he said he met with lois lerner. we contact you and say why didn't you give it to us, and then you knew you were caught. you didn't tell us this, but we knew, we didn't give it to you because we don't got it. now we have to tell the whole world we lost them. and what better to do it than friday, june 13th, saying we're complying with some senate concern, put it on page seven of the third addendum and say you know what? we may have a problem with lois lerner e-mails. >> good. >> i think all kinds of people logically going through this would say that's what prompted these guys. you just say, well, we better come clean, plus, you've already told us you knew clear back in april that you lost them. so you wait two months, and then you say, well, we better do it june 13, just four days after they figured out justice and the irs were working together in 2010. and they got an e-mail that indicates that, and we can't produce it. >> when you find any direct evidence to support that assertion, i'd be happy to see it. if you thi

at the hearing they released e-mails from lois lerner regarding irs instant messaging system called ocs that he claimed that miss lerner intentionally sought to hide information from congress. despite your testimony that you were unfamiliar with the system and would be happy to look into its use, republican members repeatedly requested you about the specifics of ocs. commissioner, now that you have learned of the system, you can describe what ocs is? >> ocs actually provided a letter to the committee that the chairman referenced earlier. what i have been adviced is that it is a system that exists in microsoft systems. and it basically allowed people around the country -- it can have a teleconference and you can put the same information up on the screen and everybody looks at it and it's a way to have a telecommunication s meeting. it allows you to have an instant messaging capacity. i don't use it because i didn't know it existed. much like your cell phone, if they see you are online, they can send you a text message. it's like calling you on the phone. like all text messages, it's some

you can have all sorts of e-mail from lois lerner, "lois, can you send it?" we have extensive correspondence back and forth. the only documents that are missing are the nights that you would have went in -- maybe you have and didn't tell us -- got a search warrant or got a court order and seized her files at the get-go, maybe we would have known all these e-mails were missing a year ago. but the fact that e-mails she has sent outside of the irs are missing, she had direct correspondence with people within the justice department, and you are now withholding information from the committee and congress and the american people, it seems to me they are the documents you are withholding. >> i'm not sure it is a valid assumption they are lois lerner e-mails we are withholding. i don't think that is a fair resumption. >> but what is fair to say is you cannot guarantee they are not. >> i have not looked at all the documents. i cannot answer the questions. >> we would like you to look at a see you can give us more information. it would be nice to get them. i will recog

lois lerner? >> have what? >> information to should 6103 she sent you a disc with 1.1 million applications with some 30 individuals have privilege information for 6103. the reason i bring that up is i'm hampered as a member of congress with pertinent information of 6103 and this is a willy-nilly just a flippant aspect of sharing a disc. she knew what was on there. >> i don't know that she knew there was -- >> or the enough to ditch it was represented to us at the time became that there was none. and i do know is she's the one who sent it or someone else from the irs -- >> weight. she's the one, the fbi says they're all for me. says they're all for me. she is one of correspondence in regards to the format of the disc. >> but that doesn't necessary mean she prepared the discourse centered. >> just oversight of that, right? >> i don't know if that's within her control are not the i just don't know. the question is whether or not whoever sent it news with 6103 information on it. >> she's been involved in this regar

you can have all sorts of e-mail from lois lerner, "lois, can you send it?" correspondenceve back and forth, the only documents that are missing are the nights that you would have went in -- maybe you have and didn't tell us -- got a search warrant or got a court order and seized her files at the get go, maybe we would have known all these e-mails were missing a year ago. but the fact that e-mails she has sent outside of the irs are missing, she had direct correspondence with people within the justice department, and you are now withholding information from the committee and congress and the american people, it seems to me they are the documents you are withholding. >> i'm not sure it is a valid assumption they are lois lerner e-mails we are withholding. i don't think that is a fair resumption. >> but what is fair to say is you cannot guarantee they are not. >> i have not looked at all the documents. i cannot answer the questions. >> we would like you to look at a see you can give us more information. it would be nice to get them. i will recognize the gentlem

investigating lois lerner? they didn't even know about the lost emails?y didn't each know about her hard drive that had supposedly crashed? so, what kind of an investigation is this you don't even have that basic information? it's a joke. let me also add, the "wall street journal" also had a source in the doj that said the doj probably wasn't going to bring charges against lois lerner. you can't trust the doj. >> i don't know why the media just looks the other way. congress is sort of aggressive on this. not wholly. i would be be a lot more aggressive investigating. this and the attorney general isn't interested in it. and the president calls it a phony scandal. we have got a woman who we know lied with a planted question. >> and says there is not a smidgen of corruption. >> that's the president. and we know that she is trying to subvert congress' duty to oversee what is going on at the irs by telling basically everyone to hide things in their emails. >> right. i want people to know this isn't going to go away. it's never going to go away. until we get to

i yield. >> one every the reasons is we didn't have the report from lois lerner. but for that we never would have had mr. pill ger or mr. smith from the justice department for a deposition. mr. george didn't have that information in his hand. >> let's let the witness answer a question here. mr. cole, are you aware of any information to the effect that inspector general's statement there is incorrect? >> no. the understanding i have of the interactions between the justice department and the i.r.s. on those two meetings was that the i.r.s. in the first one said there's really nothing we can do here, and nothing came of it. and in the second meeting there was never any substance discussed. it never was followed up on. >> i thank you for that, ann and i yield back, mr. chairman. >> the point i'm making is that's the time frame -- if that's the time frame where the emails are lost -- i'm not even sure the i.r.s. was going to tell us they lost the emails but for the requests which uncovered the richard pilger-lois lerner correspondence. once they knew we got something f

if it's only lois lerner, lois lerner should go to jail. and that's not what's happening under attorney general eric holder. >> you can can see more of our interview with chairman issa. we spent a lot of time with him today in the hearing room. over the next couple days go to gretawire.com to see more of our interview with him. >> and this is a fox news alert. buses full of immigrants will now skip an arizona town where today new protests broke out. but these kids need to go somewhere. so which american town will they be bused too now? the nation is in play. could it be your town? "on the record" is investigating. and on the border in texas, border patrol agents trying to stop the flood of immigrants cross ago a dangerous river. we have team coverage of the border battle. fox news taking you along the rio grande river with the border patrol. but, first, the protests in arizona. fox phoenix reporter andrew hasbun is live with the latest. andrew. >> at least for today those undocumented immigrant children will not be coming to oracle, arizona

and lois lerner thought publicly and said publicly, they want us to fix it, and lois lerner went about trying to fix it, by going after conservative groups for what they believed and working with the department of justice to try to get audits and further prosecution of people who essentially were conservatives and asserting their constitutional free speech. mr. cole, i hope that you would never investigate lois learner or the crimes related to this if there wasn't a smidgen of evidence. i would hope crimes were committed, regulations were violated. rules were broken and americans constitutional rights were violated by lois lerner and others around her, and i would hope that's the reason your investigation is ongoing, and i look forward to those privileged logs. >> gentleman from nevada is recognized -- we're going to come back, we're going to recess, if you want to go now, we have 3:40 left until the vote. >> i ask for unanimous consent under rule nine that the minority be given equal time based on the fact that the chairman went over an additional five minutes. >> i've been very lenie

first, we were promised the irs would produce all of lois lerner's e-mails. then we learned some had been destroyed and there was absolutely no way he could produce all of ms. lerner's e-mails to congress. second, we were told the irs had confirmed that all back updates with lois lerner's e-mails had been destroyed. then we learned last week from irs attorney thomas kane that a backup tape may exist. third, we were told there was one harddrive crash, lois lerners and then the ways and means committee told us there were seven or eight total crashes and now we learn that there may be as many as 20. think about this. the irs has identified 83 custodians of documents and information. the irs has identified these people, associated with this targeting of conservative groups, and now almost a fourth of them may have had harddrive crashes. unbelievable. first, we were told that irs found utin april of 2014 that ms. lerner's e-mails were lost, but then we learned they knew on february 4th, 2013, about the hard drive crash and it found out just days later that the hard

it's a tough sell. >> lois lerner cannot complain about being held in contempt when she clearly full contempt. as irs commissioner she makes a prime time nbc host. slow lerner. >> member of congress fed up with the tea party. you know this is how they there are plenty. >> her job is to adjudicate. >> emails as well, which not exactly something that, you know -- >> -- yeah. not who has used the a word. should somebody who has authority over who gets investigated by the irs look at one said of the country sand say they are all that way. >> we don't know that she only looks at one side of the country that way. >> there are republicans who think this. >> >> but they are not running the irs right now. >> neither is she now. >> have this opinion and not necessarily be going after people. >> how about this one? this one, kirsten, here you go, kirsten. >> defamed very badly, i don't think this is the smoking gun. >> here, defend this one. so we don't need to worry about alien terrorists. it's our own crazies that will take us down. >> being sar cass -- sarcastic. i have heard plenty of repub

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a call for irs official lois lerner to be arrested. enough developments in the irs scandal is just minutes away right here "on the record." and this is a fox news alert. more and more immigrant children are streaming across our border without their parents. the u.s. desperately trying to figure out where to put thousands and thousands of these young children. tonight, we are going to talk to an arizona sheriff trying to take care of the children while also battling drug cartels. this will stun president obama. now reverend jesse jackson is slamming him over his handling of the crisis. jesse jackson is here and donald trump goes "on the record" about the border crisis. to the border where hundreds of immigrants just arrived. live with the latest, bill. >> yeah, greta, we do have some recent numbers for you. we know that as of yesterday a plane full of 140 illegal immigrants did fly into el paso and, again today, another planeful of again 180 illegal immigrants did arrive today. one of the local relief shelters out here calls the enuncia

that's why the follow-up didn't occur, two days before the very lawyer who met with lois lerner in 2010 got the database in the format they wanted. two days before -- jump ahead three days later, his meeting with miss lerner again says the follow-up will take place about but the follow-up doesn't take place. targeting did in fact happen. she tried to spin this in a way that blames good public service in cincinnati, which we know is false. mr. cummings said this is no big deal? give me a break. one last question i have, before i go to the next member. so john coskinen told this committee just a week ago, he knew in april of this year that a substantial portion of lois lerner's e-mails were lost. and he waited two months to tell us, and he waited even longer to tell you. if the private citizen does something like that, under investigation, finds out they've lost important documents and doesn't tell someone, that's a problem. so, is it a big deal to you, mr. cole, that the head of the irs waited two months to tell the united states congress. two months to tell the american people, and most

the irs scandal just got weirder, it has to do with lois lerner's emails. hear what >>> big news from today's irs hearing. irs commissioner john koskinen confirming that investigators have found backup tapes in the lois lerner lost email probe. >> backup tape may, in fact, exist. >> i have no information as to whether there is anything usable on those tapes. >> why didn't you tell us you had the irs had destroyed emails that belonged to lois lerner. >> they were not destroyed as a conscious effort by the irs. >> if the folks like lois lerner and others would have spent more time working on the backlog and less time targeting groups, maybe morale would be better and maybe their backlog would be lesser. >> not one piece of data could be covered. >> doesn't surprise you the american people just have a hard time believing that does it. >> there was no secret that we were hiding. >> right after the oversight hearing the irs commissioner talking directly to us "on the record." >> my commitment is i want people to be comfortable that the irs is simply the tax admi

between the testimony that irs commissioner gave about what the irs procedures are and whether lois lerner followed those procedures and lerner's own attorney says they wasn't aware of those procedures.

fox news alert, late breaking news on the legal push to find lois lerner's lost e-mails.ederal judge says he wants to know what happened to her hard drive. at the same hearing the group true the vote asked the irs let a forensic expert investigate how the e-mails were lost and examine if any of them can be recovered. hi, everyone. i'm gretchen carlson. welcome to "the real story" for a friday. it's a big news day. those missing lois lerner e-mails leading to irs having to go on the record and under oath because remember yesterday another federal judge telling the tax agency it has just 30 days to explain in writing how nearly two years of correspondence simply disappeared. joining me now is a republican congressman from louisiana. great to see you, congress

people inside of government that will abuse their power in the way that lois lerner and her cohorts did>> i'm sure you can appreciate this. this is radio talk show host as well referring to in part of this exchange, the associate to lerner says right-wing radio shows are scary to listen to. they are having a back and forth about the right wing of america. how does this change things in the irs debate over this political targeting scandal? >> thanks for having me. i got to tell you, where i agree with chris is i think these e-mails should not have been sent over the irs server. i agree with that. i think we need to change the conversation a little bit. i think the thing we need to figure out to fix our campaign finance system so it's not related by the irs and by an independent entity. >> it is a bigger point. specifically about these e-mails because there are only a few hours old. what do you think they do? are they a game changer for this investigation? >> not at all. darryl icssa and his committee will continue to investigate. i think it proves that our system is broken. >> what do yo

the irs scandal just got weirder, it has to do with lois lerner's emails.rs commissioner just said. that's next. we fill our freshly baked flatbread, with bold, unflat flavors. like taste inspired by the freshness of the mediterranean. so you always get flavor that's anything but flat. new flatbread sandwiches, try one today. ♪ ♪ start a team. join a team. walk to end alzheimer's. visit alz.org/walk today. thank ythank you for defendiyour sacrifice. and thank you for your bravery. thank you colonel. thank you daddy. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance can be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. >>> big news from today's irs hearing. irs commissioner john koskinen confirming that investigators have found backup tapes in the lois lerner lost email probe. >> backup tape may, in fact, exist. >> i have no information as to whether there is anything usable on those tapes. >> why didn't you

turns out lois lerner was very frank in her just-produced personal e-mails which we now have. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. earlier today the house ways and means committee released an eye opening string of e-mails from lois lerner. e-mails lawmakers believe show her dislike of conservatives. we do not know who was on the other end of these e-mails because that information has been redakted. but the lengthy back and forth took place days after president obama's re-election in 2012 and gives us new insight into ms. lerner's mindset. at one point the person on the other end writes to ms. lerner saying "well, you should hear the whacko wing of the gop. the right wing radio shows are scary to listen to." to this lerner responds, if we are through it's because there are many blank holes. jim jordan, republican and member of the house judiciary and oversight committees and just took part in the hearing in congress today. congressman, thank you for being here today. she goes onto call gop radio hosts crazies who will "take us down" and refers to them as blank

the irs had identified the 24,000 lois lerner e-mails between january 2011 and april 2011. why did the irs take the steps to recover ms. lerner's e-mails? >> that was an attempt on our part to produce as many e-mails from her accounts or other accounts as possible to the request of this committee and the ways and means committee to produce all of lois lerner's e-mails. so we are trying to make sure that there were no e-mails anywhere in the system to or from lois lerner that we had located and not provided. >> so despite the hard drive crashed, the irs has still produced 24,000 plus additional e-mails from his lerner. is that right? >> that is correct. >> witnesses have told this committee that in february 2014, irs employees discovered there were fewer of lois lerner's e-mails from 20 09 to april 2011 than there were for other periods. upon this discovery, irs officials immediately took steps to determine the reasons for this discrepancy and whether they could locate additional e-mails from ms. lerner during that time. . the question there is, why did you not inform us abou

so you were not there this past february when the irs first identified potential issues with lois lerner's e-mails, is that right? >> that's correct. >> you said something that was very interesting. you said when you got there, ms. lerner's information had already been collected. is that what you said? >> yes, that's correct. >> what does that mean? >> well, to my understanding -- i didn't directly interface with the staff who did this, but professional long-term irs staff went to ms. lerner's computer and took the hard drive and imaged it and took e-mails on it and made copies of all of that. my understanding is that a set of staff and again it happened before i got there so this is my understanding also went through her office to collect any paper copies that were -- i think they collected everything and went through it to find out what was responsive. >> they actually went through her office, to your knowledge, to try to find paper copies? >> to my knowledge, yes. again, i want to clarify that i didn't witness it. i wasn't there. that's what i was told. >> i see. and so -- let me ask yo

when we come back, the questions over lois lerner's missing e-mails continues. congressman darrell issa joins us next to discuss what's next in this ongoing investigation. >>> the irs continues to turn over new documents after claiming to have lost two years worth of e-mails belonging to ex-irs official lois lerner. republican and democratic staffers are reportedly scouring tens of thousands of pages of newly acquired materials, on a holiday weekend no less. joining us now, a key leader in the investigation, darrell issa. chairman, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good to be back. sorry to be talking about the same issues as we get dribbed and drabbed documents. >> to that point, in a letter dated june 27th, quote, we are working to complete our production of ms. lerner's e-mails to the tax writing committee by the end of next week as promised. that puts us smack up against a holiday. we've been told tens of thousands of pages of material were turned over. what can you tell us, if anything, about that? >> notice he said tax-writing committees. there's been

e were producing lois lerner emails. our strategy and thoughts were and i thought the most efficient way to proceed was to complete the production so we would know how many lois lerner emails we had from her account and how many emails we were able to retrieve from other accounts. i hoped we would find out how many other problems we had with custodians and we would produce all of that as a report to the committees and a public report that would explain what our email process is, why it's so complicated, what we determined about lois lerner's emails and her crashes and what the emails we've been able to recover and it would be a full report. june 13 was a friday. i should have known friday 13 was going to be an interesting day. we were asked by the finance committee which was trying to come to closure on their report whether we would give them an update on our march letter which we advised the tax writing committees that we completed the production of all the information we had about the determination process which was th

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lois lerner's account. >> how easy would it be.f people would cooperate, how easy would it be to get this information. >> if people would cooperate it would be tough it but you would do it in weeks instead of months. >> and, i mean, are people that you talk to, are they suggesting that there is a deliberate effort not to provide information or they just saying people are confused or it's just so dysfunctional because it's such a big organization or what? >> i heard this word from people who used to investigate these crimes. they-it's the opinion of a lot of people it's a criminal act. you are not just talking about emails that have disappeared. they have to disappear records management systems. it would be really foolish to think is that people could store. if anybody knew what a record was, it's lois lerner, she was a senior executive service. there is only three ways that you define a reasonable doubt rovment she had to know what that was. they are gone. nobody believes it because it would be like the emails only existed on a foi

they haven't talked to lois lerner.s going to be very interesting to see what they put under oath in 30 days. >> was there any lawyer there from the department of justice today as well? >> what happens is the department of justice has attorneys that represent the other agencies in this type of litigation. so you had the department of justice attorneys from the tax division of the justice department representing the irs in today's hearing. >> i see. all right. so on august 10th, just so everyone is clear on this, who from the irs is going to have to submit a statement under oath about what really happened to those e-mails? who? >> that's the question. they're going to have to come up with an official who has information that he or she can swear to about what went on with lois lerner and other e-mail issues. >> they can't claim the fifth? >> this is the agency talking. this is the agency going under oath in federal court. it's a major development for those of house want accountability. >> you will be there on august 10th?

>> i have no idea what the recycler does with it. >> jon: for all i know lois lerner's hard drive was ground into a fine dust, sprinkled lark parmesan onto a lasagna that was served to those in this very chamber. [laughter] so i say to you, congress, if you want to see all of lois lerner's e-mails, you must look inside yourselves. or, or you could... or you could wait. by the way, that is a killer that guy impression. that i will use for the rest of my career. [laughter] so up until now, the whole thing is annoying. but not quite galling. here's where it gets somewhat galling. >> the irs has historically only preserved back-up tapes for six months. >> jon: all right. [laughter] the government agency whose entire business model release on forcing americans to live as borderline hoarders... [laughter] only keeps their [bleeped] for six months? no. [cheering and applause] that's unacceptable. you know, you never get a notice from the irs saying please bring your records down to us... if you can find them. it's like if the e.p.a. was dumping its office trash in the national zoo's spotted

when we come back, the questions over lois lerner's missing e-mails continues.gressman darrell issa joins heat shields are compromised. we have multiple failures. what's that alarm? fuel cell two is down. i'm going to have to guide her in manually. this is very exciting. but i'm at my stop. come again? i'm watching this on the train. it's so hard to leave. good luck with everything. watch tv virtually anywhere with the u-verse tv app. with at&t, the u-verse revolves around you. >>> the irs continues to turn over new documents after claiming to have lost two years worth of e-mails belonging to ex-irs official lois lerner. republican and democratic staffers are reportedly scours tens of thousands of pages of newly acquired material. joining us now, a key leader in the investigation, darrell issa. chairman, welcome back to "knocks ne"fox news sunday." >> good to be back. sorry to be talking about the same issues as we get dribed and drabbed. >> to that point, in a letter dated june 27th, quote, we are working to complete our production of ms. lerner's e-mails to th

we had lois lerner flip and flop over the fifth amendment before congress.ggest flop of all, megyn, is the president of the united states. because president obama a year ago said he was angry. he read the inspector general report. he was furious about it. he's going to get to the bottom of it. fast forward to 2013. there's not a smidgen of corruption. that's what's going on with this scandal is complete dishonest lying, flip-flopping like a bunch of rogues who don't think there's any accountability. >> all right. let me -- let me play advocate for the president here because he said when he first said i'm outraged, as outraged as anybody, he wanted to see the full investigation. and the inspector general report had made clear targeting was going on. it was crystal clear targeting of conservative groups had been going on. but since then i would imagine the president would argue corruption hasn't been proven. what he thinks happened is these employees trying to do a good thing, which is make sure groups weren't too political to get nontax exempt status. that's

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official lois lerner, it could soon be getting hotter. oversight chair saying i.r.s. commissioner could further incriminate lerner and her targeting of conservative groups when he returns to the hill. he will face questions on discrepancies between his recent testimony and statements from lerner's team. they're also waiting for lerner related documents promised to be delivered to congress. >> lois' attorney is not telling the truth or the commissioner was inaccurate in his testimony before congress. now, the lawyers, mr. taylor is not under oath. the commissioner is. probably will make us understand that lois lerner's attorney continues to profess her innocence when we're long past the question of guilt. >> chairman issa claiming the justice department is holding up the investigation into the targeting scandal and that may be political pressure will force it to move. meantime, a non part son watchdog group saying the i.r.s. may have obstructed congress when it said it lost lerner's emails. executive director of cause of action telling the daily crawler, it's very clea

we are continuing to provide more than 50,000 e-mails from lois lerner. we are working to produce these document s as quickly as we can. ms. lerner had asked professionals to restore her hard drive but were unable to do so. the irs has produced 25,000 e-mails from the period 2009 and 2011, largely from the files of other individuals. the irs provided information about the hard drive crash to all six investigating entities, and a public report we released in june. i would note that the june report was based in part on e-mails we had already provided to the congressional committees, the inspector general and the department of justice. some of those e-mails were produced as long ago as last fall. those e-mails were provided in the normal course of investigation. through all six investigators have had initial information blt hard drive crash since last fall. also, additional information about ms. lerner's hard drive crash were released prior to the report. i would also point out the inspector general is noted with proceeding with its own investigation regardin

face questions about the growing is rs scandal and the investigation into what happened to all of lois lerner'si'm eric shawn. patti ann: i'm patti ann browne. james crowe is set to defend the probe. what are some of the key points of this investigation lawmakers are looking for answers to. >> reporter: jim jordan, wants to know about john koskinen. he says he knew about the mission emails but didn't tell congress and the american people until two months later. jordan will ask the deputy attorney general, when did koskinen alert the justice department that's lois lerner had an email problem. the other question is the united states congress contempt legislation. and the united states attorney for d.c. has yet to convene a grand jury. so jordan is going to say shouldn't the united states attorney convene agrand jury to get to the bottom of this? patti ann: what do we expect from the deputy attorney general? >> reporter: the justice department investigation into the targeting of conservative groups and the missing peoples is serious and he wants to know if they think the disappearance is fishy. wi

pilger's lawyer and public integrity section of the justice department e-mailed to lois lerner. ois, the fbi says a raw format is best because they can put this into their systems. ranking member was just talking about -- one point one million pages, 21 discs of information -- the fbi got any exact format they wanted, had it for four years and am aware of the testimony from the justice department that they did not use this information. but they also had it for four years and it did contain confidential taxpayer information. i would ask we enter this into the record as well. ask that mr. cole, since we want to be efficient and not get caught up in distraction and dysfunction, that when he answered these questions, he would be allowed to answer because i want to hear the answer to that also. does answer and say it's an ongoing investigation. that's why we've got him here. make anlse wish to opening statement? the gentle lady is recognized. >> i'm reading the opening statement on behalf of ranking member cart right will stop thank you for testifying today. 2013, inspector general ru

the irs chief says tapes that could contain lois lerner's e-mails are now in the hands of investigators. so what's on them? and will officials finally fess up? welcome to the "journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. the russian-backed rebels accused of killing 298 innocent people on a commercial airliner are not backing down. the separatists say they shot two ukrainian fighter jets out of the sky wednesday, not far from where the doomed malaysia airlines jet went down. russian president vladimir putin is promising help but says there are limits. here at home, president obama is taking a lot of heat for not being tough enough. so is putin playing us? "wall street journal" deputy editor dan henninger and editorial board member matt kaminski join me with more. matt, a lot of people hoped -- i'm not saying expected -- that the malaysia airlines shoot-down might stop the war in ukraine. it hasn't worked out that way. >> no. i mean, it was a very big event for us, for the world, that was really forced to wake up to the conflict. but unfortunately it was actually not that big of an event an

the real irs scandal is not lois lerner. don't look over there. look what we want to talk about irs alleged budget cuts. "the times" didn't even dare answer the question whether or not, if "the times," irs had more money they wouldn't have lost emails. of course they would. >> that is scandal. lois lerner has been declared guilty, if by declaring the fifth she is somehow guilty? we haven't had a full hearing. darrell issa refused until elijah cummings, ranking member pointed out there were progressive groups looks at. this is not covered by media. eric: by and large the conservative groups were being targeted. two years in the time period leading up to the election. in the crucial two year period, alan. rosemary woods, 18 1/2 minutes. this is two years, thousands and thousands emails. >> only group, hardly covered during those four years that was denied tax-exempt status was emerge america, a progressive group. conservative groups were not -- >> delayed and stalled. look, this is one scandal i think the american people fully understand. is old, my

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. >>> they are investigating lois lerner's missing e-mails. peter doocy is covering this in washington. what are we expecting from today's hearing? >> now the focus is the investigation of the investigation into lois lerner's missing e-mails. jim jordan republican from ohio is leading today's look sat what happened to lois lerner's hard drive and the possibility raised in recent federal court hearings. those e-mails aren't actually gone for good. she says finally someone in the administration admits the destruction of two years of e-mails is fishy. democrats and republicans alike are upset with the lack of urgency the obama administration is bringing. the justice department says no need to worry. the quote, the irs investigation was launched by the department without hesitation and immediately after ms. learner publically acknowledged the potential misconduct that has been conducted with the utmost integrity ever since and department officials have regularly characterized the investigation as a top priority. the doj is going to send deputy att

why not just to lois lerner and from lois learner? >> right. as i explained earlier, i can't remember if you were here, at the beginning of the project we met with the staffs of the four committees -- >> right and it's important to note that was your request to meet with them because you thought the original request was too voluminous, and my response is when any administration, republican, democrat, whig, bull moose, don't care, but when you come to a committee of congress and you try to negotiate a reduction in the search terms because of time constraints or resources and this happens, let me tell you the next subpoena you're going to get is going to be simply to and from and you can save yourself a trip to come over and try to negotiate the terms. it was done to make life easier for you, not for congress, agreed? >> honestly, honestly, it was done order to get you the material you wanted faster. >> well it didn't wind up happening. shame us on if we let it happen again. what negative inference would you draw from the failure to retain the do

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