joe lieberman and i agree. we didn't do it. i think there is still room to act. but we have to be quite careful about what we give home. wouldn't it be terrible if it surfaced and were used against israelis by hezbollah or something of that nature, and because, again, of the way that these terror groups morphine and unmorph there's that risk. and the intelligence committee is here on the senate looked at this. and we're pretty cool to giving them military weapons. that said; however, i think the fact that assad has surrendered the chemical weapons should not be a permission slip for him to continue against head of the country. i think we need -- i think we are doing this through john kerry to focus on agree knee have a 2, to getting the opposition there. including some of the more scary elements. and i think the goal has to be to provide humanitarian assistance maybe in some way find a way to build humanitarian corridor so they -- that assistance can get to people who have been without food for or any kind of us is tense for a long time. to shore up the oppositio

our in-house private equity expert will tell you what he thinks of joe lieberman joining a pe firm, whatt says about the industry, and ben bernanke on how the fed is changing. treasury yields trading at their highest level since 2011. we will be taking you there live in about 30 minutes. speaking of that, phil mattingly with me from d.c.. what can bernanke say about the fed as he is on his way out to? >> we are about a half hour away from ben bernanke taking the stage. it is a few weeks after policy makers may then move to trim the bond buying program in less -- and less than one month away from his last months in office. this is being billed as his last major speech, likely a review of the turbulent time he has resided over. the fed's decision to start its taper came amid a series of economic reports. those positive economic reports have continued into the new year. it will be very interesting to see what, if anything, he says about his successor. the senate is to confirm janet yellen as the next federal chair. and bernanke has plenty of wisdom to impart. we will see if he shares any of

joe lieberman and i agree, we didn't do it. i think there is still is room to act but we have to be quite careful about what we give to whom. wouldn't it be terrible if they anpad surfaced and were used against israelis by hezbollah or someone of that nature and because again of the way that these terror groups morph and unmarked and disburse there is that risk. the intelligence committee here and the senate looked at this. we are pretty cool to giving the military weapons. that said however, i think the fact that bashar has surrendered his chemical weapons should not be a permission slip for him to continue as head of the country. and i do think we need, and they think we are doing this big john kerry to focus on geneva ii, to getting the opposition there including some of the more scary elements. al-nusra is part of the opposition that is not isi s. and i think the goal has to be to provide humanitarian assistance may be in some way find a way to build humanitarian corridors so that they -- so that assistance can get to peopl

joe lieberman and i agree, we didn't do it. i think there is still is room to act but we have to be quite careful about what we give to whom. wouldn't it be terrible if they anpad surfaced and were used against israelis by hezbollah or someone of that nature and because again of the way that these terror groups morph and unmarked and disburse there is that risk. the intelligence committee here

first we are delighted to have senator joseph lieberman.ecticut and united states senate from 1989 to 2013 and in the months after september 11 senators lieberman led to the creation of this committee and the senate committee on homeland security. which he chaired until his retirement from congress last year. next we have our dear friend who served on this committee. she actually was sort of my boss if you will. she was the chairwoman of the intelligence subcommittee as i was ranking member. congresswoman jane harman. it's great to see you here today. she represented caliph won his 36th district in the u.s. house of representatives from 1993 to 2011, served on multiple congressional committees boards and commissions including this committee and the house permanent select committee on intelligence and a house committee on armed services. she is currently the president of the woodrow wilson international center for scholars and a member of the defense policy board and the homeland security advisory committee among others. it's great to see yo

joe lieberman and i agree. we didn't do it. i do think there is still room to act but we have to be quite careful about what we give to whom. wouldn't it be terrible if manpads surfaced and were used against israelis by hezbollah or something of that nature. d because, again, pay that these terror groups morph and unmorph and disburse, there is that risk. the intelligence committees here and in the senate looked at this and were pretty cool to giving them military weapons. that said, however, i think the fact that bashar has surrendered his chemical weapons should not be a permission slip for him to continue as head of the country. i do think we need and i think we are doing this through john kerry, to focus on geneva 2 to getting the opposition there, including some of the more scary elements. and i think the goal has to be to provide humanitarian assistance, maybe in some way find a way to build humanitarian corridors so that assistance can get to people who have been without food for sustenance for a long time but to shore u

he spoke last week with joe lieberman, tim geithner -- in good company.ason kelly, speaking of good company, is here. "ins the author of cahoots." me. humes also here with -- he is the author of "the tycoons." genet joust her. can get going right out of the achowski can get going route out of the gate. >> yes. that is what we're talking about last week with lieberman joining this company at victory park capital. clearly they will play off his name. achowski is joining the u.s. by a group of carlyle. they began a flagship fund for carlyle. he will be doing media and telecom deals. he will be a partner at carlyle. had to deal have with governments. this is getting a member of the hedge fund community -- it's usually not in the u.s. usually overseas. what you think of this trend of public officials going private? >> i guess my knee-jerk reaction is in six to 12 months we will see headlines of somebody get .nvolved in something but quite honestly we have seen this back-and-forth for years now. back when i started in the markets, you had people going from the

glen lieberman $175,000. also too depressed to go outside. he says after the attacks on 9/11. >> as a new yorker, as a u.s. citizen, i can only express disgust. >> reporter: in all, more than 100 are charged including 72 former members of the nypd. more than half the cases came from those claiming the events of 9/11 left them unfit to work. prosecutors say ringleaders coached them on how to act when examined by doctors and how to apply by benefits. >> the message of this indictment is if you are considering falsifying or bilking any administration service for disability benefits, you shouldn't and if you do, you will get caught. >> reporter: all four of the alleged ringleaders pled not guilty yesterday but prosecutors say the investigation is far from over and they expect many more cases to emerge. jeff glor, cbs news, new york. >> social security workers say they started getting suspicion when the same diagnosis just kept popping up. >>> you have heard of google buses, then the mysterious barge. google is now trying something new on the bay.

say what you will about joe lieberman. one thing i have always appreciated. is his steadfast commitment to understanding the very delicate nature of what is going on in the middle east. he recognizes that what we have done there is sell out our friend and try to make peace with enemies. what we have done, busted trust with our friend. we have done nothing to gain the respect or the fear of our enemies. they dance in the streets in tehran, believing that they have won the philosophical battle with the americans. and in the meantime, the friend that we have had in israel, and in saudi arabia, no longer trust us. and why would they? thank you, keep up the good work. well after countless congressional hearings on the benghazi consulate attack that killed four americans. the senate intelligence committeer e e e committeer -- committeeished to a sobering report. it said the attacks were preventible, reporting on the terrorist activity in libya to include threats and attack against western targets and given the known security short falls at the u.s. mission. for mon

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the prosecution, of course, probably intends to use this photograph of glen lieberman riding a jet skibled by mental illness. but i don't know. his defense lawyer might just use that very same photograph to prove that he really is completely mentally ill. joining me now, the chief investigative reporter for wnbc new york who has been following this story. this is a -- i mean, we've seen small versions of this. this is a gigantic version of this type of fraud. >> this is just the beginning. the 106 people charged in just the last 24 hours. there could be as many as 900 others involved in this alleged scheme. so this is just the beginning. all former police officers, firefighters, you name it. all allegedly went to the same, two lawyers, two former cops, teaching them, showing them how to fill out forms according to prosecutors and claim that they were totally mentally ill, unable to walk around the corner, face crowds, do any sort of job. and yet collect $30,000 to $50,000 a year. and you have some of these former officers collecting as much as $200,000, $300,000 before the scam was all

secretary of state john kerry says his is -- needs with his israeli counterpart outdoor lieberman. secure aing to framework for a palestinian agreement. kerry wants to sign off on a comprehensive treaty by april. let's go to our correspondent in jerusalem. kerry is continuing his shuttle diplomacy today. how are his tactics being received? >> the secretary of state, i think, has people here worry. he is shuttling between jerusalem and ramallah. it is significant that the two leaders, even after four and a half months of negotiations the dream people below them, are not prepared to meet yet. a are not yet ready to meet. john kerry is going between them with a combination of charm and determination, but i think it makes people here nervous. you could see that both sides in advance of this talk were spinning, taking open, and, suggesting that these talks might fail for a variety of reasons. each of them are trying to prepare their defense and saying it is not my fault. it is now put up or shut up time. will they say no to him, our work -- or walk further down the road toward peace? mi

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say what you will about joe lieberman, but what think i always appreciated is his steadfast commitmente of what is going on in the middle east. he realizes what we have done is sell out our friends and tried to make friend with the enemies. we have busted our trust with our friends and done nothing to gain the respect or fear of our enemies. they dance in the streets of tyronn, believing they have won the philosophical battle with the americans. in the meantime, the friends we have had in israel and saudi arabia no longer trust us. and why would they? thank you, jolting joe. keep up the good work. after countless congressional hearings on the benghazi consulate attack that killed four americans, the senate intelligence committee issued a sobering report on its findings. it says the attacks were preventable based on extensive intelligence reporting on the terrorist activity in libya to include prior threats to attacks against western targ lts and given the known security shortfalls at the u.s. mission. for months, we tried to get information, and honest answers about what happened in be

. >> joining us now with a preview, johnny lieberman, senior features editor at ""motor trend.""ave you. what's making headlines this year? what's the hot, new "it" car? >> for this show, it is going to be the mustang, the new ford mustang. this is the 50th anniversary of the mustang. first came out in 1964. this is 2014. so this is going to be the car that is probably going to be the hottest thing. however, there's a rumor going around that ford is also going to show off the new f-150. that's been the best selling vehicle in the u.s. for over i think 34 years. they sell over 700,000 just last year alone. so it's a huge deal, if it's true. >> good heavens. what are some of the top trends you think we'll see in vehicles? top trends. >> besides pick-up trucks, i think what's called small premium. so this is a segment kind developed by me but mercedes came out with the cla 45. bmw has the new 2-series, eventually the 1-series. audi has the a3. lincoln started to make some small cars, cadillac starting to sell a lot of small cars. luxury brands but smaller vehicles from these establi

democrats in connecticut dumped joe lieberman because he hugged george w. bush. i've seen this movie. he's never going to be the republican nominee. >> let me ask you a more immediate question. >> yes, sir. >> you just raised his polling. >> you've been a great consultant. you understand this business as well as anybody in the country. kay hagan decided that she wouldn't go to north carolina. mary landrieu flew air force one down there and hid. >> it's a cool plane. >> it's a very cool plane. but kay hagan decided not to take the plane trip. candidate after candidate in tough races have to decide am i next to obama or do i not remember who he is. and they're all going to have to make these kind of decisions. how would you advise red state democrats in those kind of settings? did she make a mistake not going down to north carolina with the president? >> you have to be your own person. at the same time, you can run but you can't hide. you watch the state of the union. it is going to be an agenda that democrats can stand on. it's going to be the things stephanie was

he wants at the lieberman your trouble with you is your state is too small and you can't hide in it. [laughter] moynihan would say oh he's upstate somewhere or he's down in new york this weekend. it's carlisle, having a great time. i don't think i can get away with that in pennsylvania. we don't have cosmopolitan senators in pennsylvania. that's my answer. if i could be a cosmopolitan senator and right for the digest once in a while, some important monograph once and while that would be great like moynihan was >> the question is how can we get equal time on your show and others instead of the presidential election of 2016 which is so much the focus now? how can we get equal time or more to the major issues such as the increasing inequality in our country? >> republicans are trying to reduce the number of debates because they think it's too much of a clown card. i'm just telling you. what do you want me to debate? >> sorry? >> what do you want me to debate that i'm not debating? >> economic inequality. >> that's what we talk about. that's what i talk about. >> i watch it every night.

assault, the elections were held and the party that won by an overwhelming majority was the party of lieberman who wound up gaining the third largest amount of votes and becoming the foreign minister, israel's top diplomat, he was just cleared of the ties and serious charges relating to his mafia ties by the way and some people were not able to testify against him because they mysteriously disappeared and now she has re-emerged as one of the most popular politicians in israel but we are in 2009 and he campaigned on a very simple platform. he ran ads over and over declaring that no loyalty, no citizenship triet in other words, if you fail to declare loyalty to the jewish state you would be stripped of your citizenship rights and this applied to the 20% of the public who are palestinian citizens of israel to begin and he moved to fulfill his promise as he entered as the third largest party in coalition with younger members that would support from benjamin netanyahu and what support even from eduk barak who supported an initiative that passed to require all new citizens of israel to swear loyalty

glen lieberman, $175,000, also too depressed to go outside. he said after the attacks on 9/11.lice commissioner bill bratton. >> as a new yorker, as a u.s. citizen, i can only express disgust at the actions of the individuals involved. >> reporter: in all, more than 100 are charged, including 72 former members of the nypd. more than half the cases came from those claiming the events of 9/11 left them unfit to work. prosecutors say that ring leaders coached the men on how to act when examined by doctors and how to apply for benefits. the operation funneled by ex-cops joseph esposito and john minerva as well as raymond lavallee, a former fbi agent, and thomas hale, a pension consultant. the attorney. >> the mention of this indictment is that if you're considering falsifying or bilking any administration service for disability benefits, you shouldn't and if you do, you're going get caught. >> reporter: joseph esposito's attorney is brian griffin. >> mr. esposito proudly served this city as a new york city plifb and he came to court today and said two very important words. he said

former police officer glenn lieberman, shown here on a jetski, received $175,000 over four years after reportedly saying he couldn't go outside. >> i can only express disgust at the actions of the individuals involved in this scheme. >> reporter: there is anger, tonight, among the families of the heroes who died on 9/11. george siller lost his brother, stephen, a firefighter. >> the firefighters and police i know were digging on the pile right after 9/11 to rescue and then to recover. and many are dying today from the cancer. so, it puts a mark against people like that who are so dedicated. and truly represent what the fire and police are. >> reporter: now, george siller also told me that he is sickened. he's appalled by this alleged fraud. and we really need to remember what his brother stood for, what these heroes devery, single day. and that we shouldn't really focus on these few bad apples, diane. >> so great to have you on this story, bob. good to have you here. >>> and moving on, tonight. other stories in the news. the results are in this new year. we'll tell you which diet was c

it would be little disingenuous to claim that time has no impact on us whatsoever in fact, joseph lieberman who was a conservative a democrat then later independent said more than three decades of research has firmly established electronic media has a powerful impulse to ince on the attitudes and behavior of america's children. is escrow paul the larger as they spent consuming media has grown greater. i don't think we would argue with that. that is one of the hideous we begin to explore in "prodigal press" how the content of the media shape the way rethink. also how the media themselves shape the way rethink. look at content first i'd like to begin my presentation with content did how much it has changed by saying a way to share the story of a great christian newspaper called "the new york times." if you read it today you'll be given as christian but it was founded by henry worry mandate presbyterian christians in the 1850's. in the 1870's his star investigative reporter and augustus st. clair went undercover in the abortion facilities. today you may have heard of froze or o'keeffe who have

and take a look at glen lieberman grinning as he gives two middle fingers in the water. well, the former cop, how much did he get? $175,000 in disability payments. officials say the scheme was worth up to $400 million. >>> president obama scored a minor victory yesterday as the senate advances a bill to restore unemployment benefits for 1.3 million americans. six republicans joined the democratic caucus to vote to officially begin debate on this bill. it was just a procedural vote. despite the white house saying they want benefits extended with no strings attached, majority leader harry reid says he is open to finding a way to offset the $6.5 billion jobless aid for the three-month extension of these benefits. yesterday the president spoke about the vote and what's next for the bill. >> i've heard the argument that says extending unemployment insurance will somehow hurt the unemployed because it saps their motivation to get a new job. i meet a lot of people. and i can't name a time where i met an american who would rather have an unemployment check than the pride of havi

council on foreign relations the establishment magazine in march of two thousand and six by the lieberman press said the united states now has a first strike capability against russia that if we attack them with nuclear weapons they would have no bill that it to retaliate if they had a few planes a few bombs that they could set off against us the missile defense is there to look at those and i want a map that shows kind of that reversal where we've now surrounded and you know we're only starting out i mean really according to u.s. policymakers has the cold war ever you know never we grabbed everything we could at the end of world war two we held on never turned the back and defense spending skyrocketed again and after two thousand and one japan is i mean japan in the asia was our main bulwark germany in europe was i mean both work we broke off our treaty with the russians and we made in west germany the country which terrified the soviets that's why there was so much tension when kennedy came to office. that's why they put. the u.s. . deployed. thank you. welcome back i'm speaking with aw

and there is lieberman torian britain. britain.and tori in what did it represent and how strong is it? everyone knows that the ultimate power in iran is with the supreme leader. sent thathat he has said, let's see where these negotiations go. go make a deal. help me understand. talk fori have to hours. i think the election in iran that president rouhani was with a good majority that supported them is a clear -- thaton that iranians the iranian system works. we are experiencing a kind of democracy in the region that is unique. it should be appreciated. what happened in iran that should be seen by the international community is first of all, the iranian political system is alive. other countries have democracies, they have opponents, groups, different parties, and so on. people haveani and to support the islamic republic. the result of the election actually empowered irani and and is not -- and the islamic republic to continue with the iranians want and to be seen in the region and internationally as a power that can help th

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. >> i was on the plane with lieberman, so we were for about an hour or an hour and a half i was going to be chief of staff of the transition for the vice president. >> so close, so close. >> that didn't quite make it. >> yeah. >> anyway -- >> i think of the old days in the '70s. >> right. well, you remember guy. how are you? >> you look thinner and younger and the whole thing. you've really been working out. >> working hard. mr. gibbs, how are you? >> pleasure. >> great to see you. >> congratulations. great book. >> thank you. we're on c-span now, but got to talk to lanny about what he and i i talked about yesterday, our new plan. >> i love it. i like it. >> so -- >> it fits really well. i flipped through the week, and i read various -- the book, and i read various -- [inaudible] so interesting, all the personalities. >> right. >> i'm really glad you wrote this book. >> it's a story that had to be told. i mean, you know this because you're living down in north carolina. but the -- >> so easy to forget. it's so easy to forget. >> and, you know, the other thing that drives me crazy in t

in fact, joseph lieberman, a senator who most of you know, he was a democrat and said that more thanthree decades of research is firmly established and has a powerful influence on the attitudes and values and behavior of america's children in this influence has grown only larger as the amount of time that young people spend consuming the media has grown greater. i do not believe that any of us would argue with that. that is one of the ideas that we begin to explore in the press. and that is how the content of the media shapes the way we think. we also look at how the media themselves shape the way we think. taking a look at content first. i would like to begin with the content in the news media and how much of it has changed over the years by saying that i want to share with you the story of the great christian newspaper. that newspaper is "the new york times." if you read "the new york times" today, you do not think of it as a christian newspaper. but it was founded by a bible believing presbyterian christian and 18 1850s and augustine st. clair when undercover in these facilities i

joe lieberman and murkowski don't fit that, because they intended to run as members of their own partieswith one of the fascinating resumes is trying to join the select group of third-party candidates. larry kressler, a rhodes scholar. he returned to harvard and got his law degree in 1971. three years later, he ran for a house seat. 32-year-old pulled an upset in the gop primary and unseated frank denholm in '74. after moving up to the senate, he distinguished himself in the abscam scandal. he sought the republican presidential nomination in 1979. pressler spent 18 years in the senate. since leaving, he's travelled the world as a professor and calls himself a personal friend of president obama, a man he personally has endorsed twice, and now he said he wants his old job back. he announced he would run for a fourth senate term, but as an independent. it's a risk in the red state of south dakota, but pressler may be able to take advantage of a messy gop primary. multiple candidates have taken turns going after the former governor. pressler's candidacy could open the door for the democratic

janice lieberman has answers for us. >> kind of flashy stuff for you. >> they are flashy.shoes, you have to wonder why so much? we went to the source, the makers of brooks running shoes in seattle to find out. this is top secret info. inside this lab is a new generation of shoe. it's brooks' newest creation, the transcend, and it's all pretty high tech. >> what this does, it allows us to cut the shoe open and be able to test the specs inside to make sure it comes out the way we want it to. >> very cool. so, what is this we are seeing? >> this is super dna foam that will give you all the cushioning, and the heel, you can see the guide rails that go around the entire shoe. >> that's dna? >> that's dna. >> reporter: no surprise these shoes cost a pretty penny. $160 for a running shoe. a lot of people will say what am i paying for. is it worth it? >> this is brand-new technology. this shoe is worth every penny when you put it on, you will absolutely love it. >> reporter: brooks isn't the only company touting glitzy colors and impressive mechanics. adidas has the spring blade r

other members of the cabinet, including the foreign minister lieberman and netanyahu, at least quoteday as coming to kerry's defense. what about this? the state department on the record, jen traveling in rome today with secretary kerry has said this is, if correct, is wrong and deeply offensive, especially given everything that the united states is doing to help the security of israel and that this is not the kind of language we expect from a close ally. what's your take? >> well, look, andrea, governments are made up of people and diverse people. and we see that here and see that in a lot of places around the world. it's a natural thing. so sometimes people say things where they do not speak necessarily for their country or maybe -- >> this is the defense minister, senator. nobody more important in israel than the defense minister other than the prime minister. >> it is a parliamentarian form of government. look, i have to give senator -- secretary -- still call him senator -- kerry, i have to give him applause for working on the tough issues of the day. on other hand, sometimes peop

the bills he has signed on to draft or to co-sponsor is always with democrats, whether it's mccain-lieberman, mccain-feingold, there is a long list. it's always with the other side. we need to go to washington. we don't need somebody to play for the other team. we need somebody to fight for our team. we need to win touchdowns. >> you have are just giving me rhetoric. i've asked you a very simple question. is opposing obamacare not good enough for you? >> okay, everybody is telling me obamacare is the law. let's look at what happened. they fought that. they bought off deals in back rooms to make it law. >> i'm talking about john mccain's vote. >> not support of the american people. they pushed it through. nancy pelosi said i'm going to push this through regardless of what the marine people say. >> stock talk about the american people. you haven't been elected to anything. you can't talk for the american people. the american people wanted gun control bills because -- >> i'm the chairman of legislative district 30 republicans here in arizona. i'm a precinct committeeman, a state committeeman. h

but i have to say, a lot of israeli officials coming to his defense, foreign minister lieberman and alsotice minister, tzipi livni, lead negotiator on the talks, saying, listen, this is not helpful. the u.s. is our best friend and you really can't be making these type of remarks. >> so the remarks are out there. you can't really take them away. maybe they can apologize. but where does it stand in the peace process itself? does it really impact where they go forward in these talks, these negotiations? >> reporter: well, you know, look, prime minister benjamin netanyahu was the one ultimately who was going to be the lead in terms of making a peace deal. and so a lot of times israeli officials or palestinian officials, on the other, will say things that are unhelpful to the process. and the u.s. is going to try to not get bent out of shape. but this is a real critical time right now for the peace process. secretary kerry has given the parties a nine-month deadline to strike a deal. the deadline is coming up in april and now he has put this framework agreement on the table. he's really tryin

in fact, senator joseph lieberman who many of you know was no doctrinaire conservative, he was a democrat and later an independent senator, said this: more than three decades of research has firmly established that electronic media have a powerful influence on the attitudes, values and behavior of america's children. this influence has grown only larger as the amount of time that young people spend consuming media has grown greater. i don't think any of us would argue with that. and that's one of the ideas that we begin to explore in "prodigal press." how the content of the media shape the way we think. we also look at how the media themselves shape the way we think. but let's take a look at content first. i'd like to begin, often, my presentations about the content in the news media and how much it has changed over the years by saying i want to share with you the story of of a great christian newspaper. that newspaper is "the new york times." now, if you read "the new york times" today, you don't think of it as a christian newspaper but, in fact, it was founded by henry raymond, a bible-

i think the healthy debate, i think those two congressional cycles ago or two budgets ago, that lieberman and collins were putting forward the first homeland security discussion of these kinds of things. it didn't go very far but i think we need to continue that. now there's more life and oxygen in that approach. i think that's a very healthy debate for us as a country and i hope we continue to have it. the threat is not going away. the danger is out there. and so how do we balance that? >> afghanistan, you mentioned you were chairman obviously during the surge your paid very close attention to that. that i think accomplished a lot within the limits of what they could do in a year or two. how worried are you about what happens this year? what do you think should happen? should we leave additional force? how stable can the situation be? >> i tried to stay out of the policy world. i mean, i was talking to build earlier today, i have an appreciation for how hard these jobs and issues are. i worry a great deal about the region. i said when i was chairman, and i repeat that, many of us -- ever

appointments on a petty basis, i mean, remember this, i keep thinking about this, president obama had joe liebermanndorsed john mccain and he had an opportunity to take him out of the chairmanship of the homeland security exity acommittee after elected and he said, leave him, i'm not going to do that. he looked like someone worthy of a big office and not petty. >> petty politics. >> sometimes obama has been criticized for not being more into paying his opponents back. >> this is going to be a growth moment. this could be the thing that makes governor christie, if he rises to it, if he learn, if he gets new kinds of people played by larger and -- >> it's why so many of the supporters -- everything he said the other day turned out to be true. >> you might be able to do this in new jersey but on a larger scale i think governors often find out you can't. >> it's very difficult. new jersey governor's office is also very powerful. >> ryan, gloria, guys, thank you very much. >>> up next, is iraq on the verge of simply falling apart? a deadly wave of violence is inundating the country. we're going to baghd

pendulum swings too far, so i healthy debate -- i think it was two congressional two budgets ago, that lieberman and collins were utting forward the first homeland security discussions, didn't go very far but we need there'snue that and now more life and oxygen in that approach. a very healthy debate. the threat's not going away. the danger is out there. that?o how do we balance >> afghanistan, you mentioned were you chairman obviously surge.the paid very close to attention to that. that i think accomplished a lot within the limits of what it in a year or two. how worried are you about what year? this what do you think should happen? should we leave residual force there? the -- can the be?uation >> i have appreciation for how issues are.obs and so i worry -- i mean i worry a about the region. afghanistanuld like and pakistan to go away. don't think they're gonna go away soon. challenges that exist there from a terror standpoint civility standpoint are going to continue. do we, the is how and what's frankly, the united states's position in term outerms of longer comes. as important as the secure

senator lieberman and senator graham were over there, it was clear they were ready to do it. but this administration wanted everybody out. we predicted without that residual force to assist the military. that this whole thing would unravel. it has. the bloodiest battle of the whole iraq conflict was the battle of a through gentleman where 80-some brave marines gave hair lives and i have forgotten how many wounded. what do we need to do? there is not a lot we can do. but there is some. that's to get some people high level to give maliki some advice and counsel. get some equipment over there that he can use. but maliki has to reach out to the sunni rather than do we did after we left, that's to begin persecuting the sunni, include be his own vice president who was a sunni. the iranian presence grows every day there. there are thing we can do to be of assistance. and maliki has to change his attitude toward sunni. we have to have an an bar awakening. we had more casualties there than any other province. what do you say to americans when the banner of al qaeda is raised over a th

the healthy thing would have been to cycles ago that lieberman and collins were talking about the first homeland security discussions. it did not go far. we need to continue that. there is more life in oxygen and that approach. i think that is a healthy debate in this country. i hope we continue to have that. that is not going away. the danger is out there. >> you are chairman during the surge. and you paid close attention to that. you about what happens this year. should we use more force their? -- there? >> i tried to stay out of the policy world. i try to have an appreciation for how hard these jobs are. i said when i was chairman, and , everybodyle at would like afghanistan to go away. i do not think they're going to go away soon. the challenges that exist there from a terrorist in point, and from and instability standpoint continues. is, what is the united states position in that, in terms of longer-term outcomes? as important as the security forces have been in afghanistan, the train security forces, the issue, from my perspective, is government fees. there are very few afghan cit

senator lieberman is an option option. >> i hope not. for me the option is the worst option for united state. it is dishonor men and women of the american oteri thought they are, when did there come a type they are. it also creates all the danger for the u.s. the general keane has taught to bow. we've got to have some patience here. i know is that the deadline for making a decision on this is december 2014. but as general keane has said, there's an election coming up. president karzai has taken this position. it's not forget a short while ago he summoned the loya jirga, one of the people's meanings leaders around the country on this subject. what do they do? they voted to urge him to quickly enter the security or status forces agreement under which the united states of america. the afghan people know the terrible fate that awaits them if we pull out. it will be terrible for a not only in terms of it becoming a sanctuary for terrorists who will strike us again, but that is a critically important part of the world geostrategic lay. it will

and that was the point that the moderates like joe lieberman and people like that were no longer welcome. it is not the democratic party of harry truman anymore or even jfk. it is now the democratic party of marx and lenin. the union's control of and the communists control the unions. they make a policy. the communists had a policy. but the comprehensive immigration reform commitment be obamacare, cap and trade gimmickry energy, whenever it is , they make a union policy and the unions make a democratic party policy. if you want to know what the democrats are going to do tomorrow read the people's world today. communist party paper. because what is in their paper today will be on the floor of your house tomorrow. that is selling works. that is so small groups of people, less than 20,000 card-carrying communists in your country. that is have they took control valerians can dictate policy for more than 300 million people. that is headed do it. on give you an example. comprehensive immigration reform you are told by people like mr. gramm and fellow comrades like the man from arizona, mr. mcc

two budgets ago, lieberman and collins were the first homeland security discussions. it did not go very far. i think we need to continue that. there is more life and oxygen in that approach. i think that is a very healthy debate and i hope we continue to have that. the threat is not going away. the dangers out there. how do we balance that? >> afghanistan, you mentioned. your chairman during the search. no compost a lot in the limits of what it could do. how worried are you about what is going to happen this year? do you think we should leave residual force their? >> i have tried to stay out of the policy world. i was talking to bill earlier today. i have appreciation for how hard these jobs are. i worry a great deal about this region. i said when i was chairman and i repeat that -- many of us -- everyone would like afghanistan to go away. i do not think they will go away soon. the challenge that exists there from a terror standpoint and instability standpoint will continue. the question is, how do we at large -- what is the position in terms of a longer-term outcome?

so we started working with joe lieberman and susan collins. we realized maybe if it works with the house, a lot of things are talking about here we could increase the leverage of a subcommittee. then we say, over at gao they come up with the high risk list. it's a to-do list for us to do to reduce wasteful spending. we started partnering with the folks at gao and that was helpful. we got ourselves a new woman last year, to be omb director and they put together a good management team, who is now the deputy for management. they have a management initiative agenda for the administration. so why do we partner with them as well? with other people who will follow dr. coburn and i at the witness table, citizens against government waste, who really care about this compassionate about how do we eliminate wasteful spending. they key is to find that 80% of stuff the we agree on, all of us. then we increased the leverage of the subcommittee our committee and get real things done to make the kind of progress, the stuff we put in the legislation that dr. co

former police officer glenn lieberman, shown here on a jet ski, received $175,000 over four years afterxpress disgust at the actions of the individuals involved in this scheme. >> reporter: there is anger among the families of the heroes who died on 9/11. >> the firefighters and police i know were digging on the pile right after 9/11 to rescue and then recover. and many are dying today from the cancer, so it puts a rock against those who are so dedicated and truly represent who the police and fire are. >> reporter: george told me he's angered, sickened by what happened in this alleged fraud but he points out, you have to keep in mind his brother is a hero and many others who served and we shouldn't be focusing so much on these bad apples. bob woodruff, abc news, new york. >> the nation's bank will have to pay a multibillion fine in bernie madoff's ponzi scheme. jpmorgan has agreed to pay more than $2.5 billion to settle criminal charges and civil claims for ignoring obvious and ongoing signs of fraud. the bank insists it does not believe any employees knowingly took part in the scheme.