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lieberman: mr. president, i suggest the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: quorum call: the presiding officer: the senator from connecticut. mr. lieberman: i thank the chair. mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that further proceedings under the quorum call be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. lieberman: thank you, mr. president. i rise to continue the discussion of cybersecurity legislation and particularly s. 3414, which is the pending business before the senate, which is the cybersecurity act of 2012, a bipartisan piece of legislation to deal with an urgent national crisis. mr. president, i wanted first again to speak to our colleagues about the seriousness of the threat. i think sometimes that because most people haven't experienced the consequences of a cyber attack and most are not aware of the constant cyber threat going on, moving money from bank accounts, stealing industrial secrets, because frankly a lot of

joe lieberman will be among those voting. senator, on this measure, more to the point about everyone seeing the bush rate extended but the very rich. how do you feel about that? how will you vote? >>guest: i will vote against both of the proposals because, to me, they are exactly what you said at going, symbolic votes that are a waste of time. they are either partial political nit-picking or posturing or kicking the can down the road. what the economy needs from congress is a long-term, bipartisan debt reduction plan that will give the business community the confidence to invest the trillions of dollars we need invested to create jobs. i am voting "no" on both. >>neil: i want to get into details but first the big picture. do you feel now is the time to raise taxes on anyone? >>guest: no. and that's one reason why i'm voting against the democratic proposal which would effectively raise taxes on people making over $250,000. that includes a lot of small businesses. it's also a very partial answer to a much bigger problem. frankl

>>neil: senator lieberman said this not the time to raise a tax on anyone.uest: the obama should put the republicans against the wall. that means you keep the taxes if you don't change the law and put them back on the rip. >>neil: interesting. always a pleasure, sir. more ahead. ♪ why not make lunch more than just lunch? with two times the points on dining in restaurants, you may find yourself asking why not, a lot. chase sapphire preferred. there's more to enjoy. according to ford, the works fuel saver package could literally pay for itself. jim twitchel is this true? yes it's true. how is this possible? proper tire inflation, by using proper grades of oil, your car runs more efficiently, saves gas. you could be doing this right now? yes i could, mike. i'm slowing you down? yes you are. my bad. the works fuel saver package. just $29.95 or less after rebate. only at your ford dealer. so, to sum up, you take care of that, you take care of these, you save a bunch of this. that works. with the fidelity stock screener, you can try strategies from independent exp

tonight we're giving it to one of the most shameless war hawks on the hill right now that's joe lieberman he's one of the most well known faces on capitol hill and he's very much not like the other lawmakers that we praised for just a few moments earlier on the show when he isn't advocating for the u.s. to get involved more wars and invade more countries was all about expanding the surveillance state so we can say they were actually all that surprised that he's back in front of the cameras this time pushing for the cyber security act of two thousand and twelve to get passed now all internet kill switch joe he's pushed for some draconian tech policies in the past but his previous up words have thankfully been shot down he even presented a previous form of the cyber security act that would require homeland security to create mandatory security standards for cyber infrastructure but there are some republicans out there the argue that mandates would her private companies who actually cooperate with the government on cybersecurity so the connecticut senator he went back to the drawing board no

lieberman: i thank the chair. mr. president, i rise to support that motion to proceed to s. 3414, which is the cybersecurity act of 2012, and i do so with the hope and the request that all of our colleagues will vote "yes" on this motion to proceed, so we can begin what i think is a crucial debate about how best to protect our national and economic security in this wired world where threats increasingly -- and thefts -- come not from land, sea, or sky but in invisible strings of 1's and 0's traveling through cyberspace. this bill has been a long time in coming to the floor, and a lot of work has been done on it. but i must say, i have a sense of confidence certainly about the inclination of -- of the overwhelming majority of members of the senate to vote to proceed to this matter because i think everyone in the chamber understands that what we're dealing with here is not a problem that's speculative or theoretical. anybody who's spent any time not even studying the classified materials on this but just republican coll

lieberman: i thank the chair. was the president about to -- you were about to -- okay. let me, if i may, have a few moments. i thank the chair. the senate has not gone into a quorum call, has it? i don't believe so. the presiding officer: there is no quorum call. mr. lieberman: i thank the chair. madam president, very briefly, i have just received a copy of a letter that has been sent this morning to the majority leader, senator reid, and the republican minority leader, senator mcconnell, from keith alexander, general of the united states army, director of the national security agency and chief of cyber command at the department of defense. a distinguished and honored leader of our military, one of the people who has the greatest single responsibility for protecting our security, both in tems of the extraordinary capabilities that the national security agency has but now increasingly for the defense of our cyber systems. i think this is a very important -- this is a career military officer. this is not a politicia

route for his due date scare tactics if cybersecurity legislation needs to be pushed again would lieberman dare suggest a cure noble hiroshima disaster now i'm not trying to make light of these events become on guys this fear mongering is completely out of hand this is how bad legislation gets passed and this is how rights get trampled on when you put fear and panic into the mix you think you would have learned that by now after the last ten years believe it sees that clock ticking so he decides to give his efforts a little nudge even if it means painting a really scary hyperbolic picture in your mind so maybe maybe just maybe he's ready to join a cybersecurity lobbying group out there i don't know but we're taking it to the extremes just to make sure that he could live up to his legacy we're going to give senator joe lieberman tonight's tool time award. our guys it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening lauren lyster host of the capital account here on r t and jim hansen retired special operations master sergeant and military blogger of black live dot net thanks for joining. yo

>> joe lieberman, i guess so. he's sort of hard to read. was joe lieberman ever really a democrat? i don't know. but so going around and actually doing these endorsements in 1936, in 1940 and i think in this way that is incredibly outspoken. i mean, he makes this speech in 1936 where he's accusing the new deal and fdr themselves as i mentioned earlier of being communists, socialists. he picks up really the most vitriolic langlanguage. he calls roosevelt a tyrant and he's abusing the constitution and becomes one of the standard bearers of the liberty league which is basically a business-funded -- it's really funded by the dupont family, but a group that begins in the 1930s to attempt to push back the new deal. and it really is a puzzling, puzzling moment in his career. and i think people who have tried to sit there and trace, well, he always had these platforms. he always believed in state-level power and not federal-level power. or he always had a more technocratic view and didn't believe in the more pop list lid legislation. i just don't think those are answers. i think he went th

lieberman: i thank the chair. mr. president, i have eight unanimous consent requests for committees to meet during today's session of the senate. they have the approval of the majority and minority leaders. i, therefore, ask unanimous consent that these requests be agreed to and that they be printed in the record. the presiding officer: no objection, so ordered. mr. lieberman: i thank the chair. mr. president, may i ask what the pending business is now. the presiding officer: the motion to proceed on s. 3414. mr. lieberman: i thank the chair and i rise to speak on that motion to proceed to s. 3414, which is the cyber security act of 2012. mr. president, this -- a cloture petition has been filed. it will ripen sometime tomorrow but i think it's the hope of members on both sides of the aisle that we can proceed to vote on the motion to proceed today. and i'm hopeful that colleagues on both sides of the aisle will -- will vote to proceed because though there continue to be some disagreements about the content of this bil

lieberman: i thank my friend. i feel disappointed that we continue to have to return to the floor to make these pleas. i hope that we come to a day soon when we can come to the floor to celebrate the victory of freedom and the defeat of assad, the dictator. may it happen soon. mr. mccain: i note the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: mr. whitehouse: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from rhode island. mr. whitehouse: madam president, are we presently in a quorum call? the presiding officer: we are. mr. whitehouse: may i ask unanimous consent that the quorum call be lifted? the presiding officer: without objection. mr. whitehouse: may i further ask unanimous consent that for the next half-hour, myself, senator mikulski, senator blumenthal, senator coons and senator blunt and also should they come senator graham and senator kyl be allowed to engage in a colloquy. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. whitehouse: our topic, madam president,

lieberman: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from connecticut. mr. lieberman: mr. president, for the information of my colleagues, i know that the senate leader is in discussions with the republican leader, and i know the hope is that we can soon have the vote on the motion to proceed to s. 3414, but as yet i not have been informed that there has been the necessary meeting of minds. so i hope it will be soon, and i hope everyone will support it. with that, i would yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: quorum call: a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from north dakota. mr. hoeven: i ask that the quorum call be suspended. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. hoeven: i have a comprehensive plan for energy security for our nation. when i say energy security, i mean producing more energy than we consume. and i believe with this approach, within five to seven years we truly can be a nation that is energy secure. again, meaning we produce more ene

sen under lieberman has talked about taking away the mandatory aspect of this bill -- senator lieberman. guest: if it doesn't comply, there isn't protection for punitive damages if somebody gets hurt downstream by cyber attack that could have been prevented had they complied. they are not first in line with the sharing of information or for assistance from the government if something goes wrong from their information systems. we should think twice about those incentives. it is like the police saying, we will protect your neighborhood better if you would use these certified deadbolts on your doors. if you do not use them, we will not patrol your neighborhood as much as other neighborhoods. that does not seem a good approach to cyber security. they should be getting the threat information first and everybody should be getting it first instead of there being some discrimination about whether a company that complied with the mandate would be a standard mandate. host: senator lieberman spoke about the bill. [video clip] >> it is no longer mandatory but there are enough incentives in here and

. >> senator joe lieberman and collins are ranking committees of governmental affairs.n february 2011 the committee issued this report a ticking time bomb on the fort hood attack. >> could the massacre at fort hood be prevented? >> my conclusion after our investigation was that the massacre the fort hood could have been prevented. >> this is not a case where dots had to be connected in order to figure out that we had a serious threat. the dots were already connected. there was just a failure to ask. >> neither the dod nor the fbi had specific information about the attacks they had sufficient information about hasan's radical islamist extremism. they failed to act on it. prorps say as early as 2003 his radical ideology was no secret to his students in the army. >> it was so alarming and radicalized two of the fellow officers described him as a ticking time bomb. >> he did things like repeatedly told classmates and superiors his devotion to shirea law was over the united states constitution. >> there was answer sewed maybe the slide presentation he had that fellow student

lieberman: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from connecticut. mr. lieberman: good morning, mr. president. i thank the chair. mr. president, as the senate now turns its attention to the pending legislation whose aim is to enhance our nation's cyber defenses, i'd like to take a few moments to review where we are, because the bill we now have on the floor i think brings us closer than ever to an agreement on a way to better defend our country, our prosperity, our security against what is emerging as the most significant threat we face today. bigger than conventional attack by a foreign enemy, bigger even than islamist terrorism; a threat that is very different than anything we faced before and so probably hard for most americans to conceptualize, but trust me, it's here. that's why it's so important that i think we've come closer than ever to an agreement, but we're not there yet. and i've come to the floor to say to my colleagues that those of us who sponsor the pending legislation --

. >> senator joe lieberman and collins are ranking committees of governmental affairs.bruary 2011 the committee issued this report a ticking time bomb on the fort hood attack. >> could the massacre at fort hood be prevented? >> my conclusion after our investigation was that the massacre the fort hood could have been prevented. >> this is not a case where dots had to be connected in order to figure out that we had a serious threat. the dots were already connected. there was just a failure to ask. >> neither the dod nor the fbi had specific information about the attacks they had sufficient information about hasan's radical islamist extremism. they failed to act on it. prorps say as early as 2003 his radical ideology was no secret to his students in the army. >> it was so alarming and radicalized two of the fellow officers described him as a ticking time bomb. >> he did things like repeatedly told classmates and superiors his devotion to shirea law was over the united states constitution. >> there was answer sewed maybe the slide presentation he had that fellow students we

you have two people who caucus with the democrats, joe lieberman and jim webb who said they will opposeplan, the democratic proposal, if it goes up on the hill. nothing is going to happen. it's getting kicked into after election day. again, everybody's panicked over this. if romney wins, it won't matter. he'll be the one who controls the agenda. if nothing happens before january 1st when he becomes president, everything will be done retroactively. if obama wins he has to make a compromise as he did in 2010 and that will happen at the 11th hour. >> i want to go over the vote. a series of votes are to. harry reid wants a simple majority because it's a budget issue, 50 plus 1 and they could pass there. usually in the senate it takes 60. take one more listen to the senate majority and minority leader today. >> they want to vote on theirs, vote on ours, we'll do it with a simple majority. so i hope republicans don't insist on doing this the hard way. and why are republicans delaying votes they asked for in the first place? >> my guess is democratic leaders won't allow a vote on the president

. >> one independent senator identified as an independent, joe lieberman said this afternoon some commentssaying, nobody wants to take this on because, quote, the gun lobby is that strong. >> the problem for lieberman is the gun lobby is the majority of the american people. the reason it's strong is because it represents overwhelming opinion in the united states. how do we know that? the president of the united states, who had a tremendous opening if he wanted to push the use of guns after a tragedy of this magnitude could have done it and he stayed away because it's a losing proposition. liberals want gun control, democrats don't. they normally overlap but not on this. democrats won't go near it because of the experience as we heard earlier, 1994, and they don't want to repeat that again. we're at the height of an election and they won't go near it. you're going to have discussion on talk shows and none in congress and nothing will happen in election. >> something else he mentioned was buying ammunition over the internet. he says it worries him because if that amount of ammunition is bein

let's bring in donna lieberman, the executive director of innew york civil liberties union. new jersey gop assembly leader john bramnick, and attorney and author catherine crier. great to have all of you with us tonight. this is a big and developing story in america. donna, let me ask you, the american civil liberties union and the naacp are challenging the law. what are you expectations? what's going to happen here? >> it's really hard to imagine that this kind of law would survive judicial scrutiny because the law is not about voter impersonation. it's really about imp personating democracy, and there's no evidence of voter fraud, but there's lots and lots of evidence that what this is designed to do is steal the election for governor romney. and the way it's designed to do that is by disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of vulnerable pennsylvanian citizens who are entitled as a matter of constitutional right to participate in the electoral process. >> the republicans say it's about voter fraud. ufo sightings are more common than cases of voter fraud. why risk disenfranc

alicia lieberman, and the trauma center. i would like to bring them to the discussion, in terms of police commission efforts to mitigate the adversity of impact. i would also like to commend commissioners marshall -- commissioner marshall for the ambassadors program, which is another set of responses to the burgeoning violence. they have recently joined the visitation valley community. i would ask that they make a presentation before the commission in terms of the efficacy of those efforts in working with our police. third, i support the police commission working with the housing authority around cameras. i understand that is on the way. but we have to make sure the collective resources for the city are there. we need to not expose residents to be part of any excessive exposure to a round incidents. i am trying to talk really quickly. but i also would like this commission to aggressively take on initiatives that allow our first respondents, our officers, to live in the city, and particularly neighborhoods which they serve. c

didn't ultimately do it because lieberman was pro-choice.re than he's picking chris christie. this is a smoke screen and as you know, the bain attacks have hit and hurt him badly. how about we throw out some talk about a vice president. distract attention. >> if that was the intended effect to some extent it has been successful. you're right in looking at the sourcing of this. the drudge report. the romney campaign does have kind of a pathway, direct pathway to the drudge report through matt rowe the top official in the campaign who had a relationship with drudge back when he was the research director to theroom national committee and went down to miami and introduced himself and established this relationship and the drudge report, which is very influential in driving the media cycle, not just the conservative media, has taken a rather favorable approach towards mitt romney from through the republican primary until today. so in this case, the drudge report floating ms. condi, vp rumor did a great service to the romney campaign. >> steve, you

lieberman got close. >> lieberman got close?ld be very hard to get a -- >> go ahead, professor. >> i was just going to say i think to me human beings are tribal. we like people who are like us, and as long as the there's a christian majority in the united states, they're going to voteç for people who are like them. it's going to be tough for atheists, muslims, jews. maybe it won't take decades, but i think it will be a long time before people can break out of their desire to have people in office who are like them. >> i think we're a lot more open minded and tolerant than that. thank you, professor clanch i appreciate you being here. i really do. up next, president obama is about to speak at an a ice cream parlor in ohio. we're checking in on the "betting on america" bus tour here on "the cycle." and this is what inspires us to create new technology. ♪ technology that connects us to everything the world has to offer and vice versa. ♪ technology that makes lightweight stronger, safer, and faster than ever before. ♪ technology th

joining me now is connecticut independent senator, joe lieberman. senator, you have seen a lot of things. there haven't been too many public bill signings in this administration and it was passed earlier in the week, five days later a public signing in the oval office. coincidence? >> purely coincidental, i'm sure. >> right. >> no, there have been public signings pretty regularly, but this is a coincidence of timing but i'm sure it's one that doesn't displease the white house because it does allow the president to say what he did, which i think is true, which is that there has been in the last few years, notwithstanding the political or diplomatic disagreements between israel and the u.s., very strong military and intelligence cooperation and this legislation i think is part of that. >> i want to ask you about your cybersecurity bill which passed a very important procedural hurdle yesterday but first, with mitt romney going to israel and sheldon adelson suggesting he's going to be there and he's going to raise a lot of money to try to drum up suppor

the lieberman collins, feinstein bill also would only affect a small percentage of the people who ownthe most crucial of all of these networks. the business groups, however, some of them are quite worried that it will be a long period. there's nothing in the bill saying this business, this business. they are worried about what that will mean for them. most business groups do not like it, although there's some businesses that do like it. the ones that don't like you say they are worried this will become a sort of de facto regulatory scheme, even though the bill is extensively voluntary. the ones that do like it, say it is too important and we need to have some defense in place because some businesses attacked the way the internet and world wide web are all put together. it would affect a lot of other people as well >> lastly, the august recess around the corner, what is the timetable for getting it done in the senate click >> they look at this week ahead. you know, the next seven days or so. we will see how far they get. at this point there's no final agreement on a version of the bill

: lieberman an independent who votes with the democrats. >> you're right. he's a democrat, he votes with them. but interestingly not for political considerations because they're both leaving. neither of these gentlemen has to worry about reelection. >> ifill: but jim webb still represents a state that is in a very tight race where the democrat he hopes will succeed him probably wouldn't want that hanging around. >> jim webb volted no on both proposals, the republicans and democrat, because of the earned income tax credit which is not extended in the republican provision. he really cares about that. it hits a lot of middle-income people. this isn't just about marginal rates, your income taxes. there are others mixed in, earned income tax credit, tax deductions for college tuition, estate tax if you're wealthy-- all of those things are sort of in the mix now. >> ifill: the congressional budget office, julie, to bring you into this, they said because of the affordable care act, because of the supreme court's action, may not be as expensive as originally though

lieberman: i thank the chair. mr.e senator mcconnell, the leader, has given a preference for what i want to say. i think the american people should know where we stand on these important questions. that's why i come to the floor, to indicate that i will vote in favor of proceeding to debate on s. 3412, senator reid's proposal to amend the internal revenue code of 1986; but if the matter does come to full discussion and debate on the floor, as i hope it will, i will not vote for it in its current form. and i want to explain why. mr. president, i feel strongly that the first thing the american people want us to do is get the economy going again so that the economy is creating jobs. and i'm convinced that the best thing congress can do to restore economic growth and job creation is to enact a comprehensive bipartisan plan to balance our budget along the lines of the simpson-bowles commission recommendations. unfortunately, s. 3412, which is the so-called middle-class tax cut, which would extend the existing reduced tax r

-- >> joe lieberman. >> i guess so he is sort of hard -- was he ever really a democrat? i don't know. but, so going around and actually doing these endorsements in 1936, in 1940, and i think in this way that is incredibly out spoken, is vicious, he makes a speech in 1936, where he is accusing the new deal and fdr themselves of being socialists, and communists, he picks up the worst language, calls roosevelt a tyrant and says he is abusing the constitution and becomes a standard bearer of the liberty league, which is a business funded -- it's funded by the dupont family, but a group that begins in the 1930s to attempt to push back the new deal and it really is a puzzling, puzzling moment in his career. and there are people that tried to sit and trace, he always believed in these platforms and believed in state level power or he had a technicratic view or he had a more limited view of government, i do not think they are answers. i think he went through something specially at that point and that his circle in new york, as he is beginning to be the head of the new york state

now that said, what would happen under the lieberman-collins bill is that information would be shared with the department of homeland security, it would come from the private sector and then d.h.s. would decide whether that information has a national security link and must be shared with the n.s.a. the alternative to that is having companies that might not know make that decision. i think it makes more sense to have d.h.s. in that position than them. host: and from the independent line this morning. caller: i have two points, maybe a question. i think history has shown that the goth doesn't have any ability to keep sensitive information and not use it for its own purposes. and you can see that right now with the current administration and with others that, you know they leak certain information if they feel it's in their benefit. so i think that those less -- the less information the government has about people, the better off we're all going to be. and the second thing that -- the thing i'm really concerned about is what identifies a threat. for example, right now, there's an issue g

there was an assumption that joe lieberman, lindsey graham and i want american boots on the ground.ishment of a a safe zone, providing arms and equipment to the rebels. and the longer it goes on, the more likely islamists do intervene in it. i heard the same argument about libya, about bosnia. we don't know who they are. we can't intervene. we can't change it. by the way, when speaking of bosnia, bob dole and i and a few other republicans stood up supporting president clinton. so the fact, as chuck todd said, maybe republicans aren't supporting us. we are going to do what we think is right. by the way, the republican house, i respect, admire and love them. they passed a resolution saying we shouldn't intervene in libya. look uh how that turned out. >> let's talk about syria's opposition. you are right. you never know exactly who the opposition is. but in this case isn't it even murkier than usual because assad has been a tyrant and his father was a tyrant that you haven't had opposition groups. >> you don't have benghazi, a safe area where we can train and equip. >> where would that

. >> lieberman of socked that primary after a democratic friend spoke at the democratic convention. >> i stand here tonight. >> with a marriage breakup and the earth is still getting warmer. and of course there is sarah pailin. while her nomination went to fame it also subjected her to galactic ridicule. >> i can see russia! [laughter] well receiving this nomination. as a different subject. it is at best a complicated deal. when the next candidate enters these words. >> yes, yes i except your nomination. he/she could be thinking. come and get me. [laughter] >> and 14 of are vice presidents have all tamale going on to become president. all--gone on. but the last was george bush and that was a pretty long time ago. sean perlman, cnn. >> 100,000 americans killed by firearms every year. and guns seem to be virtually untouchable by laws in the u.s.. >> triple digit temperatures. and hot for this saturday. 80s by the bay. cooler for tomorrow. >> the gun control is no up for debate. from the united states has more and more per capita. a one-third of the entire world guns are owned by america