we immediately sent a new mass mattress for the lincoln bed. the most uncomfortable bed. bucky and patty. our brother and sister-in-law said nobody could sleep on this bed. >> one night i was able to sleep in churchill's room and no way i could sleep. i was certain he was sitting in the corner drinking his brandy and smoking his cigar. that's the theme of a favorite story in world war ii, and he churchill came after pearl harbor, they were supposed to sign a document, but roosevelt didn't like the word associated nations and wanted to call them united nations. comes wheeling in to churchill's room to help him the news. and he comes out of bathtub, with nothing on. he said oh, no, please stay. the prime minister has nothing to hide from the president. so anyway, speaking of churchill, sticking his stomach out, i recognized there is no regular ritual day in the white house, but what i recognized, is the athleticism of you, and you wrote a diary. we are sad to think in the future, 200 years from now, is that people won't have diaries. did you have a regular time you wrote in

lincoln. this is the bed room as restored with the idea of using the facts about lincoln as possible in the room picture is not in color and the photographs taken by carpenter are not in color. they had that corona made for the top of the bed. the problem with this is, the bed was used in the other end of the house in what was called the other room and the ceilings are 22 feet high. you have a four foot difference between the level of the floor between most of the house and the east end. so this is shorter. so this is the crown and the idea that it was a state bed room. the furniture and the sofas same from england and when president truman created this room, they gave them back to the white house. most of it was there. the lamps and things, they were of the carpet patterns and the table, in the middle, which is almost weird with the creams carved on it. they thought that was the most beautiful table they had seen. it was being hauled out into the trash. they made them bring it back into the house because they loved victorian furniture. this is now the lincoln bedroom and to the right would be t

the first night they spent in the white house they were jumping up and down on the lincoln bed. this is cultural sign. >> how does that anything to do with this story? >> the sense there is no longer importance to people serving in government or in government there is a freedom from convention and the sense of freedom of kind of sanctity about things that pass through the service of government. >> will all right, moving on to the general services administration, million bucks for a party. it's not a lot of money for washington. >> cover charge. >> why are people so upset about this? >> i think i think our colleague peggy noonan hit it on had head this week. it's the way they are throwing our money away and laughing about it. i worked in government and there are people i disagreed on policy terms but they were generally publicly spirited people trying to make america a better place. and it seems like people enjoying living high on the hog and amused about it. >> a sense of invulnerability. i'm in government and i am living high on the hog and you taxpayers can't do anything about

first night clinton spent the night in the white house, guests were jumping up and down on the lincoln bed. >> how does this have any sense-- >> attached to a role in government. there's a freedom of convention, a sense of freedom of sanctity about things attached to service of government. >> all right. moving on to the general services administration, a million bucks for a party, it's a lot of money for a party and it's not a lot of money for washington. >> no, in terms of coverage charge. >> and why are people so upset about this? >> well, i think, i think our colleague peggy noonen hit it on the head, it's not a surprise they're wasting money, but the kind of the way they're throwing our money away and laughing about it. i worked brief in government and i've got to say there were a lot of people i disagreed with on policy terms, but my impression, they were generally publicly spirited people, trying to make america a et better place and what you see in the gsa. the people are enjoying living high on the hog and amused by it. >> a sense of invulnerability, the videos show, look, i'm in g

another little known fact is that james wormley was called upon to attend to president lincoln at his death bed. it's not well-known and documented in news paper accounts. it's challenged by senators sumner and surers. general mcclellan during the war years lived on and around la fayette square including madison house and was noted as dining frequently at wormleys giving elaborate meals for 20. by now the reputation of wormleys was international in scope. it was widely known as the residence of choice for many european and south american delegates and financiers and was described by the famous european author, anthony trollip, author in his multivolume treatment of his travels in america. while in washington in 1860, he was a frequent guest of benjamin taylor. he engaged rooms at the wormley's establishment on i street. in his book about his travels, he described wormley as thusly. i'm bound to say that my friend did well for me. i found myself put up at the house of one wormley, a colored man in i street to whose attention i can recommend any e englishman, who may chance to want porters in was

they had the biggest lincoln day dinner decades. this is hot bed of republican enthusiasm. it's there. >> eric: we want to move on. yesterday we touched on mormonism issue and if it would affect the romney campaign. if it was, where would it come from? last night, brit hume on o'reilly. this is what he said. >> we had a lot of people who were mormon, prominent people in the country and governor of massachusetts who was mormon. is there any real evidence that mormonism affected the conduct of their life in public policy in any peculiar way? i say no. harsh criticism of people's religion goes over badly with most americans. if you get attacks heard last week that congressman labrador was talking about, won't hurt him. it may help him. >> eric: agree? >> i spent part of my child in utah. only place a presbyterian and jew could be gentiles. i'm offended by the attention that the media has given. front cover of "time" to examine beliefs of the mormon. what had happened if after the 2000 nomination of joe lieberman, "time" or "newswee "newsweek" or "new york times" ran an article

bed for three weeks. during this time abe lincoln being constantly pounded by his cabinet and by the republicans decided, i better move on by myself if mcclellan is too sick to do so, so he invited all mcclellan's is you ord that generals up for a conversation. how would you defeat the confederates? doing so very effectively forced little mack's hand, so he got himself out of his sick bed in january of 1862 and met with the president and the cabinet, laid out his plan for the capture of the confederate capital here in richmond and the defeat of the confederate forces defending richmond. he told them that his plan would involve defeating the enemy's capacity to make war and he would do so through the use of maneuver as opposed to costly headlong assaults against confederate bastions. the seizure of what was known as strategic points by the napoleonic scholars of the day would enable him to grab the initiative and force the confederates to respond to his initiatives. and what he laid out then was a giant flanking attack. not a headlong assault from washington right down the telegraph road along the line of

lincoln or holland tunnel. >> yes, i have. >> what have you notice bed it at rush hour?. >> how do you get there except by car. >> a cab to the airport. >> what do you do about the fact that our whole economy is hardening of the arteries because we don't modernize. because things aren't able to grow? >> look, we need to find, as i said, we need to find way to do this. i know there isç talk about hybrid and electric technology. guess what? those cars aren't paying gasoline tax if they aren't putting gas in their cars. we need to look long-term but we also can't afford to put the bill on -- >> you know any building, right into the building of the great depression, the empire state building. >> thatd right, al smith put it up in 1930 in 13 months. >> what would you have said. >> we need to look the our house, chris. >> thank you very much. lost the argument tonight. joan and i won this one because it is about the future and you won't want us to grow. pete, thanks you. you're a good spokeman for w. >>> when we return, let me fin wish mitt romney's trash talk about president

the nearest rail head and taken by train to washington and put to bed in lafayette square by the white house. because he knows lincoln, and he's been really chummy with mary lincoln, he's a flatterer. he's a politician. his wife -- he shot his wife's lover and got off in the first insanity defense in federal court history. one of his lawyers was stanton who's now the secretary of war. so sickles gets carried, and lincoln knows sickles is a bit of a bser, but he makes such a case that he was the hero of gettysburg, and lincoln buys into it partly. and then lincoln is furious that after this three-day battle that mead doesn't immediately pursue and destroy the army of northern virginia. well, first of all, robert e. lee hoped that on july 4th -- the armies face each other on july 4th. lee hopes even on late july 3rd, he hopes mead will attack him. the army of northern virginia is badly defeated, but they are not advantage wished. they're still fighting those guys. but more importantly, three days of battle and all the marching beforehand has disorganized the union army, the army of the potomac almost as badly as disorg

now, the problem with this is the bed was used in the other end of the house in what was called the prince of wales room. this was lincoln's office. and the ceilings, because the east room ceilings are 22 feet high and the rest of the ceilings are 18 feet, you have a four-foot difference between the level of the floor. in most of the house and the east end. so this is shorter. but that's the crown, and the idea was a state bedroom. some of this furniture, the sofas came from england. a family had bought them at a white house sale and had it -- and when president truman was doing the white house and created this room, they gave them back to the white house. the rest of it, most of it was there, the lamps and things i don't know, but the other things were. the carpet patterns after one in an old drawing. that table in the middle is almost unimaginably weird with cranes carved all over it, that was the roos velts -- the theodore roosevelts thought that was the most beautiful table they'd ever seen. so it was being hauled out to send to the trash and they stopped the cart and made them bring it back in and put it in the house

bed. we have had enough of the penny. who needs you? >> what is said above the head of lincoln on the penny? >> i have no idea.s is my first time in america. i don't know. >> correct. >>> has america's coining gotten annoying? last week our neighbor to the north, canada and not santa announced their mint will end their production of the canadian penny. this fall is part of its austerity budget. yea. the finance minister jim flaharty, the h is not silent, the penny is currency without currency and it costs us 1.5 cents to produce this penny. all of which begs the question, should the united states follow the mapleleaf's lead and say adios to honest abe as well? or is the general public more nostalgic when it comes to this irrelevant pocket change? a reporter whose name is dances for pennies is out to learn more. he didn't. >> is the penny going the way of the doo-doo? well that, was a mythological creature, but let's see what the world would be like without a copper abraham lincoln. >> would you miss the penny? >> i would like to still have them around to throw them at things. they are still good for that, i su

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