e were producing lois lerner emails. our strategy and thoughts were and i thought the most efficient way to proceed was to complete the production so we would know how many lois lerner emails we had from her account and how many emails we were able to retrieve from other accounts. i hoped we would find out how many other problems we had with custodians and we would produce all of that as a report to the committees and a public report that would explain what our email process is, why it's so complicated, what we determined about lois lerner's emails and her crashes and what the emails we've been able to recover and it would be a full report. june 13 was a friday. i should have known friday 13 was going to be an interesting day. we were asked by the finance committee which was trying to come to closure on their report whether we would give them an update on our march letter which we advised the tax writing committees that we completed the production of all the information we had about the determination process which was the

the irs scandal just got weirder, it has to do with lois lerner's emails. hear what >>> big news from today's irs hearing. irs commissioner john koskinen confirming that investigators have found backup tapes in the lois lerner lost email probe. >> backup tape may, in fact, exist. >> i have no information as to whether there is anything usable on those tapes. >> why didn't you tell us you had the irs had destroyed emails that belonged to lois lerner. >> they were not destroyed as a conscious effort by the irs. >> if the folks like lois lerner and others would have spent more time working on the backlog and less time targeting groups, maybe morale would be better and maybe their backlog would be lesser. >> not one piece of data could be covered. >> doesn't surprise you the american people just have a hard time believing that does it. >> there was no secret that we were hiding. >> right after the oversight hearing the irs commissioner talking directly to us "on the record." >> my commitment is i want people to be comfortable that the irs is simply the tax admin

they get email that shows he was talking with lois lerner in 2013. woe bring in mr. ht before the inspector general's report went published, this is may of 2013 before. >> right before? >> actually days before. the email was two days before she went public. so we bring him, in we find out he not only talked to her then but in 2010. >> about what in 2010? about targeting? >> yes. about the whole citizens united case about the whole subject matter. we subpoenaed justice and we want all correspondence between justice and lois lerner. we get those emails. we then ask the irs why do we have to get this from justice? why didn't you provide them? >> here is the key fact. look at the time line. as a prosecutor did you that as well. that was june 9th when we sent that letter to the irs. june 13th is when they disclosed to the world, hey, we lost lois lerner's emails and they have been destroyed and they are unrecoverable. so you knew in february june 13th. why june 1st? because we sent a letter on june 9th saying we got email from the justice department that we didn't get from

we want to hear from you about the irs targeting scandal, with all the case of the missing emails with lois lerner. are the media and public paying enough attention to this? go to fox news. com/happeningnow. quick on "america's asking." where owe where are lois lerner's emails? will they ever be found? what do you think? vo: this is the summer. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand. and then hung on a wall for years to come. get out there, with over 50,000 hotels at $150 dollars or less. expedia. find yours. jenna: welcome back, everyone. john boehner swinging back on the white house on why he wants to sue the president. the speaker said the president has not faithfully executed the laws of the constitution over a wide range of issues. in an editorial the speaker writes, he, meaning the president, circumvented the american people and their people, through executive actions and excusing himself from enforcing statutes he is sworn to uphold, boasting about at times his willingness to do it. the white house says the l

emails. baffling to me. >> that's why it begs the questioning it's not lois lerner or somebody like that. en in her own email she says this is personal files. she doesn't know how to do this. she is not competent from a technology standpoint. this goes higher to somebody in technical skills. somewhere out there is this information. you have got to interview the right people. >> why would someone in the it department, more sophisticated skills why would somebody do this? it's sort of hard for me to think that anyone is in the it department would have much interest in this. >> you know, in many cases you prosecuted cases, i investigated cases. we always. >> i defended them but you always came away wondering why would somebody do something like this. a lot of times there are no explanations. somebody somewhere taking orders from somebody else. their job at jeopardy you might believe. you never know what people will do under the right kind of pressure. >> bottom line is we can get the answers. >> yes we can, it's out there somewhere. people who know that have been inside that environment say i

built for business. >>> they may be lois lerner's most damning emails yet. rner calling republicans names. >> lois lerner has turned over some new emails to congress and they are not pretty. >> there is evidence now that lois lerner had a bias against conservatives. >> and unnamed associate writes lerner well you should hear the wacko wing of the g.o.p. and lerner replies great maybe we are through if there are that many [bleep] >> she was an active participant in targeting conservatives and she objects to for their political beliefs. >> what this points to is lois lerner's predisposition. her world view. >> she did break laws. she did break regulations. >> >> and our panel is back. jackie, i don't know if it doesn't necessarily show criminal conduct at all. shows she has a potty mouth at one point. certainly shows bias. >> she has given republicans a lot of ammunition. why she doesn't say conservatives are talking about conservative radio in this conversation, they are looking for intent. we will see if the justice department decides that that is enough. >>

emails from lois lerner and now the two federal judges are saying, cough it up. ant to know what happened to these emails. explain how they were lost, why they were lost, where did they go? what about this hard drive? why didn't you follow the law and back it up? so now judges, in a court system, are saying get to the bottom of this truth. >> isn't that appalling? if congress can't get the answer, the citizens have to do it. go to federal judges, what should happen is is the president of the united states and the department of justice and the commissioner of the irs should be ordering an investigation. they are just hiding this. >> well, that's right. but, remember, congress also has other power. we have the power to defund various aspects of the executive branch. which we should, if they don't have money, they don't have power. the other thing we can do is impeach executive officials like a lois lerner. we could impeach a koskinen for betrayal of public trust. they have betrayed the public trust. they have broken laws. that is something congress could do. i think

it wants a forensic expert to determine how lois lerner's emails mysteriously vanished and if any of the data can be recovered. lerner was the director of the irs division that processed tax-exempt status for non-profits. yesterday a federal judge ordered an agent to explain under oath how it lost so many electronic documents. the irs has 30 days to comply. we'll bring you the very latest as soon as it happens. ♪ eric: but first we're learn more about the lawsuit house speaker john boehner plans to file against president obama as house lawmakers draft a resolution authorizing that move. i'm eric shawn in for jon scott. >> i'm arthel neville in for jenna today. it will focus on changes to obamacare so-called employer mandate. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on capitol hill with the latest. mike what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, arthel, house leaders say president obama changed the health care law without a vote of congress, effectively creating his own law. after signing the bill into law back in 2009, the president later waived the employer mandate and th

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we would have not known lois lerner emails were lot and getting that one email which showed, wait a minute, richard pilger was talking with lois lerner in 2010 and we never would have known that. we've got to vote. we're out of time. thank the deputy attorney general for being here and the committee is adjourned. >> up next, q and a with fred kaplan. today, anthony foxx speaks at the luncheon series. country'sscuss the transportation needs and infrastructure spending. coverage begins at 1:00 p.m. eastern. >> our guest is author fred , talking about "john quincy adams: american visionary." >> i want to start with your life of a biographer. if he had been dead, the experience of interviewing him, great as it was, was a difficult one. we had a bit of a falling out after the book was finished. it was gore the dall -- gore vidal. he is a distinctive american and a distinctive character. deep and conflicting tendencies. he could be generous and loyal. he could be very backbiting and demanding. a controlling personality. bit and watch a little give people a chance to see what he looks like. i loo

it wants a forensic expert to determine how lois lerner's emails mysteriously vanished and if any of e recovered. lerner was the director of the irs division that processed tax-exempt status for non-profits. yesterday a federal judge ordered an agent to explain under oath how it lost so many

frustrations mounting as lawmakers try to get to the bottom of what happened to those lost lois lerner emails. they're hearing from the man in charge of the justice department investigation. attorney general james coal remaining tight-lipped what he found thus far. >> i understand you're interested in learning about the results of the investigation, in order to protect the integrity and independence of this investigation we can not disclose non-public information about the investigation while it remains pending. >> our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live on capitol hill. bring us up-to-date, mike. >> reporter: jon, part of the deputy attorney general's mission today is to convince some skeptical law make that's the justice department is taking the irs investigation seriously. >> i know you are frustrated by the fact that i can not at this time disclose any specifics about the investigation i do pledge to you that when our investigation is completed we will provide congress with detailed information about the facts we uncovered, and the conclusions we reached in this matter. >>

what we saw in that email today, that new email from lois lerner where she is obviously instructing people to be careful what's in your email, shows you so obviously that they are trying to hide things. it's the most powerful agency in government after the military. and they are hiding things from oversight, from congress, which is required by law, clearly trying to underline any attempt to reign in. >> let's take a look at those emails because i know you ran the first of them. i whole series of them. three parts of it the question and the response. she says in the first email we need to be cautious about what we say in emails. someone asked if instant messaging conversations with also searchable she said i don't know. i told them i would get back to them. do you know in the response to that is this my general recommendation is to treat the conversation as if it could is being saved somewhere as it is possible for either party of the conversation to retain the information and have it turn up as part of an electronic search. and lois lerner's response is perfect. as if things are taken care

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the irs now has a technical adviser who says they may not have lost lois lerner's emails but may haver people's emails. three i.t. managers were fired and not sure why. the investigation continues on the hill. stay with fox because we'll continue to cover it when no one else does. >> bob who texted you? >> never mind. >> never mind. we're out of time. don't forget to set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is up next. we'll see you tomorrow. ♪ >> good morning to you. you are watching "fox & friends first" on this wednesday morning. made it midway through the week. i am heather childers. >> i am ainsley earhardt. thank you for waking up with us. the faa is banning them in flying into israel after a rocket strike less than a mile from the airport. >> john kerry landed despite the ban. >> despite faa ban john kerry flies to tel aviv to push for a cease fire between israel and hamas. it brings the topic closer to home, closer to americans. delta, united and u.s. airways are banned from flying into tell av vooef. one jet close to landing to tell av vooef h

>> reporter: jenna, lois lerner's emails are back at the center of irs targeting controversy. because a few weeks after the irs said messages were gone for good the agency came back to say that correspondence could still be out there. the irs deputy associate chief council, thomas kaine, told the oversight committee, quote, there is issue whether or not all the backup recovery tapes were destroyed on the six-month retention schedule. so an investigator followed up. so some those backup tapes may still exist? and cain said, i don't know whether they are or they aren't but it is an issue that is looked at. the oversight committee chairman darrell issa says we might finally now be close to learning at last how high up in the administration this scandal does or does not reach. here's why. >> it does appear from the interview with kaine that in fact they didn't destroy them all, they didn't overright them all or at least not sure. >> what do you know, and why are you just learning this now? >> we're just learning it now because they didn't take our order to preserve documents. >> r

federal judge this is week as part of some hearings over what happened with the irs losing lois lerner's emailsey will have to explain to one federal judge why they didn't bring those up in the investigation that initially happened but, it had to be a foia request that found out the emails were actually lost. bill: they're in court then, is that what you're saying, michael? right. legal experts are not clear or united whether this will produce anything but it could keep the ball rolling a little bit. they have another appearance on friday. they're expected to try to block any evidence that might show what exactly happened with those lois lerner emails. bill: just a bit confused. all the action has been in the house hearing so far. how did it jump to federal court? who brought that? who forced that. >> two conservative groups brought these hearings to court. they're not exactly related specifically to department of justice's investigation. these are separate hearings but i guess the idea is that they very well could move the ball forward where darrell issa is feeling like the department of justi

the hard drive of lois lerner's emails not destroyed, just scratched. the irs commissioner is getting grilled on that one. they say if you make it here you can make it anywhere but they didn't say how much. the shocking number of millionaires in the big apple. even when they say it's not, it is always about money. melissa: pepsico raising its full year guidance after better than expected second quarter results. that didn't stop the ceo from taking a swipe at the economy quote, despite operating what continues to be a challenging and volatile macro environment, we are delivering consistent, strong results. should a warning from a consumer-driven company like this give investors reason to sit up and take notice? joining me senior correspondent charlie gasparino. fox business's tom sullivan and dan schaefer of schaefer asset management. tom, what do you think? >> i like pepsi. one of my all-time favorite stocks. revenues are up. profit margins are up. the income is up. melissa: yeah. >> there's -- melissa: but they're telling us that the economy is not up.

the irs now has a technical adviser who says they may not have lost lois lerner's emails but may haveher people's emails. three i.t. managers were fired and not sure why. the investigation continues on the hill. stay with fox because we'll continue to cover it when no one else does. >> bob who texted you? >> never mind. >> never mind. we're out of time. don't forget to set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is up next. we'll see you tomorrow. >>> two federal courts offer opposing rulings about a key aspect of obamacare. now what? this is "special report." >>> good evening i'm bret baier. two federal courts took on the irs rule extending federal subsidies to states that didn't set up exchanges for obamacare. the decisions went in opposite directions. one tossed out the rule and the other said it was okay. the white house meanwhile is promising business as usual. to sort this all out we have fox team coverage. ji

ordering the irs to give a written declaration under oath informing the court what went on with lois lerner's emailsthe hearing coming today on judicial watch lawsuit. aims to get documents under the freedom of information act on the irs under the targeting scandal. the irs now has 30 days until august 10th to respond it's a major development for those of us who want accountability. >> the irs has not dealt with this straight from the beginning junk sullivan was asking do you know if the fbi is investigating, the irs lawyer didn't know. >> what kind of investigation is going on where the fbi won't even talk to the head of the agency that has this kind of stuff going on with their email exchange. >> jim jordan was spot on. >> eric holder is asleep at the switch on this. >> i don't think so. i think is he deliberately blocking it. >> should absolutely be a special prosecutor joining us is charles krauthammer. best selling book things that matter. charles? this is big development. i mean, now, the department of justice, eric holder won't do it so a federal judge is doing it. >> which is is the only way

lois lerner emails may not be lost after all.osed session, they aren't sure whether the backup emails still exist or not. assistant chief counsel also telling lawmakers about more computer crashes involving less than 20 other i.r.s. officials. here is oversight committee chairman david isa. >> there's more questions about people that regularly corresponded with lois lernor who heard of this targeting of conservatives for their views that now seem to have problems with their computers and as a result, again, an absence of accountability. it does appear from the interview with cain that they didn't destroy them all. they didn't overwrite them all. >> what kind of investigation is this? the agency reportedly just put out a request to destroy another 3200 hard drives. it's routine procedure to protect sensitive taxpayer information. but questions about the agency's motives for past record destruction practices are bringing a lot more scrutiny this time. i don't get it. so kimberly, you're going to have to explain this to me. the agen

and lois lerner's lost emails. new testimony tonight from capitol hill suggests they may not be gone. i.r.s. deputy associate chief council thomas cain is unsure whether all the backups were recycles. the i.r.s. said two years of her emails were lost in the computer crash. she was the head of the division accused of targeting groups seeking tax exempt status. a suit of a gynecologist ecretly video taping patients. investigators believe he used surveillance cameras, pen cameras and fob key cameras to take these images. told of theseague crimes. e committed suicide. flight recorders found at the crash site of malaysia flight 17. unanimous support for an international investigation here. president obama said the burden tonight is on russia. it must allow independent investigators on the scene. after hours of direct negotiations, pro russia rebels gave malaysian official what is appeared to be the black boxes from mh 17. experts warn the flight recorders may not shine much light on what happened and who did it. it has

>> well, it turns it out that lois lerner's emails may not be missing after all. s insisting that the emails were lost in a computer crash. and now, suddenly, a top irs official telling congress is he uncertain whether backup tapes of those emails still exist or not. darrell issa joins us, good evening, sir nchesz good evening, greta it does appear from the interview with cain that in fact they didn't destroy them all. they didn't overright them all or at least they are not sure. >> all right. well what do you know and why are you just learning this now? >> we are just learning it now because they didn't take our order to preserve documents, something that you as a lawyer would understand. if you are in a lawsuit, the first thick you do is you understand you can't destroy any documents even in the ordinary course. they obviously didn't gather the documents. they didn't take care and they are not sure if they have got tapes hanging around that contain these backups. as a matter of fact, their change, if you will in this transcribed interview, really tells us the --

emails but didn't tell congress and the american people until two months later. jordan will ask the deputy attorney general, when did koskinen alert the justice department that's lois lerneremail problem. the other question is the united states congress contempt legislation. and the united states attorney for d.c. has yet to convene a grand jury. so jordan is going to say shouldn't the united states attorney convene agrand jury to get to the bottom of this? patti ann: what do we expect from the deputy attorney general? >> reporter: the justice department investigation into the targeting of conservative groups and the missing peoples is serious and he wants to know if they think the disappearance is fishy. with it's complete he says they will reveal to congress the findings and conclusions drawn. trying to reassure the congress by thinks the justice department investigation is not serious and it is indeed a serious probe. patti ann: we'll have continuing coverage of this developing story. we'll monitor those hearings and when news breaks we'll bring it to you live. eric: the oversight committee is weighing its next steps. last night darrell issa calling the refusal to appe

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place today because like in the recent fox poll, three quarters, 76% of americans believe that lois lerner's emails were deliberately destroyed. so the president is sitting there saying don't worry about it, nothing to it. nothing at all when three quarters of the american people think there might have been a criminal act involved. this is not helping him and these scandals have eroded, i think the public confidence. his job approval now is about i think 40% in the latest gallup and that's a pretty big drop from where he was not too long ago. >> it seems like karl, it was the irs scandal. it really started to be the impetus for poll numbers. now we see it with other issues. i want to ask you. this a lot of people are encouraged when they hear this buyer's remorse for mitt romney. how familiar does this translate into the next election? okay great. we didn't vote for him. how much does this help republicans the next time around the party that put up a a candidate like mitt romney? >> well, it really doesn't. these things are not transferable from candidate to candidate it is an object lesson it says

lois lerner. the elm familiar miss, -- infamous. lois lerner sends an emailr irs perch to another irs person. i'm quoting the email now: i was cautioning folks about the email and had several occasions where congress has asked for emails and there has been electronic search for responsive emails so we need to be cautious about what we say in emails. someone asked if ocs conversations with also searchable. i don't know. but told them i would get back to them. ocs is, what, cammeron? >> ocs is instant messaging available to irs employees. of course, lois lerner and this email probably finds herself in a little bit deeper trouble. when lerner found out that they were not saved automatically, her one word response to the it person she was emailing was perfect. tens of thousands of her emails were lost in a computer crash that a lot of experts are pretty sceptic call about. >> i have to ask you opinion question even though you are a hard news reporter. this looks like lois lerner is suggesting that a coverup is good. let's get rid of any emails that implicate us f

. >> news tonight about the irs scandal and lois lerner's lost emails. one conservative group though knows what it will take to solve the miss strif the vanished emails. hear from the group's leader next. new information about the georgia toddler left to die in a sweltering hot car. find out what police are looking for now. >>> the irs under increasing pressure to find emails they t. claims vanished. poof. victim of hard drive crash. this week a federal judge will hold a hearing at a conservative group's request to hold investigation regarding the missing emails. the group is true to vote. the director joins us. good evening. >> good evening. >> so you want a hearing. you have asked for a hearing from the judge. it's judge reggie federal district judge in washington. what do you want from him. >> we are hopeful that the judge will allow us to bring forensic scientists in to come in and try to recover these mysteriously lost emails. we are very hopeful it's going to happen and introduce a whole new chapter into this ongoing drama. >> do you believe that t

emails. how did they get them? what do they say? >> well, the congressional investigators got them through a whole variety of channels and not through lois lerner not lost computer files. some of them pretty saul tri. not suitable for television. congress does have one particular email lois lerner calls conservatives blank holes and calls them wackoes and in one she cares the right to terrorists saying the government doesn't need looking for, okay. this is the smidgen of evidence if you have a high ranking irs official who can order investigations into certain organizations that want to have tax-free status, and she is calling a particular political party obscene name and crazies, that is a smidgen of evidence, mr. president. okay? >> well, and this from the same woman who also was delighted and said perfect when she found out that the instant messaging system at the irs was not something that was archived and therefore the communications she was having with some of her staff being careful what you say in e-mails wouldn't get found. >> i believe there is enough circumstantial evidence to say that lois lerner is guilty of what people are saying

. >> news tonight about the irs scandal and lois lerner's lost emails. conservative group though knows what it will take to solve the miss strif the vanished emails. hear from the group's leader next. new information about the georgia toddler left to die in a sweltering hot car. find out what police are looking for now. that's coming up. i'm randy and i quit smoking with chantix. for 33 years i chose to keep smoking... ...because it was easier to smoke than it was to quit. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it's a non-nicotine pill. chantix reduced the urge for me to smoke. it actually caught me by surprise. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin rea

staff testified at the oversight committee that they may still have some of lois lerner's missing emails despite earlier claims they were lost forever. mr. walberg: the ways and means committee discovered her hard drive was only scraffed. information that conflicts with the earlier statements that the data was unrecoverable. it's clear the i.r.s. refused to be fully forthcoming and their behavior continues to raise serious questions about potential criminal wrongdoing and the targeting of conservative groups. here in the house we are committed to oversight, transparency, and ensuring we get the answers we need in the pursuit of understanding what really happened. i yield back. >> for what purpose does the gentleman from iowa seek recognition? >> to address the house for one minute. revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> madam speaker, i rise to speak out against the misguided efforts to reduce or redeal the renewable fuel standard. the r.f.s. was act enacted in 2005 to improve our equipment, environment, an

back in june commissioner koskinen told congress all of lois lerner's emails were gone in a computer and the hard drive, that is nowhere to be found either. now we learn that may not be the case. martha: chris stirewalt, fox news digital politics editor joins me now. chris, good morning to you. >> good morning. martha: we remember paul ryan looking at john koskinen saying, i don't believe your story. now it appears he may be on to something. >> not only that we remember john koskinen refusing to apologize. i don't believe i owe you an apology. we remember john koskinen, who brought forward, government officials and bureaucrats cheered him on, i haven't done all these things to come around here and answer these kind of jerk questions. he was so cross. but now we know that he was also, so inaccurate. and was he deceiving or was he misinformed? did people tell him the wrong things? we don't know. but he was testifying under oath. he will have to answer for that. he will have to answer it for two reasons. you talked about the new discovery that we have that relates to the email having be

is this how we get answers finally to the missing lois lerner emails? to get them. >> if i told them i lost my emails and couldn't come up with records i needed to file my taxes, that wouldn't stand. i would still be held accountable and so should irs be held accountable for their lapse in judgment. when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? and that's how you'll increase market share. any questions? can i get an "a", steve? yes! three a's! amazing sales! he brings his a-game! la quinta inns and suites is ready for you, so you'll be ready for business. the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! la quinta! martha: crisis averted but barely. look at this dramatic video. watch this. plane landing, plane about to takeoff. this is in barcelona, spain. one jet comes in. it was just feet apparently from touching down when another taxied along the runway in front of it. t

lois lerner's. statements about missing emails. this is not the first time.ouse lawyers have questioned koskinen's credibility. >> commissioner, are the president's hand picked man to restore trust and accountability at the irs. >> nobody believes you. >> the american people have no reason to trust the irs or frankly the administration on this issue. >> we have a problem with you and you you have a problem with maintaining your credibility. >> i don't believe you. >> i have a long career. that's the first time anybody has said that they do not believe me. >> i don't believe you. >> that's fine. >> it's hard to love the irs. >> but it should not be hard to trust the irs. former irs commissioner mark iverson under president bush 43. nice to see you, sir. >> nice to be with you, greta. >> all right. so now we have this letter from darrell issa who was the chairman of the house oversight asking the new commissioner because apparently the new commissioner testified that lois lerner kept the records, a hard copy, her lawyer says she didn't. didn't know she was supp

emails show lois lerner warned her staff about what they should and should not say in emails.any of her emails disappeared shortly after. watch this exchange. >> miss learner says, i know i have gotten rid of the emails when the computer crashed two years earlier but i better double-check on this intraoffice instant mess anding capability we have at the internal revenue service. peter what do these newly exchanged emails show? >> we know email wasn't the on the way irs officials also talked to each other. there is an instant messaging network. those conversations are not routinely backed up. let's look at this email from lois lerner to another official saying i was cautioning folks about email and how we have had self conversations where congress asked for emails and there has been an electronic search so we need to be cautious about what we say in emails. learner also then asked if those instant messages are backed up. the official says only if one of the people chatting saves the conversation. lerner said, perfect. the oversight committee chairman says this is a smoking gun.

this comes as fox news obtained more emails from lois lerner, the former irs official at the head of this controversy. in these new emails, miss lerner warns her staff to be careful what they write in emails because she warns congress could ask for them. suggesting that the miss lerner wanted to hide what her office could have been doing. peter doocy live in washington with the details. >> reporter: hi, eric. right now lawyers for the government are in front of a federal judge explaining how many hours the doj lawyer assigned to investigate the irs targeting scandal actually worked on it. the reason judicial is watch is taking this to court, that the doj lawyer, made 12 donations to obama for america between 2008 and 2012. if you add up all her donations to obama and dnc from 2004 to 2012, $6850. lois lerner quote, i was cautioning folks about email and we had several occasions where congress asked tore emails and there has been electronic search for responsive emails. we need to be cautious what we say in emails. lerner then inquired about an irs instant messaging system to see if th

between 2010 and 2012 when you lost lois lerner emails and say you got us. we got to come clean. >> the committee on the i.r.s. -- the entire hearing is available on the c-span video library. live now to the u.s. house. members taking up a bill allowing students to get federal aid for test projects that provide college degrees. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] for for the freedom to pursue your will for our lives and for the honor of service to the people and nations of the earth we give you thanks. we thank you that we live in a land of opportunity and we pray that you would help us to be mindful of opportunities to help, to share, to protect, to welcome and to proclaim what is just and what is good. we ask your blessing on this house, this government, and all those who serve the common good . by your holy spirit, grant that they might have the courage to do just that. and may all that we do or say give honor and glory to you, almighty father, now and forever, amen. the speaker:

email in which she clearly was trying to hide information from congress. that's the "new york times" coverage and it was framed as republicans claim lois lerner did thus and il says what it the email says. >> that's it for the panel. stay tuned to see just how awkward one issue has become for presidential will travel. on my count. ...the one where you step up and save the day? make it happen. with verizon xlte. (crowd) oh no... we've doubled our 4g lte bandwidth... hey guys, i got it right here! in cities coast to coast. so take on more. with xlte on the largest, most reliable network. get 50% off smartphones like the new lg g3. i'm j-e-f-f and i have copd. i'm l-i-s-a and i have copd, but i don't want my breathing problems to get in the way of hosting my book club. that's why i asked my doctor about b-r-e-o. once-daily breo ellipta helps increase airflow from the lungs for a full 24 hours. and breo helps reduce symptom flare-ups that last several days and require oral steroids, antibiotics, or hospital stay. breo is not for asthma. breo contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. it is not known if this risk is increase

the irs has exactly one month to explain in writing what happened to lois lerner's emails.following along at home trying to get answers from the irs. will this judge's order be the thing that compels them to answer the question? >> most certainly this is a great first step. the judge ordered on thursday. irs within 30 days. i'm not going to give you more than 30 days. tell me under oath so the irs has to go under oath about what happened and, importantly, what steps they are taking to get the records. and after that, we're going to be in front of a magistrate judge who is going to be overseeing discussions between judicial watch and the irs about how to get these records. so, this is a remarkable set of rulings that should give hope to those of you at home who are worried that there is nothing that can be done here. woe don't believe the records are really missing. on top of that, you had had a second judge yesterday, also push the irs for information what wept on. the pressure is in congress with independent groups like judicial watch and true the vote yesterday. congress

you could take a sledgehammer to lois lerner's computer and her emails would still be there.nk this whole narrative of lost emails, damaged hard drives, scratched hard drives, this is all just a stalling tactic to try to get us off the trail and make us think there is nothing going on here. martha: you know, i can't help but keep going back to the notion, if lois lerner had done nothing wrong, which she clearly stated when she sat before congress right before she took the fifth, she would want to expose all of her emails. if she had felt she had done nothing wrong why wouldn't she want to exonerate herself? here is everything i wrote over all the years, you will not find anything in here that pins anything on me. of course she took the fifth. over a long drawn-out period of time, came out the emails that the congress really wanted, they sent thousands of them, but ones they really wanted disappeared on the hard drive. i guess i'm laying out the journey that we've been on up until now, you being personally affected by all of this, how does this make you feel? >> it really make

but the emails showed lois lerner sending an email to a technician saying, you know, congress will ask for our emails and i told people in the i.r.s. they need to be careful about what they say. question, if we do an instant message and the system was called o.c.s. will those be immune to congressional oversight? the technician said, that's the default setting, you can make it archiveable and searchable, and that was troubling. it was almost like lerner as a matter of course is conducting herself in a way to obstruct the proper oversight. that's troubling with an agency that's this powerful. i think what this amendment will do is prevent that. this is saying exactly what lois lerner is asking about. the settings, if you're going to use funds, the settings have been to be turned on. -- if on't, the set -- you don't turn the settings on, you can't use funds to operate it. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields. the gentleman from florida is elect niced. mr. desantis: given that a point of order has been lonled, i withdraw amendment number 52 and offer as an alternative, amendment

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newly-released emails from the irs scandal fueling calls for special prosecutor n those emails lois lerner shows her disdain for conservatives and republicans in general. we have a partner from foley and lardner and attorney representing tea party groups targeted by the irs. welcome back here and good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: a couple examples for our viewers on irs emails. we don't need to worry about alien terrorists. it is our own crazies that will take us down. how do you see this now? >> well, look, lois lerner was intentionally biased against conservatives and against tea party groups and this just demonstrates that what happened was intentional, it wasn't accidental. it wasn't rogue agents in cincinnati. it was person at the very top of the food chain within that division of irs responsible for reviewing and approving applications for exempt status for all these citizens groups and they made the decision based on pressure from the white house and president going around speaking an democrats in congress demanding publicly and privately that the irs should do something t