it's feared violence could escalate further in libya russia imposing sanctions against gadhafi regime banning the export of weapons and military equipment. and libya in never to be on the agenda as the vice president of the united states meets with the russian leadership and opposition in moscow boosting trade ties is also one joe biden's list as he joined blood in europe on day two of his visit. and more thoughts now on libya as r.t. hears from britain's former ambassador to the country oliver miles says global reaction such as the un's travel ban on khadafi is questionable stay with us. today i'm talking to all of the miles he's a former british ambassador snippy we're going to be talking about the situation in the country at the moment the rest response to it and how it might sound cold out of all thank you very much for talking to see now isn't the west's response to the situation in libya dangerously close to what we saw before the invasion of iraq i'm thinking of the flies a these claims that we've heard stats gadhafi has chemical weapons and i'll say this talk around the world

it's feared violence could escalate further in libya russia's imposing sanctions against gadhafi regime banning the export of weapons and military hardware. in libya inevitably on the agenda u.s. vice president needs the russian leadership and opposition in moscow boosting trade ties also one joe biden as was does he joins a lot of your putin on day two of his visit. more thoughts on libya now is our to hear from britain's former ambassador to the country oliver miles says the reaction such as the un's travel ban on khadafi is in his opinion questionable. today i'm talking to you all of the miles he's a former british ambassador we're going to be talking about the situation in the country at the moment the west response to it and how it might unfold out of miles thank you very much for talking to r.t. now isn't the west's response to the situation in libya dangerously close to what we saw before the invasion of iraq i'm thinking of this pre-pay snow flies saying these claims that we've heard that he has chemical weapons and also this talk around the world of military intervention. well

prime minister to retire waited they would not back any military any international intervention in libya russia has a veto on the u.s. curiously council which means that without russia saying yes to that plan we could not be enforced another interesting thing is what washington could potentially offer to moscow in exchange for its voice be with us as it once was the case with iran and north korea it was mentioning as well that russia is actually taking a very very reasonable approach when it comes to the middle east crisis and when it comes to leading up to tikrit italian press office today reported that the president signed a ban on exporting any weaponry and military hardware to this country the agenda of joe biden in moscow was very robust as he's been meeting with the president is about to meet the prime minister also he'll be holding talks with the opposition leaders however it seems the focus these time is on building stronger economic ties immediate political thought the united states accounted for less than four percent of russia's external trade last year that is a cause way beyond the

good morning to you about going into this meeting can you just remind us where russia stands on libya and what exactly does washington expect from the kremlin. good morning tara so well washington is seeking russia's support for possible military action in libya russia has a veto on the u.n. . security council so without russia saying yes to the plan to impose a no fly zone over these country it could not be enforced and the u.s. of course is well aware of that so believe it was the top be hard to avoid cheering joseph biden stalks the russian president on one state well russia strongly opposes the plan to impose a no fly zone over libya which would mean that any plane taking off could be shut down and that would also mean that anti aircraft systems of libya would be neutralized to make it safe for nato to patrol the skies over russia stan says that no international intervention is possible when it comes to libya's domestic affairs so it will be interesting to see what the outcome will be of those talks and how they could inflows the u.s. further steps when it comes to the crisis see

rebel held city of benghazi to prevent attacks against civilians now russia has said it regrets the decision to take military action in libya. will russia's foreign ministry as i've already says is much regressing this international intervention it's a call them all sides to do what they can do to stop the suffering of peaceful citizens and agree on an immediate cease fire well i know that we can cross live to service she's outside the foreign ministry there in central moscow catherine tell us more about moscow's reaction to these latest events. and most reaction was perhaps somewhat predictable because last night was always against the possibility of a military intervention in libya but of course that was still a possibility now that it has become a reality moscow is expressing great concerns over this these latest developments and if the south strikes on libya that have already occurred of course we do know that there have already been civilian casualties and that has been a great concern for of moscow officials and political analysts are like all saying that this development could lead to an increase in civilian casualti

more risk as casualties civilian casualties continue to rise on the ground in libya says a very strong reaction from russia on the current the e.u. and american forces present in libya. and that artie's country not as part of a following brosnan's reactions to what's happening in libya. well inside libya the international coalition says aerial strikes have successfully halted the forces of colonel gadhafi western officials claim to have destroyed a command center used quite well be an army in the capital tripoli more than one hundred air strikes were carried out across the week with reports over sixty people were killed artie's polis lior has the details from tripoli. we are hearing from the pentagon that it is extremely satisfied with the way this operation is being conducted if there's a khadafi is increasingly under stress that they have managed to isolate and scatter his forces we're also hearing that washington in a matter of just days will be ready to relinquish control of this whole operation over the situation remains incredibly tense people are certainly incredibly frightened in the capital city o

is now considering imposing a no fly zone over libya. russia strongly opposes that moscow's it's against international intervention in what it believes is the levy under massacre and the u.s. is now seeking for russia's support for action in e.v.a.'s as russia has a veto on the year's curity council that means that without russia saying yes to the no fly zone plan this plan could not be enforced or for more insight on the talks and what the might mean apart relations between the u.s. and russia are now joined by democrat strategist chris is in washington thanks so much for joining us here on r.t. let's talk about the libyan issue what do you see as the stumbling blocks in relations between the two over the issue there in libya. well i think just as the united states is cautious sometimes about russia in maybe being expansionist i think that russia has a right to be cautious about the united states and what our intentions are but i do think that. while there may be a little agree disagreements about some things i think that anything the united s

to do with regard to libya i don't think he has a mandate to ask for russia's support for any sort of intervention into libya because there's no agreement within the united states and of course within the age or whether it should intervene in to leave. but coordination i think will be on the table arms embargo possibly abstaining from. support for the libyan regime and so forth that's going to be negotiated but that's normal diplomatic ordination ok well by meeting russian opposition leaders in moscow was well might that have an impact with a touch of the u.s. with the russian government. well you know the gender of any visit by a top u.s. official to russia would inevitably include a meeting with civil society representatives and so i think should russian top officials do when they come to washington. that's you know business as usual and of course many people would argue for russian opposition figures it's not the best thing to do to ask u.s. consul parts to sanction their russian opponents but that said i think it's very nature thing to do to hear from civil society representatives

in time and street violence escalate further in libya russia's imposing sanctions against the daffy's regime banning the export of weapons military equipment. and libya's never intended to as america's vice president leads the russian leadership on opposition here in moscow boosting trade ties is also on joe biden's list as he joins but in a protest on the second day as. well more thoughts about libya now as r.t. has from former ambassador to the country oliver miles says global reaction such as the un's travel ban on gadhafi is highly questionable. today i'm talking to all of the miles who's a former british ambassador to libya we're going to be talking about the situation in the country at the moment the west's response to it and how it might sound old oliver miles thank you very much for talking to r.t. now isn't the west's response to the situation in libya dangerously close to what we saw before the invasion of iraq i'm thinking of this proposed no fly zone these claims that we've heard that he has chemical weapons and also this talk around the world of military intervention. wel

when they were the same persons selling arms to libya russia china and india abdicated their responsibility in the security council by giving susan rice believe to use very loose land which to get into libya we need to say very clearly that the united states britain and france must be seized from any further military involvement in libya and that it is not their rule to cut out regime change in fact what this would be doing is actually strengthening the credibility of the daffy to print sentence says wasn't and can clearly the transitional national council of libya must mobilize the people of libya to remove gadhafi it is the rule of the libyans and africans to remove gadhafi not the western europeans who got out there over the past forty one years horace brings up an interesting point in the countries that he i mean there is the the international opinion is is is closing in on this i mean russia china and other countries have said here enough is enough i mean that you're bombing campaign it is achieved enough i mean it's what the u.n. resolution asked for and it's not

it's feared violence could escalate further in libya russia is imposing sanctions against the regime and banning the export of weapons and military equipment. in libya inevitably on the agenda as the u.s. vice president meets the russian leadership and opposition in moscow who saying trade ties also on joe biden's list as he joins us right here putin on the second day of his visit. next spotlight talks to the u.n. general assembly president about the challenges brought on by turmoil in libya stay with us that's coming up next. hello again the welcome to spotlight the interview show on our seat aisle there now and today my guest in the studio is just the ice libyan leader of the garfield is bali people to stay in power trucks and shelling by forces loyal to force the rebels to turn to the united nations calling for international recognition of the new leadership in libya so how will the u.n. behave in this tricky situation here's the president of the u.n. general assembly just a. switzerland has always avoided membership to any major political organization thus appearing to a policy of

the skies over libya russia strongly opposes those plans and says it is not necessary and no international intervention should take place if we talk about media's domestic affairs and of course the u.s. is seeking russia's support for action immediately because russia has a veto on the years of community council which means that it russia doesn't say yes to that to those players they could not be forced. all right are you carrying a grudge over poured in from central moscow thanks to the. thousands of muslim refugees escaping violence in north africa have found their way to europe what they will find there are nations already struggling to live with their own immigrant populations in a british town of loot on the large muslim community is being confronted by a strong thor right sentiment or he said or am it takes a look. mosques jobs and how shops a scene straight from the bizarre the orient but this is luton north of london home to some twenty five thousand muslims of british and other origins one of them was time or abdel wahab al abdel better known now as the stockholm bomber abdul qade

coming in and forcing a change of regime in libya russia has also criticized the military action that these allies this coalition is perpetrating for mr lavrov says that the action definitely goes beyond the scope of the u.n. resolution saying that the allies are interfering in what is essentially a civil war which is not sanctioned by the u.n. resolution it actually is not very pleased about it he has sent these countries that are participating in a letter calling on the meeting to end what he's adopting a barbaric offensive against his country and he also likens the air strikes by the coalition to hitler's military campaigns during world war two so it's very unequivocal that he's not going to be pleased he's unlikely to take any notice of what comes out of this meeting and we won't know what's coming out until much later this afternoon so i'll be following it with a. reporting now one of the u.n. security council resolution states that the foreign forces actions should focus on protecting civilians but russians are u.n. envoy says this message doesn't seem to match the reality on th

the locals in libya fear their country's on the brink of civil war by the hope other nations will follow russia's lead with an arms band to help stabilize the situation. discussions on dealing with libya are hard to avoid as the u.s. vice president meets russian leaders in moscow boosting trade ties is also in joe biden's agenda as he sits down with. a business. to be i'm in moscow i'm not trying for having good to have you with us here on r t our top story france says it's recognizing libya's rebels as the quote legitimate representatives of the people is comes as head of nato defense officials and e.u. foreign ministers meeting in brussels to discuss what moves they think they should make for more on this we go live to our he's getting old political joining us from brussels hello daniel so what can you tell us about these developments. well there was a meeting between president sarkozy's office of france and the libyan rebel national council after wish it was decided to announce as you say that france rick ignores is the rebels as the legitimate power in that country they will exchange ambassad

course by the united states and afghanistan the two men of course could not avoid the subject of libya russia once again reiterating its position that the u.n. resolution one thousand nine hundred eighty three was basically enforced in order to ensure a no fly zone that would in fact it in turn to guarantee civilians on the ground in libya some sort of security and safety that has not been the case so far according to russian politicians and russian officials and u.s. secretary of defense robert gates seemed to agree with that statement saying that the military. incursion into libya and the military presence in libya will have to be significantly decreased and that libyans and only libyans have the power and the right to decide the fate of their own country version of president that he didn't actually took the problem even further the conflict in libya according to him has not only affected that country but also the north african region and also could in fact in danger in the peace process negotiations that concern in the middle east that of course was said during a meeting between the russia

said his people would die in their pounds and if the united states rather foreign powers and to libya russia together.

is now considering imposing a no fly zone over libya russia strongly opposes that moscow says once again stone's international intervention in what he believes is levy on domestic affairs and the u.s. is now see russia's support for action in levy as russia has a veto on the year's unity council that means that without russia saying yes to the no fly zone plan this plan could not be enforced. democratic strategist chris told me earlier that joe biden's visit highlights the toys which continue to link russia and the u.s. . i think that the existing relations are on a track moving forward no matter what the little disruptions are and i think that's very important and i think that's part of what biden strip is all about and then the obama's trip will be all about which is that even if we have set backs along the way the message has to be very clear to the russian people and to the american people that russia and united states now have more in common than we do we do that separates us we need that russia to be part of it we need a free trade with russia i think that that message is being a c

now russia has been opposed to military intervention in libya from the very outset besides i destabilizing the region how is it justified that position. about by russia has suffered with your course released its new trends about the us and show intervention what it was still a possibility now that it has become a reality russia's once again come down the violence that is ongoing in libya i am going moment to be basically saying that the u.n. resolution one thousand seven hundred more was not said and signed by the united nations security council was to prevent civilian casualties to guarantee those on the ground in libya itself sort of a security and stability and even a swift a resolution to the ongoing marmalade and i was at that moment busy building national teams that are rising and you know that you know it's still expected to rise so the russians basically saying that in the united nations security council resolution is i'm not being interpreted or correctly and is basically giving the coalition forces no reason to introduce a strong military presence in that area itself in many of t

it's feared violence could escalate further in libya russia imposing sanctions against gadhafi regime banning the export of weapons and military hardware. and libya inevitably on the agenda as the u.s. vice president meets russian leadership on opposition in moscow boosting trade ties also want joe biden's list as he joins us live here putin on day two of his trip. skies are in stacy herbert look at how the rising price of silver could spell disaster for one of wall street's biggest banks stay with us. for the full story we've got. the biggest issues get the human voice face to face with the news makers. imax ties are and this is the kaiser report once again coming to you from cairo egypt the global insurrection against banker occupation continues multifaceted conflict between oligarchs and bankers versus the people in cities from cairo to ohio and of course over a skyrocketing because that's the currency of the revolution as prices go higher j.p. morgan stock goes lower and then fire franchise is threatened with extinction as the price of silver crushes the silver shorts because of y

ok is russia capable of proposing some initiatives i mean in the case of libya could russia act as a mediator for example well yes we are we already offered. our war efforts. as a one mediator we said that we want to be part of the solution we said that we are ready to work as a kind of docking mechanism between the two camps. and then we also think that. in tripoli there should be people who think the strategic political think about the future of libya and it's quite obvious that the future of libya will not be connected with a mystical duffy and his sons the future will be different and the sooner. the real petreus libya in tripoli around gadhafi understand that there will be no any way out from that terrible situation if gadhafi is still in planes of the more successful will be international mediation says to me not to give the president full special got on spotlight will do that shortly right after the break so stay with us don't go. wealthy british scientists. on. the. market try not to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with months cause or for a no holds b

is now considering imposing a no fly zone over libya russia strongly opposes. once again international intervention in what he believes is levy on domestic affairs and the u.s. is now seeking russia's support for action in levy as russia has a veto on the year's curity council that means that without russia saying yes to the no fly zone plan this plan could not be enforced. thousands of muslim refugees escaping violence in north africa found their way to europe but what will they find but what they will find nations already struggling to live with immigrant populations in the british muslim community is now being confronted by strong far right sentiment your parents takes a look. mosques hit jobs and how well meat shops a scene straight from the possessions of the orient but this is luton north of london home to some twenty five thousand muslims of british and other origins one of them was time or abdel wahab. better known now as the stock bomber abdul qadeer pax knew him and described the volatile character rejected by the community at large when he was here he

coming in and while saying a change of regime in libya russia's also criticized the military action that leaves allies paralysed and perpetrates a foreign minister lavrov says that the action definitely goes beyond the un resolution saying that the allies are interfering in essentially a civil war which is not sanctioned by the un resolutions it's not very pleased about that he has sent these countries that are participating and that's after calling on the meeting to end what he's being a barbaric offensive against his country and he believes in life in the abstract by the militia and. military campaign during world war two so it's very unequivocal that. he's unlikely to take any notice of what comes out of this meeting and we won't know what's coming out until much later this afternoon so i'll be following it what i thought is more i'm going to i'll swear russia and nato council has been holding a meeting at the alliance's headquarters in brussels moscow and for dimitri rogosin spoke to us straight after the talks now he says the coalition is going too far in libya. but in cahoots with

are now going to be quite fearful of western powers coming in and forcing a change of regime in libya russia has also criticized the military action that the allies the coalition is perpetrating foreign minister lavrov says that the action definitely goes beyond the scope of the un resolution saying that that the allies are interfering in what is essentially a civil war which is not sanctioned by the u.n. resolution we may see some more to climb down in a hearing particularly in the u.k. and other countries who are willing to talk exactly and his followers to be partially prosecuted when it comes to its international norm for humanitarian reasons for attacking his own people but in private we're hearing there is increasing support for a deal so that if gadhafi steps down he would get immunity from prosecution and he would get the right to live out his natural life essentially in another country so there were we'll wait to see what happens with that. is an interesting issue as you were saying earlier nor about regime change in the ousting of could offer us days ago the. council president home

and european coalition forces in libya and saying once again that russia is justified in building up its defense system as the recent events in libya do seem to show that of course previously we've also had the response from the russian foreign affairs ministry who also voiced grave concerns about the outcomes and the consequences of the intervention by the u.s. and european coalition forces saying that the u.n. resolution one thousand and seventy three which of course sanctioned a no fly zone in libya was basically designed to provide some sort of security for the civilians on the ground in libya and so far the numbers of civilian casualties have only been rising so the u.n. resolution is basically not living up to its purpose and that of course is the concern voiced by the russian foreign ministry many other russian officials and just recently the russian prime minister. now speaking about russia's. russia's foreign minister rather is in north. africa as we speak after where you just said i assume it's likely very likely that he'll be calling for calm. indeed we know that libya is d

russia has expressed regrets over this international intervention into libya and a statement by the foreign ministry they called on all sides to stop violence as soon as possible well russia has been against international intervention in libya pretty much since the start of unrest in the country around a month ago now some circles have started to concern over international intervention led by by britain france and the united states saying that it could be overstepping the the boundaries laid out by the u.n. security council resolution. gallow for the federation council the foreign affairs committee leader has said this in his own opinion he believes that they have they are going too far with this action it's taken resolution a number of nine hundred seventy three its main goal was to defend the civilian population but not to punish the gadhafi regime or withrow it so in that respect with think that one thousand nine hundred seventy three resolution is mostly humanitarian resolution to speak for humanitarian resolution than a full military resolution my personal concern is that any military

basically expressing their concern and disapproval of the current intervention in libya of course many people including russia various other officials countries opposing the intervention are frequently voiced opinions that instead of stab allies in this situation the intervention could in fact worsen it for libya not only for libya but it could in fact bring destabilization and a further conflict to the entire north africa region records news company nazar while following russia's reaction to the u.s. led coalition air strikes on libya thanks for that. now the u.s. is out the forefront of the strikes on libya as i just said to point some of the heaviest firepower against gadhafi his regime and that's despite washington's insisting for days that the u.s. would merely play a supporting role are you going to camp explains. the pentagon says they do not rule out more strikes quote if and when the need arises if you watch american television you get the impression that america's involvement is a really good thing and that there was no other option but intervention but if you look at the polls the majority of ameri

on sunday before heading off to algeria and both of those countries of course libya is there to discuss deals. between russia and egypt and algeria no it's his first visit to egypt since the revolution there in january and he'll be watching what goes on in libya very very closely to see what russia's next move will be deals with this region the suffering the. uprisings and international intervention at the moment coalition forces. from the european strategic intelligence and security believes that's what they should limit the operation to. we have to focus on one thing the operation then didn't. the question of what will happen in libya after all this is clearly the problem of the leader instance of problem of a nation and i consider this a problem of the leadership the leadership of the been because you can see and i tell you we don't know what is diluted political leadership of the because he can see it it's extremely possible asleep it is a trivial country as you know it's extremely possible that they have to reach the whole world and the leader of the ship in the influence of the benghazi consider just a

and russia calls the armed intervention into libya regrettable claiming more blood will be shed in renews calls for a cease fire. russia has called for an end to the bloodshed for gadhafi and the opposition to sit down and host talks all the details on our. progress in live from our studios in central moscow this is r t where it is just after two o'clock in the morning it is one o'clock in the morning in libya let me bring you up to speed with the latest news of from there a multinational force has launched a series of strikes against colonel gadhafi forces in libya the coalition is calling it operation odyssey dawn and a brief statement issued just minutes ago colonel gadhafi said libyans will confront what he called the attacks of the colonial crusader the libyan leader added that the mediterranean has now become a war ground one hundred twelve cruise missiles have been launched from american and british ships and submarines hitting at least twenty two. gets jets from a number of countries have a child colonel gadhafi is ground forces the libyan government reports that there have been c

libya. well he definitely could because washington needs russia's voice and it needs russia's support for a possible military action in libya and joe biden will partly that's what he why he's here in moscow for russia when it was against the plan which the u.s. supports to close the libyan skies to impose a no fly zone over libya and this is what both the president and russia's foreign minister recently to they will not back any international any military intervention in libya's domestic affairs. should in this instance any foreign intervention on the african continent is out of the question these countries must handle everything themselves concerning the proposed no fly zone over libya the whole idea needs a lot more thought and consideration before anyone makes any decision we must be presented with all the details and we must have an objective picture of what's happening on the ground we must be certain that the safety of the civilian population is at the top of the agenda. which is what has to be said that this is a a long planned visit so what else is there joe biden doing what else is

russia u.s. relations when it comes to libya. i believe the. president . is very important for both the russia washington in fact. racial badly needs a good relation with russia because that in fact. much depends on russian position as far as i'll going to start on iran or middle east because. russia of calls is very interested in promoting its w t o membership and establishing good relation with the united states in order to be. in two thousand and eleven after seventeen years of very difficult negotiation. joy hard it is asian what do you think are the ways to reach common ground on this issue of libya. i believe that balls russia and the united states are concerned about. and the fact that russia supported the resolution which imposes sanctions against gadhafi it demonstrates the. seriously it's a down. but i believe that there are some differences still between moscow and washington on. the. specific measures to be taken against the must seem. very eager to use military force against. the government and now addressing i guess more those differences bide

libya tell us more. now that there's been speculation of course the internet has been rife with sources claiming that joe biden has indeed tried to guarantee russia's support should the u.s. decide to go ahead with its military intervention in libya of course they have been saying that they do consider a military intervention a possibility in order to resolve the ongoing libyan crisis russia of course has so far maintained the position that the current conflict out ongoing in libya is first and foremost a domestic situation and therefore foreign powers should stand back and let libyans settle the matter by themselves and that of course as having been said russia has to date back to the one citations during batting whole reckless trade supplies to libya of course of holding at the sanctions proposed by the united nations so we do know that joe biden has attempted to secure russia's support in the possibility of a u.s. military intervention there has so far been no either denial or confirmation of this situation but we do know that several foreign nations of course including the united states have not ruled out the possibility of bringing their troop

president made yet have said that although russia's initial response to the situation in libya had been to call for a peaceful solution there colonel could duffy's actions in persistently attacking his own people had forced the hand of the international community and that this was why russia had supported an arms in bargo and asset freeze and why russia hadn't used its veto on the un security council to block the no fly zone saying that russia supported some of the elements contained within that resolution. everything that's happening in libya is a result of the shameful behavior of its government on the crimes against their own people we shouldn't forget everything else is just a consequence of the recent ported one of the un security council resolutions and allow the other resolution to go through this was done consciously to prevent the escalation of violence but still the events that followed showed any decisions of this crime should be accompanied by thorough consultation as well as remembering that the use of force should be proportionate to what is happening the fact that as a re

and russia's top military general believes the coalition's aerial operation in libya has brought no results meaning it might not be long before ground troops are sent in meanwhile russia's envoy to nato says the alliance can't count on moscow support for a possible operation with land forces which could be classed as an occupation of libya artie's if you think of course. the head of russia is the chief of staff general in the climate of did say that in his opinion the operation conducted by the coalition forces in libya is failing and that most most likely they will have to resort to use of ground troops and libya and if that happens that will be a direct violation of the u.n. security council resolution which does not permit that sort of involvement in libya general makarios sentiments were echoed by the opinion of russia's envoy to nato meter goes and who did say that by what he's hearing and observing in brussels it does look like nato officials are also thinking in terms of the ground a variation as the most likely result of the ongoing situation in libya there also there's also informa