senate, and they've come to hear abraham lincoln confront senator stephen a. douglasn the issue that threatens to tear america apart -- slavery. >> the debates between lincoln and douglas drew enormous crowds. >> people are drinking. people are cheering. people are fighting. it was almost pugilistic, as if people were coming to a boxing match to watch these two heavyweights slug it out. >> lincoln is a rookie politician, a member of the brand-new republican party. just four years old, it was formed to end slavery. >> he's an unknown, abraham lincoln's career as a politician has been almost nonexistent. >> the only thing lincoln has is his brain, is his ability to orate. that's it. >> his opponent in this election is the current senator of illinois, democrat stephen a. douglas. >> stephen a. douglas was among the most ruthless politicians of the day. >> more importantly, probably the most powerful democratic politician in the united states. >> i would call it david and goliath, but it's worse than that. it's david and goliath if david didn't even have a slingshot. >> h

one of the silent vignettes would be the lincoln douglas debates. my fourth grade teacher told me you can't be abraham lincoln, you are not tall enough. to add insult to injury, she said, you have to be stephen douglas. [laughter] professor silverman: i swore that i would study abraham lincoln for the rest of my life and try to make a contribution. i am a product of the virginia public schools and i can tell you that very little of abraham lincoln was said flatteringly in the state of virginia as i was growing up. but those comments were glowing compared to what i can countered when i into south carolina in 1984. one of my proudest accomplishments in the fact that i have been teaching courses to packed classrooms on abraham lincoln in the state of south carolina which i don't think it's a small accomplishment whatsoever. [applause] professor silverman: i'm going to tell you what i tell my students before each class. come back with me in history, fasten your seatbelts, we're going to take a magic carpet ride tonight through the study of abraham lincol

the lincoln/douglas debates were pretty brutal. lincoln was a politician so he knew how to get beaten up in everything. but were he alive and witnessing some of what has happened in this presidential campaign season, i think he would be just appalled. i really do. and i don't think he would be able to support anything about exclusion of immigrants just because of who they are. >> thank you, professor. >> oh, wow. thank you so much. thank you so much. >>> book tv on c-span2. 48 hours of non-fiction books and authors every weekend. here are some featured programs this weekend. at saturday at noon eastern, the 18th annual harlem book fair. it's the largest african-american book fair and the premier black literary event in harlem. our subject includes black writers and the state of literature, diversity and book publishing. a panel of discussion, and author eddie glaud discussing his book, "democracy in black: a race still in slaves the american soul." at 10:00 p.m. eastern saturday, afterwards, eric fair, author of "consequence: a memo

lincoln, you're not tall enough. to add insult to injury, she said, you have to be steven douglas. so i swore by all that was sacred that i was going to study abraham lincoln for the rest of my life and try to make a contribution. now, i grew up right across the river in alexandria, virginia. i'm a product of the virginia public schools and i can tell you that very little about abraham lincoln was said flatteringly in the state of virginia as i was growing up. but those comments were glowing compared to what i encountered when i first came to south carolina in 1984. so one of my proudest accomplishments is the fact that for 32 years now, i just finished my 32nd year, i've been teaching courses to packed classrooms on abraham lincoln in the state of south carolina, which i don't think is a small accomplishment whatsoever. [ applause ] so i'm going to tell you what i tell my students before each class. come back with me in history. fasten your seatbelts. we're going to take a magic carpet ride tonight through the study of abraham lincoln and his relationship with immigrants. may 4th,

lincoln, you're not tall enough. to add insult to injury, she said, you have to be steven douglas. so i swore by all that was sacred that i was going to study abraham lincoln for the rest of my life and try to make a contribution. now, i grew up right across the river in alexandria, virginia. i'm a product of the virginia public schools and i can tell you that very little about abraham lincoln was said flatteringly in the state of virginia as i was growing up. but those comments were glowing compared to what i encountered when i first came to south carolina in 1984. so one of my proudest accomplishments is the fact that for 32 years now, i just finished my 32nd year, i've been teaching courses to packed classrooms on abraham lincoln in the state of south carolina, which i don't think is a small accomplishment whatsoever. [ applause ] so i'm going to tell you what i tell my students before each class. come back with me in history. fasten your seatbelts. we're going to take a magic carpet ride tonight through the study of abraham lincoln and his relationship with immigrants. may 4th,

the lincoln/douglas debates were pretty brutal. lincoln was a politics. but were he alive and witnessen some of what has happened in this presidential campaign season, i think he would be appalled. i really do. i don't think he would be able to support anything about exclusion of immigrants just because of who they are. >> thank you, professor. >> oh, wow. thank you so much. thank you so much. >> thank for you visiting with us. >> i'll get out of your way. >>> tonight hillary clinton becomes the first woman to accept a major political party's nomination for president of the united states. and with c-span, you have many convenient options for watching the entire speech without any interruptions. watch her historic acceptance speech live on c-span. listen to it on the c-span radio app. watch it live or on demand on your desktop, tablet or smartphone at cspan.org. hillary clinton's historic acceptance speech tonight on c-sp c-span, the c-span radio app and cspan.org. >>> coming up next on the president sis, "the washington post's" journalist bob woodward tal

but lincoln was again like -- there was a famous occasion in the douglas-lincoln debates where lincoln responds by saying my opponent accuses me of being two-faced. if i had another face, would i wear this one. and that element here where he's using it again of a humility which is not completely forced, not completely fictional. lincoln knew who he was. he knew what he looked like. he was aware of that, and it was something again in terms of the smoothness and urbanity that he could use to his advantage as this is frontiersman coming east. whitman, i'm bringing in walt whitman here because they share this curious connection. whitman comes to idolize lincoln. they never met. and there's this amazing quote by whitman in one of his political traks in 1856 called the 18th president. he misses lincoln by two. the redeemer president. he welcomed a redeemer president of the united states. it would come out of the real west, the log hut, the clearing, the woods, the prairie. he would be much pleased to see some heroic healthy bodied middle aged beard-faced american black smith or boatman come

the lincoln douglas debates were pretty brutal and lincoln was a politician. he knew how to get beaten up and everything. were he alive and witnessing some of what happened in this presidential campaign season, i think he would be just appalled. i really do. and i don't think he would be able to support anything about exclusion of immigrants just because of who they are. [ applause ] >> oh, wow! thank you so much. thank you so much! >>> coming up this weekend on american history tv on c-span3. saturday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on lectures in history. virginia commonwealth university instructor. and sunday morning at 0k a.m. "road to the white house" rewind. the 1852 and 1948 national conventions. dwoi in 1948, the first televised conventions where president harry truman accepted his party's nomination. >> the failure to do anything about high prices and the failure to do anything about housing, my dooutd duty as president requires i use every means within my power to get the laws the people need on such importance of urgency. >> and at 6:00 on american artif

when you think about the lincoln douglas debate for the right way forward. freedom in order, justice and security bees are complementary values of american life. that isn't easy. previous generations have had to overcome terrible challenges and no one more so than abraham lincoln. but in the end, if we do the work, we will cease to be divided with liberty and justice for all. and president lincoln's words, the last best hope of earth. thank you all very much. [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ at "washington post".com the last stand for the never trumped movement, the committee meeting thursday and friday joining on the phone from cleveland is ed o'keefe from the "washington post." rarely have these sessions generated so much interest. so walk us through the various scenarios. >> this is 712 member group that is responsible for setting the rules of the road not only for how the nominee will be nominated next week, but also potentially starting the groundwork in 2020 when we do this all over again or when donald trump is reelected. the trump campaign is h

you are reminded of that when you read history and think about p the lincoln- douglas debates. debate over the right way forward. and sometimes, we have to balance competing values like freedom and order and justice and sdurt. they are complimentary values of american life. that is not easy. previous generations have had to overcome terrible challenges and no one more so than abraham lincoln. but in the end, if we do the work, we will cease to be divided. we in fact will be indevisable and justice for all. and we will remain in president lincoln's words. the last best hope for earth. thank you all very much. [applause] >> hillary clinton in front of an audience in the historic state house in springfield, illinois and echoing some of the history of abraham who spoke there 160 years ago and taking a lot of her speech to blast her republican competitor donald trump, the man who is about to win the official republican nomination for president. we'll talk about what the democratic nominee had to say can karl rove. deputy chief of staff to george w. bush and a fox newses contributor,

and we know about the great debates like the lincoln douglas debate.litics wer of money at the time was just not each factor. politics are much more local much more about him shaking and building coalition and a lot of things that we see today just did not exist back then. i will tell you that there is also a profound lincoln quote which i can't give you directly off the top of myl head in which he want and this was after the civil war have been settled he warned about the rise of corporate power in america and the ability for mass aggregations of wealth and money to start exerting themselves on the political system in a way that would threaten the integrity of the republic. i think in large part that is what we are seeing today. our republic is being threatened by these mass concentrations of wealth and they want to constantly exert themselves over policymaking. >> host: what if anything do you accept the change in and how will it happen.ng. >> guest: realistically, i think a level change. i think what we are seeing today is a new reform movement arising. just as citizens united occurr

you're reminded of that when you read history, when you think about the lincoln-douglas debates. debate over the right way forward. sometimes we have to balance competing values like freedom and order, justice and security. these are complimentary values of american life. that isn't easy. previous generations have had to overcome terrible challenges. and no one more so than abraham lincoln. but in the end, if we do the work, we will cease to be divided. we, in fact, will be indivisible with liberty and justice for all, and we will remain, in president lincoln's words, the last best hope of earth. thank you all very much. >> the presumptive democratic presidential nominee hillary clinton wrapping up a half hour speech at the old state house in springfield, illinois. that's the site, by the way, where president abraham lincoln delivered his house divided speech about slavery. spoke about healing the country. david kbregry with us host of david gregory show podcast and cnn political reporter malika henderson. this was a double pronged speech about secretary of state, talking about r

lincoln had to wear a stove pipe fact as a passive aggressive gesture to i'm really all the. douglas isn't called the little giant for nothing because he was only 5'1", it must have been amazing so here lincoln is towering over little mack, the little napoleon, the most ego technical assistance kalman in american history. he is not moving this again where mcclellan -- and mcclellan thought lincoln was a fool and treated him rudely. lincoln, one of the virtues i like about him is he's patient and says mildly to mcclellan before he fires him "general, if you're not using your army, may i borrow it." and mcclellan being obtuse and self-important, he didn't get it he felt like lincoln was just a joke. lincoln fires him. this is not the meeting in which lincoln fires mcclellan. it's where he's trying to find out what mcclellan is doing in october '62. but i'm showing this picture because it's the beginning of photojournalism that the camera is big, cumbersome. there was the process of taking the plate and developing it. gardner couldn't manipulate the camera that easily what lincoln is do

i always wanted to know, why were the lincoln-douglas debates in quincy.wasn't until i studied this episode i realizes that it was really because of jonas. jonas lived there and jonas brought the debates there, among other places. erin: right. gary: let's see if i have anything else to tell you about -- erin: you have -- gary: oh, yeah, you will like this story. one of the things i try to explain in the book is i try to explain that in addition to everything else, lincoln had remarkable human qualities. we know that from so many things we read and obviously he just had a way of -- he knew how to deal with people and part of that was learning how to deal with people who were not like him. o this man at schuler -- altschuler is a bavarian jew who imgrates in the late 1840's, decides he wants -- wants to be a photographer and he hears in 1857 that abraham lincoln, the famous lawyer, is coming to town so m -- when lincoln shows up, atschuler has walk he and to say, mr. lincoln, i would like to you come ofe to my shop so i can take a tick -- picture of you." no

theways wanted to know why lincoln-douglas debates in quincy.ot until i studied this book that i realized, it was because of jonas. and broughtthere the debate there among other places. let's see if i have anything else to tell you -- >> you have to tell us -- mr. zola: you will like the story. the things that had to explain in the book, i try to explain that in addition to everything else, lincoln had remarkable human qualities. we know that from some of the things we read. obviously, he just had a way of, he knew how to deal with people. but that was when he had to do with people who are not like him. man, a bavarian to come to the united states and integrates with others. he decides he was to be a photographer. urbanales in champaign, and he hears in 1857 that a famous lawyer, abraham lincoln is coming to town. lincoln shows up and he has the gumption to walk up to him and say, mr. lincoln, i would like you to come over to my shop so i can take a picture of you. lincoln did not know this man from anything. he did not know him at all. i can im

in our research we found that lincoln supposedly was the most photographed president of the 19th century and fredrick douglas the overall most photographed. lincoln led such a short life professionally. how could it be that -- was he using the photographers that extensively and why didn't other presidents? >> again, it's the sort of thing that seems obvious to us now. lincoln and whitman understand quickly that the medium is plastic, it's mobile. it allows you -- it's rapid. it's fast. it can keep up with current events as we saw with the battlefield pictures and the almost journalistic photo oppictures of him and mcclellan. there is element of visibility that lincoln exploits. we don't know how. lincoln was interested in technology as his patent indicates. he was interested in the process of war. and there was something about it that made it attractive to him. i suppose you could say if you want to be malicious you could say lincoln was egotist and liked to look at himself. i don't think it is the case but that he wanted to be visible to the public. fredrick douglas is an interesting side case, parallel cas

to be sure, we have the lincoln of listed base -- douglas d ebates and they represent probably the first national political debates, but fundamentally, candidates were nominated. we indicate in the late 1980's conventions began. it was not until 1932 when franklin dr. roo se -- franklin d. roosevelt that a candidate went to a convention. put whistle stop campaigns around 1948. they came earlier than that great the reason we did that is probably the most famous and important whistle stop campaign was harry truman's. give 'em hell, harry, send a message to the republican congress, the do-nothing congress. befores in the era television, the first television commercial didn't emerge until 1952. in 1960 we had the first televised debate. some of you are probably old enough to remember the nixon-kennedy debate. i'm just fairly old enough to remember that they occurred. by 1992, ross perot and bill clinton in particular used talk shows to go over the head of these -- the institutional media and with talk shows was the advent of cable tv. as somebody who in 1996 was one of the clinton's principa

you're reminded of that when you read history, when you think about the lincoln douglas debates, debaterward, and sometimes we have to balance competing values like freedom and order, justice and security, these are complementary values of american li life. that isn't easy. previous generations have had to overcome terrible challenges and no one more so than abraham lincoln. but in the end, if we do the work, we will cease to be divided. we, in fact, will be indivisible with liberty and justice for all, and we will remain in president lincoln's words the last best hope of earth. thank you, all, very much. [ applause ] ♪ this is my fight song take back my life song prove i'm all right song ♪ ♪ my power's turned up i'll be strong ♪ ♪ i'll play my fight song and i don't really care if nobody else believes ♪ ♪ because i've still got a lot of fight left in me ♪ ♪ losing friends and chasing sleep ♪ ♪ everybody's worried about me ♪ ♪ in too deep say i'm in too deep ♪ ♪ been two years i miss my home ♪ ♪ fire burning in my bones ♪ ♪ still believe yeah, i still believe ♪ ♪ all those things i didn

you're reminded of that when you read history, when you think about the lincoln/douglas debates.debate over the right way forward. and sometimes, we have to balance competing values like freedom and order, justice and security, complementary values of american life. that isn't easy. previous generations have had to overcome terrible challenges and no one more so than abraham lincoln. but in the end, if we do the work, we will cease to be divided. we, in fact, will be indivisible with justice for all. and we will remain in president lincoln's words, the best, last hope of earth. thank you all, very much. ♪ this is my fight song take back my life song ♪ ♪ prove i'm all right song ♪ my power's turned up right now i'll be strong ♪ ♪ i'll play my fight song and i don't really care if nobody else believes ♪ ♪ because i've still got a lot of fight left in me ♪ ♪ losing friends and i'm chasing everybody's worried about me ♪ ♪ in too deep say i'm in too deep ♪ ♪ it's been two years, i miss my home, the fire burning in my bones ♪ ♪ i still believe yeah, i still believe ♪ ♪ and all of those

lincoln, in the first of his seven 1858 debates with steven douglas called by idea of a statesman. the compromise somewhat diffused the slavery issue and sectional animosities for three decades. it did so by forbidding slavery in the louisiana territory north of the line that included the kansas and nebraska territories. the kansas-nebraska act introduced by senator douglas empowered the residents of those two territories to decide whether or not to have the institution of slavery. the act's premise was that the distilled essence of the american project is democracy and that the distilled essence of democracy is majority rule. and that therefore, it was right that there should be popular sovereignty in the territories regarding the great matter of slavery. people should have the right to vote it up or vote it down. lincoln disagreed. he responded to the act with a controlled, canny, patient very he men's. the most morally luminous career in the history of american democracy took its bearing from the principle that there is more to america's purpose, more to justice, than majorities

columbia delineated by george washington and graced by abraham lincoln, the district of columbia, home of that great republican frederick douglas and capital of the greatest country in the world, and in accordance with the will of its citizens, our delegation is duly bound to cast ten votes for senator rubio and nine votes for governor kasich. >> hard to parse what's going on there in terms of the booing. >> there's two conflicting rules at work with the district of columbia. >> district of columbia, 19 votes trump. >> we flipped away from what the d.c. delegation had reported which was zero votes for trump. what the convention recorded was 19 votes for trump even though they said from the floor they were casting zero votes for trump. >> the reason for this is specific. there were two conflicting rules about how the delegates from d.c. were supposed to vote. one rule said if only one candidate's name is placed into nomination at this convention, then all the delegates are required to vote as a unit for that candidate. donald trump is the only candidate whose name was placed in nomination. on the other hand, d.c. also had the ru

lincoln really made things happen. and so he is included in a fictional story. mr. roosevelt here has written a fictional story but he uses actual people that existed. justice frankfurter, justice douglas, attorney general biddle. these are actual real people. but he's telling a fictional story. and we are telling a fictional story using actual people and actual institution and actual facts. and you know, we're not a dock men tarn. i know that that criticism was made by a dock men tearian. and his job is to tell the photographic truth. we are van goghs of the theater. we capture the emotion and the essential truth of that experience. [ applause ] >> in the middle here, can we pass the microphone to the man in the blue shirt there? >> i want to just thank you also. i belong to a japanese american buddhist temple and one of the offerings in our library is a book called "rice country." and in that book in the early chapters they talk about the jacl. but in doing so they portray it as the japanese american collusion league more than anything else. and i want to thank you for actually setting that straight. and in my mind, allowing me to understand the mitigation that the jacl played in try

lincoln really made , so he is included in a fictional story. here has written a fictional story but he uses actual people that existed, justice frank berger. justice douglas. iddle.ey general b these are real people but he is telling a fictional story. fictional story using actual institutions and actual facts. i know that criticism was made by a documentarian. his job is to tell the photographic truth. goghs of the theater. we capture the essential truth of that experience. [applause] in the middle, can we pass the microphone? >> i want to thank you also. japanese-american buddhist temple and one of the offerings in our library is a book called "rice country." in the early chapters, they talk about j a.c.l.. they referred to it as a collusion league more than anything else. i want to thank you for setting that straight and allowing me to the mitigation the j a.c.l. played in protecting the population in the camps. ofquestion is, i see a lot results of japanese americans trying to stay under the radar post war. the buddhist churches of america patterns aform methodist kind of form. is, isuess my question there any way around that? i just don't even know.

douglas. thank you, carl. >> when we come back, the battle of the talk show hosts, they have the ears of the voters. what do they say about donald trump and the party of lincoln>> 11 p.m. on the east coast, 6 a.m. on istanbul, the sun rising on a city reeling from the bloody airport attack that killed 44 people. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. police desperately looking for clues, searching a neighborhood for information about the money believ -- men believed to have carried out the attack. ahead of the july fourth weekend, americans wonder are terror fears the new normal? i want to go to nima elbagir in istanbul. we're learning more about the people involved in this attack. what do we know? >> reporter: we