad to joe's question quickly. yes, joe it's doable because it has to be done. i will always remember very early in the administration of president was having a meeting with some of the most distinguished senators in the united states senate. i won't name names here but both democrat and republican. they were all men and they were all men whose names and reputations i knew of course. as a student of government i had read about them and followed the news. th

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we heard from leon panetta today, former defense secretary. amy, let me play this for you. >> the problem is, obviously presidents can do whatever they want. but what is the damage from that? it's that this country may cut off any kind of intelligence provided to the united states on very sensitive issues that relate to the national security in this country. that's the damage that can be done here. and the president needs to understand that this is not a joke. this is serious business that relates to the security of this country. >> and amy, you know how republicans and democrats, they are criticizing and questioning whether the president of the united states truly understands the gravity of his job. what do you think? >> i think that is a legitimate question at this point. it's more -- it is, of course, the security of the united states because we rely on our allies around the world to give us information. if we can't show at the highest levels of government that we can be trusted to safeguard that information to use it appropriately and to l

the discussion now jeremy bash, an msnbc national security analyst and former chief of staff to leon panettathe cia and defense department. and back with us, michael isikoff. jeremy, what do you make of this report? when they are describing the person as a person close to the president, they're trying to narrow the list of who that might be. >> yeah, lawrence, it's a little unclear from the reporting exactly which individual it is. also, the term "person of interest" is a little curious. that's not really a term that prosecutors tend to use. it's more of a term that cops or other law enforcement officials use when they're basically saying we're looking at you. i think a more technical term from a prosecutorial standpoint would be a target or a subject of an investigation. but clearly what it indicates is the fbi and the federal officials who are looking into this matter believe that somebody working inside the white house, working on the senior team has a lot of information that is relevant to the investigation and that their conduct may be concerning, may be unlawful. and i think the most i

national security analysts, jeremy bash, the former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon to leon panetta, and ned price, a former cia analyst. first to you, kristen. you and your team at the white house breaking the story today. what do we know about president obama's warning to president-elect trump? >> andrea, as you said, this occurred during that 90-minute meeting that they had here at the oval office the thursday after president trump was elected. and based on our conversations with three former obama officials, the president expressed concerns on two levels. one, about mike flynn's judgment as well as his temperament. and that former president -- well, president-elect trump, i should say, at the time, listened. he was also apparently warned about north korea. that's something that has been reported on more broadly. now, i asked the trump white house about this. i spoke to a number of officials here. they're downplaying this conversation, but they're not denying the fact that this conversation occurred. one official made the point that president-elect trump wasn't particularly surpr

as leon panetta said just an hour or so ago on cnn. >> do you think this is incompetency? that whatever it is, incompetence, or lack of truthfulness, will be corrected. and i say that as a democrat who believes strongly that there must be an independent prosecutor to make sure that the truth is uncovered and that people who colluded with the russians, whoever they are, are held accountable, because the russians need to be made to pay a price, and so do the people who helped them. because the russians will do it again. they tried to get into the vote-counting. and they'll do it in 2018, and so will the people who colluded and helped them, if they are not made to pay a price. >> and the american people want you guys, all of you, to check your politics and your party at the door. and it doesn't seem that anybody is doing that s. >> that's why i hope my republican colleagues will listen to their constituents. >> thank you. >>> when we come back, new details about what the president said to james comey. the two telling very different stories about a dinner where the president a

as leon panetta said just an hour or so ago on cnn. >> do you this i this is incompetency?is, incompetence, or lack of truthfulness, will be corrected. i say that as a democrat who believes strongly that there must be an independent prosecutor to make sure that the truth is uncovered, and that people who colluded with the russians, whoever they are, are held accountable. because the russians need to be made to pay a price. and so do the people who helped them. because the russians will do it again. thried to get into the vote counting. and they'll do it in 2018. and so will the people who colluded and helped them. if they are not made to pay a price. >> the american people want you guys, all of you to check your politics and your party at the door. it doesn't seem that anybody is doing that. >> and that's why my hope is that my republican colleagues will listen to their constituents. >> thank you. a pleasure, sir. >>> when we come back, new details about what the president said to james comey, the two telling very different stories about a dinner where the president asked i