louis american," lizz brown.thank you both for being here. >> thank you, rev. >> thank you for having me. >> patricia, what do you want to hear from the governor? >> you know what, reverend, i'm not sure what i'd like to hear from the governor. i haven't heard anything that he's done anything to help the situation. from not removing mcculloch, to putting a curfew on the town and now a state of emergency. i'm not quite sure what the governor can say or do that would be helpful or help ease tensions right now. i don't know. >> lizz, anything he could say that you'd want to hear? >> i would love to hear him, given the fact that we just had a story break here in missouri that bob mcculloch actually lied when he went on the air on two different stations, saying that he had talked to the judge and the judge had given him permission to release this information, or this transcript from the grand jury. i think that that's almost an actionable case onn ahis law license. so given these proven he cannot be fair or impartial,

go ahead, lizz. >> absolutely.emember earlier in the summer, it was bob mcculloch who gave the charge to governor nixon to man up and make the decision on whether or not bob mcculloch was going to be removed from the case. i think kendall makes a wonderful point that bob mcculloch should have manned up, if he felt there was no evidence to proceed with an indictment, instead of hiding behind the grand jury and playing in the court of public opinion that i'm giving all this evidence to them so that we can reach a fair decision. that's not true. man up and say that i don't think that there's a case and do not hide behind the grand jury. >> already, kendall coffey, lizz brown, appreciate the time tonight. >>> up next, the unrest goes national. leaders are calling for calm as we approach another night of protests. this is "hardball," the place for politics. r credit score, they don't have one. r credit score, but they do. your score still needs someone to take care of it. it needs your help. for the low price of complet

joining me lizz brown. this seems to be -- the reason i want to have frank on -- and it's not something i really like doing -- is that there is this kind of -- there's ripples of something dark and ugly that i started to see in social media around folks in the st. louis area that i worry about in advance of what's coming down the pike. and so much of the attention has been on, quote, the protesters getting violent and it doesn't seem to me that the ugliness is necessarily coming from those and certainly not from those quadrants exclusively. >> i think that what we really have to have a discussion about, chris, is who sets the tone, what tone has been set? and i will charge that the tone has been set that would allow for racist organization like the klan to feel comfortable in recruitment. and what is the tone that's been set? the tone that has been set is that african-americans, largely peaceful african-americans protesters and activists need to have a response, a military response to them. it's almost like

. >> lizz, let's expound upon that.e invite you on partly because% you've been writing about all this, but as you mentioned, you have a lot of experience there in the courtroom as well. you talk about the type of information that was provided. in your view as a lawyer, how common is it for the prosecutor to go through so much factual material in announcing a no-true bill, in announcing the lack of indictment? because we were watching this and i was taking notes and i'm hearing about the blood on the car, i'm hearing about the pacing, about how far part they were, a voluminous amount of factual, oral presentation about a secret grand jury proceeding. >> i would use the terms document dump. this is an action that attorneys use to dump a lot of information on people in hopes that people will not get to the truth of the matter. that's what he was doing. and then also, we also have to analyze what bob mcculloch does from a pr perspective. he has been in the position of arguing this case through pr. we're going to leak this i

a -- why the most expenseive midterm ever has our all-stars seeing stars, we have rich edison, and lizz mcdonnell. and tracy byrnes. if this is where the money that gone woe. >> hundred million dollar campaigns in north carolina, kentucky, and all out side money. neil: good for local stations, potentially good for us. >> true. but, it is -- we have reached a point where elections are so focused nationaly, you don't just have a slight national interest, you have a major naitonal interest, it is coming up withnese numbers. neil: liz, we b bemoan negative ads but they work. >> that is right they connection, and in this political season because, we are seeing the most frustration with congress. and the most outrage over lack of economic growth of the country, akin to 2006 when democrats swept in midterms, that is why it is renails, but i think -- recession nateing but i think that the american people know that pocketbook issues that work issuwashington dc needs toe the impediments to the economic growth. neil: i am thinking of that north carolina race, each year people spend more, but where

liz winston, writer, comedian and author of lizz free or die.orian warner, msnbc contributor, political scientist and a fellow at the roosevelt institute. normally i give you the first word. but y'all won big. so ron, you're going to get the first word today. and i am really trying to think through how the presidents react to this moment. going back to the jackie robinson all-stars, is your team winning well and is the president's team losing well in the sense of still trying to find a place of power in the context o it have loss? >> i think republicans are winning well. republicans were smart not to gloat on election night and john boehner said we're not going to gloat. we need to go out and do the work that the american people hired us to do. and that means we need to hold firm and say this is what i believe. let's see if we can get something done. >> did they have electoral incentive? let me back off for a second. does the party who hopes to capture the white house from the sitting p t in two years and do they have any incentive given this el

. >> louisiana runoff, december 6th in north carolina, lizz. hold on against thom tillis. >> the early voting machine, i didn't have to ask about it, i saw it when i was driving everywhere. i'm going with hagan. >> this was maybe the toughest one for me to predict and i waivered back and forth. a very slight edge to hagan here. i think democrats have a great ground game and assisted by other progressive groups that have been building in this for years for over a year and i think that hagan has a very slight edge on election day. but this is going to be very, very close. >> norm? >> i go with hagan who started out as one of the really vulnerable ones. but in a year where people don't like government much and there's been tribal politics and confrontational politics in north carolina, tom tillis was not the best candidate for republicans to put up, because he's the face of that confrontation. >> face of the republican state of 2020. jean shaheen and scott brown. lizz, is scott going to become a new hampshire senator? >> not even a little bit. new

. >> lizz brown. thank you very much. joining me now is chief thompson. respond to the tone that's been set by law enforcement and the tone you're trying to set with the mayor and charlie dooley today. >> the tone in st. louis is that we're working on bridging gaps. while lots of people are talking, we're actually sitting down with organizers and protesters trying to come to common ground. we've talked about what the rule of engagement are, we've talked about a variety of things. there's a lot of dialogue going on at a grassroots level. i think that's important. >> i've got to say there's this expectation that you can feel brewing in the air and the press plays part of that. but not just the press. governor nixon coming out and saying we've got the national guard on stand-by, at what point do you enter into this vicious cycle where there's this self-fulfilling nature to the whole thing where you have folks like the grand wizard of the klan distributing flyers and everybody fearful that something will happen and that creates the condition for something ugl

we have to see what form that takes, lizz brown, chris king, thank you for joining us.y with your loved ones. >> the question is are you getting home to be with your loved ones for this thanksgiving? the weather is not cooperating. so many flights canceled yesterday. the roads were really bad for a lot of people due to the nor'easter we experienced on wednesday. many of you are probably watching us from the airport tvs, in fact. we know that 700 flights were called off, 4,000 others delayed. the big question is, what about today? what's in store for our holiday. jennifer gray is here. please tell me there's there news. >> things are much, much better. airlines should be getting back on track. if you had to spend the night in the airport, hopefully you'll be able to get a flight soon. the airlines will be playing catch-up as the system moves out. it was a fast mover, so it did dump lanchlg amounts of snow. in virginia, we saw close to a foot. some areas, even more. a lot of snow with this, but it did impact the interior sections more. here's an outlook at thanksgiving da