libya needs to be reconstructed entirely. they are doing everything they can to undermine any sense of mission, one single vision. they must be allowed to express what it means to be libyan. that is the unification. therefore, we have to make sure there is an effort toward reconciliation and unification is reconciled -- on the other hand with the strong emphasis on the municipalities. >> i think we will have to end their. thank you very much. thank you, kareem, daniel, and peter. we are going to take a break for just a couple of minutes and we will of the second panel appeared promptly. thank you. >> an update on the situation in libya. the wife and two children of libyan leader gaddafi have crossed the border into out jerry. gaddafi's whereabouts are still unknown. more from the forum with the discussion looking at nato's role in libya. this is an hour and 10 minutes. >> welcome back. the atlantic council's international security program has always made trans-atlantic security matters of core focus of our activities here. we

rebel say that they now control most of tripoli and have taken libya state t.v. channels off there and some reports suggest opposition fighters have been looting private houses to a good half his sons enough to be in rebel hands for the third having escaped house arrest opposition leaders say a large number of their fighters have been killed reports of heavy fighting around gadhafi compound but the whereabouts of the colonel are unknown nato insists it will continue combat air patrols until the government forces surrender from a night of chaos in the capital crowds have been seen in tripoli central square waving revolutionary flags. or journalistically missile whose founder and chairman of online newspaper the voltaire network is in the rixos hotel in tripoli and told me earlier that nato forces are doing everything to back up the rebels. leader also. from the u.s. so there is only from the listing side you know. the e.u. is really. only seem to try to keep it all those inside. so. to protect against the u.s. . surrounded by good rights. to prevent the entrance f

but i do think the west was very very much behind that in libya. i think you know the hague the international court is very much involved in what's going to happen when when they capture khadafi which i have no doubt they will they will be very much involved they've already said that they want his sons in their custody which is kind of interesting i find. going cut off he is captured in detained the international court out of the hague is sounds like it's going to step in so does that mean the people of libya are going to. decide his fate i don't really think so i think the international court's going to decide his fate. major nato members have already recognized libya's rebels as the country's legitimate government russia's envoy to the alliance says western forces were heavily involved in the rebels' advance to the capital. it. is not that nato forces were involved in the storming of tripoli and other libyan cities but that it's been done with the help of military instructors also in some places so-called soldiers of fortune were involved that is

after libya in addition to libya what about syria what do you see happening next in regards to other countries reign syria you know as we move across the middle east and well you can use a compass which is whoever the u.s. corporate media and the u.s. government is demonising whoever they decided must go is then in the crosshairs of the next the stabilization so you think some of the mainstream media here in this country is calling the shots here but i think they're echoing the policy of the u.s. government they function as a propaganda arm there's a lot made about the u.s. has a free press but you see a complete uniformity of position once the state department in the white house established a position has a lot of reasons for that but i think what's coming next this is the united states is determined having if they do succeed in overthrowing khadafi and conquering libya bring it back into an american british french fear of influence that they will try to do the same in syria so i think we'll see an expanding level of intervention though i always say it's for humanitarian good it's a

in libya continues to unfold. reporting from the border of tunisia and libya there and across the atlantic president obama said despite the rebel advance into tripoli the outcome of the main a battle remains fluid and he's going to church again has more commentary from washington d.c. . washington a key player in the fight for tripoli says they are in close contact with the rebels leadership and that the u.s. will support a peaceful transition to democracy president obama while on vacation has made this statement this monday in the wake of dramatic developments in tripoli over the weekend that were really far from peaceful again he was talking about what a terrible dictator it could be was what a great job nato has done he called the levy is to support the transitional national council that's a body that's heavily backed by western allies as we know he once again said that billions of dollars in frozen levy in assets will go to the council to help them restore order in the country that's been torn apart by the civ

has a contentious oil and gas exploration contract in libya which the u.k. government will be anxious for its resume italian oil giant e n i. is the first to send back to libya and he says rose on the knees french towel and. the well as investors hopes they'd soon be able to resume production in libya but at what price to the libyan people the great fear is that just as they did in iraq that creates a democracy which serves british interests or the west's interests or oil companies interests and does nothing for the people of libya nor am its. times correspondent pepe escobar believes as soon as western countries get libyan oil contracts no one boots on the ground to keep them secure. this is the cover story in this story from the beginning was r two p. responsibility to protect that was the basis for u.n. resolution one nine seventy three there is that bathes of the agreement between the u.s. and saudi arabia we get a resolution based on your fake arab league gold nine countries out of twenty two and you can do any you want with bahrain saudi arabia itself

was libya's. ambassador to india for they cut off the regime these are the real leaders of the national transitional council. they're certainly known have any history as democrats you know they've been associated with a good off the regime for a very long time furthermore i very much agreed with the comment in your report that. this this regime in the making is largely being installed by western powers if we go back to march of this year when the un adopted security council resolution one thousand and seventy three that was the no fly zones to protect civilians. that didn't by any stretch of the imagination give nato forces the authority to facilitate regime change in libya which is what we're now doing in the us it is in the lead they haven't recognized the national transitional council in july of this year so there are of course the great danger is either we have a continuing civil war or we have what the libyan people think of as a puppet american regime designed to protect access to the forty

play in the future of libya. well i think you have to take the american president obama at his word in the statement he made and a very much of the statement that mr cameron made that that the that france. and the united states are working toward. they want a free democratic and inclusive libya. and i think they made it very plain that nato will not send troops on the ground. and. i take them at their word for the moment now there's a lot of suspicion that al qaeda could be part of these rebel groups can the rebels run their country or do you think there could be a power vacuum that could get filled by radical terrorist elements there's definitely a question of a power vacuum and for the reasons i was talking about earlier these people simply may not be willing to get along and it's just human nature there once the main battle was fought off then the schisms and the fractures begin to appear once the main danger has passed so we don't know what's going to happen they're going to have to struggle and stay together

to the the mage's events in libya. the french president has spoken to. jabril by telephone on monday and announced that he's invited him for talks on wednesday france said the navy is a potentially rich country but it needs support and. in fact paris is behaving as if it's all over now that the war is finished and as a pact of fact officially announced its military mission in libya is complete but experts who do express fears that the region is between the rebels themselves that they like a common enemy and give their feet if gadhafi has indeed now gone maybe there is further violence as those splits between the rebels are already exposed but in brussels the diplomats and analysts seem to be united states has really taken a back seat here soon opportunity to take a leading role of the e.u. says that much hard work is ahead and it is prepared to work with new leadership of libya and nato says that it will continue with its mission which is to protect civilians and. residents and i did that is doing that it's protecting civilians on the ground and. these t

and this is going to be the libya just as in other countries. tunisia and what is happening in egypt which is not. really the. speech that's not the issue but what i'm afraid of yes indeed and i'm. absolutely not. but i'm pretty sure the violence is going to break out to make some very interesting observations thanks very much indeed international consultant and former deputy speaker of the belgian parliament that reduced thanks. when news of the rebel advance into tripoli was greeted warmly by investors around the world sparking an immediate drop in oil prices and i don't know the most important question is just how much stability the new government will bring an issue i was just talking about ortiz refer to as the latest. what we see really is a knee jerk reaction in the oil markets to the events in tripoli we've seen the oil prices he said talking almost three dollars in festus thinking that there are some hopes so oil production could shortly now it's least foreign minister has confirmed that the italian oil company any has sent workers back

libya is a major producer. tell us about the reaction to what is unfolding in libya. >> libyan oil goes mostly to the european markets, not directly to the american market. we understand that the market is globally connected. one always directly impacts the other. the story in libya is quite interesting. the regime change would lead to oil production that has been halted for couple of months to come back rather quickly. oil supply will go up. oil demand has been under pressure for quite awhile. that is due to the slowing economy and to fear of further slowing worldwide. that will put some downward pressure on oil prices. that is what are expecting in the near term. that is good news for large parts of the industry and also for the consumer. >> after the incredible turbulence we have seen in weeks come by, tell us how things are shaping up in the new trading week. >> what an interesting day we have seen so far. we started the day with a huge uptick, the dow jones up 175 points, more than 1.5%. in the next couple

no the future government of libya heading had these. support. be very very grateful. very helpful to these currencies these group of need two countries for them to to to read. see the future for the rebuilding of the economy over there china nor russia they have no chance to hear of the same equal. treatment they have the countless we each have helped the opposition in libya to be in this week three. and it will be following the dramatic events in libya on air and online throughout the day so he can do stay with us. let's get to some other news now israel and the palestinians have reportedly agreed to restore a fragile cease fire that's after sunday's attempt to end the cross border fighting around gaza resulted in more rocket and airstrikes artie's pull asli and i'll bring just more from some of. the popular resistance committees has agreed to. this egyptian brokered truce between israel and hamas now the p.l.c. is significant because moderate is a relatively small it's how this thing until it is. hold responsible for that initial cost border raid on tuesday that kil

terrorism in libya. the terrorism that has been going on for months now killing innocent lives of the libyan people and we've been saying that surely withdraw their military forces and actually allow the roadmap that has been outlined by african leaders to resolve the conflict in libya peacefully we are not in support of either the rebels. or the pro got us forces in libya do you think the african union would have achieved what has been achieved so far some would say that they haven't really played a big role in this. no the nato nato has not achieved anything in fact nato is actually submitted to the probe no the african goes you are just going to have to interrupt i'm asking about the effort on the union. i'm trying to respond to both your questions the first one is that nato nato has not achieved anything even if they are to remove gadhafi and his government at the moment what we are going to have is. forms of political instability and further breakage of the civil war in libya and in terms of your ot

in libya. now former u.s. diplomat in libya john graham says even if the rebels take over there will barely be a hint of democracy in libya. there is so little civil society in libya there are so few democratic institutions and they are so weak they have nothing to build on egypt in tunisia there was at least something to build on once the filler was was was gotten away when in libya that's not the case these people have to start from scratch and there are all kinds of reasons why it could fail what is the whole nature of the transitional council is he it's it's a mess it's these people are some of them are exiles some of their are have fled from that you could argue regime a few of them are islamicists summary intellectuals and probably professors some are business people so just hanging together is going to be an enormously difficult task for them the other thing is that they've got. reprisals they've got they can't make can't they can't care for uprising against their enemies that will just

and this is going to be libya just as in other countries. and what is happening in egypt which is not. really. that's not an issue but what i'm afraid. to do you know. but i'm pretty sure the violence is going to freak out and if you make some very interesting observations thanks very much indeed international consultant and former deputy speaker of the belgian parliament he produced thanks. when news of the rebel advance into tripoli was greeted warmly by investors around the world sparking an immediate drop in oil prices and i want to know the most important question is just how much the booty the new government will bring and if you're just talking about ortiz the latest what we thing really is a kneejerk reaction in the oil markets to the events. in the oil prices as you say took almost three dollars in first this thinking that there are some hopes the oil production could resume shortly now it's least foreign minister has confirmed that the company any has work is back in libya they've led the way really in sending their workers back th

libya is free. gadhafi needs to go." rebel forces say they're now in control of most parts of the capital and the government itself is conceding that parts of the city are no longer under its control. it says also that 1,300 people have been killed over the past 12 hours. what about moammar gadhafi and all of this? there is so much uncertainty surrounding this situation on the ground. where are rebels now? how much of the city have they captured and where is the man who was in charge of libya for 42 years? moammar gadhafi. there was an audiomessawed audi he vowed to fight to the drop of blood. now numerous news reports out of libya security forces are surrendering. perhaps they think it's not worth the fight. the rebel fighters pushed towards tripoli after seizing the oil-rich port town of zawiya. just 30 miles down the road from the libyan capital. our sara sidner has been covering the fight for zawiya and finally it went the way of the rebels. sara, can you hear me? >> reporter: i can. i can hear

he is obviously going to talk to me about libya and he says that there's a huge potential for libya to turn into another afghanistan i missed out on thank you for talking to r.t. today now explain to me what the facts play that's all comparable between libya and afghanistan there are a lot of similarities here between. afghanistan and we have been nato intervention military intervention it is through this intervention is not actually sending troops on the ground but the. try to say. like afghanistan the other point is you know. to a failed state like what happened in afghanistan nobody can predict what will happen after we know who would be removed from power because he cannot actually fight and he has a good backup abilities but the big question is you know what transitional council which is the presenting that he will be able first to clean pain. differences you know divisions. whether it is capable but that seems i can. excellent overview of the issues in libya at the moment but let's talk about the more specifically first of all where do you think gadhafi is at the moment what's he

base trinity college says a libya could face the same fate as afghanistan. more people are going to be killed as it is need to his but the fighting. and yes patient forces troops on the ground. providing technical assistance by. oh you know means of being in touch with warplanes for bombing i mean the reason being on the ground right through it. sections of the. tree so i fear this is going to set precedent already armories it being read oh you know r.p.g. been stolen from the armory is this going to be you know uk two thousand and three or even worse is this going to be after the fall of the one that. previous and for the people of afghanistan. well it may still be fighting in tripoli but the new self-proclaimed government is wasting little time in setting up its future cash flow european oil giants given the go ahead by rebel officials have already begun moving in with italian company and i which had a close ties to spearheading the return and it's obvious that laura and it reports this time it's a services won't come cheap. delivered as a promise but seen

the money that came into libya which is gigantic. as the world bank attested as recently as two thousand and nine i think distributed with some degree of equity which should be the envy of people in the united states just to start with them now the other thing is the whole question of preached at the press here has been appalling and in england too and in france and in italy i can't speak for russia but. you know the justification was the supposed genocide of conduct against his people the human rights organizations amnesty international human rights watch have completely independent to be refuted these accusations the accusations of mass rape and so on and so point so the actual very basis of the intervention has been discredited not that the press is about the point this out so what you've had no is a situation where really nato is engaged in a regime toppling operation very like a nineteenth century imperial exercise by britain and xander i'm really sorry about this but we are actually out of time now and i'm so sorry to cut you o

has a contentious oil and gas exploration contract in libya which the u.k. government will be anxious for it to resume italian oil giant aig. and i is the first to send back to libya and it says rose on the knees french towel and. the dead well as investors hoped they'd soon be able to resume production in libya but at what price to the libyan people the great fear is that just as they did in iraq the creation democracy. interests or the west's interests for oil companies interests and does nothing for the people of libya nor. will the scenes of excitement and jubilant celebrations across libya recalled those in caro's tahrir square in february but the high expectations after the revolution have given way to disillusionment and dismay or he's going to look at how the latest events in libya have parallels in history. the cadet he regime is crumbling. the rebels are cheering. the. same cheers and tears could be seen in egypt in february as the nation ousted their longtime leader hosni mubarak but six months on many egyptians say their hopes have been crushed b

well from libya to syria now and the u.n. is increasing pressure on syria where deadly fighting between government forces and protesters have been raging for almost six months now the human rights council has ordered an investigation into alleged violations the u.n. says over two thousand protesters have been killed during the uprising well for more on the situation there in the country i'm joined by a political analyst kamel who is in the lebanese capital in beirut at the moment thank you very much indeed for joining us now if u.n. investigators discover there have been violations jury the crackdown what then what can be done about it. well obviously it's a very complicated issue and we know there was been using all their resources to have been the syrian regime and we seen that american sanctions followed by the european sanctions and they are using now their international court or the international human rights to find violation on my my as they will use this window to put more pressure on syria to asian obviously it's bee

but i do think the west was very very much behind that in libya. i think you know the hague the international court is very much involved in what's going to happen when they capture qaddafi which i have no doubt they will they will be very much involved they've already said that they want his sons in their custody which is kind of interesting i find but when qaddafi is captured and detained the international court out of the hague is sounds like it's going to step in so does that mean the people of libya are going to decide his fate i don't really think so i think the international court's going to decide his fate and i sound a little cynical when i say this i think maybe his trial and maybe who knows punishment execution life in prison may be in libya to make it look like the libyan people or are deciding his fate but i think that's already i think that as they say that forces left the bar and i think the international court's going to take it over a little earlier in a report from washington d.c. got to come with saying a bomb has been quoted as

libya is a tribal society. we take a look now at some of the challenges and that you could face in a post-gaddafi world. >> the council is likely to play a major role in the parse gaddafi area -- era. one of the most pressing tasks will be to prevent the outbreak. there are 140 tribes in libya. they can be divided into four groups. in the north are arabs. in the southeast, the nomadic group. in april, most of the larger tribes said that they no longer supported gaddafi. there are still groups that remain loyal to the libyan leader and say they are prepared to die for him. the question is, how can these gaddafi loyalists be integrated into inouye libya and how can they be kept from inflecting vengeance, especially after their heavy losses. he is calling for restraint. >> there is no longer any difference between libyans. the whole nation can rebuild the country in line with the constitution that makes no difference between sexes or tribes. >> some of the problems can be seen in the face of this man. the former r

of course with iraq unlike iraq iran libya is sitting on this vine. asked oil wealth and that complicates matters. severely but unlike iraq here in libya the coalition are saying that they've got this foundations government already in place this national transitional council already recognized by britain france germany pretty soon that will be keen to avoid another nick clegg the deputy prime minister has already said that they are in the long haul they saying they have learned those lessons and that is to let the insurgents revenge killings to try and achieve this smooth transition. bennett right there the white house meantime is hailed the rebels advance into tripoli saying the situation is at a turning tipping point president obama once again called on the libyan leader to acknowledge reality and give up power immediately as the u.n. mandate for nato's military mission there expires next month some are suggesting the timing of the battle for tripoli is no coincidence. president obama spoke earlier this sunday night saying tripoli is slipping from t

libya is celebrating. home in the united states, the celebrations may be satisfying to watch, but the feeling is tempered. like everything else, u.s. involvement in libya was conflicted. dennis kucinich accused president obama of a impeachment offense. senator mccain was critical, because he said president obama didn't move fast enough. americans weary of war were also concerned about the cost. according to the obama administration, the libya mission will cost american taxpayers $1.1 billion by september 30th. still, in just six months gadhafi is just about gone. remember he was slaughtering his own people. al jazeera the talk bulk today -- was u.s. involvement in libya worth it? facebook.com/carolcnn. i'll read your comments later this hour. >> thank you, carol. >>> the first hurricane of the atlantic season drenched puerto rico. irene could dumped perhaps 20 inches of rain on parts of the island. the storm is barely holding onto hurricane status, with top winds at 75 miles an hour, so irene could threate

in libya. there is so little civil society in libya there are so few and so democratic institutions are so weak they have nothing to build on and egypt in tunisia there was at least something to build on once the top filter was was was cut no way we're in libya that's not the case these people have to start from scratch and there are all kinds of reasons why it could fail what is the whole nature of the transitional council is the it's it's a mess and so these people are some of them are exiles some of their marmar have fled from there you could argue regime a few of them are islamicists some are intellectuals and college professors some are business people so just hanging together is going to be an enormously difficult task for them the other thing is that they've got to reprisals they've got they can't they can't they can't care for prices of their enemies that will just create the kind of civil strife that everyone was to award france planes to hold high level meeting next week to discuss li

presence in libya even the. resolution it's like trying to yes but keeping troops in the country means heavy costs drag on latest polls say most french people now oppose the military intervention this in p.c.'s for the bloodshed and the hefty price. to deal with it now is opposed by the govt i guess with his new memoir the war is far from over and this invasion is already costing much more than we get back the fears are growing that libya's new leaders are too divided to win the peace. points to the rebels murder last months of their military chief general yunis experts will widespread rebel looting and executions meet france's problems they have only just begun the new bushell altie paris. us government adviser on terrorism dr forever says gadhafi could still mount an offensive and the rebels also have serious political issues to deal with. the khadafi supporters the remnant of his army cannot at this point in time strategically because they are surrounded and isolated cannot revert back the entire conflict and

investigators traced the attack to libya. when libya refused to turn over the suspects the u.n. imposed tough sanctions, leaving the country isolated and increasingly destitute. after 11 years as an international outcast, gadhafi cut a deal. he gave up the lockerbie bombing suspects for trial and after the u.s. invaded iraq, he surprised the world by agreeing to destroy all of his chemical nuclear and biological weapons. gadhafi soon welcomed western oil companies like bp and total into libya. but questions linkered about whether some western oil contracts were traded for scotland's release of one of the convicted lockerbie bombers. and he didn't give up the bizarre behavior. on a 2009 visit to italy he invited 200 models to his ambassador' house, paying each $75 to listen to lectures on islam and giving each a copy of the koran. back home, patience was running thin. after more than 40 years, rebellion bubbled up in the eastern part of the country, quickly spreading across libya. as his government disintegrated he stayed in the same house bombed in 1986. >> translator: this is m

has a contentious oil and gas exploration contract in libya which the u.k. government will be anxious for it to resume italian all jayanti end i. it's the first to send back to libya and eight sads rose in the knees french to towel and three is a when the well as investors hopes they soon be able to review production in libya but it will price to the libyan people the great fear is that just as they did in iraq the creation democracy which the spanish interests the west's interests or oil companies interests and does nothing for the people of the newer and that's what's he come to and i think a lot of people start to talk about the situation in libya wrapping up we're entering a new chapter i think it's important to take a look back to february when we first heard the speech from president obama when he announced that libya needed our help the united states has maintained a set of core principles which guide or. these principles apply to the situation in libya so i said last week we strongly condemn the use of violence in libya the american people extend our

that was the birthday of libya.his gave me the best birthday present i ever had, freedom. 1200 prisoners were set free on the 21st of august. today, 500 prisoners were also released. the rebels destroyed the prison gates and rushed in and set us all free. we are proud of our freedom then we are now safe among our brothers and freedom fighters. >> that was the voice of al habeeb al a meaamin. rebels are moving to the gaddafi stronghold of sert. [explosion] >> it is not over yet. although the battlefield is shrinking. ♪ these rebels are pushing up reinforcements. they're facing a stubborn enemy. with 60 miles from sert, gaddafi's home town. they have not been falling back. far from it. >> we were engaged with the enemy with heavy artillery. i think they're coming from sert. >> they're still attacking. >> that is what you can see now. they are attacking as . >> they believe they are facing more than a thousand of gaddafi troops further up the road. they are baffled by the continued resistance . >> gaddafi ran away. the

no the future government of libya heading heads of these foreign. support we'll be very very grateful and. very helpful to these current just this group of nato countries for them to receive the future contours of for the rebuilding the economy of libya. you know russia they have no chance to have the same equal. treatment of the countless which have helped with the opposition in libya to believe this week three. will be following the dramatic events in libya on air and online throughout the day so to stay with us here and i think i'll be back with the latest headlines in just a few minutes from now before that we have the business news with kareem. hello and welcome to our business up at this hour start with oil prices are falling sharply code is sliding as needed rebels appear to be on the verge of ousting the cloth it was aimed and christine says coronal from standard and poor's says brant crude is likely to hit the one hundred dollars per barrel mark. well he needed to fix this particularly with brandy because it is more sensitive to what's happ

treatment of the countess which helped the opposition in libya to be in this week. and we'll be following the dramatic events in libya on air and online throughout the day so do stay with us here on r.t. now i'll be back with the latest headlines in just a few minutes from now before that we have the business news with kareen. my. hello and welcome to our business update this hour we stop with oil prices are falling sharply sliding as leading rebels appear to be on the verge of ousting they could off the regime and christine just coronato from standard and poor's says brant crude is likely to hit the one hundred dollars per barrel mark. well if you needed to affect this particularly with brenda because it is more sensitive to what's happening in the region board before it to calm down but you have to realize that the thing seemed libya have not actually been resolved. khadafi the forces good steel play for counter-offensive so things have not been resolved but if things do get settled then we will see prior the price of grain coming down but we must not forget thoug

or the money from libya. they may kill innocent people. >> reporter: when libya was implicated in a 1986 berlin nightclub bombing that killed two american servicemen, though, the u.s. struck back. >> this mad dog of the middle east has a goal of a world revolution. >> reporter: president reagan ordered air strikes on gadhafi's compound, reportedly killing his 15-month-old adopted daughter. two years later, in what many believe was gadhafi's response, a bomb blew up pan am 103 over lockerbie, scotland, killing 270 people. gadhafi denied ordering the bombing. >> translator: as i stated, we had nothing to do with it. >> reporter: but he later paid compensation to the families of the american victims and provided a libyan suspect, abdel baset al megrahi, and perhaps the image of what happened to another middle eastern strongman who hung on for too long, saddam hussein, had changed from ally to pariah, he shut down his nuclear research program, he granted western oil companies lucrative contracts, but he never los

libya, we are united. free libya. there's a lot of [ inaudible ] you ride along, seeing hundreds of people, for example, out of their homes. what you are seeing is long stretches of no one, shuttered buildings, shuttered homes, nobody around, and then suddenly you find where there are a few families on their balconies or at street level and cheering or chanting as the rebels pass to and fro from the middle of the city center out, the rebels clearly have a handle on getting in and out of neighborhoods. they are going neighborhood to neighborhood, trying to what they told us, clear those neighborhood of remaining gadhafi forces including snipers. that's what the situation is right now. we're not seeing at this point and in this neighborhood, any evidence that gadhafi troops are still here in this particular part of tripoli. >> sarah, initially we heard that one of gadhafi sons was leading a small force in tripoli. do you know anything more about that? >> we've heard nothing, but rumors are absolutely rampant. they have