[laughter] american liberalism what is up with that? saw a prominent liberal writer is that they care about other people not just themselves. could liberals really believe that politics was confronted to get the better of statesmen and philosophers? how was that so simple? to secure justice and peace so that opposition to or the skepticism from the pathological meanspirited is. the shortest possible answer is yes and yes. [laughter] though long as possible for the answer is "the pity party" is now available in hardback. [laughter] i know that news stories but the problem of the compassion to a big part derives, excuse me. it literally means to suffer together. it is not like it is necessarily. [laughter] figure. to be in a political context your honker and your distress and now because of that so to care about your problem. so far so good. but that's turns out to be a factor because what we see too often is the project is much more concerned caring about carrying and caring about helping. with the strange comparison is in different if i

the texas liberals succeeded in gaining control of the democratic party so it was the liberals in the texas democratic party who actually helps the strengthening of the republican party by deliberately driving the conservatives from their own party. as wayne says be careful what you wish for, liberals. let's hope wayne also talks about the texas governor's race just last month when texas attorney general greg abbott beta democrat liberal feminist wendy davis by 20 plus% of the vote. watching that race from virginia i thought it had to be about the time when she ran that astounding ad on tv of her opponent greg abbott's empty wheelchair at the race turned around for good. so now to talk about this transformation of texas, how it took place in the future please join me in welcoming dr. wayne thorburn. [applause] >> thanks very much. i think my microphone is on, is it not? i want to thank not only michelle for that great introduction and ron for allowing us to have this opportunity to get together to talk a little bit about "red state" a book that came out the first of september and i th

things like army officer, liberals just don't want to pursue that. lots of -- you know, owning small-time laundromat. small businesses are something that conservatives want to do. meanwhile, anything that's, a job that seems to have very little structure, very little rules, it seems that liberals want to go into that field. academia, the arts. and one is journalism. so i think that -- so i don't think it's any sort of conspiracy that's keeping conservatives out of the newsroom. i think it's mainly just self-selection, and it's something for some reason liberals want to go into journalism whereas conservatives don't as much. >> host: tim gross close, what do you teach here at ucla? >> guest: i'm in the economics department. i kind of teach them economic methods for political scientists to use, also statistical methods that political scientists can use and also a congress course. >> host: does your bias come through in the classroom? >> guest: i try not to. for my congress course, i would ask all my students to compute what we call their a, dirks -- ad

so what is liberalism? now, i -- my memory's not so good, so i'm not, i don't like to boil things down to 39 principles. three is better, to my mind. so i think reading "suicide of the west," it crystallized for me what i think are the three features of liberalism. they're not quite the same as burnham's vision, and maybe we can talk about that. i think it was richard weaver who said that we operate at three different levels. we have specific beliefs, we have general principles, and we have metaphysical dreams. and i think liberalism is a metaphysical dream or perhaps more accurately, an anti-metaphysical dream. it dreams of justice. its political dream is a dream of justice without virtue. its moral dream is a dream of virtue without discipline on censure. and spiritually, it's a dream of self-realization as salvation. to my mind, those are the -- that's the metaphysical, the threefold metaphysical or anti-metaphysical dream of liberalism. well, so that was a kind of maybe a provocation in light of his own

as wayne says, be careful what you wish for, liberals. and let's hope wayne also talks about the texas governor's race just last month when texas attorney general greg abbott beat democrat liberal feminist wendy davis by 20 plus percent of the vote. watching that race here from virginia i thought it had to be about the time when she ran that astounding ad on tv of her opponent, greg abbott, his empty wheelchair that the race turned around for good. so now to talk about this transformation of texas, how it took place and the future, please join me in welcoming dr. wayne thorburn. [applause] >> thanks. thanks very much. great, appreciate it. >> [inaudible] >> i think so. i think my microphone is on, is it not? yes, great. well, listen, i want to thank not only michelle for that great introduction and ron for allowing us to have this opportunity to get together and talk a little bit about "red state," a book that came out the first of september and i think you're going to get a copy of, those who wish to have one as you leave, and i'll be gl

the white liberals abandoned the black liberals.he only african-american in the united states senate who was trying to enforce the constitution. >> guest: that's right so bret tried to stop the biden amendment and he was unable to. he was basically voted down. brooke, at the chance to interview interview broke and i asked him about busing. he insisted that he was no great lover of busing. he was no great defender of school busing but he weighed the issue in his conclusion was that it was the best instrument available at the time. he was a defender of desegregation and he was going to go down fighting for integrated america. at that time places like the boston school committee had simply rejected every other kind of effort integrating schools. the only kind left at the moment were to try to put kids on buses and put them in different schools. so brooks said this has to be done to remedy a constitutional wrong for black children. >> host: it was the only thing left. >> guest: the massachusetts racial imbalance act, once i got repealed

not the classical liberal constitution. so what can you regular in the 19th century under the police power? well, you could regulate bowling, for example, because it tended to lead to sinful activities. you could regulate any form of gambling that you wanted. you could regulate anything associated with sexual behavior, inside or outside of marriage. you could criminalize sodomy, you could criminalize homosexual behavior. you could criminalize adultery, even criminalize fornication. you can pose all kinds of restrictions on what ages you can marry, degrees of marriage, and so forth. this was a soup to nuts regulation. the basic 19th century view of the world was not consistently libertarian. it was freedom in the economic sphere and powerful regulation in the moral sphere. which carried forth much of the puritanical position. you come to the 20th century, all the economic liberties disappear in the wake of the lochner decision and the new deal. we can have minimum wage laws, overtime statutes, union laws. we can have antidis

he had big sideburns and yet almost full head of hair, a liberal, a liberal voting record.ry liberal. that he was from a border state, delaware. and he started to offer anti-busing amendments. and when the anti-busing amendments were offered a young liberal from delaware, rather than an old conservative from the south, there was an image stored to get much more nationwide appeal. >> host: a unity of purpose. the south wasn't so different anymore. >> guest: a lot of senators jumped on the anti-busing dash thy do want to say train. the anti-busing buss. >> host: the white liberals abandoned the black liberal, the only one trying to enforce the constitution, according to him. >> guest: that's right. and so brooke tried to stop the biden amendment's and he was unable to. he was basically voted down. and well, i had the chance to interview brooke and asked him about busing. he insisted he was no great lover of busing. he was no great defender of school busing. but he waited the issue and his conclusion was that it was the best instrument available at that time. he was a defender

area which is pretty liberal. kids are probably, college kids are a little more liberal than they will be when they're older, so they're probably slightly more to the left than the average l.a. person. but the class that i teach, some kids it gets around that i'm the one or one of the few republicans on campus, and some of them will take my course because of that. oh, and the other thing because as a congress course i do these exercises where we're a mock congress, and it just doesn't work if it's 75-25 democrat. so i like to get the number, something like 55-45 or 60-40. so i even begged some of the democrats to pretend to be republicans. i go to the bruin republicans, to one of their meetings. i begged some of them to take my course, and with that i can get the numbers up to something like 40% republican, 60% democrat. and then after begging a few democrats to switch, it's something like 45-55. so it's pretty close to balance. >> host: so by the time this interview airs, we're taping it now in may of 2014, you'r

he calls eight liberating moment. i think he is talking about the decisions he made in cuba with immigration reform a liberateing moment. does that make sense to you, margaret? >> you know it states that the president wasn't actually interested in giving a go in the last two years of his presidency when a few congress was coming to town. the olive branchs the first 24 hours, i'll try to work with the congress and see what happens within they come in. but then he was liberateing, using the force of the executive

and ancient and modern, what is liberal education. he says: the greatest minds utter monologues. we must transform their monologues into a dialogue. they're sid by side into it together. the greatest minds utter monologues even when they write dialogues. when we look at the platonic dialogues we observe that there is never a dialogue among minds of the highest order. all platonic dialogues are dialogues between a superior man and men inferior to him. plato apparently felt one could not write a dialogue between two men of the highest order. we must then do something which the greatest minds were unable to do. since the greatest minds contradict one another regarding the most important matters, they compel us to judge of their monologues. we cannot take on trust what any one of them says. on the other hand we cannot but notice that we are not competent to be judges. so, basically, this is for strauss the task of philosophy in the post -- it's really to construction the dialogues to create a new openness, a new way of understanding and a

that's my question for both tea party and liberals after this. they were mad about provisions in the bill but in the end they lost. >> yes, they lost and sort of the moderate wings of the party prevailed and the centrists. elizabeth warren on one hand, nancy pelosi vocal against some of the provisions of this bill that had to do with wall street, that had to do with campaign finance but ultimately they lost but they're flexing muscle and doing themselves some good. elizabeth warren very much out front stoking more speculation she'll run for president and ted cruz saying i'm ted cruz and i'm all about ted cruz. >> is it all about ted cruz, is he running for president? i'm old enough to remember in the old days even if you were going to defy your leader in the senate, you drop by the office and you told him you were going to do it or gave him a phone call and edds up. mitch mcconnell was surprised, stunned by ted cruz. what's the carryover? is this a one-off for this spending bill or does it carry into next year? >> all indications are cruz will co

juan, liberal-tarian, still? >> yeah the truth hurts. because the fact is, when you stand for the people and against the state, then you people say, oh, no you can't you must be a liberal. no libertarian. libertarian. >> libertarians are for smaller government maybe. we'll rethink that. let's bring it around. jonathan, what was your favorite moment? >> so many laughs. so many great laughs. so many verbal harassment from wayne. i mean honestly, wayne i don't shut up, i grow up. when i look at you, i throw up. and that's my response. we had some great discussions. i feel like, eric, we start the discussion and our millions of viewers pick up the discussion. they're the ones who bring it to the culture. these ideas, these political ideas, matter. they're changing the culture. >> you want to know something, the twitter thing is something that's a phenomenon. people cannot understand what is going on with our twitter. by the way, tweet your favorite moment of the year for us. we'll keep track of that and see which one you guys like the best.

some of that will involve higher education and liberal education. and the kind of liberal education that you would get here and other places is very important some people. that means it is a market that will be served. but we should not simply think of it as a market in economic terms. but i don't think of markets in general in purely economic terms. mark is our way of allocating resources and allowing people to find what they want, and some of what they want is an educated citizenry and access to truth and beauty, and it's a source of things that a lot of people at this university seek. i think today's higher education system is the enemy of those people, and they need to see that. they will be the ones who have to go first. and the kinds of solutions that andrew offers i think could be very good for liberal education. they don't involve rejecting that is an option. they involve allowing people to seek what they want to make it sustainable economically. there is no getting away from economics when we talk about higher education. >> a last question,

it's not something that i think liberal arts students should pursue full-time. i want to be clear and i hope i'm clear in the book i'm a pragmatist too. i do not want students to think that the world is always them a living. there's a difference between compromise and capitulation. figure out what you want to do. figure out where you care about the most meant a drop hopefully with the help of college how you were going to translate that into a career that can sustain you. it's also important for students to know that is not just about the first job and if you look at people who have been successful especially people who have been successful and done interesting things that almost never a linear path. that is why i say in nearly practical terms it's pragmatic approach is self-defeating because you want to compare people to bail to navigate a career which means having all these intangible or soft skills that you don't get from a technical education or business minor. you get it from learning how to be the kind of person the kind of thinker that a liberal arts educ

the question is how are you going to have access to great liberal education? and i don't think it's going to be in a system that's under the kind of pressure that our higher education system under now. part of what we're talking about is to make the system more sustainable by making it answer people's needs and wants better than it does now. some of those wants are going to involve higher education and liberal education. and the kind of liberal education that you would get here and other places is very important to some people. that means it is a market that will be served. we shouldn't simply think of it as as a market in economic terms. i don't think of markets in general in purely economic terms. markets are ways of allocating resources and allowing people to find what they want and some of what people want is this kind of a in educating and access to things and beauty that a lot of people in this university see. i think a higher education system is the enemy of those people and they need to see that. they're going to be the one who is have to go first. and

in that sense, a progressive vision of liberalism and the conservative vision of liberalism. from the outset it has been the argument about the nature of a liberal society. >> you express the contrast between the two visions of the status of national rights. is important for the audience to understand exactly which otherspaine and the considered civil, which were alienable and unalienable. if we don't understand that, we cannot understand why madison thought the most important amendment in his list was the one that might have inhibited the states from abridging freedom of speech and religious consciousness. i am going to read from paine, because i thought this was such a great passage that you included. "people trade freedom for protection, but they don't give up their own unalienable rights. are the national rights and you need to distinguish between the rights you can individually exercise, fully and perfectly, and those that you cannot. these first are the rights of speaking, giving opinions, and those that can be fully aid of theithout the exterior assistance. the second

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not the liberal democrats. ed henry's got the story.d. >> reporter: that's right, two headlines, megyn. number one, this bill has now passed 219 to 206. that means if the senate can pass it, that remains a big if, the government will remain open and will move forward. it was house republican votes, well over 150 by my count that pushed this through and well over 135, 140 house democrats voted no, abandon the president because of their anger about rollbacks to wall street reform and other provisions in this bill. so this was a big test of the president's juice. he urged his fellow democrats to support this. in large numbers they said no to the president of their party. in large number republicans who had earlier resisted this conservatives said, look, let's move forward on this. now it's kicked over to the senate. now mike emanuel says democratic senator barbara mckuls ki is headed -- remember, where's elizabeth warren? the democratic senator who said he's going to hold it up? will she hold it up? will she become the ted cruz on the othe

it's a liberal expression that jesus had a sense of humor. and i'm sure he did have a sense of humor but let's get real. host: jack. guest: well, this has been really fun. thanks, steve. well, look i think you have to look at not just my work in its totality but every cartoonist in its totality. and so i'm drawing cartoons in sacramento and i'm writing a column in sacramento and i'm writing editorials in sacramento. and so you have to look at the whole sweep of what everybody is doing. so what the caller has seen is some randomly selected cartoons over the course of 20 minutes and so she's not seeing everything that i've done she's not seeing everything that tom has done. so i do try to be ecumenical. i'm not saying i don't have a point of view. i do have a point of view. and i do get to express that and conservatives get to express theirs and liberals get to express theirs. and c-span has democrat i can, republican and independent callers at nating. to me there's no essential fairness. john kennedy once said life is unfair. it is kind of unf

i guess there are liberals right there. >> united states air force academy there are still very many very liberal individuals. >> you are kidding. they get offended when you are conservative. it's just like ha hey, that's the way i am made. >> watters is next. get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ho, ho, ho, ho] lease the 2014 cla 250 for $329 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. and we're here in detroit with our amazing team members. the best part about working with quicken loans, is that you have a mortgage expert on the other line that's always gonna find out the best possible solution. we just don't treat you as a loan number. we wanna make sure that we help you out. we're people just like them. ya know, and we know that they have jobs, they have kids, they have soccer. their home is where their heart is. so we wanna make sure that we take care of them. call quicken loans today for a mortgage experience that's engineered to amaze! >>> yet another edition of watters world

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the women's liberation movement has added the equal signs.t of women know, including this one, equality is often missing. >> you have this sort of bubbling up of a desire for real equality. and then you get women beginning to gel from community-based activism to real solid organizing. >> the women's liberation movement was a parallel movement to betty friedan's the national organization for women. so, almost as soon as n.o.w. has formed in 1966, women liberation groups are emerging around the country. >> this younger generation moves in and very much broadens the perspective of the women's movement. >> all of these things build on one another. and this younger group not only believed that you needed economic power, but that you needed a revolution in the relationship between the sexes. >> beauty pageants not enough! >> it was revolution going on outside. but on television, it wasn't a real, live girl, and that's what i wanted to do. ♪ >> "that girl." now that is an incredibly subversive television show, absolutely amazing. ♪ >> daddy was just

jessica, the media is very liberal. extremely liberal.ting more liberal every day and becoming less and less journalistic every day as well. >> i think by liberal you mean free, as jonathan was saying -- >> no, i don't think he does. >> there's absolutely no way -- i don't necessarily agree. we have this -- this is cyclical in journalism. at the beginning of the last century, you had the outbreak of yellow journalism. the rise of the tabloid. all these lies being printed left right and center and they sold newspapers. i think if we can actually figure out a way with journalism and the media to make a successful business model out of whether it's online news, whether it's the actual evening news -- >> it's called the credible -- >> i like to hold something, but people have them on their ipads. if you make it a successful business model -- >> -- be credible and people will trust you. >> last word, mawayne. >> you say journalism. you go back to those days. you can't do that. you've got television, instant news, people reporting, people looki

what your liberal friends also said? i don't think they really -- >> to this day, when you talk about neoconservative, it's like selling democracy at the point of a spear and that sort of thing. that's what i mean. and the fact is that we will never be able to sell a leadership role, however you may define it, to the american people unless there are some values. and frankly, our, our alliances are always, are based on values as well. they're liberal democracies for the most part. i'm not talking about the middle east. i'm talking about europe and asia. and we are allies. and that is not insignificant. so if it's in defining what your structure is, it's not something that's taken over by events or a diffusion of power and the like. the real question i have is that i kind of agree with much of the analysis that you were making. but the question is, what do you do about it? what is your responsive to diffusion of power? does that mean you cut your defense budget and pull back on the military capabilities because you don't t

lower middle class family that had a liberal belief and a liberal understanding of the world, and the desire to do good was certainly impressed on me from a young age, and i thank them for everything they did to give me a base of what i believe in and what i think our democracy should be about. i was lucky to have them keep me involved in some of those things they did as adults. when i was a child. and i was fortunate that when i started becoming an adult, i wanted to get in this business and try to make a difference. >> host: did they push you into politics? it's sunday, we're going to do all things politics, or morning, noon and night, they want to get you involved in political activities or was it michigan that just because of the environment you took a shine to. >> guest: they didn't push me, and never pushed me to be a fundraiser. more of an opportunity. they gave me an opportunity to be engaged in issues of the day. i remember being a ten-year-old protesting the iranian embassy over the hostages here in d.c., and it was just opportunities to be involved in the issues of the day,

that is when the church identified itself with that stream of liberation, which was seeking the liberation latin america from colonial and postcolonial servitude. what happen with liberation theology is in the 1970's, it became political. -- politicized. seeking to capture the state and use the state to redistribute wealth. much in the manner of the cuban revolution. back then pope francis as a young jazz with oppose this politicization -- a young jazz with a post this legislation politicization. his own anthology was a branch which was not much known about it at the time. what was happening in argentina was a very important theology the elegy of the people, which was all about respecting an understanding the values in the traditions of ordinary people. this has been a source of contention because people said he has been described by some in argentina, some saw him as a conservative because he resisted the politicization of the theology. as i show in my book, it is safer to see him as a defender of the traditions and the values of the ordinary people against elite ideologies. quite an impo

liberalism in america and how it effects you, the every day citizen.i didn't say the ordinary citizen. because that is inaccurate. there are no ordinary people. all of us are unique. but working class folks make this country run. that's always been the case so tonight i want to take a look at how liberalism is effecting all of us. and that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. this woman, senator elizabeth warren from massachusetts is emerging as the face of liberal america. some in the leftist media do not trust hillary clinton. believing she is so socially moderate and too hawkish in the war on terror. so, senator warren is receiving adoring coverage and being encouraged to run for president on the democratic ticket by the likes of the far left web site move on. the senator is an interesting woman. she spent nearly 20 years teaching at the harvard law school and once claimed to be of cherokee dissent. that came back to bite her as the boston herald reported she has no native american heritage. nevertheless, she easily defeated scott b

the liberal movement was pro-life. jesse jackson led pro-life rallies on the grounds that abortion was an attempted genocide against the black population. in fact, the public funding of abortion was developed by southerners as a final solution to the race problem. and ronald reagan was pro-choice. >> so was barry goldwater. >> he was even later. as scientific evidence and all these other things came in the movement changed, and these debates in the early days are very strong. we developed a new consensus. but we did not say those people who did not see the light were all going to go to hell. we decided we would keep them in and accept their votes anyway. [laughter] that is really what you have to do if you want to win. >> surprisingly, stefan has a question. >> i'll bet he's from mississippi. >> stefan, mississippi college. >> do they pay you to say that every time? >> every time i say mississippi, they put $1.00 in my account. so, i thoroughly enjoyed everything you had to say, but because the three of you are all yap

the emphasis is more on teaching, and they still defend liberal arts. they're also now public honors colleges. more and more of them, that try to replicate the model on a large public campuses. to me that's what a college should look like. where students feel supported by the institution and their peers for once to get a real education, not like a sucker, because you should major in econ and go to wall street. >> host: the advantage potentially -- the small liberal arts colleges that do that, i admire them, and the elite ones get the best students. but the advantage might be for a student who goes to a research university with a liberal arts college, they get both in a sense. they get access to high quality research and a high-power institution in that way and they hopefully get the personal attention and the teaching that is required in the college environment. it's a balance but some places try to do both. >> guest: institutions differ i think of the university of shuck which has a great reputation for intense intellectualism and think about the fact

this is all of your liberal things.s is another reason why it may be coming your way, all these liberal guys doing this stuff, it's terrible. >> kimberly, you wer prosecutor and i heard a good one. is this good training? >> it's good training if you want to be a bed wetter and a cry baby, because the attorneys i know, the defense attorneys and prosecutors, work really hard, they'll go sleepless nights, the whole deal to get it done. that's what you have to do especially when you work in the law, long hard hours, you can't be making any executions, your clients don't want to hear excuses, the state that you represent don't want to hear excuses. the day i took the bar exam, i was in the hospital and i wasn't going to take another four months to take it. i snuck out of the hospital and went back in the next day. >> what were you in the hospital for? >> a kidney infection. i was really, really sick. >> and she passed. >> this is what happens when you don't drink enough water. >> that's kidney stones. we're not talking about

he's an old-time liberal republican. that's what he is. >> considering mark levin's tongue lashing of jeb bush is typical of some attacks coming from the far right. another from grover norquist who, every election cycle puts candidates to sign his pledge. rand paul, scott walker, marco rubio, ted cruz have all signed it. jeb bush has not. >> the pledge was presented to me three times. i never signed the pledge. i don't believe in giving principles and convictions to people. >> jeb bush put it in writing and he won't say it. at some point you have to ask him, what taxes do you plan to raise? >> i think that's kind of nonsense. >> former political scientist derio said in the sunshine state, jeb bush, republican, has come to recommend anyone with credentials. >> he is a tax cutter and a fiscal conservative. he got rid of the florida corporate tax and he reduced the florida intangible tax which is a tax on investments. so when jeb was governor of florida, he did a tremendous job of reducing the size of state government and o

i am more liberal than she is. think about ayou hillary clinton-elizabeth warren ticket as proposed by "the national review." caller: i think "the national review" is generally conservative and would like to have a ticket that would have less of a chance to lose -- or a greater chance to lose. jay here inat is d.c., and this is mark in california. hey, mark. mark in san jose. caller: can you hear me? host: we are listening. caller: i would like to see a war in-clinton ticket is that of a clinton-warren ticket. i think clinton is an asset, but i think warren's backbone and holding wall street accountable is very important. host: mark, what do you do in san jose? caller: i am an intern for a senator. a state senator or a national senator? caller: a national senator. host: either barbara boxer or dianne feinstein. caller: yes, i cannot tell you which. host: what are you studying? caller: public policy at berkeley. host: what to do you want to do with a degree? caller: maybe u.s. legislative advising full stop i do not

>> less than liberals. i think there is tension between a skepticism of the efficacy of government that conservatives and libertarians share and a strange enthusiasm and the confidence that government can do lots of great things overseas. pithiest way to say this is that folks like me have some doubts about the u.s. postal service's ability to deliver the mail and we believe the united states can deliver democracy in a foreign country where we don't know the culture and aren't really welcome. much of the time, not all the time. but much of the time. another thing i was struck by when reading kim's series of articles, this notion about state failure and the need to rebuild failed states. the idea that this is not nationbuilding. well what is it? , if we are going to avert their decline or make them stronger, that is nationbuilding. i think many conservatives and libertarians have some skip the schism -- skepticism. i call it the fatal conceit. i think there is a tension there between the confidence in the u.

i don't want to get rid of all liberals. but the problem is that they're so steeped in their liberal ideology within they don't see a problem. but if we had somebody who had eld up a planned parenthood, they wouldn't be teaching at one of these universities. parents don't know all of what's going on. it absolutely should be called out. just because he did his time, so to speak, doesn't mean he should get whatever he wants when he comes out. he can have a job, just not teaching students. >>> by the way, something else making college studentsary their eyes pop, the skyrocketing cost of tuition. >>> the smart stock to help pay for college, the triple qs. >> and it also has health care stocks in it, i'm liking it. >> mike, you like it? >> really smart way to play tek. >> they're going to benefit from falling oil prices. >> do you like that? >> i like conning a ra a lot. >> everything agrees? merry christmas. that's it for forbes on fox. thank you all for watching. keep it right here. eric bolling and "cashin' in". >> put your ha

who they f people uphold as liberal -- liberals who are supposed to be treating women as more than objects are doing the opposite of that inside hollywood. so that is why he is in the book. host: you quote arch liberal excused the erg incident an roman polanski. not rape-rape she said on "the view" but i don't rape-rape. was guest: this goes back to the for ent how the standard republicans is much higher with the press in terms of what they things wed to say about like rape than for rib rails. goldberg is an example. if you had a republican say one who incorrectly for his ondemned comments about rape in 2012, she accountable for that. shes just that not only did make the comments but hollywood not as le viewed it rape-rape even though the girl was unaged and horrible escriptions of what happened and that allows it to happen again. when the people who inside especially women are not willing to stand up to that rape, it was wrong and where do we give him a an again. host: another you write about is hbo series. why has lena dunham been so popular popular with less her new book and discussions

i don't want to get rid of all liberals. the problem is that they're so steeped in their liberal ideology within they don't see a problem. but if we had somebody who had eld up a planned parenthood, they wouldn't be teaching at one of these universities. parents don't know all of what's going on. it absolutely should be called out. just because he did his time, sd get whatever he wants when he comes out. he can have a job, just not teaching students. >>> by the way, something else making college studentsary their eyes pop, the skyrocketing cost of tuition. of tuition. get ready to put your we asked people a question how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to like, pull it a little further got me to 70 years old i'm going to have to rethink this thing it's hard to imagine how much we'll need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. so maybe we need to approach things differently, if we want to be ready for

probably a liberal. but they government bureaucrats were teaming up with political crony businessman to seize his property in brooklyn via eminent domain abuse to give it to developers to build a basketball arena. unbelievable story. so he was the perfect hero. he was not the only one in the fight, but he was authentic. not a political type. he is an everyman. it works for the same reason that letters to the editor are more effective than editorials. we get irritated by editorials. because they are written by some left wing blowhard every time. unless it is "the wall street journal," every editorial is sending that makes us pull her hair out. but letters to the editor are far more widely read than the editorials they are short, to the point. more importantly, they are written by somebody like you. that makes for a great hero. so we backed this film, which went on to be shortlisted for an academy award nomination in the best documentary category. a film about property rights and individual liberty. do you

there were liberal republicans, not just in massachusetts at the harvard club. they were found all over the country. by the same token there were conservative democrats. particularly in the south but not limited to the south. i think one of the reasons why so many people today are so turned off is because people as desspirit as franklin roosevelt and barrygold water each got a holm monthized ideology include cohesive to the point of purity party so you have a truly conservative party, a truly liberal party, and guess what? that fails to account for millions of people who don't want to adopt so simplistic a view of the world. >> something else to add to that. i think what you're referring to, richard, is that fdr, franklin roosevelt in 1944, said, what this country really needs is a libraire party and a conservative party because he was being the warted by southern democrats in the senate? particular. he actually thought it would be an advantage if the two parties were more ideologically aligned. guess what. he got what he wished for and we have this moment today

it might an cosmopolitan middle class but it does not mean that it's a liberal middle class. that's an important difference. >> from what i i've heard over the last five minutes i would think that we're talking about different countries. isn't that part of the problem? you have those who are most liberal, to those who support the taliban, and those who think it needs to go. this complicated character of the state makes it difficult for pakistan's neighbors to interact with pakistan in an consistent way because they're not sure when they talk with the pakistani officials if they're going to be speaking with those who are representing this more liberal notion of pakistan or those who see pakistan's ringal interest. regional interest. there are long narratives about how other countries have left them dowlet them down . the united states with its relationship with pakistan feel it has not been forthcoming over the last 10 years. that it has decided to go after certain groups, al-qaeda now to go after ttp but not other groups. pakistan certainly wants to go after the group that is