i think liechtenstein and -- some countries spend a few hundred dollars more, but it's not a whole heck of a lot. >> host: in your view, where is that money well spent and where should it fall off? >> guest: i think, first and foremost, it should go to great teachers. really great teachers who not only know their subject well, but can teach it well. just because you know a subject doesn't mean you can teach a subject well. so i think real investments in not just teacher salaries, but in hard core professional development that young, you know, beginning teachers need. so i think that's where the money is well spent. let the teachers be the true professionals they really want to be. the downside of that is we have to fire teachers who just aren't up to snuff. so i think investing in great teacher education, make it very competitive the way the top performing countries do in the rest of the world, that's where we can really invest. the buildings and all the other bells and whistles, if you don't have great teachers, i think we have to question why we're doing what we're doing. >> host: vic