so i have for you on the program a new showdown looms in libya. the women's rights movement rally and mobilize a nationwide as a libya's interim leader is desperate for support pander to powerful islamic factions. and iran nuclear talks are due for a fresh round trip but while the iraq obama hopes they will drown out his saber rattling senators israel still looks poised to strike. representing the british people in parliament can be thirsty work and it seems some m.p.'s are enjoying the perks of the commons a bit too much with a late night brawl just one of a number of alcohol induced episodes our london correspondent laura smith looks at why the word order is more likely to be heard in the bar than in the chamber. actually yes. this behavior by members of parliament now not an uncommon sight on our t.v.'s ever since the late eighty's when cameras were allowed inside but are they trying on power all simply truck we have heard about stories of very physically carried through the voting lobbies which. would have i mean any other. joke where you coul

respected and guaranteed in the new libya. as i explained in the 19th session of the human rights council in geneva, less than a week ago, several concrete steps towards ensuring that the human rights of all libyans have already been taken, while these rights have been and will be investigated, in this regard, we have formed an inner ministerial committee shared by the minister of justice and with membership of the men industry inistry of civil society. libyans fought for justice and the rule of law and it is this government's mission to lay their found occasions. we have a diversity of people in libya, but our differences are rooted in the past, not in the future. we believe in equality and equal opportunities for all. we all believe in a libya in which second class citizens or regions have no place. a libya in which all libyans regardless of back ground, gender affiliation, ethnicity, have freedom, equal rights, access to opportunities and a voice in civic affairs. we all believe in a country in which women and youth have a

and creating the new libya. that is the government private sector and the civil society. civil society is flourishing doing a great job there. we meet with them. very, very well. >> i think we have room rquesti. so let's take three or four. >> thank you. mr. prime minister, thank you for your remarks. my question for you is this -- would you, would you welcome the russian companies back to libya? and will you, will your government, when the contracts end, deals struck under the gadhafi regime. and what will be projects, including those with russian participation, which have been suspd? discuss -- do yoings with the russian government? thank you. >> yes, sir. >> jacques romani, university of maryland, libya scholar. mr. prime minister, your excellency. i have a two-part question, focused on minorities. secretary pra praised building of democracy under your leadership. i know libya faces multiple challenges ahead. could you kindly tell us your government's thinking about including and that which lived in libya for

libya will prove these wrong. we are blessed with many factors in our favor, including our oft cited natural resources. but above all we have pride, we have pride and confidence in the knowledge that we overcame one of the most brutal and dangerous dictatorships of the modern age. over the past year,

this has guided by our approach from libya and elsewhere i mean looking at what's happening over in libya is intervening in syria really a good idea it's a terrible idea and sacks saying. i would like to define what america calls diplomacy from there a little bit. and i have to do out of the way. to try to lose maybe a little intervening in syria nato is you know so many weeks maybe months cie has the britons in my city says they're special forces from france from america from here. and he just makes it in the news if people in america old media need to use their rules they receive a word about this this is who we have been tempted in the last in the last week or so hundred i. don't mean to interrupt you there we're just out of time thank you very much for coming on the show that with even london writer and host of progressive radio news hour. is. how the u.s. now in the process of weighing its options of intervention in syria chants about the dangers of iran getting louder and louder on politicians than the mainstream media but america's extensive war history we take a lock or have a cou

was kind of unified as the states in the fifty's and also commenting on the situation in libya. beirut based research for the syracuse university says that what's happening in libya right now is what caused the intervention in the first place. the country is in chaos right now it's heartbreaking and outrageous as president obama said about the situation in syria no this iteration in libya is the way we hear about militias torturing people who are suspected of supporting qaddafi in the past and there was a hideous story today about someone's thinker's getting cut off because he was horsewhipped on the hand repeatedly over and over again until his fingers were severed these are crimes against humanity that are happening in libya and there is no outcry by the international community the same international community that called for a no fly zone in libya to save civilians to save people's lives so really it's a very dangerous situation we don't know who has what capacity right now to attack other people in other tribes and so it's very difficult political solution is required for th

but defense secretary leon panetta and army general martin dempsey said a no fly zone similar to libya's would be a challenge perhaps because of the syrian army's higher competence and military capabilities u.s. lawmakers are also trying to push through a fresh bunch of financial sanctions against syria and a calling for president assad to be referred to the war crimes tribunal but experts inside syria believe the more foreign powers intervene the more violent the crisis becomes as artie's mir for national discovers in damascus. as the syrian conflict stretches down sometimes it has also spread geographically. i case of the uprising i felt far from the country's borders what's happening in syria is heartbreaking. rages and what you've seen is the international community mobilize against the assad regime strategic analyst dr salinas says one thing is clear though it's certainly gone far beyond the words of sympathy and according to those on the ground in syria that mobilisation has many more forms than officially stated. during the operation in baba amr the syrian army arrested fighters f

so i guarantee you, it will be a different libya. transparence, see, i told you, we have woman and young ladies in libya that we are so proud of. this is a difficult question, i cannot answer all of it, but i'll touch parts of it. in terms of transparency, if nothing he is, fighting corruption and transparency are two things that we want to make sure that we -- that they exist strongly. so we have been doing whatever we can. our books are open. anybody can look into them. i mean, legitimate groups can look into them. and we are -- i'll be talking today to the world bank, we want to see how we can create even more transparency into the system. we will be also looking into the open government concept. sending someone higher level to attend this coming -- the up coming conference in brazil. so -- but we are very serious about this. i mean, corruption has been -- libya was up there in the -- in that scale, you know? we do not want that to happen anymore. so we work very hard. now, this is -- she raised, mentioned that we are not, we are

guided from our approach from libya looking at what's happening there in libya is intervening in syria really a good idea i know it's a terrible idea and i'm appalled that people in the congress and the foreign policy elite actually have the gall to be calling for any sort of serious intervention it would it would by most accounts escalate the violence and put more simply risk and decides it's a civil war that the u.s. again has trouble taking sides on because of course there are crimes on both sides it would end very disastrously we should be happy that the obama destruction has been sort of reluctant to get fully involved oh there might be some involvement behind the scenes that we're not so sure now as the death toll rises and more bloodshed happens every day. foreign powers be blamed for allowing it to go on by not intervening. well they could and they probably will. if it if it is the case that more and more. death occurs and actually powers don't intervene but you know it's not it's not the proper are going to be made what is what we should recognize which is pretty clear among m

libya might be an exception minute to this. so let us wait and see and i'm not quite confident the they're good they're going to do as well as they did in the plantains but what about the al qaeda presence in libya how big of a possibility is it that they will gain a foothold in the country talks here are typically in the theoretically speaking and we. can be filled by anybody in the world and it's a fertile soil you know folks whom isn't together or so it's in their interest to reveal whether the libyans among libyans you know have a very commanding government as a term of the government and police as soon as possible. now looking back at the need to intervention and hindsight do you think this was inevitable or was it detrimental in that it could have been a less militarized and different libya. one of the first of the international community intervention because it was not only need to there were none need to remember such as put on their merits intervention but the international community was very decisive to help our fight

it what i like to say in this regard is that in the case of libya libya was a bit of a people it didn't have a function instead before the uprising in i mean gaddafi had no judiciary he was the states he and his family there was no a constitution more parliament as as we know it and this was the problem once he was overthrown the libyan people found themselves in a situation where they had to build a state from scratch from zero and this is a problem it is the both of us we are seeing the growth plans of us the from from its very beginning and sought to in iraq what happens to all guns august third world war this no good the army the judiciary. everything was dismantled and this is why we had met him and confusion that followed you know after the defeat of saddam hussein in tunisia the institutions of there remained in place we had the parliament we have the judiciary and and electoral process was able to. jump in here we've run out of time fascinating discussion about the fate of the of the arab spring many thanks my guest today in washington and in london and thanks to our viewers for

when i went to libya, as an example, the u.s. and nato, are naturally popular, and there's a lot of appreciation for it because in their hour of need we were in. and i hope and pray that we can come to do that again with regard to syria. i agree we should not do it alone, but without leadership, and being prepared as you suggested to provide the critical resources, it will not be successful and it will not happen in a timely way. to me, i've kept saying that the factors that led us into libya with our international coalition, they are here and happening. we worried mostly about a humantarian disaster, you said it why libya is different, and i want to offer a different view. there was widespread support in the security council in the arab be league for military intervention in libya, no such consensus exists for syria, and that is literally true, and that is particularly because of russia and china. within the arab league, there's clearly a lot of interest in a military intervention in syria, same is true of the gulf coordinating

man who led libya's anti gadhafi uprising exclusively tells our t.v. that too many powers were interested in silencing the colonel mahmoud jibril also accuses nato of abandoning the country after i would say need old regime. pressure mounts on north korea over its satellite plans as world leaders gather in seoul for a nuclear summit ahead of the meeting a u.s. president barack obama promised to punish if it goes ahead with the launch. and better off dead at least that's the message from the israeli military when it comes to their own kidnapped troops after israel's marketing of a thousand prisoners to return one soldier service personnel are being urged to kill themselves or each other to avoid capture. time now to delve into the world of sports with kate. well disposed in the headlines. drives tiger woods holds off cram it down so when arnold palmer invitational his first tour win since september two thousand and nine the tense of the world's top ten. while united in russia but now i can certainly comes attack at manchester united. this is not a victo

and the first popular revolution in the history of libya broke out. however, the road to dignity, equality and freedom was very costly. the brutal regime could not adhere to the will of the libyan people without a verb issues figh fight.it promised and i quote rivers of blood.issues fight.it promised and i quote rivers of blood. close quote. and i quote, hundreds of thousands of deaths, close quote. and it was determined to deliver on that unwavering promise the most violence attacks were launched against our people, supposedly his people. fire was open on unarmed protesters and heavy weapons were used to crush them and crush them forever. but they were not to be crushed. that was the moment and the tenacity in which the tide of history was turned. our brave men and women armed with nothing but courage and resolve faced a well prepared and well equipped gadhafi army. untrained but determined men thirsty for freedom picked up weapons to fight, picked up weapons for the first time to fight. women pushed their son, brother, husbands and fathers to join t

guided by our approach from libya and elsewhere. as guided by our approach from libya and elsewhere so i mean looking at what is happening there and let ya intervening in syria really a bad idea. well multiply all the problems we all klein about to maybe one million or ten million and you can that this is going to be a syria ruled by a needle puppet or a maybe a sunni hard core muslim brotherhood government ally with a house of solid make up artist this is going to what is going to happen so it's out of the question look your previous story was excellent because it showed what kind of people have been working inside syria we have been writing and talking about this for months in out once again there's graphic proof qatari agents british intelligence french intelligence this really mossad including supplying of weapons so this so-called free syrian army then these people who are going izing the. let's see the resistance in baba amr some of them were captured maybe as many as six hundred or seven hundred operatives and this proves tha

also touched on nato is probably come play in over libya last year during which more than one hundred civilians fell victim to a lie and say raids instances organizations refusing to investigate important was in new york with more on that meeting. a new report that was quietly released by the united nations on friday that report was an investigation that found in part that nato has not sufficiently investigated the air raids it conducted on libya in two thousand and eleven that killed at least sixty civilians and injured at least fifty five more people despite the findings of this two hundred twenty page report nato officials have refused so far to further investigate the states how these war casualties this report was before into another russian basket or to the united nations vitaly churkin also went on to say that water has not yet been established nearly or more than a year after a nato carried out its airstrikes to allegedly bring on more peace a peaceful and secure circumstance to libya this situation is still very dangerous but what is it if you will we have expressed concern a

is that literalism is not popular in libya people are still clinched the unity of the country. considered what took place is an outcry it's a fear of being marginalized again because they've been marginalized for forty two years by the old regime the libyans branch of the muslim brotherhood bravest out the shop political party it's called the justice and development party observers were saying that this is probably because they were encouraged by the words the stuff on television the will in october he said that the law should be the basis of the future legal system of libya now is shari'a law compatible with the democratic principles you'd like to start with to the country. first of all the muslim brotherhood of the. political parties to express their points of view i think this is the natural right to do so with and they have equal rights as if every other libyans has for mr to lead when he expresses his point of view he has his point of view as an individual and his point of view inflicts only his feeling and his perspective you know but it's not. commanding or it's not this

still ahead for you in the program a closer look at life in libya. we explore what women in the country were hoping to gain from the revolution and whether they are happy with the outcome. they are there to solve the case pressing problems but it seems m.p.'s need some help to a recent arrest of a labor m.p. after a late night brawl in the house of commons bar is just the latest in a string of alcohol fuelled scandals artie's laura smith reports on how some parliamentarians are said to be drinking their way through life that westminster. yes ruthless behavior by members of parliament now not an uncommon sight on our t.v.'s ever since the late eighty's when cameras were allowed inside but are they trying on power all simply truck you have heard about stories of entries from physically carried through voting obvious which. would have hardly any other. job where you could get that drunk work the sax thirteen year parliamentary veteran lembit pic has seen the seedy underbelly of life in the house of commons where m.p.'s have been known to vote on matters

what we did in libya was the right thing. we had the support of the international community, the support of the region, and we protected the lives of hundreds of thousands of civilians that were at imminent risk of slaughter. the decision that the united statess security council took a year ago this week has proved its worth. gadhafi is gone. the libyan people are now working to constitute, under great challenge, a democratic future, a democratic system. their transition is on track. we were able to accomplish this without a single loss of american life. in a shared operation of burden-sharing after the united states played a critical role in the early days. our nato partners and arab partners took the lead and sustained the operation with u.s. support. so i think that proved its worth. i can't speculate, sir, in all honesty, on where we may end up in any other circumstance or contingency. i know that the administration and the president fully and completely respect the role of congress in decisions on war and peace. and we w

outrage at training camps for syrian revolution is discovered in libya plus. a member of parliament might go into the bar and have a few drinks instead of having dinner. in the morning they thought it was a good idea to go into the house of commons and try and take part in the debate. whining on in parliament u.k. m.p.'s are on the path to being under the influence even casting important votes. you're watching a lot here very warm welcome to. now the white house may be claiming it wants a diplomatic solution in syria but it seems it may not have faith in its own convictions the pentagon has been ordered to review its potential options to officials he's all for sort of a no fly zone in the military and it's. also a long term sustained campaign and would pose a challenge because serious air defenses are sophisticated in libya's times when for national reports growing foreign interference in the syrian conflict is raising fears of an even bigger crisis. as the syrian conflict stress she sounds time has also spread geographically i case the prize it felt far from

it was easier and libya. in syria here in the u.k. the operation in libya has been heralded as a success do you agree with that assessment and do you feel that it's created more of that site for intervention in the region in general we have to remember that actually. occupied iraq president bush said you know drop our compilation they were very happy with their success there and look what happened after nine years the worst was defeated. you know american administration lost more than a trillion dollar bear and they gave iraq in a golden plate pretty around so the same thing happened in afghanistan where they claimed that the invasion of afghanistan was a success after ten years actually we are talking to reinstate them in power again so it could be the same thing in libya they said it was easy and i actually didn't lose a single soldier he was. there evolutionary are there so but it isn't going to be the same in a year's time and pull years time in five years already leave libya is i failed state. three thousand. you know missiles su

from some senior lawmakers to start bombing syria he said the conflict is much more complicated than libya where nato waited with deadly air strikes last year across developments in washington is out he's got a church of cameras catch up with a gun he either violence has been raging in syria for nearly a year now thousands of been killed what is president obama's reasoning for refusing to get directly involved what did he have to say. but have any basically said we can't resolve every issue by deploying the military we have to look at the consequences there was a suggestion from senator mccain that made a splash he said the u.s. should launch an attack on syria no matter what the u.n. security council thinks about it president obama's response basically was that such talk comes from people who don't consider the consequences the president said a unilateral action against syria would be a mistake and that the situation in syria is not complicated than it was in libya in the meantime violent violence there continues russia and china call for both the government and the armed opposition group

do you think that libya was taken advantage of. because because of quote because it was a flowing through the words you know during the difficult there was no interruption or told for who were saying is that after the regime failed. most of the with some countries fail the mission has been accomplished they neglect the fact that libya is a stateless psyche it's not the museum. was known. ended up in a political vacuum there point we need to repeat this type show with national we need help to lead us to collect from the street and prepare the country for elections this is there is in there that we need help with unfortunately the kind of assistance provided by potential friends. talk about. the three million jews developing civil society. training woman these are very important things but they are not productive for the time being and the feel indebted to those foreign powers those countries that help support your cause. we feel sincere gratitude and appreciation for what they did to help with us tremendously they supplied us with p

share with us some information concerning the loss, financial loss, suffered by chinese companies in libya as well as the latest situation of their engagement in the after-war reconstruction in that country? the second part of my question is, what kinds of measures will the chinese government employ in order to ensure the interest and rights of chinese companies working abroad, particularly in libya and other arab countries, because recently we have seen some turbulence or turmoil in some arab countries causing financial losses of chinese companies. so what will the chinese government do to safeguard the interests of chinese companies in those arab countries and how to develop the economy relations with those arab countries. thank you. [ speaking in foreign language ]. >> translator: protecting the property, project to safety as well as the safety of our workers working abroad has always been the top priority of the entire chinese government including all the government authorities. this is a very important task for all of us. and the incident took place in a very uncertain manner, and we

and libya actually there was a u.n. security council resolution as one seven one nine seven three which actually allowing. or international community to protect civilians by all means in the view so. when you look at it in syria i believe because of the. trainees intervention tool supports an interview. because actually it is normal in syria we can see that community is completely paralyzed and scared. couldn't actually. believe in syria and also. from the military point of view could be extremely costly for them to intervene in syria is very strong country has a very strong army and all saw very. recent or modern weaponry so the clues it was easy to write in syria and libya but they couldn't in syria here in the u.k. the operation in libya has been heralded as a success do you agree with that assessment and do you feel that it's creating more of a site for intervention in the region in general we have to remember that actually when. occupied iraq president bush said you know job accomplished and they were very happy wi

some call it an obligation others a blood lust of sorts from afghanistan to iraq to libya american military officials seem happy to send firepower to whichever region comes calling but given all the trouble still plaguing the middle east and a disagreement over how much is actually going to cause is the u.s. experiencing intervention over long. good afternoon it's monday march nineteenth four pm here in washington d.c. i'm christine friends out there watching our t.v. . well over the weekend one hundred gathered to mark an important anniversary six months since the occupy wall street movement all began the rally was in zuccotti park new york city and organizers say the sun is out spring is here and that we're going to be seeing a lot more of them but it was just a few months ago there were thousands of them and some critics say it's not just the occupations that are gone but the momentum as well i want to talk more about this movement with christina gonzalez she's an activist with occupy wall street and she was out this weekend rally. hey there christine let's talk first about the rally on

last year and expresses outrage over training camps for syrian revolutionaries discovered in libya plus. a member of the we might go into the ball and have a few drinks instead of having dinner on by will chew it up in the morning because it was a good idea to go into the house of commons and try to take part in the debate. winding on in parliament u.k. and these are under fire from often being under the influence even while passing important votes. mary warm welcome to you on karan taraji two o'clock here in moscow and with your top story the white house may be claiming it wants a diplomatic solution in syria but it seems it may not have faith in its own convictions about saddam has been ordered to review its potential options according to officials and these include the enforcement of a no fly zone and humanitarian airlifts but defense secretary leon panetta also warns that a long term a sustained to air campaign what poses a challenge because syria's air defenses are more sophisticated than libya's but as archie's maria finn lost. the reports growing foreign interference in the syria

eastern libya the first one is education no egypt was on always a mission on this or that libya and it's only because of italian colonization that's. not true leadership and on the other side i believe that a country like. we are really pleased if they can create a new all in one arche in seven eight because these kind of small stage would probably be belonging to the u.k. and they probably want. a new state in that part of the world you'd think when you are since the un and the nato coalition said this train into motion in the first place they'd be trying to help keep the country together and head into his new chapter would be you well i'm sorry has worse terror i just need to only succeed to create chaos in libya and. it will be not able to do the same in syria but the problem is nato has been able to do the same due to the power in tripoli that nato is absolutely unable to solve the actor the situation and they are responsible as well of the levy and then there was of all the turn morally in libya as well in the rest of the saga i'm thinking in particular of the problem you know . eri

when i went to libya, as an example, the u.s. and nato, are naturally popular, and there's a lot of appreciation for it because in their hour of need we were in. and i hope and pray that we can come to do that again with regard to syria. i agree we should not do it alone, but without leadership, and being prepared as you suggested to provide the critical resources, it will not be successful and it will not happen in a timely way. to me, i've kept saying that the factors that led us into libya with our international coalition, they are here and happening. we worried mostly about a humantarian disaster, you said it why libya is different, and i want to offer a different view. there was widespread support in the security council in the arab be league for military intervention in libya, no such consensus exists for syria, and that is literally true, and that is particularly because of russia and china. within the arab league, there's clearly a lot of interest in a military intervention in syria, same is true of the gulf coordinating

outrage of training camps for syrian revolution is discovered in libya also. a member of parliament might go into the bar and have a few drinks instead of having dinner by one o'clock in the morning they thought it was a good idea to go into the house of commons and try and take part in the debate. winding down in parliament u k m p's are under fire from being under the influence even while costing important votes. international news and comments twenty four hours a day this is out of the white house maybe claiming it once a diplomatic solution in syria but it seems it may not have faith in its own convictions the pentagon has been ordered to review its potential options according to officials these are too good for sort of a no fly zone and military and its defense secretary leon panetta also. sustained a campaign to pose a challenge to serious offenses the most sophisticated in the. darkness one for national reports growing up foreign interference in the syrian conflict is raising fears of an even bigger crisis. as the syrian conflict stretches i think it ha

emirates and in the last expresses outrage over training camps for surrender who shoots discover and libya. a member of parliament might go into the bar and have a few tricks sort of having dinner by one or two o'clock in the morning it was a good idea to go into the house of commons and try to take part in the debate. winding on in parliament u.k. m.p.'s are under fire for being under the influence of costly puts. your watching out world news are much more welcome to the program we might house maybe claiming it once a diplomatic solution in syria but it seems it may not have anything its own convictions the pentagon has been ordered to review its potential options according to officials these include the enforcement of a no fly monetary and its defense secretary leon panetta also warned that a long term sustained campaign would pose a challenge as soon as this is a more sophisticated and libya's. national reports are growing foreign interference in the syrian conflict is raising fears of an even bigger crisis. as the syrian conflict. high. it has also spread geographically by case of the

and libya actually u.n. security council resolutions one seven one nine seventy three which actually allowed in the. or international community to protect civilians by all means in libya so. when you look at this and syria i believe because of the trainees intervention. support. because actually there is no. syria we can see the arab community is completely paralyzed on the scale of the. security council resolutions to intervene in syria and also you know from the military point of view what could be extremely costly for them to intervene in syria is a pretty strong country has a very strong we all saw very very soon. so. it was easier i didn't see it and leave it couldn't be seen in syria here in the u.k. the operation in libya has been heralded as a success do you agree with that assessment and do you feel that it's creating more of a site for intervention in the region in general we have to remember that actually when. occupied iraq president bush said you know drop out they were very happy with the sec s

and some call it an obligation others of love the best of sorts from afghanistan to iraq to libya american military officials seem happy to send firepower to whichever region comes calling but given all the trouble still plaguing the middle east and a disagreement about how much is actually going to conflict is the u.s. experiencing intervention overlong. good evening it's monday march nineteenth it's seven pm here in washington d.c. my name is christine for us out there watching our team. well six months on where are we now this past saturday marked the six month anniversary of occupy wall street and hundreds of people gathered at zuccotti park in new york city to celebrate and to send a message that this movement is still alive and kicking but what's ahead for the movement and how will protesters deal with all challenges in a new year especially now that the sun is out again and several actions are planned for the coming months let's bring in protester matthew sway who's in our studios in new york city. every month you tell us first what it was like over the weekend at zuccotti park well

and libya actually u.n. security council resolutions one seven one one seven three which actually allow into. or in the national community to protect civilians by all means and leave you so. these when you look at us and syria i believe because of the russian and chinese intervention tool support. actually there is no. syria we can see that the national community is completely paralyzed and it's clear the couldn't actually. see you in security council resolutions to intervene in syria and also you know from the military point of view with could be extremely costly for them to intervene in syria is very strong country has a very strong army and all saw very. recent or modern weaponry so. it was easy and lead but it couldn't be that soon here in the u.k. the operation in libya has been heralded as a success do you agree with that assessment and do you feel that it's created more appetite for intervention in the region in general we have to remember that actually when. and occupied iraq president bush said you