♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don't let me die girl don't let me die don't let me go ♪ ♪ don't let me die't let me die baby ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jay: bobby brown! nice job, man. >> how you doing, brother? >> jay: nice job. nice job. i want to thank my guests -- joel mchale, jarod miller. of course, bobby brown. tomorrow night, hugh laurie will be here. but jimmy fallon's happening right now. jimmy, take it. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> from studio 6b in rockefeller center, the national broadcasting company presents -- tonight's guests are -- and featuring the legendary roots crew. and here he is -- jimmy fallon! [ cheers and applause ] captions paid for by nbc-universal television -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: ah, thank you, thank you very much. i feel the love! thank you so much. welcome to "late night with jimmy fallon," everybody. we have fun tonight. [ cheers ] hey, here's some 2012 election news. a new poll found that mitt romney is actually ahead of president obama among female voters. which explains obama's new slogan, "i'm barack

♪ don't let me die got nothing left ♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don't let me die girl don't let me die m holding on to these memories that's the only way that i'll survive ♪ ♪ my biggest fear got the best of me yeah ♪ ♪ 'cause i should have put down my pride oh oh oh oh ♪ ♪ oh oh oh oh oh oh ooh baby oh oh oh ♪ ♪ feels like i'm holding my breath don't let me die girl ♪ ♪ can't keep holding my breath don't let me die baby baby don't let me ♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don't let me die girl don't let me die ♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don't let me die girl don't let me die baby baby don't let me ♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don't let me die girl don't let me die whoo ♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don't let me die girl don't let me die don't let me go ♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don't let me die girl don't let me die don't let me die baby ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jay: bobby brown! nice job, man. >> how you doing, brother? >> jay: nice job. nice job. i want to thank my guests -- joel mchale, jarod miller. of course, bobby brown. tomorrow night, hugh laurie will be here. but jimmy fallon's happening r

let me go don't let me die girl don't let me die girl don't let me die ♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don'tt me die girl ♪ ♪ don't let me die girl don't let me die ♪ >> don't let me die ♪ baby. >> bobby brown. thank you. we will have one more song from bobby a little bit later. but first, your local news. >> live, local, latebreaking. this is wbal-tv 11 news in baltimore. >> good morning. i am lisa robinson. one man is dead while the woman recovers from her head injuries after her boyfriend reportedly attacked her and then held her captive in a northeast baltimore home. that happened sunday afternoon at fenwick ave. after a standoff, the suspect reportedly shot himself. police say he >> hot and humid weather to the holiday weekend and a possibility for shower or thunderstorm hit 80's for the next couple of days. >> we are back her

governor dean, let me quote you something from peggy noonan. she wrote in the "wall street journal--" and i'm quoting now-- she's talking about the president. she said the president has not only has nothing to say. he's actually become boring. how as a democrat would you respond to that? >> i think that's just silly. the fact of the matter is the united states is much better positioned in terms of our foreign security than we have been in a long time. osama bin laden is dead. we have our troops out of iraq. our troops are coming out of afghanistan. these are things that are important to the united states. secondly, there have been four million new jobs added since barack obama took over the presidency. now there's been some loss in the public sector, so the tea party people ought to be happy. in fact, government is shrinking. i think we've made some real progress. we have two thoughtful, sensible justices on the supreme court, no more right wing extreme people. we have a medical system, while more complex than i think would have been desirable,

let me go back end up in let me go back to london let me go back to one here well what is the risk factor of making a mistake miscalculation here because you keep reading for months on end now you know what's the window of opportunity to attack iran i mean it's all over the place ok what is the level of miscalculation here when we were moving away from these talks in baghdad. no i just going to return to just a couple of points of thoughts i want to show them so there is the there is a debate over the whole issue of resupply and i think both sides haven't really a creator what that means and i think iran has one basically conception of what to resupply city is and obviously the p five plus one particular united states has another idea of what resources as far as i can see cathy ashton has sort of gone leaps and bounds to actually accommodate the iranians i saw like just in recent baggage she was all but wearing a basically a montoya like a long coat so there will be no offense to islamic sensibilities and as far as i know from what i hear from european devices or they are being ext

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let me shut this off. nope. it's my wife. she'll have to wait. it seems to me after 3 1/2 years it would seem he could at least recommend somebody so the vet progress says could start. but to wait for 3 1/2 years, and to know the costs that were involved and an awful lot of people said there's ban lot of waste, fraud, and abuse in iraq and afghanistan. it just seems they would have had somebody all over that instead of asking for money and spending the money without proper oversight. go ahead. >> i think we can all agree that acting i.g.s do a very, very good job, these positions should be filled as speedily as possible. i think that absolutely goes without saying. >> if you were talking to the president, i always frame my comments on the floor like this, because we can't talk to the president, but if i were talking to the president, you would say you ought to listen to mrs. fong, because this should be done and should be done very quickly. mr. miller, anybody else have any comments? listen, i'm awfully glad you folks got to see me. it's been a bi

let me go back to the original point, mark, when you talk about when he said that mr. gingrich should just embrace mr. romney, eventually he will have to get there. when he does, he will have a problem cause of all of the things he said through the primary. let me remind you and our viewers about what he will have to overcome before he does that embrace out of his own mouth. >> the romney machine can drive downturnout, run over opponents with negative adds, it doesn't seem capable of inspiring positive turnout, and the result is worrisome if you're thinking about the fall campaign. >> is he still the most anti-immigrant candidate? >> i think of the four of us, yes. >> are you calling mitt romney a liar? >> yes. >> this is an ad released by the obama campaign. so clearly the obama campaign is going to use this, and clearly as newt tries to do his moonwalk toward embracing romney, he will be facing the fact that the public and the voter wills be reminded by his own words and tape of what he said about willard mitt romney. >> that's right, and team obama will be reminding

let me start off and let's do this informally. let me start off with an ethical question. and i noticed, dr. lessig, you deal with ethics. i think the average american would be extremely upset to know that people are dying not because we don't know how to treat those people -- that's one sad aspect of life -- but that they can't afford what is, in fact, a minimal cost in terms of the real production of the product to save their lives. it's like somebody over there dying and nobody is going out and reaching them a hand and bringing them in. it's like they're drowning in a swimming pool. what are the ethical implications of that? >> of course, i agree that there's a significant ethical question raised by the problem you described as somebody not voluntarily stepping forth and saving a drowning child. but i think this problem is actually worse because, as jamie was just emphasizing, the government is intervening in this market already. its intervention is in the form of an exclusive right called a patent. the consequence of that intervention is to produce a market where only

let me give you an example. if i put numbers in like this, 87% the speed of light, i put in there 0.87c and do that, it turns out my time will be twice. i'll observe things take twice as long a time, okay? now let's suppose, i travel relative to you guys at 87% the speed of light. and if you guys watch my watch undergo its second-hand thing, you guys will see my watch taking twice as long to make one complete turn. you hear what i'm saying? you'll see it stretched out by 2. now travel with me. and we'll watch. now we're going at 87% the speed of light, you and i together. you look at my watch. you see any funny business? what's v? - zero - zero. because the observed, the watch. the observer, there is no relative speed between the observer and the observed. get it? so you in the rocket ship notice nothing unusual if you travel along with the watch. then v is zero in this equation. and if v is zero, then this term is zero. what's 1 take away zero? 1. what's the square root of 1? 1. and how do your times compare? t

she said, well, let me tell you, when she was mad, she'd call me edward. when she wasn't mad, it was babe. so i knew she was in a good mood because she called me babe. so she said, babe, let me tell you something. your father wasn't in the first world war, but let me tellou, that son of a bitch is gassed. i said, well, i didn know. and not knowing, i'm 9 years old. i said did he work for the gas company? "you're like your father." i'm like, well, the one day -- this is true, what i'm tlling you. my father was out at the republican club all night. he come home about 4:00 ie morning. and we had all just come back from mass. i was sitting at the breakfast table, and we're almost finished, and my dad come downstairs, and my mother's in the kitchen. and he said, ann. myother said, yeah, joe. this fish is cold. he always ate sea bass in the morning. this fis is cold so my youngest brother said to him, dad, you were out at the cl till 3:00 or 4:00 this morning. we heard you come in. my mother didn't say nothing. he said, ann. she said joe, i'lle right in. and she

let me simplify them. one is instead of building your own data center which companies would do 10 years ago and build your own computer room at generators and air conditioning, you use an outsourced professional data center. that is one move to the court, which is one move to the crowd. the second model, which you have actually used to set up a mass of private club, where you can now provision servers on demand for your constituents within the city. in the context of a government with the compliance issues and security issues and mission critical services which you overlay, that is quite an achievement. so that is the second model which you have embarked on. the third model is clearly the public crown. he made a decision to move some of your data to a public cloud -- e-mail. if you talk about the decision process which led to selecting each of them, your concerns, your challenges, and the economics behind each of those models, i think it would be very beneficial. >> a cake, well, our decision to leverage s

so let me go back to reality. >> let's go back to auschwitz. >> you asked me whether i can tell what it was like in auschwitz. >> can you convey it? >> number one, how much time have i got? >> we're going to keep it short. so you have to do the condensed auschwitz version which isn't easy i know. >> the reason i'm asking, it's very difficult or practically impossible to tell you in the few minutes what auschwitz was like. let me just say in general, i don't know how many you people saw movies about the holocaust, how many books you were reading, what you know about the holocaust and what you know about auschwitz. in general, the former chancellor of germany, helmut kohl on the 50th anniversary of the liberation of auschwitz says auschwitz is the darkest chapter in german history. even for me, for one that was living in auschwitz, living in auschwitz, existing in auschwitz, it's impossible to describe even if you'll give me the rest of the evening of what a death camp -- you must remember auschwitz was not only a concentration camp. it was a death camp. auschwitz was one of six death

let me give you an example. if i put numbers in like this, 87% the speed of light, i put in there 0.87c and do that, it turns out my time will be twice. i'll observe things take twice as long a time, okay? now let's suppose, i travel relative to you guys at 87% the speed of light. and if you guys watch my watch undergo its second-hand thing, you guys will see my watch taking twice as long to make one complete turn. you hear what i'm saying? you'll see it stretched out by 2. now travel with me. and we'll watch. now we're going at 87% the speed of light, you and i together. you look at my watch. you see any funny business? what's v? - zero - zero. because the observed, the watch. the observer, there is no relative speed between the observer and the observed. get it? so you in the rocket ship notice nothing unusual if you travel along with the watch. then v is zero in this equation. and if v is zero, then this term is zero. what's 1 take away zero? 1. what's the square root of 1? 1. and how do your times compare? t

let me go to evan.re three ways to do this, the states could rule it's a right, the supreme court could make the decision, or voters could make the decision. what do you think should be done, evan? >> well, ted is exactly right, that the constitution affords every american the freedom to marry, and that's the same freedom gay people are invoking, the same as marriage in the past invoked it. but the president is right, that the way we get through is through a patchwork of struggles. some states get there faster, other states fight it, they debate, and it takes the court to encourage it. >> what do you think it will take for this country to vote on equality? >> if we do our work in the next 10 to 20 to 50 years ago. ted, who spoke passionately as a president and an american, and thanks to president obama. >> let me ask you about the politics of this. if this becomes a partisan, romney voted against it. if this goes into the ballot box in november, will that advance the cause of state-by-state action or de

let me show you. a baseball pitcher at the top of the tower throws a rock, throws a rock straight out. and it turns out the tower is five meters tall. and it turns out the rock thrown as fast as the baseball pitcher can throw it goes 25 meters downrange. your question is this, and usually i would give you a weekend to think about it. what is the speed of the ball to do such a thing? think. hint, we're throwing it sideways now. hint, the speed of anything is the distance it goes divided by the time it takes. without yelling out the answer, is there anyone that has an answer? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, let's get two more, 9, 10. 10 people have an answer, 40 people have no answer, not yet. let's let the equation guide our thinking, gang. how fast is distance over time? the pitcher is throwing the ball horizontally. are we given the horizontal distance that the ball goes? yes, we are. and that distance is what? twenty five meters. are we given the time that the ball is in the air? no. therefore, the problem

let me try to get further in that. because some of the argument from senator toomey and others, a notion that somehow this is going to interfere with the freedom to create new apps and so on and so forth. i just don't see that. you know, consumers choosing how their information is going to be managed is not going to affect what people are going to offer. they're going to offer it with protections. i would assume. but let me ask specifically the other two witnesses. what other privacy principles, other than just this idea of transparency and choice? there are other privacy principles at stake here, like data retention limits, for instance. or, you know, purpose specification, et cetera. can you talk about the -- either of you, sort of what the breadth of interests are here that go beyond just the transparency choice? >> i'm -- well, i -- senator kerry, as i said in my remarks to senator toomey, we can't depend just on notice and choice. you know, that is part of the problem with the existing system. the principles that

it's just, you know, let me rephrase it, bill. people would perceive you as coming from a law and order perspective. robin, they look at you as coming it from the faith and the human rights perspective. here you are, two people, that, you know, with that different viewpoint wind up at a very similar place. given that -- i don't know if you guys ever met before or had ever heard each other's views before. it's one of the things i kind of hope, because when i decided to bring you to the panel, i was hoping i was going to get this kind of different perspective at winding up the at the same place. does hearing each other's perspectives encourage you or give you a little -- maybe for lack of a better word hope that there are practical solutions that people on both sides of the political spectrum could bring together and solve this rather than just having this persistent, continuing argument are you for or against sb1070? is securing the border -- must we secure the border first? >> i think that by having this conversation in this forum

let me, general, let me go to you. you know where i am going. i want to talk to you about the air force base. as the you know, there is an effort to relocate that. we have had conversation. and my big concern is based on the volume of movement of civilian force. these are my word. i see this as kind of a back door brac, without all the public process and the need. here is the real question. what i ask every one, every meeting i have. if you are the air force and wearing anything that indicates such you get these questions and i look for the answers. did the air force conduct a comprehensive analysis and assessment tole v lle validate cost savings. five years it is $169 million. when i say comprehensive, not just for the fiscal year '13. but for the spread. and then other services that may be affected? example a is joint training. and mobility center that the army uses to move people, the striker force. they use it. it is on air force base. air force base personnel participate in that effort. when you reduce down the force. the army is going to h

let me ask you this.tax rate than blue color workers, does that both you as well? >> i am bothered by it, i can't tell you how bothered buy it i am. i'm tired of subsidies enincentives. unfortunately president barack obama talked about doing more incentives and subsidies in his speech a couple months ago. we need to get rid of this tax code because it's wrong. it's not about fair. the world is not fair, we know that. but there is right and wrong. so we need to replace the tax code work toward the fair tax, flat tax, the 9-9-9 plan. we need to encourage small and middle businesses that can't pay the taxes. >> you supported cain, but now you support romney. romney pays about 13.9% in taxes, he has two degrees from harvard, so he doesn't represent what yor talking about nor does heed advocate that, right? >> i'm not here to talk about mitt romney. he can talk about what he wants to do himself. he will be the gop presidential candidate and yes i will get behind him. herman cain was a good and solid man that w

let me finish let me finish let me finish. everything that i know everything that i know i've learned from other human beings and converse lee i teach other human beings which is say that we as human beings are inherently reflexive creatures now to try to implement a system of economics or a system of politics that dismisses that reflexivity just doesn't make any sense right what kind of ethic do we want to live by that we're not going out of the thought of such this or an ethic of care ok rachel go ahead jump in so not because it's you know it's you know being as caring one another that's the way i suppose you know the public their friends continue rachel i really i care for now i think that's a no i just don't need the government to put money in my pocket. i don't and it's not what i say and i you know i don't know there has a gun on me it's just that i was i was among the tradeoffs are the trade off is that when i accept money from the government there's a there's an inherent trade of freedom on that i somehow there's eithe

let me just suggest i'm also an accountant so ok interest is in helping governments be wiser managers what i call a well being balance sheet right now we are operating the economies without a balance sheet we use an income statement called the g.d.p. but really there's no kind of accounting for the assets the human the social and natural capital that actually underpin wellbeing so that's what i'm arguing for and working with governments particularly local governments and showing how the chief financial officer can start to look at investment in wellbeing assets we know that we know the detractors to well being we know the things that create better conditions for all being so let us invest in the asset classes that actually give the best opportunity for wellbeing and the fair distribution of wellbeing across the community the idea of you know the issue of subjective happiness and my perception of happiness which changes day to day. you know i'm not i'm not totally convinced that's particular relevance to policymakers and it's interesting to maybe have the conversation cross your cross

let me get back to robert reich and this question of populism. i know you're a populist, i know you believe in it, and i just wonder why we're seeing this fight. it looked to me like a couple things happened last sunday. cory booker obviously wanted to differentiate himself from the president. he did so effectively. but he did so by undermining the president's main campaign argument. i want to ask you if you think it's a smart argument on the democratic side, that fairness cuts with voters? >> i think it does. again, chris, if it is linked up with growth, as it must be. because the only reason and the only way we can get growth back in this country is if we have a fair distribution of income and wealth in this country. and most people looking at the why we have such a sluggish recovery now understand the problem is on the demand side. it's not the supply side. it's not because of corporations don't have tax cuts and it's not because the wealthy don't have the tax cuts. it's because the middle class doesn't have the income they need to provide adeq

let me also say that the russian missions are highly sophisticated and this system does not work against the highly sophisticated missile. so, why are we spending the money? i'll let those of you that vote for this answer that question. i think we ought to be concerned about the deficit. and we ought not unnecessarily spend defense money. with that i yield back the the time that was kindly given to me. >> gentleman yields back his time. chair now yields to mr. lanborne, the gentleman from colorado for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i could not disagree more with mr. garamendi. heard some of the same briefings, although we haven't been there for all of the briefings, unfortunately. yes, there would be an expense to this. but the alternative would be much more expensive. and we all know that iran is not capable today of this kind of threat, but i think we should all agree that they are working to achieve the capability of having nuclear weapons and having interballistic missiles. they have tested intercontinental ballistic missiles. they are buried in deep bunkers trying to deve

but bill clinton, let me show you this. le perfectly willing to let his wife run, although he thinks she's sincere. let me show you what he said. >> and i believe that she's being absolutely honest with you when she says she doesn't think she'll go back into politics. whether she does or not, who knows what will happen. if she comes home and we do this foundation stuff the rest of our lives, i'll be happy. he changes her mind and decides to run, i'll be happy. >> so she is sincere. i think that she means it. come home and rest and we'll talk about it, hillary. that's how i read that one. what do you think, david? >> well, i think four years is a long time. hillary clinton is not likely to serve in a second obama administration. so either way, whether romney is elected or obama is re-elected she'll have a good four years off to miss politics. her stature has only increased during these past few years. she's much more popular across the board now than when she first ran for president. so for her, i think it's a real possibilit

let me just make--let me just make two further points. he says this is an issue of judgment about what steps to take. let us examine briefly what the deputy leader of the labour party's judgment was. she was asked very specifically, you call for the secretary of state's resignation. within 23 minutes of the evidence being provided to the leveson inquiry. she was asked, did you read that evidence? she said no, i didn't need to. why didn't you need to she was asked? because i heard the evidence of james murdoch. that's it. he is not the arbitor of standards in the ministerial code. it is a serious issue, but it is not as serious as the jobs, the debt that we have to deal with. it is time that we focused on that. let me say this to the right honorable gentlemen endlessly questioning the integrity of someone when you don't have the evidence is bad judgment, rotten politics, and plain wrong. we have learned something about the labor leaders today, and i think it's something that we'll hughes " --ghes " order. order, order. i hope the prime mini

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besides, let me see what you guys have. >> you know, i'm leaving. ter school, alice and delores park thinking about human behavior. >> i don't know what people want to -- from me, for real. i have to say i think people just want me to be perfect. but you know what? i am capable of doing anything. it doesn't matter who i am or the way i look. what matters is the effort. i will study more. >> alice studied hard. she gets automatic a's. she's on the honor roll! -- she gets all a's. she's on the honor roll. >> oh, my god. i can't believe it? you see? i am capeable. don't call me dummy. now who do you think schnur i am a girl with just good grades. >> the morale of this story is that no matter what people think about you, all you have to do is show who you really are. even if the situation isn't good for you, you must make the best effort you can and you will succeed in this life. jenny chuasiriporn did -- life. [cheers and applause] >> all right. yell about the shooting, about the killings. mothers don't remember reality. phone call. angers, her client.

not even his laugh is real. >> let me confess, i was walking into the studio so i didn't see it. >> let you're a personal powell. do you think this guy is a visceral personal powell? >> i think romney is a genuine person but he doesn't connect with people like bill clinton, he doesn't connect with people like ronald reagan. >> or you. >> he doesn't have those candidate skills. but he is a very capable guy who is for the right things, and we talk about $2 trillion sitting on the sideline and obama can't do anything about it because of this congress. well, the $2 trillion is sitting on the sidelines because of the democrat can congress he controlled when he wanted to give them the highest tax increase in the country fell primarily on employers. it was a plan where you put every budget he proposed -- >> bush is living under a tax program right now. george w. bush's tax regime is what we're under right now. all the tax cuts that bush wanted are still in place. we're living in a world designed fiscally by george w. bush and obama hasn't been able to change it an inch. >> just a quick point.

let me go to our other third guest and then we can have our. exchange here then if i go back to you first go to you in london what do you think about that and i want to talk about your own country greece i mean where is the center there and we have a lot of extremes going on there. well the sand there is imploding greece and i think i don't think that it is the center will give a response to the problems that europe is facing if there is one common thread that links development electoral developments and policy developments in the last few months across europe is that people who want change and there's a clear sense of that their action or that change change in terms of economic policy means some kind of not necessarily complete end to a split or steady but some kind of active promotion of growth because we know that there is to be there has been put in place in being utilized on that now actually is not working so i wouldn't necessarily link the kind of change that is happening to a particular aspect or of the political spectrum in the case of

let me tell you why i'm bringing this up, chip. because i think it speaks it a wider strategy of trying to make the president unamerican, maybe wasn't born here. i think this leads it this whole subliminal message that the republicans are trying to sell, that there is something unamerican about this president. and i'll tell you why, because when you you had people this your own primary, saying the same things about romney, vulture capitalists and all, no one said they were anti-capitalist or anti-free enterprise. why does the president have to be anti-free enterprise, anti-free capitalism. you didn't see that about grinning rich or huntsman or about mr. romney -- yes, mr. romney liking it fire people. there is a subliminal message here, are we really trying to sell the american people. >> i certainly hope not. i disagree with president obama a lot. but i do think he is an american and i disagree with the path he is trying to take. i think he is a person that believes more in government than the private sector. i couldn't disagree w

let me talk to jimmy. i'm done. let me go to you, jimmy. i say there with all great respect.e're not ambushing jimmy or team. we want you to talk about just this story and how it is being handled. it is part of a political conversation that his campaign has felt the need to defend rightfully so, mr. romney. they also indicated they believe it was exaggerated and off base. that anyone who knows romney knows he does not have a mean spirit in his body. so this is a fair conversation with the handling of this situation. jimmy? >> listen. his campaign in my opinion has not handled at this time best way they could have. if i were advising mitt romney, my advice to him would be simple. i don't remember it. if i did it, i am sorry. it is bad treatment. and let's move on. however, i have to take a little bit of issue here. in 2004, how did george bush win his re-election? gay marriage. gay marriage. gay marriage all day long. so frankly this idea that we can't have a substantive conversation about issues that actually affect people besides the economy is a red herring. we can have a c

let me, let me. forgive me, sir. let me bring in congressman ryan. >> guest: chris, the promise to cut the definite in half over the first term is a big promise break he made. the congressional office looked at the president's budget and it has 40 billion of actual reductions in the president's budget . that is according to cbo. and only to be outdone by tax increases for four billion and doesn't come close to if i caning our problem. and more to the point, chris. the president had four years to deal with this . four trillion deficits and four times did nothing about the debt crisis to get debt under control. he did disavow bowles-simpson. the reason i didn't vote for it was health care reform. and i put out a plan. here's what i would do to fix the crisis. the president is yet to propose. the senate hasn't voted three years on anything. >> guest: that is factually not the case. >> guest: according to the cbo. >> guest: to the congressional bottoming website to look at it for themselves. b, the fundmental choice here

mitt romney senses things are bad, you're in charge, and you are to blame for the badness. >> let me another question. just interesting to me. whenever you talk to people, they say watch what happens overseas because that's going to affect us. we now have this election going on in france. it looks as though the socialist who has promised a 75% rate on anyone making -- tax rate on anyone making $1.3 million or over, and they say the marginal rate is actually closer to 90% and who wants to put back in place the cuts in government service. if that should happen and if he should win, what does that do, if anything, to the u.s. economy? >> well, first place you have two elections. you have another one in greece next week, and it seems likely that both of them are a referendum on austerity, on the bad things that have been imposed, on the economies of both countries, but especially greece, in getting out of this dilemma, and the voters are not happy with having austerity. economists shouldn't be happy with it either, and it ought to be a lesson for us. if you cut spending drastically, it's

let me just say this. i have tried to convince media outlets to support the policies of my government. there was not and never has been any grand bargain. indeed, look for one moment at the number of meetings that tony blair and gordon brown had. blair, seven, brown 13, me, four. the idea that there would be some agreement that we would allow this merger to go through is simply not true. if that was the case, while i respect him deeply, what was i doing making him the business secretary responsible for this. the proprietors of news corp. have the night, under oath, at a limited inquiry. >> members must calmed down, there will be opportunity for questioning. >> news corp. has denied, under oath, any type of deal. let me make this last point. we would not have a newspaper with center-right to be used to change the newspaper of the lifetime. it was bad for our country and we ought to go. while i have said that the relationship between politicians and the media has been too close, i know that none of the peopl

it's very simple. >> well, let me give you the last word, chad. >> let me just say that what president obama did today is consistent with where the majority of american people are. >> no, it's not. >> we're a growing number of democrats and republicans from dick cheney to ted olson to laura bush. it is consistent. it's where the country is headed and i expect in not the too distant future, people like the activists here against me today will soon regret these words. i believe too will evolve to the side, the most american of all views, and that is equality and freedom. president obama put us one step closer to that today. >> chad griffin, bill donahue, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >>> just yesterday clay aiken said he wished president obama would, quote, hurry up and evolve faster. clay, you must be pretty happy that he reacted so quickly? >> i am. i feel so empowered. >> i mean a big day for every -- you know, every gay american. a big day for every american in many ways, whatever reaction you had to it. how did you feel when you heard the news? >> you know, it is a little

let me ask you -- we are talking about women here. what about-- >>> women and the dev sympt we can walk and chew gum. >> let's talk about mitt romney, the guy you want to be president, who was originally pro-choice. then when he decided to run for office, he's pro-life. >> sean: president obamma was pro-gay marriage, then he flipped and then he flopped and then he was nudispral now he's back [overlapping dialogue] >> you can't talk about flip-flop. you can't talk about flip-flop. >> you want a guy who can't admilt to his wonderful, you know, he is the god father of obamacare. he didn't bring jobs to massachusetts-- >>> here's the problem with all the pols are showing that you are wrong. here's the problem that i think you have. the president has a roird. his record has failed -- miserably. she doesn't want to talk about the $5 trillion in debt. she doesn't want to talk about no new net jobs. she wants to focus on the super fluous. this war on women has backfired. >> exactly, exactly. it has backfired. >> if you you want to attack obama

>> let me go back a little bit because we had a crisis, we should acknowledge that. i think president bush and president obama took extraordinary measures the old fashioned american world. i think they stopped a system from getting dramatically worse. that's true. in the last two years, i can never prove this, the debt ceiling crisis and failure to do something on simpson bowls, if you travel around, you should ask people yourself, this huge regulatory push, not financial, just in general, the lack of fiscal certainty and tax certainty, those things have hurt the ability to grow. we have been growing but it would have been faster had we gotten the basic things right. >> you talk about 4 million private sector jobs being created. over what time frame? >> the last two years. >> you think it could be double that? >> i can't proef it. i think it would have been a lot more had we not had the negatives i spoke about. the great american economic business machine is raring to go and in good position financially, low leverage, we have 27 million businesses, all of those peopl

let me play a little bit of what mr. romney had to say and we'll talk about this stunt. >> this building, this half a billion dollar taxpayer investment represents a serious conflict of interest on the part of the president and his team. it is also a symbol of how the president thinks about free enterprise. free enterprise to the president means taking money from the taxpayers and giving it freely to his friends. >> there you have it. romney at solyndra. david axelrod and supporters of the president in massachusetts trying to focus on his record. what do we make of this? >> let me talk about solyndra first. this is the lowest, cheapest blow. solyndra and the failed loan that it represents is 1% of the energy department's loan portfolio. a lot of people would argue we need more support for alternative energy. one of the reasons it went under is because the chinese own the manufacturing sector because they give it a lot of support. >> republicans seem to believe, and oxley because romney is there, they believe there's some